After the 2004 debates in which Kerry earned a 3-0 sweep against Bush and still lost the election, I’m reluctant to put too much stock in the Obama-McSame series.
Still, I can’t resist watching along with my FDL homeboy Eli (who will also be liveblogging tonight) — especially in light of McPalin’s epic fail this week.
McSame’s bizarre behavior coupled with Palin’s monumental media meltdowns have made this a must-win for the Crazy Old Man Maverick. Given the fact that he knows he’s down, you kind of get the feeling he’ll go after Obama the same way he went after Willard.
Watertiger suggested that we drink every time McSame says, "my friends" — but I strongly advise against it.
It’s on. Join us in comments for your thoughts.
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Anybody taking odds on a McCain meltdown?
Will he melt like the Wicked Witch?
Watch it. Palin doesn’t like witches.
This should be fun
Tweety just brought up the “Captain Queeg factor.” I like it.
What a world, what a world…
11:40 into the debate, he’s gonna call Obama “boy.”
I say it’s 1.5:1.
don’t forget to take shots when mcsame says “my friends” and Barry says “change” tonight.
Here we go.
GO OBAMA!!!
Will Jim Leher ask stupid, irrelevant questions?
Jim Lehrer just said his name, “Jim Lehrahhh.” I’ve been saying his name wrong for years apparently.
yes.
next question?
That’s certain death!
John McCain in HD…this could be scary
spontaneous combustion
Direct exchanges between the candidates permitted. I hope Obama knows what buttons to push…
And they come out to huge applause.
Smiles all around.
Yes!
does he have a box on his back?
hahahahahahah
Raven said so
Oh, jeez… I’ll be shitfaced in 5 minutes!
Ooo, Crouching Audience, Hidden Questions.
let’s roll…
HI gang. At my house we’re considering investing in alcohol stocks given the likely shot consumption.
“NO cheers no applause no noise of any kind” folks
Gentlemen, draw your weapons.
First question: Ike quote on security.
“Where do you stand on the financial recovery plan?”
cant see
obama runs out to the middle of the ring like a boxer
I didn’t care for that, got to tell you
McCain: In what respect, Jim?
Bailout! GO!!!
And Obama elects to receive…
Here’s the Lehrer that should be moderating the debate. Tom Leher
No, Seriously.
Hey HI!
DRINK!
house….sip one
hoping hoping
WTF is the graph on the bottom of the CNN screen? Audience frickin’ EKG?
Obama mostly pausing instead of umming, so I think that’s a good thing. It seems like a conscious effort, though.
tax payer sip 2,3
He’s too mavericky for that, isn’t he?
Obama looks okay, but points off for using the “Wall St./Main Street” cliche.
My comment feed at http://twitter.com/PachacutecFDL
Dear Barack, when they ask you what time it is, please just tell Lehrer the time, don’t explain how to build a cesium clock.
Oversight. Check.
Return on investment. Check.
No CEO bank account. Check.
Help the homeowner. Check.
thats good
Oversight, equity, no parachutes, help homeowners. Good.
OK now that the Debate has started take the time to DIGG This Post!!
I’m thinking Chivas.
lolololol
Ouch — blames McCain for meltdown.
708
Yay, let’s get down to the ideology of Republicans and trickle-down economics.
he has one in his cheek.
so much for the foreign policy, as the sole focus thank goodness
NO HE DIDN’T!!!! USING TED KENNEDY!!! YOU PRICK!
John he is home
Kennedy is out of the hospital. Minor seizure, wanted to get home to watch the debates.
Mc grabs Kennedy! No fair! FOUL!!!
McGramps provides a mortality reminder.
Thanks, Johnny….
McCane’s feeling better!
Fuck. Obama should have brought up Teddy Kennedy.
First difference — McSame is talking to Lehrer–Obama was talking to the cameras.
/agrees…I didn’t care for the speach affect of his response to the question
he (McCain) is not going to answer the question, is he?
John McCain is the living embodiment of bipartisanship. See how much he loves Teddy Kennedy.
OH, fuck him. Using Ted Kennedy’s problem.
McCain nothing feeling good but feeling better.
my comment feed is right here
aaaaaaaaaa! link??????
Hi nice to be here
How desperate is McCain to bring up Kennedy?
Seriously, that graph thing is straight outta Max Headroom.
dear senator obama:
oversight is not accountability. we need accountability.
Peppermint tie.
We haven’t faced a crisis like this since the Keating Five…
paging Senator McCain: Senator Kennedy is already home from the hospital.
McLiar says he feeling better about things….sure doesn’t look any better.
He couldn’t resist making a crack. It begins now.
They were negotiating till you got there dickhead.
Horrible, horrible tie choice for McCain. It’s strobing on our teevee, and totally distracting. Holy crap, who picked that out for him?!?
We know who loves Ted Kennedy and who hates him.
mccain looks calm and controlled, I did not expect this kind of composure
Wait, McCain is talking about someone’s transparent package?
We finally see Republicans and Democrats sitting down and solving a problem, and then I fly in and blow the whole thing up.
How sweet McCain mentioned the Lion of the Senate.
Apparently, he doesn’t know Ted is home now watching his evil ass.
House Republicans would be part of the solution?
Shit can’t drink any booze (:>(( Is OK to swig water WT??
McCain helped blow up the deal and that talks about bipartisanship. Still sticking up for the loony tunes House Republicans.
Nope. He has not answered the question
McCain’s wrong on the facts and out of date. Kennedy’s out of hospital, on his way home.
Someone tell John Ted’s in better shape than he is tonight.
Foreign oil!?!? WTF does that have to do with the recovery plan?
End of the beginning….what does that mean?
McCain is not going to back any deal
Yikes! Strobing electric McCane tie!!!
I thought the bailout wasn’t supposed to be a Christmas tree bill… so why is McCain wearing a candy cane?
He does. Cindy must have given him some good drugs and he must have taken a long nap.
oooh, talk to each other!
good on you, Lehrer.
”House Republicans weren’t a part of it” — whaa, because Bush didn’t include them?
Yeah, that tie is so hideous his chins are quivering.
“I met with my Republicans.”
adds a dash of fear for good measure…..
No, wait: McCandyCane.
strobing the computer feed as well christy
Cesium Clock, Barack. KISS.
wait
Snark!
Let’s keep the focus there.
McCain’s doing that throat clearing thing. I’ll try to keep a phlegm count.
I told ya he was going to be medicated.
Not a damn thing. He didn’t answer the question really. Just threw some talking points out there and hoped he had faked Lehrer out
dear senator mccain:
aren’t you ashamed about what your party has done?
“How did we get into this situation in the first place?” Two words — Ronald. Reagan.
I will personally donate $500 bucks to the Obama campaign tonight if he uses the words “Keating 5″.
Oh- oh, lax regulation!
Ya know, I can’t type and listen at the same time.
McCain talks about creating jobs. Clinton created nearly 23 million. Bush and the Republicans have created 5 million and they’re losing ground on those.
Christy, Don’t you have high def? Can you tell us when McCain’s make-up starts dripping, please?
Shredded regulations
Johnny hopes he’s going to vote for the plan.
McSame: I also warned about greed!
Jane!
A lot of us saw this trainwreck coming – and got on a lobbyist’s yacht regardless.
Here we go with the war analogies
so far, McGramps is mailin’ it in…..
McCains voice is tight has he been crying?
does he have his index cards
ha — and apparently Rudy Ghouliani was on the plane with McCain on the way to the debate. Rudy is “representing” now, and aiming to break into the bailout goody package for his clients.
If ya saw the train wreck why didn’t you stop it?
WW2? Oh christ, the military ….
I’m with you.
aHAHAHAHAHA
oooooohhhhhh!
McCain just touched the third rail…
.
LOL!
Okay, me, too!
McSame: We need to hold people accountable for failures, except Bush, who I helped re-elect, and everyone who works for my campaign.
McCain: I warned about Fannie Mae but I still love their chocolates.
What a great idea. $500 for saying “Keating 5″.
Now McCain is comparing himself to Eisenhower.
Saying “I’ll fire” is not “calling for the resignation of.”
What Is MC talking about?
Neither will answer the question because the people don’t want the bailout and the voters know it’s NOT for them but wall street.
McCain is an extreme prevaricator.
This is not good. Captain Queeg is story telling. People like story telling.
What people are going to be held accountable?
I think it’s the meds.
McCain’s gettin’ tangled up.
Barry Barry Barry: say “KEATING FIVE”. SAY IT.
for The Lion in the Senate
oh puleazzzzzzzzzzzzze yes
McCancel warned about …..?
The Eisenhower letters were a real accountability moment by a real leader.
McCain: Greed is rewarded, corruption is rewarded… ah, Keating 5 anyone?
Let the “accounting” begin, John. You first.
FACT CHECK: Said he’d fire SEC chair, didn’t call for his resignation.
natch!
I’d like to see a link before I believe that.
Main street – DRINK!
1. What on earth did McCain just say?
2) How high are his heels?
3) If McCain saw this “trainwreck” coming, why did he make Gramm, who deregulated us into it his chief economic advisor?
4) No he did not call for the resignation of the SEC head. He said he would fire him. Which he’s such an expert on this he doesn’t realize he can’t do.
neither of them are talking about root causes. obama says it’s foreclosures (foreclosures are a symptom – duh). and i have no idea what mccain is trying to say.
OK, Barry really needs to knock of the Wall St/Main St. thing.
Obi fumbles he needs to NAIL the shit on McCain and NEVER say he agrees with ANYTHING that McCain said.
I like this “would you care to retort, sir?” format.
after 26 years rewarding it Mc same wants to do something about it the greed a lack of accountablity
Propanolol can do wonders.
Fundamentally disagree,lol.
please, a link?
Obama turns accountability right back at him. Good work so far!
both are using that term so if I were drinking I’d be on my butt already
Enough of Mc$ame’s Botox has worn off that he can waggle his eyebrows again. I REALLY wish he wouldn’t…
KEATING FIVE
Say it!
Even if they do agree? That doesn’t make sense to me
Party hearty!!
is it me or is McCain completely incoherent?
McSame: THE AMERICAN WORKER RULEZ!!!! OPEN THREAD!
No one on that stage understands what happened. Greed was in there… but the banking system is completely broken, McCain is saying the right things on this.
Why is he bringing up the american worker? What does that have to do with ?
McCain believes in the American worker…too bad the American worker didn’t cause the current crisis.
Yeah yeah greatest worker, fundamental belief, yada uada
McCain is playing his strongest hand.. and people love that shit.
Oh, no it’s the American Worker.
A “morning in America” statement from Johnny Seven Tables….
Shorter McCain: Everything is fine except for the disaster part.
He’s chewing through his talking points pretty rapidly.
whew! got it. damn installing a new hard drive = forget what needs to be installed
McSame wasted his resignation letter story early. That was supposed to be part of his surge answer. Maybe he’ll forget and use it again.
Don’t say it… make a different point. LEAD not follow.
oh that is rich,spending is out of control
McEarmarks!
Tee, hee spending, waht about Iraq?
First we need to get spending under control… by spending $700,000,000,000 to bail out rich guys.
USG increase is BUSH BUSH BUSH you MORON!!!
definitely not you. brit hubby just looked over and said, ‘what?’
McCain: Spending out of control. Government made the Republicans spend more money. Who knew?
Please, Obama. Just say that it was McCain’s party that created this problem.
Get spending under control are you going to end he war if not then your talking out your
Reagan’s optimism and clarity changed the trajectory…
Gateway drugs = earmarks
Spending is out of control! Give $700 billion to rich people!
“Spending is completely out of control.” NO SHIT, JOHN, REALLY???? Do ya think the fracking IRAQ WAR might have SOMETHING to do with that? MAYBE???
leave the bears alone
Why doesn’t McCain just get Grover Norquist up there to fill in for him
DNA joke bombed.
He’s doin’ comedy now.
McCain is a complete hypoctrit – call him on it.
nitpicking
ah, get spendind under control, he is now blaming the republicans for growing government, I hope obama jumps on mccains admition
greed is always going to be there. the system and regulations need to be designed for that.
omfg dna of bears
Obama is bout to nail him on Iraq!
Did McCain just allege that Montanans slept with bears?
seals in Alaska okay, bears in Montana no? Awwww
come on Barack – talk about Palin’s earmarks…..
McCain ramps up the angry old Republican schtick.
Earmarks are petty ante. McCain has no priorities.
McCain says spending is out of control, but he doesn’t mention $12 billion a month to the war. And Kennedy is home now watching the debate, McCain should have checked for the latest news.
McCain will veto every spending bill that comes across his desk. So the government will spend $0 during his administration?
DICK
ear marks…drink up pups
McCain is babbling.
,mccain goes to his old joke about studying mating rites
Demagogue. It works. He totally identifies with all the unhappy citizens who want to blame someone even while he runs against his own party and is just a guilty as the rest who take money from fat cat lobbyists.
Obama must stop saying that McCain is right.
the bear DNA thing is part of his primary stump speech.
I’m amazed. He really is trying to make this all about earmarks. His running mate had the highest individual earmark request in history.
OBAMA should not AGREE………….dang
Obi agreeing with McCain again.
McCain: Obama asked for 932 million in earmarks.
whoa! mccain is calling for imf style shock therapy.
veto every single spending bill?
.
earmarks get off my lawn
McCain’s belief in the American worker is so great he keeps voting against the minium wage but more tax cuts for the rich!
Obama counters earmarks with $300 billion in tax cuts for the rich.
What happened to speaking to each other?
Maybe, although he follows with a big but
Right you are.
McCain seems a bit…tense?
I wish.
Obi needs to attack attack attack.
Could McCain blink a little more?
The war?
good. Linking McCain with Bush.
OBI needs to kick his ass…keating 5
Possibly at the end of each “set question” and responses. We’ll see.
Sign of nervousness.
every time they show both mccain and obama, mccain looks taller, why the HELL is THAT?
He is beating on the ear marks thing. What about Palin?
Morse code eyeblinking. (ht/t Bill Maher)
Now would be a good time to raise the Keating 5 and watch McCain’s head explode.
keating five, keating five, keating five, please
It corrupts people such as his campaign manager and his own ass.
referee – gentlemen, we’re here to fight, not dance. Let’s get it on!”
McQueeg is giving a Sarah Palin answer!!!
Obama should talk about that.
Now that McCain is making this debate all about earmarks, ask McCain what he thinks about Sarah’s.
obama echos the republican mantra that tax cuts are the way out of our economic difficulties.
Federal indictments and charges… hmmmmm, how many republicans?
McCain: New spendings?
KICK HIS OLD ASS Obi
The thread is over 200 and only 3 Diggs! Come on pups and Digg this post!
And who the hell has been controlling that exorbitant spending those last 5 years, JMcC?
McSame opens the door – federal indictments!
Goddamn it! Talk about who’s responsible for this mess.
The Sheriff – keatingville!
let’s be clear. Drink.
He can blink all he wants as long as he doesn’t produce that extremely creepy smile and giggle…
Oh no he didn’t say Miss Congeniality.
No, dear, you didn’t. Your running mate did. The one with the greatest per capita earmarks.
or lying
“I don’t know where John is getting his figures?” hehe
Nice interrupt! Cut in when McCain lies.
one vote: best comment
They gave him a BIG box to stand on.
keating 5 keating 5 keating 5
you can say it senator! do it!
I am sorry, mccain is doing very well here, he sounds sincere in his claims, obama is only now calling him on the lies
Maybe, although he follows with a big but…
No Palin references, now……
Exploding head would be very nice.
Obama: eliminating earmarks alone won’t help the middle class.
McCain is shifting around..
McCain is afraid to make eye contact
He never answers the question , he just attacks Obama
65 % pay NO TAXES AT ALL
I’m gonna keep my five hundred bucks, I have a sinking feeling.
I can’t believe McCain is getting away with the “reformer” mantle.
35% with MASSIVE deductions
Ireland is the size of south dakota
Let’s go to Bermuda. McCain promised to not tax those businesses at all!
I love that Lehrer keeps asking McCain to talk to Obama directly.
Cuz McCain’s face is freakin’ Lehrer out.
disagree, he is rambling
Wow, McSame is really obsessed with earmarks.
His campaign is run by lobbyists, he wants to tax your healthcare benefits.
Come on, hit him!
Drink!
McCain defends cutting corporate taxes; fails to counter Obama’s statements about personal income taxes.
my friends!
my friends – drink
Yup.
Less tax on those corps may help Cindy, ya’think
my friends– drink
I agree
I am not your friend
I HATE when a politician says, “I think that is a mistake”, they should learn how to be authoritice when running for president
“that is a mistake”, no “I think”s aloud when running for president
I wish someone would talk about how part of the reason there are earmarks are because that’s about th eonly way infrastructure projects get done these day…and would make more sense to have a real systematic infrastructure program but we haven’t done it that way for a long time
McCain is doing a good job (unfortunately).
John, you have to frickin’ SHOW UP TO THE SENATE if you want license to criticize it.
Obi is already on the ropes and McCain is running with his maverick reformer lies.
yep.
my friends
goodie, I get to take a shot
$5000 health care tax credit… someone needs to shoot that one down
it’s kinda funny how they can’t seem to talk to each other
ok Obama, no more nice guy hit em
Go out and purchase you own healthcare with a tax cut. HA!
He’s never paid a health insurance premium has he? $380/mo in MA.
he wants to give you a $5000 tax credit to buy $12,000 worth of insurance, but he’ll tax any employer-sponsored health care you have.
So he’s going to RAISE taxes on people who work for a living.
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John Ireland has Healthcare don’t you have google?
Is McCain visibly shrinking?
McCain now talking about his bogus healthcare plan. Now McCain people might be interested in O. definition of rich.
This from a guy whose wife is worth $100 million minimum.
Oh, for the love of Pete. You know how we can lower our business taxes, Senator? How about we stop paying companies to offshore jobs?
Oh, wait, I forgot. Senator Gramm and Ms. Fiorina feel really strongly about offshoring jobs. Whiny americans don’t have a right to their jobs.
it’s revolting
what are you, HIGH? He’s rambling like an old fart. Watch this, he’s gonna blow.
all this talk about pork barrel budgets and earmarks… is anyone going to mention the military spending/
Obama is bringing that up…
$5000 tax credit to pay $12000 for ins. Say it, Barry.
He needs to call McCain a liar
If you turn off the sound, McCain is getting clobbered.
Loophole honesty.
Preview is my friend sorry
Why not? He went for the Winston quote right off the bat. He can probably quote quite a few other WWII luminaries before we’re done (or drunk) tonight…
Sarcasm
Oh he did it!
Obama takes on the market model!
Go Barry Go!
obama talks about the 5000 dollar tax cut, points out mccain wants to tax health insurance
good for him
He keeps going back to earmarks
Here’s a question….will the pundocracy give O’ credit for actually answering questions specifically?
.
Obama takes a while to pick up steam.
COME……….ON OBAMA KEATING 5
McCain is sounding authoritative
Obama’s getting sassy! Gonna piss off the old man!
Oh man, he almost had it on taxing your healthcare benefits.
He needs to do something. He’s about as weak as any debater I’ve ever seen.
McGramps pullin’ a Bush – telling the moderator to fuck off – ‘I’ve got something to say’.
You can’t fight against ANYTHING if you don’y SHOW UP for the Senate, Mc!!
Sounds like McCain has accomplished a lot in the Senate for somebody who never shows up for work.
Is McCain babbling?
no.
This has been another episode of . . . .
yeah if McSame mentions corruption again it’ll give him a great opening
CREEPY SMILE!
I have to drink.
“That is not true John” NONONO say, “You’re lying John”
KEATING 5…….FIVE
Oh, for crying out loud. Is Lehrer actually there to do something? McCain is trampling all over the rules, and he won’t shut up.
I don’t think obama debates well at all, mccain is being allowed to toss obama around and sounds sincere…I don’t think I can watch this too much longer, I thought obama would pound mccain
he is, it’s sad
Now! We’re Talking!
OK, if you say so
I smell the fuse burning in John’s ASS!
CREEEEEEEEEPY SMILE!!!
Watch McCane’s left eye.
McCain’s maniacal laugh is just freakin’ creepy!
Obi is not doing well here.
what the f*ck is he smiling and laughing about?!Obama is going to warm up and then lay into him….
26 minutes on the first question. It’s a free-for-all.
McCain is smirking…not good. He can’t come pff too angry or too aggressive or he gets the whole ‘angry black man’ thing
No
This format is a perfect one for Obama to get McQueeg to blow. Will he take advantage of it?
Probably in my dreams.
Yep. He may start sundowning…
Damn Obama ZINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGERRRRRRRS now
Say it: we are going to have to give up THE WAR IN IRAQ
relax the debate just started
ah, obama finally got something in, he said mccain was only oposed to the energy bill because it stripped oil companies of tax breaks
FINALLY something that hit hard
I think they changed John’s meds. More Xanax, probably.
He needs to get under McCain’s skin.
And he needs to score on some catch phrases. The American idiot-ry love that shyte.
McCain can only talk about earmarks…very odd
McCain must be a terrible poker player
yeah, I guess he spent too much time at Harvard Law Review and not enuf at Debate club
Obama has stopped looking at the camera. Now talking to Lehrer.
I’ve got $10 riding on it.
sadly, yes
what led you to believe that? McQueeg clobbered the other rethugs in the primaries. Obama sucked in the dem primary debates.
He approaches it like a professor. The american people watching this don’t want a lesson. They want a pep talk and a narrative.
JMO. YMMV.
What ever happened to speaking truth? Oh, I forgot, this is the corporate America.
ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNGERS …please
Just mention Keating Five. I think when it presents itself (I hope), he will drop that in there
I hope Obama really means it when he says broadband to rural areas!
I’m normally hard on Obama during debates but he seems energized and can address the issues. John can only do ear marks and spending.
Keys in hand.
Jingle.
Jingle.
That’s worrisome.
(I think O’ has to go emotional – folks are upset and worried – he’s gotta talk to them, not to Lehrer or ‘John’)
.
Wow, quel surprise.
cut spending.
McCain takes each opportunity to toss in repug talking points
Whoopsy, there goes the midwest
“Most liberal voting record in the U.S. Senate?” Yeah, tell me another one.
I thought John Kerry had the most liberal voting record, or was that Al Gore? Oh it’s whoever Republicans are running against.
Obama is trapped by his mantra of “can’t we all just get along.” When McCain begins to rip out Obama’s heart through lies and innuendo he might get the idea that a Republican is not someone you can just get along with.
Q: What would you cut, Senator McCain?
A: Senator Obama is a librul!!!
LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!!!! Using the “most liberal voting record” crap.
He likes craps.
Obama’s laughing at him.
“Sarah Obama”
Ethanol McCain just lost Iowa, Illinois the corn belt
Broadband into rural communities — yes, Obama. Go.
“most liberal voting record” – but that’s a good thing, McSame!
My friends, we need more screwing in this country. Don’t complain about it now. We need you to give up your social security and nevermind.
Obama laughs at “most liberal Senator” line; McCain rattled.
jesus christ, Barack, you gonna keep letting this lying old fuck keep lying and calling you names?
John looks really really made-up facially.
I hope it’s not your last $10.
Why doesn’t Obama point out that McCain has been in the Senate for 26 years and is part of teh frickin’ problem.
Hmm can’t always speak the truth you know, taking it to the man
holy cow, mccain actually called obama’s voting record the most liberal in the senate
obama better do something about that
And we’re moving it upstairs…
Republicans are out of control
Why doesn’t Obama say McCain has missed 412 votes?
defense spending is vital…. or is defense? But we have too much defense already.
The peppermint tie is making me ill.
A $5000 tax credit for health care, plus taxing employers for the plans they offer? And no guarantee of coverage for per existing conditions? McCain’s health care plan is insane.
Why does the moderator let that crazy fucker run on with stupid bullshit?
Thread #2 upstairs.
COST plus contracts Rethuglian instituted Oh and they all have not been bid on.
federal prison Keating Five
Boeing? their goes Seattle does McCain got a list of states he is trying to lose?
when McCain started talking about the “most liberal voting record,” my midwestern husband, who does _not_ talk back to the TV, said “who cares? Answer the question”
If you know how to cut defense spending, why aren’t you doing it?
McCain: We have to cut spending.
A Republican saying this is like an axe murderer saying stop me before I kill again.
McCain is trying to play the maverick card. If he was so damn good, how come spending exploded?
Hmm waiting for that myself
I’m glad I’m watching this because I would think that Obama is tanking. He isn’t at all. He’s so smart.
McC brought up the Boeing contract…nail him Barack.
Iowa is already lost to McSame
I don’t think even that will do it.
call him out on the boeing shenannigans! he supported the DOD contract with airbus, wasn’t it? in any case a foreign entity…
Will Lehrer mention the last financial fiasco orchestrated by the Republicans? Of course not. That would be poor taste for a corporate media celebrity hack to bring up.
Okay, I’m tired of his saying John is right
Lobbyists!
Defeatist.
hee
Woops. Not being so liberal. Just opposing Bush. Which McCain doesn’t do.
Like, ever.
Dems are policy wonks. Republicans are power politicians who play the confidence game. Obama, shorter is better. Concise. Punchy. Answer the question, What’s wrong with Republican government in the last 8 years, John’s republican government.
Botox.
New thread upstairs!
Obama – hitting on the federal subsidies to private insurers to compete with medicare. good point.
Boy that Jim is wantin’ ‘em to “bring it on.”
I don’t know how the story got out that mccain was doing badly in the mock debates, we might have been gamed
He must beware the angry black man label.
McCain shoots from the hip
good line! hatchet vs scalpel
Spending freeze=Hail Mary
Yup.
Yay! Cut spending in Iraq!
McCain is pushing a lot of necessary buttons–no bid contracts, military spending. Where is Obama?
obama – $10 billion every month in Iraq! making all the good points.
Why do you hate the troops, John?
So how do you build 45 nuclear power plants when you have frozen spending?
Obi tell how you can grow the economy without talking about tax cuts. Let’s hear it?
Good Barack, get back to values.
“Rule” the Country? Lehrer obviously buys into the Unitary Executive theory!
Horse shit! McCain just can’t tell the truth can he?
Republicans always INCREASE spending. Look at the historical record
Channel David Letterman, Obama. GET MAD….
OH MY GAWD
obama actually allowed mccain to get away with saying he voted AGAINST the president on torture
and now mccain gets into his strength making believe the surge was a success
Except McCain has it exactly backwards: the Sunni Awakening preceded the Surge by months…
Mc Cain: We will come home! 100 years just changed for the debate. Waffles for dinner?
Awakening: September 06; Surge January ‘07….
Osama and Petraeus have something in common? Can you imagine Obama getting away with saying that?
Nobody said they would attack Pakistan. What an asshole.
Im seeign that McCain is looking tired.. and Obama looks thoughtful and down to earth. let’s not hand it over to mccain just yet :)
Obama’s holding his own, but really, he should be doing better.
De-lurking from across the Pacific.
Folks, I’m in a fury, but I have to say McCain has “won” this debate.
Obama has to show some fire, even anger about the aspersions that McCain has made during this debate.
The MSM reaction is going to be that McCain walked all over Obama.
I do admire Obama for his coolness (No Drama Obama), but god-dammit, he has got to hit back when McCain basically a traitor.
I can’t even type correctly — when McCain basically calls Obama a traitor to his own country.
they’re so very different… Obama coulda been more aggressive…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZsLva3C4pU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVwpMB8QAUU
I don’t think Obama should let McCain MAKE him mad; I think he should make McCain so mad he loses it.