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	<title>Comments on: House Republican Bailout Plan: Insure Houses on Fire</title>
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		<title>By: Novista</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1651356</link>
		<dc:creator>Novista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 02:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;” What happens to the mortgages they wrote?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s already happened: that’s the problem! Three-fourths of all mortgages in the bubble area were securitized. In other words, they were dissected like a reverse-Frankenstein … MBS, CDOs, slice’n&#039;dice — any given mortgage could be in pieces in a number of different ~creative investment vehicles~ !&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As well, there appears to have been little or no due diligence and a lack of paper trail through the securitization chain. It’s entirely possible these mortgages technically don’t exist in law now (IANAL) but one can remember a ways back, foreclosure proceedings in five states were thrown out, as the plantiffs could not show holding of any of the mortgages. I think Deutsche Bank was the first to try this ploy and end up with egg on their face.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jinglemail was definitely the wrong move for the people who already accepted foreclosures, most likely in less than clear legal validity. If I’d been one of those unfortunately, i”d just squat and say “Show me the paper!”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>” What happens to the mortgages they wrote?”</p>
<p>It’s already happened: that’s the problem! Three-fourths of all mortgages in the bubble area were securitized. In other words, they were dissected like a reverse-Frankenstein … MBS, CDOs, slice’n&#8217;dice — any given mortgage could be in pieces in a number of different ~creative investment vehicles~ !</p>
<p>As well, there appears to have been little or no due diligence and a lack of paper trail through the securitization chain. It’s entirely possible these mortgages technically don’t exist in law now (IANAL) but one can remember a ways back, foreclosure proceedings in five states were thrown out, as the plantiffs could not show holding of any of the mortgages. I think Deutsche Bank was the first to try this ploy and end up with egg on their face.</p>
<p>Jinglemail was definitely the wrong move for the people who already accepted foreclosures, most likely in less than clear legal validity. If I’d been one of those unfortunately, i”d just squat and say “Show me the paper!”</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1650927</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mc Cain: We will come home! 100 years just changed for the debate. Waffles for dinner?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mc Cain: We will come home! 100 years just changed for the debate. Waffles for dinner?</p>
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		<title>By: masaccio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1650453</link>
		<dc:creator>masaccio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ian, I appreciate this explanation of the insurance concept. I couldn’t understand how it was supposed to work, and I still don’t, but at least I understand why I didn’t understand. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I talked to a friend about my &lt;a href=&quot;http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/why-the-bankruptcy-change-is-important/#Respond&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; on EW yesterday. He says the bankruptcy proposal is still being pushed by staffers to several senators who might actually count, and I think he might know. I think that would be a substantial improvement. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A staffer I know thinks the lending industry has a veto on that change. My friend thinks the industry has lost its clout.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, I appreciate this explanation of the insurance concept. I couldn’t understand how it was supposed to work, and I still don’t, but at least I understand why I didn’t understand. </p>
<p>I talked to a friend about my <a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/why-the-bankruptcy-change-is-important/#Respond" rel="nofollow">post</a> on EW yesterday. He says the bankruptcy proposal is still being pushed by staffers to several senators who might actually count, and I think he might know. I think that would be a substantial improvement. </p>
<p>A staffer I know thinks the lending industry has a veto on that change. My friend thinks the industry has lost its clout.</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1650373</link>
		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“The agreement calls for Mr. Fishman to earn 2.5 times his base salary of $1 million, or $2.5 million, plus another payment that is 2.5 times his annual bonus. He has earned no bonus in his brief tenure, but the agreement states that if Mr. Fishman is terminated in 2008 or 2009, he should receive 2.5 times 365% of his annual salary, which would add up to $9.12 million.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This $11.62 million, of course, would be in addition to the $7.5 million signing bonus he was awarded when he joined WaMu earlier this month. Derek Aney, a WaMu spokesman, was not immediately available to discuss Mr. Fishman’s new role in the merged company or whether Mr. Fishman will be eligible to retain all of these payouts.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The agreement calls for Mr. Fishman to earn 2.5 times his base salary of $1 million, or $2.5 million, plus another payment that is 2.5 times his annual bonus. He has earned no bonus in his brief tenure, but the agreement states that if Mr. Fishman is terminated in 2008 or 2009, he should receive 2.5 times 365% of his annual salary, which would add up to $9.12 million.</p>
<p>This $11.62 million, of course, would be in addition to the $7.5 million signing bonus he was awarded when he joined WaMu earlier this month. Derek Aney, a WaMu spokesman, was not immediately available to discuss Mr. Fishman’s new role in the merged company or whether Mr. Fishman will be eligible to retain all of these payouts.”</p>
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		<title>By: MayDaze</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1650356</link>
		<dc:creator>MayDaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/fdl-liveblogs-the-debate-mccain-didnt-want-you-to-see/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Liveblog thread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/fdl-liveblogs-the-debate-mccain-didnt-want-you-to-see/" rel="nofollow">Liveblog thread</a></p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1650354</link>
		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“After just 18 days on the job, CEO could exit WaMu with $11.6 million&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    With J.P. Morgan’s takeover of Washington Mutual, it’s unclear what role Alan Fishman—who was hired only 18 days ago as WaMu’s new CEO—will play in the combined company. But if Mr. Fishman leaves the thrift, it’s pretty clear that he would be well-compensated for his short stint on the job.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“After just 18 days on the job, CEO could exit WaMu with $11.6 million</p>
<p>    With J.P. Morgan’s takeover of Washington Mutual, it’s unclear what role Alan Fishman—who was hired only 18 days ago as WaMu’s new CEO—will play in the combined company. But if Mr. Fishman leaves the thrift, it’s pretty clear that he would be well-compensated for his short stint on the job.”</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1650340</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have ambulance on call&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have ambulance on call</p>
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		<title>By: MayDaze</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1650330</link>
		<dc:creator>MayDaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, shit, we’ll be plastered!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, shit, we’ll be plastered!</p>
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		<title>By: MayDaze</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1650325</link>
		<dc:creator>MayDaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You’re on!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re on!</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/house-republican-bailout-plan-insure-houses-on-fire/#comment-1650324</link>
		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“In a presentation on its WaMu acquisition, J.P. Morgan forecast a 58% peak-to-trough slump in California home prices if the U.S. enters a severe recession. In Florida, house prices could fall 64% in such a scenario, while nationwide prices could drop 37%, the bank said.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“In a presentation on its WaMu acquisition, J.P. Morgan forecast a 58% peak-to-trough slump in California home prices if the U.S. enters a severe recession. In Florida, house prices could fall 64% in such a scenario, while nationwide prices could drop 37%, the bank said.”</p>
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