What’s depressing, to a person like me, is that Obama has mastered the trick of coming off as perfectly moderate — even when your career and thought have been very different. Listening to Obama last night, you would have taken him to be a Sam Nunn, David Boren type. No ACORN, no Ayers, no Wright, no community-organizin’ radicalism, no nothing. He certainly knows what it takes to appeal to people in a general election. Then, once he’s in — if he gets in — he will govern as far to the left as possible.
Frightening!
Professional crackpot Mona Charen concurs: "Still, the McCain campaign has not yet done is most important job: showing the world what a true leftist Obama really is." Of course, Charen thinks that Obama enjoys tearing infants from young mothers’ wombs, presumably with his bare teeth, so you’d have to wonder what she wouldn’t believe about the Democratic nominee. In her defense, she cites a ridiculous Commentary article that charges, among many similarly fascinating claims, that Obama is a wild-eyed extremist because he disagrees with the Bush administration, once called Karl Rove "cynical," and believes that the Iraq war is the disastrous consequence of ideological fanaticism. Also rehearsed are the incredibly tedious Wright and Ayers smears and trivia.
There’s a lot to snark about here, as the notion that Obama is a radical leftist is absurd on its face. But a more substantial observation might be that it probably has not occured to cretins like Nordlinger and Charen that one of the reasons Obama came off so well in the debate last night according to the polls is that Obama is not, in fact, an Obamafascist Commie Gangsta Gay Elitist Gangbanger Muslim Abortionist. There’s just no way anyone, much less the really very mainstream Obama, could ever look in reality like the hysterically emailed and blogged-about wingnut version of him. All he needed for a win was to refrain from disclosing his plan to hand off the White House keys to Bin Laden next March.
I doubt they can notice this, though. First, they’re insane. Second, this is their industry: there’s pots of money and soft, cushy gigs involved in spinning horseshit fables about how Democrats are "socialists." They learned that in the Clinton administration. Third, I myself plan to be pushing Obama further to the left if he wins, and the same goes for the House and Senate leadership. Apart from the kookiness and the cupidity, their political goal is to try to intimidate the Dems from actually doing anything allegedly "leftist" but actually rational — stuff like sensibly regulating the markets, ending the war, stopping torture, dismantling the surveillance state, and establishing a national healthcare system that doesn’t suck ass, as opposed to the one we currently have.
None of this is crazy, or commie, or even especially radical, but I’m afraid that we’re going to have to actually convince the Democratic party of that after the election. First things first, though, and that’s the election.
The clip above is from Slap Shot, for Mr. Newman, and is completely unrelated to the post. Reggie Dunlop was, he said, his favorite role.
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Aloha, Thers!
Thers!
I want a prez to govern from the left. That is why I was supporting Kucinich.
Yeah, whatever, guys.
Maybe because, unlike McCrazyStupid or dubya, he actually is perfectly moderate?
Hey CT, you see my tutorial on slideshows over at the beach house?
good evening thers. how are you? thank you for the post tonight.
blogpimping in the first 10 comments?
Desperado time in Camp McCane.
Also, as an actual socialist, the idea that Obama is one of us or even a remote fellow traveler is rather akin to the idea that George W. Bush is a sane, sensible, and intelligent man.
Isn’t that the core problem with Obama?
Dang, Thers! NRO needs to put down the Kool Aid…
Good thing the polls say otherwise…! ;-)
Evening all.
Well, it is for me. 8-)
Brb…! ;-)
This is for eCAHN @ 10.
If you’re to the political right of Vlad Tepes, Obama will look like a radical leftist.
nope. educatin!
Remember, these folks thought Clinton was a commie too…
True. And that is the moderate wing of the modern Republican Party.
Hye yall Thers. Any A to my 10?
So what they’re saying is that they think Obama is a Democratic version of Bush.
Obama has mastered the trick of coming off as perfectly moderate
Because he isn’t a right wing zealot like McNutjob?
Hi eCAHN, left a reply for you downstairs. Nothing especially revelatory.
still rude to the writer of the post in my opinion
Oh, I know. They probably also would think Nixon and Ford were commies. Obama’s policies are considerably closer to theirs than to any actual socialist. The problem is that the entire Republican Party has moved to the right of Attila the Hun.
Um, so you are a mindreader? Posting responses before comments appear?
My apologies to Thers and Suzanne.
NRO is the submerged fascist ghetto beneath the Kool-Aid Sea.
You give her way too much credit, Thers!
Hey Suz!
Nope. Just too fast with the reply (before the page loads fully).
Shallow is as shallow does. Thanks for the A. We shall see!
At the moment he’s probably as far left as can actually win an election. It’s going to take a lot of time and effort to change that.
?
True, given the competition, I would have to rate her efforts as rather amateurish, at best. Now Krauthammer, there’s a truly professional crackpot.
With Palin bringing the Bircher element to McCain’s Flying (Lipsticked) Pig Circus, perhaps the time is ripe to remove the Commie strawman from storage.
I could tell his inner leftism, because I have a secret leftist decoder ring.
For instance, did you know that he wasn’t really calling Senator McCain by his first name? He was calling him TOILET.
Nah, over at NRO outing commies (and liberal fascists) is standard fare every day.
Oh well, that’s the standard left patter. I prefer to judge people (sheople?) by what they acutually say.
Oh, I see. Thanks Suzanne. Though I am rather hard to be disrespectful to, as I have no self-esteem.
What the hell are you talking about?
“Oh, no! Commie Nazis!”
–Ranier Wolfcastle
I apologize for sending CT over to my blog during the first few minutes of your thread.
Obama is clearly a very moderate “centrist,” even though the actual political center (defined by what most Americans respond in the polling data) is considerably to the left of him. Despite the absurd statements of rightwingers and media pundits, the country is in fact overwhelmingly center-left.
By “professional” I just mean that she actually gets PAID to write what she does. The pots of cash that are available to wingnut hacks — it really is astounding. Hell of a racket.
“Now, that’s what I call breakneck speed.”
-Marge Simpson
Nice tutorial, Tex!
So you say Obama is as far “left” as he can be to win the general. I say that he is really to the right of the polls, according to what Obama sez and what the polls say. Is that too complicated for you?
I think the irony that the only way the drivel produced by these rabid free marketers can get an airing is through wingnut welfare is totally lost on them.
Personally, I don’t mind, as I kind of got my “start” by blogwhoring in the Eschaton threads, and it is late on Sat night anyhow.
I hear ya.
In Elmore’s travel for Monday Night Football…. he is finding these wacky things are bleeding to the general public….. last weekend he spent a lot talking to one guy because he believed that Obama was arrogant and got all he has by affirmative action including access to Harvard…… Elmore was near to banging his head trying to make the guy understand that NO ONE gets into Harvard using affirmative action…….
So we would like to have a discussion on how to talk to these people and frame it right…..
An acquaintance who is a NYC lawyer for unions avers that polls are wrong. When I counter that Rs have tried to trounce labor movement in oh so many ways, he recounters: Americans are much more conservative than you are willing to admit.
Offered as evidence, not my opinion.
What the hell do you mean by “to the right of the polls”?
If someone further left could become party leader, then let them do it.
lol It is radical to be a community organizer.
So, by “rabid free marketers” you’re not suggesting they are rabies free, are you? In addition to their fomenting, they do quite a lot of foaming.
It’s a free world.
(As they used to say.)
CT was always free to go then as now.
I guess I need to bone up on my
Commenters’ Ethics and Standards.
Got a copy, Suzanne?
*raising a glass*
To Paul Newman!
*ding*
Love the clip, Thers.
Boehner pulls another boner…
A bunch of Commies…! ;-)
thers, i found a video for your post
First, NRO comes for the Commies and you don’t say a word.
Then the come for Unitarians and you don’t say a word.
Next they get the Soccer Moms and you don’t say a word.
After that they take away the Blue Dog Dems and you don’t say a word.
They follow up with the readers of Mother Jones and you don’t say a word.
Then finally they come for you and no one is left to speak for you.
And all that is left in NRO.
Dennis gave it his best shot, hope springs eternal. BTW, did you know he’s a Level 5 Vegan?
I’m still waiting for my check from George Soros.
To Paul Newman!
heh – I loved the Hanson brothers…
What does level 5 mean?
Part 4 of the Palin/Couric interview on SNL /s
excellent.
But that’s a different Q. The polls say that O is to the right of 70% (Iraq war, economY). Do you aver that someone to the left of O cannot be elected?
Time to start singing “Oh Canada…” ;-)
It wouldn’t matter how many hours you spent studying, copying, simplifying etc. info for people like you describe. Their minds are made up. Maybe with people like this is best to just cut the discussion and hope they don’t bother to vote.
It means he’s killed more kobolds than I have.
Can’t wait!
Fey is da’bomb at this
Or “Guantanamera.”
Oh God…
This post was inspired by True Life. My wife was registering voters in Scranton today, and someone asked her if she was “working for Obama.” She said yes, and he said “hope you like living in a Communist dictarorship!”
It is a reference to a line from an episode of the Simpsons in which a character says, “I’m a Level 5 Vegan, I won’t eat anything that casts a shadow.”
It’s kind of hard to ridicule the ridiculous. But they manage.
I gather that would be worse somehow than a fascist dictatorship?
I do. Because to get elected president you need to get through the party machinery and through the media grinder. These currently enforce a certain ideological orthodoxy.
That’s pretty obvious.
This stuff writes itself.
Amazing, the stacked irony in this campaign.
Guess that cuts out most vegetables, grains and nuts. I suppose algae is still acceptable.
excellent.
thanks – caught the end. priceless.
And then his head exploded.
HA! She was working with a college student, and the kid shot back “beats living in a fascist dictatorship.”
Sometimes the youth of America make my heart swell with patriotic pride.
Must be one of those “swing voters” I keep hearing about.
In recent decades Democrats have been better at governing in two situations: when things are bad and when they’re good.
In decent times: Clinton took a slow economy and gave us very good times and a balanced budget.
In bad times: FDR took a depression and fixed things so well we’ve kept those laws until recently, when Republicans repealed them and gave us another crisis (said to be) as bad as the Great Depression.
When was the last time a Republican governed well? It’s hard to recall really. Some say George H. W. Bush wasn’t too bad, but that’s not saying much. He also ran up our federal government debt several trillion dollars. Some say Reagan wasn’t too bad, but he allowed the S&L crisis and various other scandals AND ran up the federal government debt a trillion dollars. He also began a long effort by Republicans to destroy unions, the minimum wage, the Education department and various other programs.
The only problems we saw with the Clinton administration was that he DIDN’T govern far enough to the Left. He let NAFTA go through and the Gramm trickery in the Banking Modernization Act and he pushed some poor folk off welfare. If he’d been further to the Left we might not have gotten those mistakes.
Republicans have a lot to do to prove they’re really capable of being trustworthy with a real majority in Congress or with the Presidency.
We can’t trust John McCain to roll the dice with Social Security and the economy.
That bastard never pays up…
Tina Fey doing Palin on SNL! Wow!
Equally importantly, you need to get funding, which is controlled by the wealthy, whose political positions are often rather more to the right than the rest of us (since they benefit from the system as it is).
Oh, now I understand you. You say polls are shit. Each to his own.
Snarking at Suz makes you an ass.
Those are mostly the folks that won’t vote for a black man, but don’t have the guts to say so.
SNL & TDS will have to rethink once Palin is outa here.
Comedy gold she is.
I disagree in part. I think there are many in the public who don’t understand they their political leaders have betrayed them and their principles. They preached “small government” and “fiscal responsibility” for decades and now their leaders have led us to Trillions in debt.
I think the fiscal responsibility of the Clinton years has to convince some of them that ANY Democrat can be trusted more than these Bush-McCain politicians.
We can’t trust McCain, but there are responsible Democrats we have to trust.
hopefully they will have it up on C&L tomorrow.
Priceless indeed!
Maybe it is progress (albeit minor) if they are ashamed enough of their true feelings to attempt to keep them hidden.
Bite me.
Name one in leadership.
No actually this guy wasn’t one of the 28%’ers….. very progressive on the whole but the MSM & Faux and wingnut radio had bleed through……..
Elmore talked to a die heard McCain supporter at the Phoenix Airport Friday and got the guy to thinking in a different paradigm… … His frame discussing how Obama runs his campaign, organized, runs like clockwork, in the black and then brings up when he was a community organizer….. starting with 3 employees and budget of $35K and in three years grew it to 140 employees and a budget of $400K of a wildly successful program…….. Then what Elmore says….. BushCo has run this country into the ground….. can’t manage themselves out of a paperbag……. then drops this…. I want Obama to run this country like he has run everything else……. Elmore said you could see the wheels turning …..
Hence, public financing of campaigns, and, the media being forced to give up free time/space for candidates… Glorified PSA’s…! That’d go a long ways…!
Ted Kennedy?
Well, what I described is the moderate wing of the Republican Party here in Montana. The others are to the right of Dr. Mengele.
Right. The entire structure is tilted heavily rightwards. Which isn’t at all surprising.
***let’s all take a deep breath and calm down for a minute***
starting over – nice thread ya got here thers. would be a shame if something where to uh happen to it
Ph yeah, and what has Ted
I met a young man in the 1980s who worked at the Army Corps of Engineers one summer while attending Harvard. He said it was an easy school once you got in. But then, he could also solve a Rubik’s cube behind his back in less than 30 seconds.
I’m guessing Obama impressed some people with his performance at Columbia Univ. and that got him into Harvard.
Uh-oh, all this sniping over lil ole me…? 8-(
SNL doing a debate skit….
OOppss, some button got pressed to soon. Meant to say, what has Ted Kennedy actuallly accomplished, other than empty rhetoric? He’s the leader of what?
Obama’s vote on FISA and his activities re nuclear power hardly qualify him as a flaming liberal. He’s no progressive and no liberal, but he’s sane and intelligent and so is Biden, which leaves them as Team A. The opposition isn’t even in the same alphabet.
Hee hee. No worries.
Of course he’s a Marxist, the little green man told me so…And one of my favorites, too.
;>)
Maple Leaves all around!
What’s up?
Not to invoke the ‘royalty’ status to anyone, Teddy is one very Liberal dude in a Senate full of DINO’s and Gooper radicals.
fuck
Wheels wobbled a bit. I will miss just knowing that Paul Newman was alive. He was a wonderful actor and a great human being. No typical Hollywood type. RIP
Assuming facts not in evidence.
And even if they were, not enuf to garner my vote. Yall cave in much too soon.
It’s probably best not to tell him that makes no sense.
sort like arguing against fishy tartarship or something
And what the hell does the dumb f**k call what we’re in now?
Right. It’s been a long time since we had a president who was at least… presentable.
He’ll need to be pushed farther left, if he wins (I think he will). That will involve taking control of the party machinery, for openers.
Raising the age old Q of whether lip service is better than no service at all.
Public financing would be good, though I think lowering the limits for contributions could help as well. Definitely should require all broadcast media to air a fixed amount of free political ads from all candidates on the ballot. I think placing a statutory limit on the length of the campaigns would help as well. Say, no primaries before July and no campaign organizing before January of the election year.
Leader of a party that can’t even mount an effective opposition when they are in the majority.
I believe I am more or less in agreement with you, I’ve been casting lesser of two evils votes for as long as I can remember.
I’m pretty tired though and believe I’ll turn in. Have a nice evening, all.
Good for Elmore; great advice for those folks between the 28% and the 50%!
It’s a very long road to just recover the semblance of sanity lost to the current occupants. We have our 25 year plan spread before us.
Me too. Nite.
wow
I was an ass before I snarked unacceptably.
I apologize for my snakfraction.
As an ass, what happens when I make a further ass of myself?
Suzanne knows I love her.
Hell, I love you.
(Answering my own question: Ass Squared.
(am i now related to Sponge Bob?))
Let me guess. Whatever I say you’ll just say, “No you’re wrong.”
Tedious!
Just always remember, it’s the Republicans who took us into the Great Depression and have now brought us to the precipice of another one.
And the alternative is…….?
And have laid out an agenda and candidate ensured to treble the pain.
Heh. Good one. Say, what IS a moderate blood-thirsty savage?
Tastes just like chicken
And just remember who took impeachment off the table and allowed these bastards to continue to wreck anything and everything they’ve ever touched. There are some very good dems however, they are NOT in our leadership.
Aloha, ratfood and eCAHN!
Marc Racicot.
LOL!
Man o’ man,
as this gets nearer to the finish line and Big O stays strong, these lunatics are gonna pull out all the stops.
The purpose being, to strip him of any legitimacy.
Shades of the Arkansas Project.
Fuck!
C
That was not snark. That is a “moderate” Montana Republican.
Wow as well–??
Nothing to worry about. The mods here just deserve respect, is all. We’re cool.
Good to hear your voice DarkBlack.
thanks
Just wait until he attempts to govern.
From the NYT’s: Don’t Blame the New Deal
Repubs have presidency and Supreme court and most of the Federal judgeships and one seat less in the Senate (with filibuster power).
I wouldn’t say Dems are in control of much. Our best is that the House and Senate leaders control what legislation comes up for consideration. They can’t ram anything through over the McConnell filibuster and Bush veto.
I don’t blame Congressional Dems for ANYTHING. … YET
If we get the Presidency, then I’ll consider it.
Nite ratfood, nice to see you.
nice to see everyone here.
Thers, great post.
hey db
Is that something out of the Bible?
I agree with the premise to a point, Leahy, Waxman, Conyers, and, Dodd as Chairs have done excellent work, however, Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer, Rahm, et al, have been as productive as teats on a lip-sticked Boar…!
You saw the plan? Link please?
All I’ve heard was House Repubs killed it.
Holding the line on the Constitution would be a good start.
If it means war with the Executive branch, it’s a war worth fighting.
Dang it! I missed out on the troll? Suz, was it nice and crunchy?
Speaking of the Republican party platform. The ‘plan’ is unknown to me and caries it’s own fresh Hell.
*burp*
I thought you threw it back.
Heh, do ya need an acid reflux pill…? ;-)
Freedom!
Say, what IS a moderate blood-thirsty savage?
At the moment, I’d say that the New York Times is doing a pretty fine imitation.
They’re *killin* McCrazy.
Just cannot *wait* to see what the next brilliant
tacticstrategy the McCampaign comes up with next.psssst, hey Johnnie, how’s about pissing off the WaPo as well?
Sounds like the butt ugly sucker my buddy caught this afternoon when we went fishing.
Just when you thought they couldn’t be any more shameless. . .
hard to know what to do with that.
Creepy thought to end the night on, but it must be.
I blame them.
I blame them for the FISA debacle. It was dead and then Reid just had to bring it up again. Why?
I blame them for not beginning the process of impeachment. Sure it wouldn’t have passed the Senate – but the fact if the investigation would prevent Bush and Cheney from pardoning themselves and all their cronies before they leave office.
And the investigations would have given a ton of information to the public – who still don’t realize how much criminal activity was/is going on.
And the fact that no investigation has led a whole new ‘generation’ of politicians to believe they can act with impunity (Troopergate anyone?)
Jay, look at my 158.
Breaking: Bristol in labor as she readies for emergency wedding; To Odd deserts on snowmobile; Gov. Palin has hangnail, postpones debate.
Thankee
Well, McCain has been practicing shamelessness for 25 years, so he is really pretty polished at it.
Speaking of good Dems… Let’s Play “WALLSTREET BAILOUT”
As I have said before, Kaptur for president!
Exactly. Try ignoring a subpoena if you’re not bushco or under the protection of the McNutjob campaign.
With DK as Veep…? ;-)
Who are you voting for then?
try ignoring
I really miss edit.
So we would like to have a discussion on how to talk to these people and frame it right
Indeed. Would be great to have a post and discussion exploring this.
ES and others touched on this issue last night at late late.
Money quote:
“You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”
And that, ladies and germs, is the entire goal of the McCampaign. Distract, distract, distract.
I would probably prefer a word much stronger than “wanker”, but I think I may have used a month’s quota of profanities watching the debate last night. *g*
Breaking: Bristol in labor as she readies for emergency wedding;
Sarah – “Bristol, you’re a Palin. Walk it off.”
Which is why I refuse to watch.
Game, set, match.
dugg
Edited for clarity…! ;-)
I may have used a month’s quota of profanities watching the debate last night.
I finally had to walk away from the teevee, I was screaming at it. Mr tbsa suggested I take a break from watching.
I did that 25 years ago. Has done wonders for my sanity and my budget (haven’t had to replace a single TV during an election!).
Which is why I refuse to watch.
heh, Who needs yard-sales? Just watching a debate, I
breakumm, get rid of lots of stuff it turns out Ididn’t really needcan learn to live without.The first thing you have to understand is that the 22%ers have an entirely different set of frames around every issue. A frame is the automatic response that is generated when someone mentions an idea or in this case, a policy.
Until you understand the frame that they are using – there is literally no way to communicate with them because you and they are speaking an entirely different language.
Yep.
I decided I wouldn’t watch any of the others. I am half tempted to watch the Veep debate though.
Given that they also inhabit an alternate reality which does not actually follow the laws of physics, I doubt communication is actually possible (presuming that there is actual intelligent life in their universe).
I’ve just learned new cusswords in a couple of furrin languages.
No way on God’s green earth would I watch that. Watched the Palin interviews on CBS and it was excruciatingly painful.
An announcement from the White House shortly…CNN just said so…RE: the bailout bill…
I can offer a couple from Muskogee. Well not actual cuss words, as they do not have any, but words that would be cuss words in English.
Did you see that study published recently that said you can tell which political affiliation a person is likely to hold based on their “startle” response? Those with a big one are Rs and small is Ds.
It goes a long way to explain the fear-all-the-time thing that works so well with them.
Even when they are not being told by their Lord High Chimp to be afraid – they naturally ARE afraid of literally everything!
I watch. Best to keep an eye on the proceedings, even if it is irksome.
Press conference, there might be a deal.
Pelosi is talking…
There is a deal….
Oh dear, I was hoping for no bail-out. I would rather wait a bit and let the ‘market’ settle down a bit before doing anything more. This is absolutely insane – and none of these people know what they are doing. The ‘experts’ are the ones who got us into this mess, and the rest of them…well ’nuff said.
I’ve just learned new cusswords in a couple of furrin languages.
See – there’s always an upside!
Nancy looks happy – that’s not a good sign.
I saw that and several others that make similar claims about psychological differences between progressives and conservatives. I think there is undoubtedly something there, but they are having problems operationalizing it.
Oh noes, Schumer is cited…! This does not bode well…….
ian upstairs
Yeah, how do you take a huge group of people who are ‘genetically programmed’ to be idiots and change them into thinking, rational ones?
Always makes me sad when Nancy is happy.
The GOP must be going nuts we often complain about Obama being to much a Center Dem and I’ve been to Koz I’ve been to Suz’s we are older middle class and largely White.
We should be GOP voters.
But the GOP cannot accept even that reality and why we don’t like them in favor of Obama. Maybe its because the GOP lies so much, McCain lied about Healthcare and the middle class getting taxed during the debate.
He dismissed rather than addressed the issues Obama talked about.
As if 7 years of Bush doing that hasn’t led us to ruin.
I’m switching to diapers whenever she smiles.
More better Democrats.
Off to bed. Take care all and beware the wicked witch of the West Coast.
Nite, Dr Dick
Night all.
nite thers
I am victim of a compulsive protectiveness towards TexBetsy.
You’re being protective of our Suzanne.
It’s all good.
I worship at the altar of all moderators and tech support workers.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of FDL ….
oh, well give them here.
As many have pointed out in here in this excellent thread by Thers and by excellent comments (aside from some one single person who has NEVER had a good thing to say about anyone and DAMN that’s some tiresome shit) it’s ONE thing to even get elected. It’s another to govern . . .
Like others, I wanted Kuch. Hell, even Edwards looked good for a while, again.
But they didn’t make the cut. Life hurts. I’m long over it.
Obama, he had a message, and inspired and inspires, hope for change.
I’ll vote on hope, at this point, given what these facist bastards have DONE to our country.
And I’m referring to the 1% who have bought and ruled our elected officials since Nixon (ok, Nixon was brought DOWN by the 1% cuz he threatened EVERYONE!, but they got his ass elected), and then Reagan, and 12 years BushCo.
The 1% have SOMEHOW let the same fucks since the late 50’s and 60’s suck our country dry in every front.
These days’ they are called neocons. They’ve morphed a few times over the decades and from what Leo Strauss originally conjured them up to be, but it’s still the same fucks and the 1% has run them like sled dogs to funnel wealth from we the people into the few hands of the 1%.
But now, even the 1% are running scared as the game got out of control. . . .
Anyhoots, back to my reply GW @ 108 . . .
Obama ran different in the primary. Then he’s shifted in Congress, and in the National Run.
Am I worried . . . yes . . . but hell, he’s a breath of fresh air compared to the others as you say, and so far, he’s my guy!!!
Am I disappointed he backtracked to get nominated? Yes.
Am I disappointed he’s backtracked MORE to run the National? Sure.
Can I predict what he might GOVERN LIKE, in the future once elected? No.
But I can sure as hell hope, and wish.
And that’s more than any others on the ticket can give me.
Let’s get the man elected, with his VP.
Then, if they don’t take care of progressive issues, we hold feet to fire for our other elected officials, and we mount criticism and dissent for the things we don’t like in the WH.
But for Bhudda’s phreakin sake, let’s get him ELECTED!!!!
Had we progressives been holding feets to fires for the past 30 phreaking years we wouldn’t BE in this sitch.
And so, to that ONE person in here (NOT GW!!!) who is a bigger killjoy for EVERY thing than I’ve ever seen (I sure hope hope you recognize yerself) I’ll close with:
. . . this shit is YOUR fucking fault as much as it is mine or anyone else’s who stopped being active in politics while they turned up the water in the pot on us frogs, and you are doing NOTHING to fix it, but whine and complain about politicians who have to get elected first, to be able to govern and change.
At least the rest of us NOW, are hoping and voting and realizing we gotta DO something.
And the ‘urge for doing’ (heh heh yeh folkie line thanks Joni Mitchell so long ago) wells up GREATLY in us all anymore, thanks to the blogs, and folks who day by day in here at FDL, and everywhere else, keep THEIR noses to the grindstones of false reporting, lies, and thieving connivery perpetuated by people who have shown NO interest in the past 30 years or more in aiding, abetting or helping the middle class in the USA, or anywhere else, to thrive.
You. Not so much. Would you like some more Mad Dog 40/40? Red Mountain? Spanada? You know, to enhance yer cheap whine? If you don’t got something positive to say . . . . I hate to pull the redneck thang on ya, but, why not just GO somewhere else if you don’t like it here so much?
Harumph.
*G*
Sorry folks, it had to come out . . .*G*
Fishing caustic waters? (whistles innocently)
The sad thing is…they know exactly what they are doing. Stealing the future of many…you know who…the 99% that don’t have disgusting amounts of wealth. They just pulled off a bloodless takeover of the USA!