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	<title>Comments on: Breaking:  Obama Lays Down a Marker on the Bailout</title>
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		<title>By: Trismegistus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-lays-down-a-marker-on-the-bailout/#comment-1647897</link>
		<dc:creator>Trismegistus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In case ppl don’t know &lt;a href=&quot;http://publicmarkup.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://publicmarkup.org/&lt;/a&gt; has the text of Dodd’s bill and the Bush regime’s proposal.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I called both my senators and my rep.  Used specifics from the bill to talk about.  I think that is better than emails.  Whatever, they do pay attention to phone calls so do EVERYTHING!!! My grandchildren should not have to pay for wars and a bailout to maintain the lifestyles of the rich and famous.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case ppl don’t know <a href="http://publicmarkup.org/" rel="nofollow">http://publicmarkup.org/</a> has the text of Dodd’s bill and the Bush regime’s proposal.  </p>
<p>I called both my senators and my rep.  Used specifics from the bill to talk about.  I think that is better than emails.  Whatever, they do pay attention to phone calls so do EVERYTHING!!! My grandchildren should not have to pay for wars and a bailout to maintain the lifestyles of the rich and famous.</p>
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		<title>By: hazmaq</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-lays-down-a-marker-on-the-bailout/#comment-1647848</link>
		<dc:creator>hazmaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Th snarky photo is completely out of line, and I’m sorry to see this piece of ‘journalism’ as the first facing me since I stopped coming to FDL back in the spring.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Snark back at you, my friend.  For the authors’ biased eyes, Obama’s larger press conference yesterday, did discuss the urgency of bankruptcy reform, as well as a few other urgent issues.  However, he said, there are a few more serious financial issues that, with his 5 caveats attached,(wiping out the Rights’ personal bailout hopes) are more urgent and need quicker action.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s clearly been extremely concerned about changing that bill and talked about it many times, as opposed to the author’s more favored candidate who helped write the original bill and knowing it would pass with all of the Right behind it, didn’t vote for it just to cover her own ass.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So pick your poison, carefully.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Th snarky photo is completely out of line, and I’m sorry to see this piece of ‘journalism’ as the first facing me since I stopped coming to FDL back in the spring.</p>
<p>Snark back at you, my friend.  For the authors’ biased eyes, Obama’s larger press conference yesterday, did discuss the urgency of bankruptcy reform, as well as a few other urgent issues.  However, he said, there are a few more serious financial issues that, with his 5 caveats attached,(wiping out the Rights’ personal bailout hopes) are more urgent and need quicker action.</p>
<p>He’s clearly been extremely concerned about changing that bill and talked about it many times, as opposed to the author’s more favored candidate who helped write the original bill and knowing it would pass with all of the Right behind it, didn’t vote for it just to cover her own ass.</p>
<p>So pick your poison, carefully.</p>
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		<title>By: ImperialFlow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-lays-down-a-marker-on-the-bailout/#comment-1647805</link>
		<dc:creator>ImperialFlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama lost all his credibility to get the “benefit of the doubt” when he reversed on FISA and cleaned-up by selecting Mr. Patriot Act (Biden) as his running-mate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hurl away.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama lost all his credibility to get the “benefit of the doubt” when he reversed on FISA and cleaned-up by selecting Mr. Patriot Act (Biden) as his running-mate.</p>
<p>Hurl away.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-lays-down-a-marker-on-the-bailout/#comment-1647730</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was wondering when someone would finally bring up that this whole economic disaster was called for by Bin Laden! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The following is from the first writing on military science, Sun Tzu, 400 BC, and it’s as applicable today as it was then:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming,&lt;br /&gt;
  […] you will exhaust your strength, and if the campaign is&lt;br /&gt;
  protracted, the resources of the state will not be equal to the&lt;br /&gt;
  strain.  […] In all history, there is no instance of a country&lt;br /&gt;
  having benefited from prolonged warfare.  Only one who knows the&lt;br /&gt;
  distasterous effects of a long war can realize the supreme&lt;br /&gt;
  importance of rapidity in bringing it to a close.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IIRC, that’s from James Clavell’s edition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was wondering when someone would finally bring up that this whole economic disaster was called for by Bin Laden! </p>
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<p>The following is from the first writing on military science, Sun Tzu, 400 BC, and it’s as applicable today as it was then:</p>
<blockquote><p> When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming,<br />
  […] you will exhaust your strength, and if the campaign is<br />
  protracted, the resources of the state will not be equal to the<br />
  strain.  […] In all history, there is no instance of a country<br />
  having benefited from prolonged warfare.  Only one who knows the<br />
  distasterous effects of a long war can realize the supreme<br />
  importance of rapidity in bringing it to a close.  </p>
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<p>IIRC, that’s from James Clavell’s edition.</p>
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		<title>By: STTPinOhio</title>
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		<dc:creator>STTPinOhio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Once again, McGramps is late to the party. This deal — love it or hate it — is all but done, (trust me, the Dow would &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; be up 200 points right now if it wasn’t) and he looks like a knucklehead. As Dodd said, he hasn’t heard from McCain &lt;em&gt;at all&lt;/em&gt; regarding this bill.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This was a clear (and somewhat successful) attempt to:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1 Get the Rick Davis story out of the news cycle. If it got it’s due, Davis probably would’ve had to resign.&lt;br /&gt;
2 Get the Palin interview w/Couric out of the news cycle.&lt;br /&gt;
3 Give McGramps an excuse in advance for his inevitably poor performance in the upcoming debate.&lt;br /&gt;
4 Stop the bleeding in the polls.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, McGramps is late to the party. This deal — love it or hate it — is all but done, (trust me, the Dow would <em>not</em> be up 200 points right now if it wasn’t) and he looks like a knucklehead. As Dodd said, he hasn’t heard from McCain <em>at all</em> regarding this bill.</p>
<p>This was a clear (and somewhat successful) attempt to:</p>
<p>1 Get the Rick Davis story out of the news cycle. If it got it’s due, Davis probably would’ve had to resign.<br />
2 Get the Palin interview w/Couric out of the news cycle.<br />
3 Give McGramps an excuse in advance for his inevitably poor performance in the upcoming debate.<br />
4 Stop the bleeding in the polls.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-lays-down-a-marker-on-the-bailout/#comment-1647726</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good on McCain for throwing a monkey wrench in the way of Frank’s bill.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on McCain for throwing a monkey wrench in the way of Frank’s bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-lays-down-a-marker-on-the-bailout/#comment-1647724</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was wondering when someone would finally bring up that this whole economic disaster was called for by Bin Laden!  Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering when someone would finally bring up that this whole economic disaster was called for by Bin Laden!  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-lays-down-a-marker-on-the-bailout/#comment-1647721</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My #75 was in reply to you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My #75 was in reply to you.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-lays-down-a-marker-on-the-bailout/#comment-1647720</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our economy is directly tied to national security concerns along with many other concerns…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Exactly.  We won WWII by out-manufacturing our opponents.  Now we rely on China to do our manufacturing.  Does anyone else see the strategic flaw in this approach?  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, four years ago, our key opponent in the war on terror, Osama bin Laden,  announced his strategic objective:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah,” bin Laden said in the transcript.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, “using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat,” bin Laden said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As they say, “it’s all about the economy.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Our economy is directly tied to national security concerns along with many other concerns…</p>
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<p>Exactly.  We won WWII by out-manufacturing our opponents.  Now we rely on China to do our manufacturing.  Does anyone else see the strategic flaw in this approach?  ;-)</p>
<p>Also, four years ago, our key opponent in the war on terror, Osama bin Laden,  announced his strategic objective:</p>
<blockquote><p>“We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah,” bin Laden said in the transcript.</p>
<p>He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, “using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers.”</p>
<p>“We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat,” bin Laden said.</p>
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<p>As they say, “it’s all about the economy.”</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-lays-down-a-marker-on-the-bailout/#comment-1647708</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yay!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay!!!</p>
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