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I kept hearing about McCain and CGI this week, so I thought that was going to be his solution for the debate. I mean, not only would it allow him to simultaneously debate Obama and blow up Congress’s negotiations, but the CGI McCain would also look much more healthy and lifelike. Obviously, that didn’t happen, which is too bad for him. But hey, at least the backdrop isn’t green…
So far, John McCain has shed crocodile tears for Teddy Kennedy to preface his bipartisan posturing, has prattled on about the importance of responsibility as the reason why the chief of the SEC and no-one else should resign, and is wearing a bizarre red-and-white-striped diagonal tie that makes me want to call him John McCandycain. Maybe he’s trying to make some kind of subliminal point about Christmas-tree bills?
Oh, and John McCain’s pen is old, but not too old to make earmarkers famous. So I guess that means his pen chose Sarah Palin as his running mate – which would explain a lot, actually.
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Scrub every agency of gummint–McCrusty
ach, the ”uhs” are back.
The aerial tankers… McSame said he fought for it…???
JOHNS RIGHT……………….oh for fukks sake
Where are their Yamakas?
I’m not feeling particularly happy so far… If he says “John’s right” one more time I think I’ll SCREAM.
Heh. Obama not wildly liberal, just opposed to Dubya.
I assume he didn’t mean that directionally…
Yeah I’m tired of that myself. Stop saying it
Obama needs to man up – the old man is kicking him.
railing about. nice.
Well, he is pretty far to the right.
Yeah, big mistake.
I wish Obama didn’t buy into this bipartisan crap. Obama needs to channel the ANGER the American people feel toward Bush.
Is Google for Govmint like Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs?
This is making me nervous and I’m not even watching.
Obama is weak as water, weak as water
Rip him on vets, dammit!
Defense spending only.
Hit him on the veterans stuff Obama.
Go Jim! Better to make ‘em both look bad than let Mc run wild.
McCain: spending freeze except for our veterans whom I keep screwing over.
Iraq spending–cut it.
Oh, bite me, John. He’s now babbling about helping veterans, whom he’s voted AGAINST time and time and time again…
Finally, Cut the fucking war!!!
yayy mentioned irag finally
All McCain can talk about is spending freezes and earmarks.
Yay — Obama talks about ending the Iraq War!
sadly yes.
I’m getting dizzy. The tie. The tie.
Your joking right? ANGRY MILITANT BLACK MAN
FINALLY EYERAQ
Ah, war. Do this well Barry, you could get hurt if you do it badly.
the fucker wants to cut veterans’ benefits.
about time Obama mentions Iraq.
Republicans suck at job creation.
Is it possible that Obama is simply completely lacking in the “go for the jugular” gene?
He wants us to stop sending money overseas to countries that don’t like us?
Like Iraq, Senator?
As long as McCain doesn’t have a complete meltdown, his Captain Queeg moment, the corporate media will declare him the winner. Leher is nothing more than a corporate media celebrity hack whose predilictions for the wealthy and well connected are obvious.
McCain wants to nuke us!
McCain wants to make us all GLOW from 45 nuclear power plants.
booo nucular power. Ask him where the waste would go Obama
LIAR…talk about Plin and climate change
BTW since WHEN is Mc a climate change crusader???
51st!
1/2 hour Lehrer has been trying to get a straight answer out of them about the economy and it isn’t working.
yes
Move on, Jim. They gave you their answers.
This is so weird – Obama seems to be playing for a tie.
Sorry, Jim Lehrer, the President of the United States does not “rule the country.” Go back to school, fuckwit.
Civility is kind of his brand.
McNutJob voted against vets. Obama should ask him why he wants to fund them now.
Lehrer keeps hammering away at how will the meltdown affect their Presidency.
Obama is being honest about the bailout costs.
Yeah, actually 44th – did better than expected.
NOW – kick ass Barack!
You have reason to be nervous.
Since it’s convenient.
He is from Chi town politics. No way he would have survived if he didn’t know how to go for the jugular. Remember he has to temper his responses because he is a black man (sorry but it is the truth)
Nuclear Power there goes Nevada and no it costs to much because you just know the government will get stuck paying for a cleanup no insurer will issue a policy without a understanding with the Government on who pays.
Solar and wind are cheaper no meltdowns.
say rich motherfukkers OBI
Barack has to quit saying ”John’s Right” Jeebus, does he not know that video tape and sound bites exist?
Every fucking mccain commercial until 4 Nov: ”John’s Right”
Fuckity fuck fuck
fuck leher. the president governs – not rules.
Oh yeah, God forbid that everyone should have healthcare like Medicare. That would be *awful*.
Why would we be handing over health care? make him back it up.
I think this goes beyond civility. I’m civil, but I also know how to fight for my life.
Eeet moves so fast. I jingle my keys in his general direction
How ya feel about insurance companies making all the health care decisions, Johnny Boy?
“cut spending” is McCain’s touchstone. He always comes back to it when he’s stumped.
“Don’t want the government taking over health care”
You mean like the socialization of Wall Street this week, Johnny?!
he keeps throwing out 800 billion bet that is the talking point tomorrow
Hit him on the vet vote Barack
John has 10 homes Obi,Merkins are gettingpushed into the street
The Bush tax cuts worked, eh?
Lowering taxes has worked great so far
Please keep talking about healthcare John after the Michael Moore film “Sicko ” came out that issue is a loser.
There are so many openings. McC says take care of veterans….but that’s not his record.
John gets points for repeating the same shit over and over
“I got plans.”
Obama doesn’t want to say anything that makes him look like an Angry Liberal.
We own China $500 million because we have WAR we’re not paying for, asshole
Both of these people make me intensly embarrassed to be an American. I’ve never seen such lilly livered shit from a D in my life. As bad as Clinton, Gore & Kerry were, Obama is whimp extraordinare.
bing bing bing
SSSHHHHH… Hush… Don’t give them ideas.
OK–he’s going at the record…….finally
.
ORGY OF SPENDING
w
McCain lies once again on his health care plan. Will Obama be sytrong?
Go Obama
Oh, man. Including taking care of our veterans (which you’ve voted against?)
I thought you didn’t want the government involved in the healthcare system, Senator.
And you’re spending huge amounts of money to increase the number of veterans who need it.
90% of the time! Yay!
heh heh heh he said “orgy” – mccain
*clink*
McCain squirming visibly when Obama holds him responsible for Dubya’s out-of-control spending.
Obama brings up McCain agreeing with Bush and all of Bush’s big spending.
Kicking now on agreeing with Bush budgets.
YeS!~ Your president! With whom you have voted 95% of the time!
Go Barry! Tie Mc to W, but good!!!
YES You voted for the SPENDING! YES
Hell yeah Barry. Now that’s what I want to hear mister 90%.
HIT HIM AGAIN
Miss Congeniality again.
What a liar.
SAY IT AGAIN. YOU VOTED FOR THE SPENDING.
Finally hits him on his record. “Miss Congeniality” is proud of his record!
McCain keeps repeating the “miss congeniality” line.
Photoshoppers, ho!
Obama nails McCain–voted for Bush’s runaway deficit spending, 90 percent agreement. Good return.
McCain tries to lie his way out of it.
I agree,Obi has no fire in his belly… he better wake up.
Wake up America… remember Denis?
Wow, McCain is lying about everything. Torture? Lie Spending? Lie
He called HIMSELF a maverick?!
Ouch. He used his own nickname?
I don’t remember McCain opposing *any* of that shit he said he opposed…
How many fucking times do we have to hear this miss congeniality bullshit??
Maverick partner! Does Cindy know?
OK. Obama: McCain, your party’s President presided over this mess, your Mr. 90%.
health care is crushing people across the country…Obama. McCain wants families to make the decision on health care with their $5000 tax credit they get at the end of the year. Right. McCain is not looking at Obama at all – Obama is looking at McCain – he looks more confident and reasonable. Obama – “it’s your president who has presided over all of this deficit spending” McCain answers again that he is not sandra bullock, or excuse me, Miss congeniality. Has the nerve to say he opposed torture (except if the CIA does it)
ooooooh you LIE Johnny McMaverick.
Miss Congeniality again!!
surge time
Should he brag about his VP?
and my new sweetie is a maverick like me!!
Agreed. Dual citizenship has it’s advantages.
Great question: Lessons of Iraq
McCaingeniality.
Iraq time….
Repeating himself like Palin does. Sign of weakness.
SAY it was disengenuous nJohn
We need a McLie counter!
Everybody celebrated?
Took vacations in Iraq – whoopie!
I’m getting too cross to type. I think I’ll just sit here and snarl and drink and rely on y’all for commentary… [snarl]
McCain: Iraq can’t have a failed strategy. Now claiming this strategy has succeeded. Bullshit.
Why does he keep saying he wasn’t elected Miss Congeniality? We know, Senator. Governor Palin was.
The question was did you vote against any of the big ticket spending items. No, you didn’t. If you managed to leave matters so you voted with them and they still don’t like you, it sounds like a personal problem.
Back at the record….back at it now and forever….O’ has to ignore Lehrer….go back.
.
McCain touting the surge and its “success”.
I cannot keep up with this pace.
Later, dudes!
[shakes keys at screen]
We are winning in Iraq too bad Ossama is in Pakistan moron
Obama may be from Chicago, but he’s brought a feather duster to a knife fight.
“a stable ally in the region”
bwahahahahahaha
McCain can lie but only those who KNOW his lies can tell.
Liars get away with it. The press won’t call them.
Why is McNutjob allowed to run on at the mouth with NOTHING to fucking say?
Occupations always fail, Johnny McMaverick.
actually, Palin lied about the Miss Congeniality thing, too, didn’t she?
Talk about lesson of Vietnam
lesson of Iraq!
McCain names all the phony baloney crap about the supposed success of the surge – unfnbelievable.
Secretaries have always been violent in Iraq.
“We are winning in Iraq” except that we’re not.
Fuckity fuck-fuck fuck fuck fuck
Cheers and peace everyone.
MCcain just stumbled on National Security question.
Wow, anyone on CNN? McC bombs with the dems and independents when talking about Iraq.
Whooo HOO we won the fucking WAR!!
Digg is open Pups!
“I opposed the war” – DRINK!
Hammer on the war, BO. Wait, that came out poorly…
Please please please please make McCain define “victory”
Iran will control Iraq the day we leave, butt head. What a fool. He still lives in the “politicians lost Vietnam” mindset. Like a bad Chuck Norris movie on the stage.
C’mon – snarl with us!
Yes we haven’t caught Bin Laudin!
Obama is having his Dukakis moment. His professorial approach will not capture the imagination of anyone but the most partisan Democrat. He seems to lack a fire in the belly and a killer instinct.
I wish I had been wrong????
He thought it was another econ lies 101 question – but they swithced to Iraq and mixed with Vietnam – he actually wavered in his voice as well.
Obama much better prepped for Iraq question. McCain spouted talking points about the Surge™
I’ve got to empty the puke bukket
I must be watching a different debate. I think Obama is energized and responding. McCain is talking about ear marks…
And that’s surprising because…?
McCain is so full of shit. He can’t possibly believe himself. But then again, he invoked St David of Petraeus.
yup
SNARL!
Alright. BO tying the war to the bad economy.
Obi is going down with a TKO
The Surge. The Splurge. The Purge.
I think Palin was Miss Pitbull, not congeniality. Cheney in lipstick.
On CNN his false “INDY” poll even went down.
He totally was not ready for the switch.
Since this is just blogging its easy to say that his mind is slow.
Hell how many wpm can ya think McCain?
sadly, you here or are you already drunk?
That old pen of his, would it be a magic earmarker?
I agree, Barry is on top now and Mc is a weak tape loop.
Alright!
I think he has had some strong and weak moments.
”Look, my friends…”
I hate McCain
Barack just needs to show Americans that he’s not H. Rap Brown. I think he wins if there’s a tie.
There are two more debates. Once Americans realize that Obama’s not going to impregnate their daughters telepathically, he’ll be able to be more forceful.
Next prez will need to think about if we went into Iraq… why? Since we need not per say go into another one.
Fundamental difference: McCain assumes that war is good.
I’ll drink to that.
drunk,and pissed
OMG, Obama didn’t go to Iraq or talk to Petraeus! How can he possibly know *anything* about Iraq???
Oh smack him on Palin.
Big response for Obama here.
“oversights NATO”? Oooh. VP talk!
Anyone who votes for this stupid geriatric wanker is an idiot.
Hi gang! Why do they keep letting McCain go on and on babbling?
i want to crawl under a table.
Takes Obama a while to get rolling.
Oooh. Brought up Biden choice. Good move.
Is McCain’s pen the same one that Bob Dole holds in his dead arm?
Oh Johnny you don’t want to go into performance in the Senate where you never even show up for work.
The Surge is a win because we are bankrupt from war spending? I thought that was Ossam’s plan?
Why? Because Obama has no left hook?
Bah ha he smacked him.
Pulled off an anti-Palin on the sly as well.
MCCain is absolutely right AGAIN he says it
The point of the surge was to allow political reconciliation, which has not happened yet.
arrrgh, another “John is right”
Ignore Lehrer, the man will always return to the trivial.
.
McCain let’s not discuss how we got into Iraq. Still says it’s a success. Except there has been no political settlement in Iraq, you know the purpose of the surge.
Oh God, both praising that idiot Petraeus.
he votes AGAINST VETS
What on earth does Lehrer think he’s doing? The man is blatantly. breaking. the. rules.
He’s not responding to the question, he’s talking over his opponent, and he’s talking out of term.
Make him stop, Mr. Lehrer. That’s your _job_
Lessons from Iraq? How about attacking a country that posed us no credible threat? How about knowing you can win the military campaign but not have a frigging clue about how to win the occupation? How about not budgeting or demanding domestic sacrifice or not having the right tools to fight a war and bloodier occupation? How about not shooting first, trying diplomacy, instead. Talking with enemies is what diplomacy is for; anyone can talk to their friends.
Trains are slow to start and hard to stop.
Obama finally takes the gloves off!
don’t be pissed hon. mccain is a liar and this was going to have to play out
Obama does best when he’s talking directly at McCain..keep it up!!!!!
YOU WERE WRONG!!!!
He got “INDY” rise and attach as well as really not even going there. Thats right prep them for the harder hits.
Obama – John, you were wrong!
Calling McC on how wrong he was going into Iraq.
Sweet, Obama telling McCain he was wrong on Iraq.
YOU WERE WRONG
he’s doing the lecture bit as though he is the prof who shall not be questioned. this will not go over well.
Obama getting angry at McCain: “You were wrong!”
It doesn’t matter if McSame believes himself. Does the corporate media believe him and does the low information voter believe him? That is the question. The answer is yes.
You were wrong. You were wrong. You were wrong.
Well, about time on that one.
HE DID IT AGAIN!!! He said “Sen. McCain is right” AGAIN. We’ll be fucking inundated with commercials tomorrow with him saying that and paid for by the McCain campaign.
“You were wrong” — Go BO, go.
What the Fuck – McCain WILL NOT look at Obama
who is this man standing at Obama’s podium?
“You were wrong!”
yay.
I understand completely. *g*
OKAY he got Obie mad
McCain hiding behind troops now
OH MY GAWD
obama actually allowed mccain to get away with saying he voted AGAINST the president on torture
and now mccain gets into his strength making believe the surge was a success
Obama doesn’t understand the difference between a tactic and strategy?!?!?! My head just exploded.
He gets it EXACTLY
Come curl up in the fetal position next to me…
I got the feeling that up until now, Obama did not hate McCain.
You can see it brewing in his eyes now.
He needs that.
you all (some) keep talking about O not having any fire in his belly but he can’t go at him hard. I know you all are color blind but lots of america aren’t
McCain “let us win” still trying to win Viet Nam?
Ah, McCain is prolonging the war for the troops who want to win.
The war is ALREADY LOST. The Democrats are the only ones willing to admit it.
They re-enlisted because the FUCKING HAD NO OTHER EMPLOYMENT PROSPECTS you fucking fucker!!!
Go for it! Attack, BO!
STFU John your bullshit is fucking old. The re-enlistment. Ask any one of them and they stayed because they didn’t want to leave their buddies behind!!
Iraq was not worth the cost, period. McCain is making up tales about Iraq.
Ask McCain if there is 24/7 power, water, sewer in Baghdad today
Oh, because, oh, because, we are actually winning. Or is that whining.
oh goody, let’s talk about Gramps and Lindsay’s trip to Iraq!
McCain sounds like an idiot
Mc Cain is getting mad now. THis could turn out well….
ok, you guys are making me want to turn the feed back on, I turned it off, couldn’t take it any more…obama bounced back I hope?
Bah, missed some of it.
We just passed an election law in Iraq?
They’ve been holding elections for a few years now, Senator. You all died your fingers. Were they not free and fair elections? Why haven’t you mentioned it before?
Senator McCain has never heard of Pyrrhic victory
OMFG — Obama better say that McCain made the same vote to cut troop funding.
get em on the vet funding Obama
INDY above blue line again.
At minute 45, McCain sez “… Obama doesn’t understand the difference between tactics and strategy.”
Fatal error on McCain’s part.
Suggests he’s not really been studying Obama’s campaign structure and organization.
McCain’s still fighting ‘the last war’.
Always disastrous.
No more “Senator mcCain is right” bullshit.
His response was good–only diff is timetable.
I’ll say this – Obama is BY FAR the smarter man.
not much.
Obama is making a good point on strategy vs tactics and hammering McCain with it. Very good.
looking for a silver lining here…. maybe this experience will be something that shocks obama enough to wake him up.
Leher is a rich celebrity hack well connected to the ruling elites. Does anyone on this blog actually think there is anyone in the corporate media that isn’t a closet Republican?
Obi did debate prep for no end whatesoever. He’s a complete failure.
He’s on it.
Sen. Obama doesn’t understand the difference between a tactic and a strategy? Sen. McCain doesn’t understand the difference between a one-liner and managing the most complex government in the world. And Obama, never, ever repeat your opponent’s one liners when they zing you. Please.
“Winning” in Iraq. Surely, Obama is ready to debunk that canard. I guess not.
How has Obama allowed Grandpa McSame to remain calm all this time? Where’s the grappling, the basketball elbows? Come on.
Good Obama no problem getting INDY up and even RED line. heheh the whacking stick is “old timey Senate rules”.
just turned it on.. who’s winning?
based on what?
but the not smarter voter won’t see that or won’t care.
“I absolutely understand the difference between tactics & strategy…” good, good, but I am experiencing Kerry again… subtle, dignified…
but people don’t respond to that… “capture and kill Bin Laden”… It sounds like Kerry… I’m not feeling good about this.
McCain.
Obi does not know how to debate this thug.
Yay..THat’s not true. Call him on his lies
Great point from Obama re: timetable funding of troops vs blank check
I noticed that too.
Huge mistake on McCain’s part.
Osama bin Laden and General Petraues have one thing in common???
The Japanese really scrambled McCain’s brains when they held him all those years, didn’t they.
WHERE is OSAMA BIN LADEN?
You’re right, I think. And I’ll bet Michelle may fan that flame…
the trolls.
That’s right – talk over his lying ass.
hey, he’s just being himself.
Is it my imagination, or is the makeup on Obama not very good? He looks grayish to me…
Why are military leaders allowing their names to endorse political campaigns? Or are they?
McCain thinks the Surge is a winner?
Explectation?
Fxck you Sunnunu you aint troop supporter.
Nor is McCain.
Yall goin away.
Red and INDY line is all above even blue line is CNN.
Great that Obama is calling him a liar as well.
McCain just spouts talking points…
Based on the fact that he concedes every point to McCain/
Yes, he does. As a black man, he is doing allhe can. If he was a white man, he could go after him with no probs.
But everyone has their own take on stuff, right?
OBAMA IS NOW WINNING!
Why is Obama letting McCain lie so boldly, so often, so completely, so brazenly? His performance tonight is enough to make Gore2000 seem exciting.
I’m sorry, who said Iraq was the central battleground?
I’m guessing it’s not the guy who’s hiding in the middle of his rebuilding friends the Taliban in Afghanistan and next door in Pakistan, where they’re refusing to touch the Taliban and you and Bush keep giving them weapons systems anyway, Senator McCain.
McCain brings up the contradiction himself between the surge being a success and that it is fragile. If it were such a success, then the gains would not be so fragile.
Well, Gramm says we’re a nation of whiners so it must be whining.
Well thanks for cheering me up, Rev.
i’m waiting for his head to explode, ala “Scanners”.
I disagree but we all see things differently, don’t we?
Fighting in afghanistan is just as bad as Iraq… that’s a canard
we have no right to be there either
The brother’s starting to land some blows.
You two need to talk to average non-blog-reading people. I’m with a couple, including one online, and they think Obama’s filleting McCain like a Benihana chef slices up a tuna.
(As my online buddy just said: “If he *ever* is the angry black man it has to be *after* he takes office.”)
ASK where the hell is OSAMA BIN LADEN
sadly, you didn’t pass out on me, did you?
Congratulations “my friends”, Obama will be POTUS.
TIme to fight for not the blue dogs, but all out for hte Democrats that are “TRUE BLUE”.
Real Change
True Blue
2008
Didn’t we start paying the Sunni’s monthly payments to stop fight us??? That has been why the “SURGE” seemed to work! We paid them off to not kill Americans!
Oh, gosh, ya think?
Great insight! McCain “let us win” is mccain himself in vietnam.
Based on what? Sounds exactly the opposite to me.
When is Obama going to say that the Iraqi’s want us out in 16 mo.? What’s McCain going to do, keep us there against Iraq’s wishes?
The hgrror. The horror.
Obama is toast.
Obama thinks he’s at the U. of Chicago giving a lecture.
exactly. he can’t let that angry black man beating up on an old white man show
yeah. and obama told billo that he does too.
Oooh poppy trade… that’s going after Cindy, that’s personal.
trying to sound intelligent
Obama needs to bring up the fact that St John surrounds himself with lobbyists and corporate fatcats, Gramm, Fiorina, Davis, Black
Um, can anyone say “mujahadeen”?
What I’m seeing is Obama talking to the editorial board of the NYT or some other rag. McQueeg is talking to the stoopids watching the teevee. The ed. board may be smarter and get it but they have very few votes.
He’s doing fine, hitting McCain on his lies, and McCain’s looking like an ass for refusing to provide a single straight answer to any question.
Obama still dipping a bit at the start of his answer – but guess what media anyone that actually listens to 2 sentances even R party goes for Obama. Even on…its not only troops (yea a 2 second dip…but duh).
LOL Yeah, I’m gonna go vote for Frosty Clippaper
Whoever chose McCain’s tie will be fired.
WHAT? McCain “we washed our hands” in the region of Russia. Wanna explain your involvement in Gruzia/Georgia?
I had to leave the room — OB was not doing his job. Is he geting any better?
He sure did. Both a strategic and tactical blunder.
Damnit.
You mean Pakistan, who just shot at our helicopters last week?!
You think Obama doesn’t concede? What is your evidence?
We’re not going to desert the afghan freedom fighters?
You mean the freaking Taliban, Senator McCain? You don’t think we helped them out enough?
obama with all his talk about escalation of the war in afghanistan is making me crazy.
McCain is afraid of Pakistan
Good, good, I need to hear that, or I’m going to kill the rest of this rum…
I think you’ve got the wrong war. Try Vietnamese instead of Japanese next time.
Bush is already fighting in Pakistan to get Osama for McCain before Nov 4. CALL HIM ON IT!
If you have to do things, you have to do things, but you’d better not be honest about it!
Ding ding ding.
Im waiting for some knock out punches…..Oh McNasty sez hell LYE to us as badly as bushies
WTF, Pakistan is fucking SHOOTING at us for what we’re doing there now…
Regular people are seeing that Barack is a smart, cool and in control. McCain looks like a politician, and old.
McCain is for giving Pakistan Tribute
Good for BO for raising the absolutely taboo topic: heroin, drugs, Pakistan, Afghanistan.
And at minute 53 McCain sounds like a schoolmarm.
Hope BO lets him sink onto the petard he just jumped onto.
McCain says you don’t make strikes into Pakistan. Apparently he hasn’t heard that this is what Bush has been doing for the last couple of weeks.
McCain is a liar. As if anyone wondered…
So McCain wants to give nuclear capable F-16s to Nuclear-capabe Pakistan which is likely to become a “radical” Islamic state? Bright…Bring that up, Barack.
His old pen is not mightier than their swords.
i don’t believe mccain is making more sense on pakistan than obama.
the taliban is coming the taliban is coming
…. HA HAH HA…”you don’t say that out loud”…
McCain
OK, so its wink wink – what a dinosaur. Ya’ll “talkin’ down the economy”.
Wow, you hear that in media econ 101 communication stategy class – haha.
It’s Mississippi. I’ll bet you $50 the lighting engineer is a Republican.
McCain is running out of steam.
Well they want more money
McCain says Obama is wrong for “saying out loud” that he’s attack Pakistan?
Gramps – “let’s, above all else, don’t tell anybody anything”.
One can assume this includes the American people?
But the editorial board folk are the ones who will spin this for the majority of Americans who aren’t watching.
Obama is coming across as Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry all rolled into one.
Agreed. Simple, short, catch phrases for the Americun idotry.
I think McC is doing exactly what I thought he would do – he is talking down to Obama. He will regret it.
Maybe Petraeus should be running
Oh, so you just don’t say it out loud that we’re going to bomb in Pakistan? Keep it a secret. Oh, by the way they’re already shooting down our drone planes. Why is that? I wonder…
Exactly.
McCain knows how to work with Pakistan? Then where is Ossama its been years and millions of Dollars.
Obama brings up the song!!
McCain is making faces
I wish McCrazy would spontaneously fucking combust that stupid old demented mother fucker.
Nonsense
interesting question in email: “Where’s your flag pin, McCain?”
BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN!
Marion, Are you sure it wasn’t the Hessians that were holding McCain? It couldn’t have been, because there were no propaganda films for him to make back then.
John, you’re absolutely right.
Goddamn it, STOP THAT SHIT
(sorry for shouting)
What, because he sounds like an adult?
BOMB BOMB BOMB Iran ha ha ha
I wish he wouldn’t pronounce “Pakistan” correctly. Americans hate people who pronounce foreign words correctly.
Owie. Obama mentions “Bomb, Bomb Iran.” Prudence, y’know.
Oooh… “some songs about bombing Iran.” That might have stung McSame.
Bomb bomb bomb Iran
You’re not credible on the be careful what you say.
Here it is….Johnny is soft on the cross-border stuff.
This is where understanding matters.
.
Bah – Patreus.
What a loser. The “position” is called CENTCOM…wink wink. HA HA.
What is General P gonna bring the “surge” to the world? Is that why we can’t have education McCain.
BOMB BOMB BOMBBA IRAN.
- McCain
Of course not you just sing songs about bombing Iran.
Noron said 100 million people would watch tonight.
It’s just awful!
YES BOMB BOMB IRAN
STOP SAYING HE IS RIGHT
ARGH@!#$%^&*(#$r%t^y&*#e$rt^y&*(!!!!!!
Coming from someone who wanted to annhilate North Korea and sang songs about bombing Iran, it’s not credible.
Owwwwwwwch.
Well, I know voters who want to hear him say this.
And his ‘John, that’s not what I said,’ was spot-on.
Obama brings up bomb bomb bomb Iran and extinction for North Korea about McCain’s assertion about being temperate in foreign policy.
There goes St. John. Look out, he’s gonna blow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWCP5K1C0sk
Defending Mushy!
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Exactly. This is NOT what people want in a commander-in-chief. Yet he’s been doing this smug Bush-like smirk all frickin’ evening. This is NOT playing well with the folks at home.
The corpse of Ronald Reagan!
Next McInsane is going to recall the Boor Wars.
sit down kids and let me tell you a story
McCain leaning on the “Senator Obama doesn’t understand” card. He’s the wise, experienced foreign policy hand who doesn’t know the difference between Shia and Sunni, or that there’s no Czechoslovakia anymore…
Oh, you have just made me a VERY happy woman!
What’s yours? I admit he has been weak on some points but he has answered very strong on others. Example..the pakistan issue
Just keep digging at him, Barack. He’s gonna blow.
Oh, for the record we all know they Pack army is already downing Drones and likely shooting at US heli birds.
So BOMB BOMB IRAN…is “business”?
- McCain 2008
Hope springs eternal.
Johnny McMaverick’s Energizer bunny is running down.
I thought Musharraf came to power by a coup? hmmmmm…
Oh, the dead Marine story again. Sick of it. Had a friend killed there.
because we’re using them in attacks on pakistan?
John McCain loves war, and if you don’t believe that, he’s telling you so RIGHT NOW
McCain: Pakistan was a failed state before Musharraf. WTF?
I’m not at all clear how saying you were for every war of your congressional career suggests that you are not a warmonger.
New thread upstairs
McCrazy voted against raygun on Lebanon? traitorous Republican behavior.
McCain defends on “Bomb, Bomb Iran:” Well, back in 1983…c’mon, John, there are voters who weren’t ALIVE in 1983.
It’s the subtle shiv. He has to bait McCain into a freakout without seeming to do so.
I can’t watch any more. Obama is being creamed by MiniBush. He is stiff as a board and compelling as an avocado pit. Gah!
I’m amazed at the people I know paying very close attention this year.
Including people who didn’t vote in 2000, and in 2004.
McCain has a hump? Bone weakness?
Against lebanon, for bosnia, for cosovo, somalia policy is huh?, for Iraq
oh, jesus. the fucking bracelet. guess what? obama has one, too.
It was a 1980 indie hit inspired by the 444-day Hostage Crisis. Chris Mathews rightfully called McCain out for gleefully singing this cover of a Beach Boys’ classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLv4mtwsRos
Obama is NOT doing fine. He’s being presidential at the risk of losing the election. He’s repeating McSame’s one liners, he’s letting McCain frame the issues. He is too deliberate, too slow, too complex in his answers. He needs a few Kennedyesque “touch” football lessons in how to debate such a jerk.
McSame, on the other hand, has done a full Bush with half twist. He set the expectations for his performance so low that Obama acts like he had a bye, and now doesn’t know what to do now that he’s in the second half of a tight game.
McSame’s lies, his claims about his experience, his record or so blatant, he has mysteriously remained so calm (wholly unlike him; sedatives?), Obama can’t sort out how to play him. That’s not gonna win an election.
He’s monologuing. Like the supervillian in The Incredibles.
McCain is morbid about war and death
3820
Just keep digging at him, Barack. He’s gonna blow.
He is not going for that as he is attacking but “smoothing” with bi-partisian.
Good idea to me. Attack and punch but doing go for making him “blow up” thats bull overplaying your hand.
i’m watching this with the Rude Pundit. He thinks that somebody in the audience was prompting McCain to bring up the bracelet.
Johnny McMaverick’s Energizer bunny is running down.
Is there an amphetamine break built into this format?
McCain was in Vietnam?
Why does McFighter get all this time?
Hello, from Lufkin, TX.
Oh, McCain is being maudlin… puke.
There it is… the “politicians lost Vietnam” again
Didn’t they make movies about that?
oh, lord help us. Dueling dead soldiers.
I don’t know that Obama had a choice, but this is incredibly debased.
Dukakis, Gore and Kerry all sounded like adults and how did that resonate with the under informed voter and a corrupt and complicit media?
“I’ve got a bracelet, too.”
brilliant.
”No American soldier ever dies in vain.”
Touché
It’s a strategy.
Which McCain doesn’t think BO understands.
Which makes it all the more delicious ;-))
agreed. He needs to go on the offensive and say things way more concisely.
i’m watching this with the Rude Pundit.
oooh, can he jump in here too?
The Gals both have a bracelet.Excactally the soliders won in Vientnam…the policy lost.
McCain even has low INDY on his Vietnam anwser.
Hey, Lee.
hey oilfieldguy, how’s life treating you?
McCain is just telling stories, no policies, no facts, no leadership. He’s just playing the Vietnam era ReichWing game, “don’t stop us from winning”.
Obama has to learn to parry-riposte better and faster without giving in to McCain’s framing. He’s giving McCain too much stage time, not taking enough for himself.
McLiar is getting mad….
Obama’s Vision w/ the Pointer Sisters’ Funk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVwpMB8QAUU
He’s getting mad. Cool!
Okay, your take is definitely better than my “compelling as an avocado pit.” Booyah!
Good idea Obama. Get serious and kill OBL.
McCain has again INDY below blue line in CNN “fake poll thing”
He says “Hi!”
McCain, who hasn’t made 5% of Senate votes in a year, claims he runs his subcommittees tightly, and Obama is unschooled? Obama, go view the Kennedy debates. Palin’s not the only one who needs tutoring.
Time even. 2 funny
Hey!!
Hope there are lotsa BO voters down there.
Oooh, the “Justice League”!
Likley no Palin question at this point.
Same time +3 for Obama on CIC question.
+/- 3 on “Bailout” not settled so will happen maybe 5 – 10 days from now with debate poll. Could go to a +/5 that could erase debate impact. Obama does have to win that will public…and with me (since that is a pre-req to win with public more often than not barring Bush voting).
Agree with your first point.
But think about it — the more McCain talks, the more he exposes EXACTLY what you just pointed out.
McCain got nuttin BUT anecdotes and ego.
BO has to let that ghastly fact play out, then come in and mop up the little messes at the end of every McCain embarrassment.
Watertiger, how do you rate McCain’s make-up tonight? Kewl catch on your blog about the $6,000.00 facial. I wondered if he got three estimates and linked to you site. Please include me on your blogroll, as I am a blogwhore without makeup.
Obama holding INDY line. On technicality of Iran – how to have New-clear energy power (ALA Tboon Pickins) and not a bomb (close to a bomb).
Before I fled the teevee for fear of barfing on my jammies, I realized the following:
McBush is being immensely patronizing. Pat, pat, pat, Obama. Don’t worry your pretty little head about all these things you don’t understand.
McBush is framing his advanced age as wisdom of experience (or experience of wisdom . . . I forget).
Obama is looking irritated and pissed, but when he speaks, it’s basically pablum.
I’m a solid Obama supporter, but he isn’t making it easy tonight. I want to be a cheerleader in the audience, silently cheering: Give me a P-A-S-S-I-O-N. Some. Just a little. Thrust home, baby!
Obama is so dignified and Cadaverick is not.
Senator McCain ibsolutely right. What iwxs the matter with him? Obama is a moromn.
BO needs to leave a certain amount to the post-debate Fact CHeckers to do their jobs. And they ought to be positively gleeful with some of the stuff McCain is spilling out. Including that first question about biz taxes; McCain was incorrect, BO pulled back McCain’s deception.
That’s all BO really needs to do this time — keep unpeeling the b.s.
bah ah. Obama has the test to talk about the Ahattola.
ha. Telling the truth by Obama actually taking RED, BLUE, and PRUPLE up.
Not sure this is true. “Average viewers” (whatever that means) will take this at face value and won’t dig any deeper. Perception is reality, blah, blah, blah.
“So long, Mom, I’m off to drop the bomb, so don’t wait up for me.” Toodles.
Does McCain look crazy?
¡¡¡Viva Espana!!!!
Obama is losing big time,
Every time McCain uses the phrase “what Sen. Obama doesn’t understand” – Obama needs to turn that around and say “what Sen. McCain doesn’t understand is…”
I disagree.
McCain jumped the shark last week.
People are watching the markets in bafflement; Cafferty and the NYT blogs are having huge feedback about the bailout.
People were sending so many emails the House servers froze up last week.
BO has to look reasonable, informed, sane, and level headed and keep walking backward while McCain makes a fool of himself — and McCain is making a HUGE mistake by refusing to so much as look at Obama.
There’s a month to the election.
This is going to be McCain’s strongest debate; he’s not doing as well as he needed to do.
McCain goes into schoolmarm mode again; no one but his True Believers is going to buy it.
I wanted Obama to look at McCain during that last Kissinger crap and say “Why don’t you look me in the eye when you’re talking?” You know, like you have to do with foreign leaders.
“Obama doesn’t understand”
He should say what my dad used to say to that:
“What I do understand is that you’re an asshole.”
But Jim Lehrer might not like that
Obama has most flaccid penis of any prez candidate I have ever seen.
McCain’s not looking good at all. He’s confirming that he’s a loose cannon and out of touch. Obama hasn’t made any big mistakes, and as a much younger man, that’s a good thing. Tracking polls will trend Obama.
He lost it right there on the 9/11 question! “Safer?!”
I wanted to hear Obama say” John, if you’re so proud of going against your party so often why aren’t you a Democrat?!”
The Black Man still don’t undahstand!