Comments on: Rashomon 2008 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:51:42 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: RedHen http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1657134 RedHen Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:03:02 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1657134 <p>While Sanders and Ian fiddle, Rome burns. My money, if I had any after yesterday, goes with Buffett and Krugman - and Knut.</p> While Sanders and Ian fiddle, Rome burns. My money, if I had any after yesterday, goes with Buffett and Krugman – and Knut.

]]> By: alank http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656788 alank Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:23:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656788 <blockquote><p>This is beginning to look like an updated version of Rashomon. Who do we believe?</p></blockquote> <p>I should think your own reasoning faculties should suffice. Reason perforce compels one to concur with Newberry’s assessment.</p>

This is beginning to look like an updated version of Rashomon. Who do we believe?

I should think your own reasoning faculties should suffice. Reason perforce compels one to concur with Newberry’s assessment.

]]> By: Eureka Springs http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656635 Eureka Springs Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:52:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656635 <p>Yes, Safari has tabs as well.. and if you don’t use tabs, just click the back arrow on your browser.</p> Yes, Safari has tabs as well.. and if you don’t use tabs, just click the back arrow on your browser.

]]> By: DrDick http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656634 DrDick Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:48:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656634 <p>Seems to me that this really is a blatant shakedown by Wall Street. That does not mean that an intervention is not necessary, just that the one they want is bullshit. Krugman, Delong, and Roubini seem to agree that what we should do the nationalize the troubled institutions by buying controlling interest in priority shares so taxpayers get paid back before anyone else benefits at all. Also caps on executive compensation and a clawback of bonuses, stock options, and other extra compensation for the past several years. I would add sacking all current senior executives and permanently banning them for holding an executive position in any publicly held company and charging them with criminal fraud if possible. Bankruptcy reform to allow judges to reset mortgage terms on primary residences as well. These sound like a much better proposal than anything that is currently on offer.</p> Seems to me that this really is a blatant shakedown by Wall Street. That does not mean that an intervention is not necessary, just that the one they want is bullshit. Krugman, Delong, and Roubini seem to agree that what we should do the nationalize the troubled institutions by buying controlling interest in priority shares so taxpayers get paid back before anyone else benefits at all. Also caps on executive compensation and a clawback of bonuses, stock options, and other extra compensation for the past several years. I would add sacking all current senior executives and permanently banning them for holding an executive position in any publicly held company and charging them with criminal fraud if possible. Bankruptcy reform to allow judges to reset mortgage terms on primary residences as well. These sound like a much better proposal than anything that is currently on offer.

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656632 SouthernDragon Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:38:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656632 <p>Both IE and Firefox have tabs so you don’t have to do all that. Don’t know about Safari. Switch between tabs, refresh, voila.</p> Both IE and Firefox have tabs so you don’t have to do all that. Don’t know about Safari. Switch between tabs, refresh, voila.

]]> By: egregious http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656630 egregious Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:34:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656630 <p>dmac, we do our best to provide links back to FDL posts from partner blogs. Oxdown is a new experiment to provide a much greater voice to all folks here — we have already had terrific posts from people like Nahant and RevDeb and Massacio — surely this is worthwhile?</p> dmac, we do our best to provide links back to FDL posts from partner blogs. Oxdown is a new experiment to provide a much greater voice to all folks here — we have already had terrific posts from people like Nahant and RevDeb and Massacio — surely this is worthwhile?

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656628 dmac Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:15:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656628 <p>jayt i’m starting to feel like a floozy…..</p> <p>meet up-oct 12th weekend, your turf…….</p> <p>dmactree at yahoo.</p> <p>and i left because the squirrels were getting annoying, and the links to the next space led to nowhere and not bac k here, and i just went to the link egregious left to teddy and lo and behold it was to another plqace.l</p> <p>until there is a link back to where we came from i will not be a participant. too aggravating……i have repeatedly said for fdl to hav ethe calendar be back, to make it easier to go through treads that i missed, that is not happening, so, you go to a week ago, have to do a threqad by thread link, get to one thatisnot fdl, and have to start your search all over to get back to the next one…..</p> <p>not my bag. and not what i thought this place was all about. i haven’t been ihere for blue america or book salon in a while. which means my money hasn’t either.</p> <p>i spent three weeks trying to get in here and gave up and then when i could, i was led away to threads i did like, but didn’t have a direct link back to fdl……..no likey.</p> <p>i had a few things set for oxbow when it launched, i see it has, but i just linked there and it didn’t have a way back to fdl, and it replaced the newsbox, i don’t see that as a good thing…..</p> <p>that’s a fact.</p> <p>and my opinion didn’t seem to matter. so there we are. was checking back in to see if the servers were finally serving me.<br /> they are, so the other things can wait, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t matter….</p> <p>how many are aggravated by the inconvenience of links not linking back to fdl?</p> jayt i’m starting to feel like a floozy…..

meet up-oct 12th weekend, your turf…….

dmactree at yahoo.

and i left because the squirrels were getting annoying, and the links to the next space led to nowhere and not bac k here, and i just went to the link egregious left to teddy and lo and behold it was to another plqace.l

until there is a link back to where we came from i will not be a participant. too aggravating……i have repeatedly said for fdl to hav ethe calendar be back, to make it easier to go through treads that i missed, that is not happening, so, you go to a week ago, have to do a threqad by thread link, get to one thatisnot fdl, and have to start your search all over to get back to the next one…..

not my bag. and not what i thought this place was all about. i haven’t been ihere for blue america or book salon in a while. which means my money hasn’t either.

i spent three weeks trying to get in here and gave up and then when i could, i was led away to threads i did like, but didn’t have a direct link back to fdl……..no likey.

i had a few things set for oxbow when it launched, i see it has, but i just linked there and it didn’t have a way back to fdl, and it replaced the newsbox, i don’t see that as a good thing…..

that’s a fact.

and my opinion didn’t seem to matter. so there we are. was checking back in to see if the servers were finally serving me.
they are, so the other things can wait, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t matter….

how many are aggravated by the inconvenience of links not linking back to fdl?

]]> By: Blub http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656626 Blub Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:09:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656626 <p>sorry.. that last was a reply to #115</p> sorry.. that last was a reply to #115

]]> By: Blub http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656625 Blub Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:08:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656625 <p>the toxic assets targeted by the bailout is the first piece of a very long chain of causality.. the first domino if you will, or at least the first domino likely to fall. That chain totals many trillions… some say up to $5 or $7 trillion in potentially destroyed value.</p> the toxic assets targeted by the bailout is the first piece of a very long chain of causality.. the first domino if you will, or at least the first domino likely to fall. That chain totals many trillions… some say up to $5 or $7 trillion in potentially destroyed value.

]]> By: Twain http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656624 Twain Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:07:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/29/rashomon-2008/#comment-1656624 <p>I think the Rs detest McC and they tied Bush right around his neck today.</p> I think the Rs detest McC and they tied Bush right around his neck today.

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