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		<title>By: hazmaq</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649430</link>
		<dc:creator>hazmaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I ask all the intelligent minds here to ponder this -WTF is really going on in Congress??  With jackoffs like Hoyer and Reid in particular.  What’s with their kissing the Rights ass all of a sudden - letting just a handful of hard core right wingers in the house stall everything when there was a clear majority ready to roll.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hoyer  almost jumped on Frank when Frank suggested it was just a few in the house bogging things down.  It’s almost as if Hoyer and Reid were deliberately stalling things so so that now CNN is reporting the “trouble is between Democrats and house Republicans.  What!?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How did our dumb-ass Democratic leaders allow George Bush’s plan to appear to be the Democrats favored plan, with McCain jumping in to “stop the Democrats from working with George W. Bush”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I’ve felt all along, I think the same !@#$%# Democratic hardliners are at it again, making Bush policies pushed by Democrats appear ‘bi-partisan’, just like they did for the Iraq war and the Patriot Acts.  While I do believe there is a serious credit crisis - the secret details are such that we’d vote out those same Congressional Democrats - too, if we knew the truth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And they’re going to screw over us, again, and Obama to get their way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ask all the intelligent minds here to ponder this -WTF is really going on in Congress??  With jackoffs like Hoyer and Reid in particular.  What’s with their kissing the Rights ass all of a sudden &#8211; letting just a handful of hard core right wingers in the house stall everything when there was a clear majority ready to roll.</p>
<p>Hoyer  almost jumped on Frank when Frank suggested it was just a few in the house bogging things down.  It’s almost as if Hoyer and Reid were deliberately stalling things so so that now CNN is reporting the “trouble is between Democrats and house Republicans.  What!?</p>
<p>How did our dumb-ass Democratic leaders allow George Bush’s plan to appear to be the Democrats favored plan, with McCain jumping in to “stop the Democrats from working with George W. Bush”.</p>
<p>As I’ve felt all along, I think the same !@#$%# Democratic hardliners are at it again, making Bush policies pushed by Democrats appear ‘bi-partisan’, just like they did for the Iraq war and the Patriot Acts.  While I do believe there is a serious credit crisis &#8211; the secret details are such that we’d vote out those same Congressional Democrats &#8211; too, if we knew the truth.</p>
<p>And they’re going to screw over us, again, and Obama to get their way.</p>
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		<title>By: danfromny</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649351</link>
		<dc:creator>danfromny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Damn, Dave, tell us how you really feel.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, Dave, tell us how you really feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649323</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Namaste&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/newsflash-sebastian-mallaby-the-economic-village-is-burning/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christy’s upstairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Newsflash, Sebastian Mallaby: The Economic Village Is Burning&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Namaste</p>
<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/newsflash-sebastian-mallaby-the-economic-village-is-burning/" rel="nofollow">Christy’s upstairs</a><br />
Newsflash, Sebastian Mallaby: The Economic Village Is Burning</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649322</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Off to swim in the great capitalist (bwahahahahahahahha) cesspool.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Namaste&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off to swim in the great capitalist (bwahahahahahahahha) cesspool.</p>
<p>Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649321</link>
		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So is McCain trying to pull a “Gang of Fourteen” and mediate an outcome like he says he did with the avoidance of the use of the nuclear option?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Gang of 14 was a term coined to describe the bipartisan group of Senators in the 109th United States Congress who successfully negotiated a compromise in the spring of 2005 to avoid the deployment of the so-called nuclear option (or constitutional option) over an organized use of the filibuster by Senate Democrats. The nickname is a pun on the so-called Gang of Four who ruled China after the death of Chairman Mao.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Republicans&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    * John McCain of Arizona&lt;br /&gt;
    * Lindsey Graham of South Carolina&lt;br /&gt;
    * John Warner of Virginia&lt;br /&gt;
    * Olympia Snowe of Maine&lt;br /&gt;
    * Susan Collins of Maine&lt;br /&gt;
    * Mike DeWine of Ohio (lost re-election in 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
    * Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island (lost re-election in 2006)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Democrats&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    * Joe Lieberman of Connecticut (defeated in the Democratic primary of   his state in 2006 but re-elected in the general election as an Independent)&lt;br /&gt;
    * Robert Byrd of West Virginia&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ben Nelson of Nebraska&lt;br /&gt;
    * Mary Landrieu of Louisiana&lt;br /&gt;
    * Daniel Inouye of Hawaii&lt;br /&gt;
    * Mark Pryor of Arkansas&lt;br /&gt;
    * Ken Salazar of Colorado
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A divide and conquer? Then swoop in the “hero”?  Sounds like a sick, manipulative hero complex to me…But it has been successful in the past.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many fell for it at the time…Lots of us did…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama beware…media IS fickle…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is McCain trying to pull a “Gang of Fourteen” and mediate an outcome like he says he did with the avoidance of the use of the nuclear option?</p>
<blockquote><p>The Gang of 14 was a term coined to describe the bipartisan group of Senators in the 109th United States Congress who successfully negotiated a compromise in the spring of 2005 to avoid the deployment of the so-called nuclear option (or constitutional option) over an organized use of the filibuster by Senate Democrats. The nickname is a pun on the so-called Gang of Four who ruled China after the death of Chairman Mao.</p>
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<blockquote><p>Republicans</p>
<p>    * John McCain of Arizona<br />
    * Lindsey Graham of South Carolina<br />
    * John Warner of Virginia<br />
    * Olympia Snowe of Maine<br />
    * Susan Collins of Maine<br />
    * Mike DeWine of Ohio (lost re-election in 2006)<br />
    * Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island (lost re-election in 2006)</p>
<p>Democrats</p>
<p>    * Joe Lieberman of Connecticut (defeated in the Democratic primary of   his state in 2006 but re-elected in the general election as an Independent)<br />
    * Robert Byrd of West Virginia<br />
    * Ben Nelson of Nebraska<br />
    * Mary Landrieu of Louisiana<br />
    * Daniel Inouye of Hawaii<br />
    * Mark Pryor of Arkansas<br />
    * Ken Salazar of Colorado
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<p>A divide and conquer? Then swoop in the “hero”?  Sounds like a sick, manipulative hero complex to me…But it has been successful in the past.</p>
<p>Many fell for it at the time…Lots of us did…</p>
<p>Obama beware…media IS fickle…</p>
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		<title>By: twolf1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649319</link>
		<dc:creator>twolf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lol&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649318</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dedicated to Paulson, McSFB, et al&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Just desserts&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dedicated to Paulson, McSFB, et al</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8" rel="nofollow">Just desserts</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: moondancer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649317</link>
		<dc:creator>moondancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Imagine the dilemma: destroy your campaign to save it, or plod along while it self-destructs.  Poor Krusty&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine the dilemma: destroy your campaign to save it, or plod along while it self-destructs.  Poor Krusty</p>
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		<title>By: Frank33</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649316</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh what a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsweek.com/id/160713&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tangled web we weave &lt;/a&gt;when trying to get the SHOCK AND AWE DOCTRINE over the stupid people. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The New York Times, posted on the campaign’s Web site on Wednesday, campaign spokesman Michael Goldfarb said that Davis “separated from his consulting firm, Davis Manafort, in 2006.” (A senior campaign official, in an e-mail statement to NEWSWEEK that was not for attribution on Tuesday night, said “Rick is no longer affiliated with the firm.”)  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But those statements appear to have overstated the extent to which Davis had severed his relationship with his lobbying firm. Filings made by “Davis Manafort Partners” with the Virginia Corporation Commission as recently as April 1, 2008, show that Davis was still listed as one of only two corporate officers and directors of the firm, according to records on the commission’s Web site reviewed by NEWSWEEK. That filing records Davis as the “treas/clerk” of the firm; his business partner, Paul Manafort is listed as the president and chief executive officer.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_campaign_paid_Davis_firm_months_0925.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;But it is all fungible.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
The Arizona senator’s presidential campaign paid at least $90,000 to Davis Manafort Inc., the firm Davis founded with Republican lobbyist Paul J. Manafort, during the first six months of last year, while Davis was serving as CEO for the campaign.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh what a <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/160713" rel="nofollow">tangled web we weave </a>when trying to get the SHOCK AND AWE DOCTRINE over the stupid people. </p>
<blockquote><p>The New York Times, posted on the campaign’s Web site on Wednesday, campaign spokesman Michael Goldfarb said that Davis “separated from his consulting firm, Davis Manafort, in 2006.” (A senior campaign official, in an e-mail statement to NEWSWEEK that was not for attribution on Tuesday night, said “Rick is no longer affiliated with the firm.”)  </p>
<p>But those statements appear to have overstated the extent to which Davis had severed his relationship with his lobbying firm. Filings made by “Davis Manafort Partners” with the Virginia Corporation Commission as recently as April 1, 2008, show that Davis was still listed as one of only two corporate officers and directors of the firm, according to records on the commission’s Web site reviewed by NEWSWEEK. That filing records Davis as the “treas/clerk” of the firm; his business partner, Paul Manafort is listed as the president and chief executive officer.</p>
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<p><a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_campaign_paid_Davis_firm_months_0925.html" rel="nofollow">But it is all fungible.</a></p>
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The Arizona senator’s presidential campaign paid at least $90,000 to Davis Manafort Inc., the firm Davis founded with Republican lobbyist Paul J. Manafort, during the first six months of last year, while Davis was serving as CEO for the campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: JimWhite</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/26/early-morning-swim-32/#comment-1649315</link>
		<dc:creator>JimWhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Breaking.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94406&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McCain and his sidekick&lt;/a&gt; are headed toward the debate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking.  <a href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-94406" rel="nofollow">McCain and his sidekick</a> are headed toward the debate.</p>
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