Low expectations or screwball comedy?
The debate on Friday was to focus on Mr. McCain’s perceived strength, foreign policy. Mr. McCain had not planned to devote large blocks of time to debate practice as did Mr. Obama, who was holing up with a tight circle of advisers at a hotel in Clearwater, Fla., on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday to prepare. Mr. McCain had a preparatory session on Wednesday afternoon at the Morgan Library in Manhattan, but advisers said it had been interrupted by his decision, announced immediately afterward, to suspend his campaign.
"I don’t wanna do this anymore, let’s come up with an excuse. Get to work on an excuse, one of you various and sundry Tuckers, I employ!"
Now this information was clearly leaked by either a disgruntled Tucker or a weaselly Tucker playing the expectations game. There are so many Tuckers it is hard to truly know.
Meanwhile, another random Tucker is weaseling to try to get Sarah Palin out of a debate, having accomplished the dubious feat of being outwitted by Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric. "Unprepared, non-vetted, patronized, shallow ideologues rock!"
Dumb Tuckers.



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I have been wondering for some time now if everyone with the name Tucker is an a**hole?? It would appear so.
A foreign policy debate would be like lipstick on a pig when Congress is about to give 700 billion Dollars to the Banks. I don’t see any debate Moderator staying on topic about foreign policy in that atmosphere.
I see a lot of Foreign Policy questions being asked like just how can we afford a war and a 700 billion or MORE bailout without raising taxes.
Naturally McCain is stalling for time and praying a real game changer happens, but what besides a Coup could save him now?
Also are gas prices still high in the South thanks to the Hurricane? That cannot be good for Bush in the polls. The South was McCain’s last hope.
Tucker Carlson is working for McCain now? Er Openly working for McCain now?
Rolling on the floor!
nite attaturk, things, pups
At the end Palin says “I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring ‘em to ya”. ..bring ‘em to ya..Does she always talk like that? Just curious..I don’t watch her on tv because her voice is like 1,000 fingernails on chalkboards.
If she does, all of you who watch her and report to us deserve some kind of special medal.
Here’s me thinking its early for the October surprise, but not by much.
How come “they” have been working on this “problem” for months, and have only two nebulous pages to show for it?
Where is it written that there will be a second chance to get things right? Those fools wanting a second coming are in for a shock, methinks it will not be “Jesus – Take Two” if all have screwed up take one.
The sophomorons who have brought you Chicago School of Economics and were created as sycophants to give studied intellectual credence to the wishes of those styling themselves the ruling class are the Achilles heel of the ediface they serve. Theirs has no ability to address this or any other problem concerning economics, that is the nature of their fraud. That fraud will bring down the ruling class like no other factor.
The ignorant will inherit the earth, there will be no one else surviving.
What is Wrong with this? Lets count the mistakes
1) Who said McCain is strong on Foreign Policy?
a) Still confusing Sunni and Shia despite America being at war for how many years?
b) McCain says that we are all Georgians now the President of Georgia however says that is nice but he would prefer some help. Now is Russia leaving Georgia despite all McCain’s help?
c) McCain says that he knows how to win wars, I wonder why he hasn’t told President Bush the Secrete yet?
2) Name any foreign policy success McCain has had ever?
3) Does any one really think that McCain was going to study hard for the debates?
a) Was McCain going to study for the Debates as hard as he vetted Sarah Palin?
b) Was McCain going to study for the debates with the same shrewd thinking that made him pick Phil Gramm and Carly Fiorina as his economics advisers?
c) was he going to study extra hard to make sure that he didn’t say another the fundamentals of the economy are strong gaffe right before Bush starts begging for a $700 billion bailout?
Nite Newtonusr :) Sarah being outwitted by MSM hacks throwing softball questions that I bet were decided in advance, or at least the topics of the questions were decided in advance.
After all I would have asked Sarah about the Bridge to nowhere, her witch hunting preacher, leaving her hometown millions in debt etc.
It’s not based on any particular data point..we just wanted to choose a really large number…a quote from a Treasury spokes woman to Forbes.
http://www.forbes.com/home/200…..jz_bw_0923
700 billion no second chance.
Not me I can’t watch her for more than a few minutes. I can’t watch Fox at all and Frankly I do not see why I have to pay for Fox News, CNN with Lou Dobbs, or CNN headline news with Glenn Beck just because I want to see Rachel and Bill Mahr.
(I got cable back this week just for the debates)
Are Tuckers the new Kagans?
trying again..http:www.forbes.com/home/2008/09/23/bailout-paulson-congress-biz-beltway-cx_jz_bw_0923bailout.html
I wonder if Pat Buchanan and Andrew Sullivan would prefer Obama and a Lefty Government to a McCain Presidency run by NeoCons like Tuckers and Kagans?
I wonder if they would prefer FDR and J Maynard Keyes to Bush and Paulson or McCain and Phil Gramm bailing out the banks?
Fox noise is never watched by me..You pay so that the companies can pay multi million dollar salaries to white racist piggies who promote Republican views!
Lawmakers on Capitol Hill seem determined to work together to pass a bill that will get the credit markets churning again. But will they do it this week, as some had hoped just a few days ago? Don’t count on it.
“Do I expect to pass something this week?” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., mused to reporters Tuesday. “I expect to pass something as soon as we can. I think it’s important that we get it done right, not get it done fast.”
Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, says his office has gotten “close to zero” calls in support of the $700 billion plan proposed by the administration. He doubts it’ll happen immediately either. “I don’t think it has to be a week” he says. “If we do it right, then we need to take as long as it need
http://www.forbes.com/home/200…..ilout.html
My Bold Real Good Catch BlueButterfly you get the Gold for Good News:)
I hate paying but if I want even basic cable I’m stuck the law should be changed.
So much for my Oracle Jones routine. ;-)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059250/
http://www.forbes.com/home/200…..ilout.html
My bold Rasmussen polling says that 44% oppose? Rass is in the tank for the GOP they and Fox compete to show who can make McCain look better! I think that there is not enough cool aid in the world to help the GOP base swallow this pig.
Thank you…
Here is a web site where you can find out all of the political contributions for Federal Elections since 1980. Some contributions sure explain who is backing who and who is sort of getting paid off, maybe.
I learned one thing..did all of you people know that Phil Gramm ran for president? Dr. Phil donated to that campaign.
http://newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations
No I like your angle obviously people who want, expect and work toward creating the rapture by any means necessary should not be counted on to care about the trivial things of Man’s world like budgets.
And under no conditions should they be let anywhere near the button.
I just wish they spent more time trying to make the world a place that did not have to be destroyed Sarah calling this war for oil a holy war is WRONG!
Ossama still walks free in Pakistan as Bush wastes our time in Iraq and does nothing to get him.
Your Welcome:) I never trusted Dr Phil
just a small completion, no charge ;-)
Thanks I wonder When Bush will stop talking about the Surge and talk about Ossama again? I won’t hold my breath.
1) I think John McCain wants to try and skip the debate (yes thats obvious)
2) I think that McCain wants to claim credit for any deal reached on Friday by claiming that halting his campaign and twisting arms in Washington created the deal.
a) McCain is not on Dodds Committee so he will not even be in the room when any deal is made.
b) Given the very real possibility that even with a Good Deal the market and banks will still tank thanks to Bush waiting so long to tell us his economy sucks.
Why Would McCain want credit for this deal?
1,776 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Attaturk and the Firepup freedom Fighters:
Now I’m gunna go out on a limb here and maybe all my “community organizing” and canvasing for Obama and doin’ block meetings has blown me up with a lotta “wannabe” or out of control optimism but I really think that the Democratic Party folks especially in the House and the emmerging new leadership in the Senate are playin’ this thing out and coordinating with Obama. I don’t think there is gunna be much more’n $150million in the immediate authorization with a promise of budget authority for more with strings and Congressional “okie doke”. The longer this goes the more the people of the country begin ta understand that there is no immediate crisis and when the opposition to the $700 million figure gets over 50% the Democrats are gunna bring the hammer down and put McCrazy outta business.
One of the positives comin outta this process is the emmergence of new leadership in the Senate behind, Dodd, Sherrod Brown and Durbin. The old corporatists includin Pelosi and Hoyer have been “disappeared” for this one.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNTION, THE WAR IS NOW IN YOUR LIVINGROOM!!
I hope that you are right Norske I like your Optimism :)
..maybe..I think that he rots in the ground,actually…Nobody wants to look for him..He isn’t even wanted for 911!
The source of the anti Muslim DVD circulated for free in newspapers recently:
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=43983
Can we please get rid of all the power hungry freaks who pretend to believe in the rapture? Get f…ing real why don’t they? If they weren’t so dangerous, they would be amusing in their ignorance.
I don’t know what is worse…if they are pretending to believe, of if they do believe. Either way, it bodes ill for all of us if Palin gets into the White House.
Probably more importantly, this marks a fundamental policy change, one that leaves the country and its people open to and guilty of crimes against the peace, war crimes, genocide, and crimes against humanity, for which there is no refuge. The ability to maintain innocence as a viable defense is no longer. The censure visited upon the German population as result of the Nazi ideology will be visited upon the Yanks just as surely. The children of America have blood on their hands that will not wash off, no matter how long or hard they try, that blood cannot be believed away, no flag will hide the stain.
Fuckin asshole mornin Joe jailing about how the debate HAS to be delayed! The other jerk says yea, if they don’t the will inject politics into the debate.
Railing
McSaim throws off his uniform and flees the battlefield in his longjohns. Must be sprinting toward that hot bottled water over yonder.
My friends, that’s not change we can believe in.
Citizen T-Bear:
The blood is on OUR hands, the old folks who allowed this ta happen…our children are gunna hafta deal with the guilt, shame and weakness that comes with inheriting a tapestry of history with a huge hole where human values and truth used to be. But make no mistake, it ain’t our kids who made this mess but it’s our kids who will deal with it…and deal with it they will!!
Citizen Raven:
Rail away, Brother Freebird, rail away!
Agreed the only thing we can do is push to get Bush up on war crimes. I doubt that we can make up for the things done in our name but we can try.
attaturk, you hit the nail on the head, mccain realized his mental facilities are faltering when they tried a faux debate, he had no choice but to pull out
I wonder if he understands he is no longer has the mental capacity for the office and is going to have to dole out responsibility just like bush and reagan
Politics like how do we pay for this bailout? Politics like making Bush pass a tax to pay for this bailout?
Or does no understanding of economics Joe who as a member of Newt’s revolution voted for the deregulation of the banks that lead to this banking crisis?
Joe is afraid that his zeitgeist/world view is collapsing!
We have a 700 billion dollar bailout before us the next logical question is how do we pay for it?
Printing more money will only devalue the Dollar and make gas, food etc cost us more WHICH IS THE SAME THING AS A TAX since it takes money out of my pocket!
F Joe! What Crackerjack box did he get his degree from?
hehe…good one, the debate IS about politics, geniouos these guys
We need another post from Kirk about McCain’s declining mental facilities.
someone needs to point out if the debate is delayed there will be millions of dollars lost, it is not recovered the next debate since there is an ongoing source of revenue, it is compounded on top of itself
costing companies and the economy this revenue is an irresponsible suggestion when we are talking about hurting the economy more
there, that should be the democratic response
off to the gym. good to see everyone
Bye Perris!
Good Morning, Firepups!
It’s cool and clear this morning in central Jersey, with rain coming tonight and staying for several days.
OMG. Where to begin? McSame is cracking up on national teevee. It’s bizarro-world right now. He knows he’ll get clobbered in the debate with Obama. He knows Palin will get clobbered in the debate with Biden. So, in spite of the bad press coverage, he feels he has to do this. But leaders don’t do this. He’s punting this just like he’s punted everything in his political career. He’s just doing it with many, many more people watching this time.
There’s been some really helpful financial writing in the past few days, starting with a great piece in NY Times by David Leonhardt. And Paul Krugman’s blog at the Times has been essential reading.
From the looks of the bailout plan being crafted in the joint economic committee [check out some info over at TPM (they had a PDF of an early draft, but that’s been taken down; don’t know exactly what form it will finally take)], Congress is working out something that won’t cost as much as Hanky Panky and Helicopter Ben want us to pay, that has Dodd’s warrants idea [we help out Bank X to the tune of $$$ and get warrants to receive stock in the amount of $$$, so that when Bank X emerges from the rubble, we, the American taxpayers, have something of value for bailing out Bank X].
McSame is irrelevant. But the Dems on the Hill don’t want to vote for the bailout of the great sh*tpile, only to have him demagogue the issue in the less than six weeks remaining in the campaign. So there were cries yesterday that McSame has to vote for this package–or the Dems won’t pass it. No wonder he’s suspended his campaign. It was the only thing he’d be able to run on, and the Dems won’t let him do it. He has to go back to the Senate and try to look like Mr. Bipartisanship. It’s his only hope.
Don’t forget to read Steve Benen and Hilzoy over at The Washington Monthly. They’ve been fabulous.
There’s plenty of coffee, some hot water for tea, and lemon poppyseed loaf this morning. Help yourselves.
Work for peace, every day.
I wonder how many deregulation bills Joe voted for?
Not quite ready for prime time huh!
How the hell are they going to deal with 3:00 AM phone call, “Call back later when I am ready” WTF. I am dumbfounded by the balls of these goopers… what do they think they run the fucking world, my way or no way?
I look forward to the obama aria on Friday while Palin/McFailin have “sex” in DC
Good Morning, Americanblog has more on this http://www.cnbc.com/id/26881273 The world will never be as it was before the crisis,” Steinbrueck told parliament. “The United States will lose its superpower status in the world financial system. The world financial system will become more multi-polar.” Germany seems to thing that we lost our super-power status.
Work for peace, every day.
Does the Lake have a motto? :)
Somehow the idea of McSame rushing back to DC to save us is not reassuring
and the RWNFs are desperate to seize on anything, anything but a fucking debate.
I would rather the Great Old Ones come back that see those two do it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Old_One
Good morning, pups. It’s Collins, Cohen and Kristof today. Ms. Collins says “Bring On the Rubber Chicken,” and that President Bush’s explanation about how the rescue bill would unclog the lines of credit made the whole thing sound less important than a Liquid-Plumr commercial. Mr. Cohen’s column is titled “Palin’s American Exception.” He says Sarah Palin loves the word “exceptional.” She may be onto something in her batty way: the election is very much about American exceptionalism. Mr. Kristof writes about “A Heroine From the Brothels,” and says that sex trafficking is widely acknowledged to be the 21st-century version of slavery, but governments accept it partly because it seems to defy solution.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got waffles with Vermont maple syrup this morning. So today would appear to be the day when the Democrats collapse like a puffball, emitting spores of failure, or will it be tomorrow? [snarl] Have as good a day as possible.
Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here! THIS IS THE WAR ROOM.
need . eye . bleach
OT
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WO…..hina.milk/
Food deregulation is just as much a disaster as financial deregulation.
Yeah I feel so dirty and not in that good way.
In preparation for Martial Law, it’s time we develop new words (and revive some old ones) in preparation for the new reality:
Got Food?
How about this take on the situation
A Bailout We Don’t Need, By James K. Galbraith
Thursday, September 25, 2008; Page A19
Has the little boy cried, “Wolf!” too many times?
Does this sound a bit like the drumbeat leading to the AUMF?
When this administration yells, “Hurry! Act Now!”, are we entitled to a little skepticism, at least enough to slow down and take a good look at the situation and see what the real problem is?
Bob in HI
Ha ha ha ha ha!
You funny.
Bob in HI
Missed the palin/couric interview and just read some of the transcript Plain actually said “I’ll find some [examples of McCain supporting more regulation] and bring them to you” ??? Is that goof “tyranscript”? Or did she really say that. Isn’t it a shame that I even have to ask?
Great things come from Vermont, maple syrup, cheeses (I am taking a cheese making course there next month), Bernie Sanders and PAtrick Leahy (well, sometimes).
Or leadership’s cynical acceptance of Malthus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus
Plunger, Gas Rationing sounds good. I live just north of Atlanta and at least that way we would have some stations open. It is just odd to go by four corners of gas stations and have them closed.
My father died of brain and neck cancer. I am seeing memories in McCain’s eyes and face…he is changing rapidly…I might be wrong..but I have deep suspicion that he won’t see next year. Just saw a close up of him on tv and something is seriously wrong with him.
I grew up in Hudon County lived in Central NJ until a few years ago. Wish i had some Taylor Ham for breakfast.I haven’t had Taylor ham, egg & cheese on a hard roll in over 3 years. NJ still pretty solid blue?
Now that all five big investment banks — Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley — have disappeared or morphed into regular banks, a question arises.
No more investment banks but who will provide the hedgefunds the cash for their Ponzi schemes? Where is Ian? Will only Foreign banks be cursed with this toxic loan paper in the future? How will American hedge funds survive will they have to outsource themselves to other countries?
Can we be that lucky?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..newsletter
No she said it.
Hey marion. waffles & syrup sound great. Is tehre a copy of The Morning Dissapointment I can read with breakfast?
Oh Christ. I don’t know what to say. Oh Christ.
There are rumors floating about on the intertoobz that his rush to “suspend his campaign” have more to do with health issues than with a national crisis. Rumors not based on fact? Yes. However, as we have been instructed by the other side, it would be irresponsible not to speculate.
still shaking head.
Not sure if it is still there but Time Magazine’s The Page had a link to the transcript.
Here you go, the Savannah Daily Disappointment. And the actual quote from Sarah was “I’ll get them to ya,” with that “Fargo” accent.
The rest of the world is not waiting. From reading sites around the world, I can tell you that many countries have already prepared the paperwork for the Hague.
Bush and the boys will not be able to travel to many other countries without being heavily guarded..not Condi, either.
911 is a much discussed topic in some European countries, too. The Japanese Parliament has had hearings basically pointing out all of the gov’t lies. The European Parliament had an official hearing on 911 as well. The rest of the civilized world is wide awake and watching.
Saw a little video of that this morning. “Look my computer crashed last night and my homework was lost, I will have it done again sometime and will let you have it then”
God is knowledge according to ST Augustine Sarah, Bush, McCain and the GOP in general deny God when they deny knowledge about global warming, the economy etc.
The revulsion you feel at Sarah’s stupidity is only a natural reaction to evil.
You and me and the rest of us miserable fucking sods suffering under this gooper bolix
Some links would be great when you get the chance please no rush job on this.
Seems like good news is everywhere today!
I hate to disagree with you Marion but that is a “folksie” accent not fargo.
She said,”I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring ‘em to ya…
Even 700 billion is not enough and no we don’t have it the Dollar will be used for wallpaper if this passes without a tax and an end to the war to pay for it.
Sorry China, Japan and Europe do not have the money to pay 700 billion.
And speaking of the long lost Condi how come she didn’t “play” obama in the mock debate with Mc, Mc, what’s his name… look I’ll get back to ya on that.
Here’s the transcript of Palin’s performance.
COURIC: Would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average Americans keep their homes?
PALIN: That’s something that John McCain and I have both been discussing whether that is part of the solution or not…you know, it’s going to be a multi-faceted that has to be found here. not sure what she means about the multi-faceted thing!
http://thepage.time.com/gov-pa…..ning-news/
I am going to have to read that. I just put it on my pile of post its of ideas to research.
Damn! Just knew someone would want some links…har..
It’s teenage talk.
i just read a posted excerpt. that’s why i thought it might be a goof. she’s out tere evreyday talking about what a mav’rick reformer this guy supposed is and Couric gives her a fanatstic opportunity to back it up and she says “I’ll get back to you”???? Oh God. (Did I say that already?)
BTW, that “one instance” of McCain supprting greater regulation is bullshot. There was a great summary in Daily Kos. Bill was introduced in 2005. Was sent to committee. A reprt came out in 2006 critical of Fannie & Freddie. In May 2006, McCain gets off his ass, reads some of the report into the record and co-sponsors this bill which has been sitting in committee for a year. And please note the dates. When they say the Democrtas killed this bill, this all happened (2005-mid 2006) when the Republicans still controlled the Senate. I’ll look for the Kos link. You won’t hear this being refuted much. No why? There’s so much bullshit put out there by Mccain and Palin, Obama-Biden simply can’t refute it all. Seriously.
Oh, gawd! It would appear that our memories are trying, in some small way, to make her sound less like a moron than she actually is.
Evil? Ya think? Hmmmm. Hadn’t thought of it taht way.
Killer Joe on GE does not approve of Letterman’s mockery last nite. “New World Order” Mika also does not approve. But Crazy did tell Dave he was flying back to Dee Cee when he was actually smoozing with Couric. Dave was definitely mad.
Oh no Nooner is also on! Three neo-cons telling us what to think.
she is so. Friggin’. Inarticulate. O don’t know what she’s talking about either.
Did you see any mention of $700 bill from me nah. I would expect that we are looking at a trillion or two for starters but as we are all fucked anyway I say let the whole damn thing come crashing down, we would still be fucked but the money grabbers would be fucked too.
Yes H.P LoveCraft Evil with a Capital E, dogs bark and plants die evil
I meant to stay up. Tried. But I fell asleep but heard he was pissed. jane was saying last night that when letterman gets pissed he sometimes doesn’t let it for for a long time.
I stand corrected after all when has Bush EVER brought anything in on or under budget?
O don’t know what she’s talking about either.
should be I don’t know……
Hitting my O instead of I. Right next to each other.
NPR did a piece last night on McCain’s “Time Out” and in the report Mara Liasson implied that it was a savy and smart move by McCain and that he had once again taken the momemtum away from Obama. How long must NPR listeners suffer the idiocy of “reporters” of Liasson’s ilk? I really wish people would stop funding NPR. It’s zenith days was during Watergate and it has reaced it’s nader during the last 8 years.
Good morning everyone!
Let’s hope Barack Obama is the only one who shows up on Friday to talk about the economy & foreign policy. Honestly, he’s the only one we WANT to be listening to on these subjects!
By the way that bill McCain co-sponsored….. Bush opposed the substantially similar House bill as too weak. (!!!!!!!!)
How the hell do you manage to watch that crap? Is it for morning humour to start they day, is it to get you mad enough to deal with commuting, or do you need therapy?
Drove east to west ends of NC early in the week. Highest I saw on regular was $4.29 down to $3.79. The price is less a problem than being able to find any to buy! During the week stations have either been out or distributors are only delivering partial shipments which then result in long lines and empty pumps within a short period of time. I’m planning to head back east tomorrow and am pretty worried making it 400 miles trying to find places to top off along the trip. The upside is having a car with beer taste vs. champagne…….but it’ll drink the good stuff in a pinch. *g*
I bet ONE of the October Surprises will be McCain/Palin pulling out of the race and then the neocons will put in Gingrich/Cheney or Jeb Bush/Gingrich or something similar.
Good Morning everyone. I’m wondering if the real reason for the debate postponement is their request to reschedule it for the veep timeslot. They get a twofer. Then, lo and behold, the Palin people and the Biden people can’t agree on a new debate time and Sarah never has to debate Biden.
here’s that link:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/20/21195/8886
-and another:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/24/04229/7884
disingenuos lying bastard.
Joe wishes he was half as funny as Dave on a bad day. To destroy someone in power mock them make perfectly clear that you would not want to be like them even if you were granted money and power.
When power is mocked and there are no reprisals others feel safe to join in.
So never underestimate the value of Snark!
Gave up on them a long time ago. Give to Democracy Now what I used to give to NPR. WBUR has classical music 24 hours a day, very pleasant.
You are sooooo right on that. Gingrich/Romney might be the ticket however.
NC is a long way from Texas fuel shortages are worse than high prices. I want some red state polling this can’t be good for the GOP.
Same here…….KO was supposed to take mcsame’s place. That musta been a fine set of fireworks. :-)
Good insight!
I usually do not watch Dave, he gets a little too moody at times.Last nkte, he did say Crazy was a hero POW (I do not agree with the hero part myself.) But then, showing Crazy and Katie together, Dave must have said “McCain suspended his campaign”about 10 times and got laaughs for each one. Keith was also on as Crazy’s replacement.
But I did not hear them say that for McCain winning SHOCK DOCTRINE was more important than the election.
IANA economist, but the best idea I read recently is to make the bailout funds a loan, not a giveaway. Until the loan is repaid, no exec bonuses, no dividends. Have no idea if that would work but it sounded reasonable.
I like it:)
It’s coming. I can feel it. The other October Surprise will be related to the Army Combat Brigade Unit being set up and trained right now on American soil. The neocons are either going to do something to Barack or they’re going to start dropping nukes on our soil to get 2 things:
Stay in power
War in Iran or a country of their choice
Scary times we’re living in right now and I thank the neocons who hate America for it.
Thanks! Reporting actual facts “is hard work” for the Main Stream Media.
Don’t rush take your time and then dazzle us one day:)
I don’t know that people are associating it with goopers; unlikely. Having the Gulf facilities shut down/damaged during the hurricane is a very viable excuse.
Last week McCain was preaching about how the economy was strong and yesterday he suspends his campaign. He reminds me of rip van wrinkle.
I get the Therapy by ranting here. But someone should always monitor neo-cons and fighting SHOCK DOCTRINE right now is one of our most important battles.
Why they do that the stockmarket will tank nobody loans money during a military coup. The Dollar will tank more. American hedge funds will move cash out of America and then buy foreign assets.
Opps sorry I’m thinking logically when discussing how the GOP sees the world my bad.
Per cnn and scar, sounds like shrub is getting panned across the board for his fear mongering last night.
Well, considering the Patriot Act was written in the 1990’s (my theory), the neocons have been planning on making America into the new Saudi Arabia for a long time. Get used to the image of public hangings with lots of “immoral” liberals on the end of the rope!
I wished the US military would turn on the White House by storming it today IN DEFENSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. That’s the only kind of military coup I would accept at this point.
Bush is still fighting a war for oil so higher gas prices always hurt him. That and Bush is a Texas oilman pushing for offshore oil drilling as the cure for higher oil prices which unfortunately shuts down/is destroyed during hurricanes.
In a world of increasingly strong greenhouse effect hurricanes relying on offshore oil drilling for our oil is like hoping for peace in the middle east to lower oil prices.
Does anyone have recent pictures of McCain? Atrios mentioned his left eye and others have mentioned that he looked ill.
If we’re in a financial crisis, then can someone please explain to me why other companies haven’t failed this week and why the stock market isn’t tumbling? Is someone lying to us? Yep!
The vultures on the market are waiting in the shadows for George Bush to steal MORE BILLIONS from the American people and once they get their money and slap each other five, then their company will fail. You watch.
I hate them more than beets & liver.
I’m ok with that but I thought Rummy purged the Pentagon.
Naw McCain looks Undead
Joe is calling Bush out on the fear mongering?
Morning!
7:30 am – Rep. James Walsh (R-NY), Appropriations Committee, Member
8:00 am – David Herszenhorn, New York Times, Congressional Reporter
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Digg please
http:video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2680190129949942423
33 minutes long in Japanese…so, it is subtitled…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqtQrP2CZwY
a 2:32 update asking why the FBI don’t list bin Ladin for 911…
http://www.nwotruth.com/transc…..testimony/
Rummy still has a desk at the Pentagon and a staff of 6. Nancy Pelosi is the one who exclaimed that fact.
Neocons never go away. They’re always in the shadows. Hell, they’ve even created a Shadow Government outside our government and Dick Cheney has been the president of it too!
Paulson looks like a vulture
I hate them more than beets & liver too
Thanks I look at them now.
1,776 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Firepup freedom Fighters:
OK, folks, the ol’ Norske’s gunna bring it down to ya. There won’t be a “deal” on the bailout until sometime next week. What we are seein’ is the Democrats (with a good clump of Republicans) standin’ up to the naked emperor Chicken Little…and after last night, as each day goes by and the sky hasn’t fallen another $100 billion comes offa the settlement.
Notice that there is an entire new leaderhsip cadre showin up for the Dems durin this thing…Durbin, Brown and Dodd in the Senate and Pelosi and Hoyer have been “dissapeared in the House.
And Obama is coordinating the whole thing!
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNTION, THESE BASTARDS AREN’T GONE YET!!
The deployment of troops is not a good thing but the facts are out of the MSM headlights, pushed aside by the financial fears, so most of America is not aware. I agree with you totally @120. We need people in the streets, knocking down the doors of wall street and the white house but if we did that they would call out the farkin troops.
Anyone know if Johnny McTeleprompter has made it to Washington, DC yet or was he just trying to divert Americans away from the fact he’s wearing lipstick?
His Sr. Campaign Adviser just said he was in New York. Oh boy. Does Johnny not know the layout of America? Maybe he can’t find the District of Columbia on the map? [CUE THE MAP OF THE UNITED STATES]
How do you think this is going to play out? If McC doesn’t show for the debate, will Palin show for hers? I’m betting no way, no how, does Palin debate Biden. They’re spending every moment trying to figure out a way to stop the veep debate. JMHO.
Morning Joe got his talking points memo about the debate cancellation directly from the McCain campaign. Politics in the debates? THEY ARE POLITICS….
And Barney Frank (my personal fave).
you must mean Mc CANE… Because she is evil, not stupid…she probably can’t stand to be in the same room as him and she likely really hates Palin if she (Con) wanted to be vice-pres…
Breaking News: The McCain campaign has requested that Friday be suspended.
Given how “base” the Evangelical base is, many are likely to receive the word of Ms. Palin’s alleged affair on the cover of the National Enquirer as “gospel,” particularly when viewed in the context of the recent “revelations” regarding the Edwards affair.
I had a neocon this morning on my blog tell me that Johnny is forcing Obama to do his job! LMAO! Wow. The neocons are reaching….they’re reaching high today!
Barney Frank sounded like a sell out jerk yesterday. Giving the whole thing the bum’s rush and facile with all the R talking points. I didn’t see much to like there.
That’s right he is in the Capital dealing with the financial “crisis”
Well, I’ll defer to your opinion. I just read at Huffpo that he thinks he has a bill ready. Do you know anything about it?
He certainly does not sound like the Barney we all knew and loved a few years ago
Will the revolution be televised?
http://www.indypendent.org/200…..d-lighted-torches-protest-at-wall-st-this-thursday-at-4pm/
I wonder if he has his checkbook on him?
But Johnny said he was needed back in DC in the Senate because he’s the only one to save the day! Spit.
The only thing that’s in public domain is a summary (over on TPM) that’s full of shoulds and shalls and no details. Has all the signs of a sellout to me.
Unsure if it was scar or somebody else on……can only bear half-listening for *very* limited amounts of time.
Thank You!
Cindy de Vil keeps the check book, the purse strings and the pills.
Also, I posted this last night, but for those who weren’t around:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/…..ge-number/
In other words, as I expected, they just guessed. Treasury has no idea how much is needed, and there were NO Qs about the magnitude, except for Schumer who probed doing it in tranches, not how they came up with $700 billion.
Johnny is going to need all of them today. Thankya Jebus for Cindy Loo Hoo!
Here comes the first clash between the citizens and the banksters – in the streets – this afternoon:
http://www.indypendent.org/200…..y-at-4-pm/
The resulting visuals of middle-aged men and women being held back from banksters by armed military thugs on Wall Street should be highly disturbing to the majority of Americans – and send reverberations worldwide.
Martial Law cometh. The banksters will be the first to demand it.
The transcript is a lie…listen at the very end..she says ‘em to ya…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hFOnShQ
You are welcome…
lol, did she say ya while chewing gum and smacking her lips?
If only Herbert Hoover had suspended his campaign against FDR in 1932 he might have weathered the storm.
that sounds to me like it would be a perfect line for barak to lift
you know, I just had a terrible throught, follow along;
1)bush last nite had the same look he had while reading my pet goat upside down
2) mccain declares this enough of an “emergency” to “suspend his campaign”
3) the media is starting to fall behind this claim
4) directive 51
need I say more for you to don your tin foil bullet proof vests?
There are way too many videos on the European Parliaments 911 hearings for me to do links…please just google European Parliament 911 and they will be right there for all of you who are interested.
The hearings were held on Feb.26,2008. Gee…didn’t the MSM gangs cover this? I’m shocked..just shocked, I tell ya! It was big news in Europe..
A Italian film crew did a documentary on 911 that is blacklisted in the USA. Zero can be found on youtube…10 videos to watch..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
hmmm…probably not!
trying again…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
trying again…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-DtO00Jg6s&feature=related
post only the part after =
I’ll be able to get to it from that, leave out the dot com stuff also
McCain too Distraught and Overwhelmed by economic crisis to debate and explain to the American people what clear ideas and solutions he has to handle this crisis. May be McCain is unable to handle the stress and is having a senior moment, because when you are President of the United States, there is no rest for the weary, and you are always on Call!
Or, is McCain really being dirty and underhanded, trying to pull the wool out from under Barack’s feet, when he reached out to him early Wedensday morning in a bi-partisan moment, so together they could show solidarity and release a Joint Statement, however, McCain did not like that idea and decidied to bring politics into an already unsteady situation in an attempt to aid his political career, pretending that it was he who reached out to Barack and not the otherway around! However, that was not good enough, he must one-up him and cancel the campaign all together, the crisis is so great, a sudden change of heart that makes McCain look phony and untrustworthy. That is not putting Country first, but we already know that by his Pallin pick!
And, of course, the debates should not be cancelled. A President has to be able to multi-task, big time! McCain’s cancelling looks more like a senior moment or that he is too overwhelmed and distraught to be albe to explain to the country just what he would do to address this problem. Maybe McCain will not be able to answer that 3:00 a.m. phone call as a President is always on call.
McCain the Wizard of Oz now pretends he has a heart, brain and courage! If so, its not working very well. His wall of lies and deceipt are closing in on him and soon there will be no place to hide, not even in the Senate. McCain you can run, you can lie, but you cannot hide and Humpty Dumpty couldnot be put together again!
I sure wish that I had seen this earlier…I am having a difficult time learning this link stuff. If you see this, can you type what I should have typed..I am confused…there is only the word related after = so I really don’t understand your instructions…
I vote for…all of the above! He is a shape-shifter…constantly changing positions on everything…and in her video, Palin dared to lick her finger, stick it up in the air and say that Obama waits to see which way the wind is blowing…The Republican trick of blaming your opponent for what you are doing.This Humpty Dumpty never was together! He has been a bad apple for his whole life and is not improving with age.
I am hopeless…I just noticed that there is two =s…
Methinks you are on to something there. This is nothing other than a cry “wolf” once too often. Now is the time to show the Emperor is buck naked, his clothes are for naught, his reason de entre is nill. Negate the plan, see the preplans, see the source. Then, and only then agree of discuss. Withhold is the key.