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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bail out who? Why? Do I care if there is a Merrill of a Lehman, or a Goldman?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Right, the bailout is for the mortgages and the people who live in those houses, not for the corporations. You save the paper and try to fix it and then reregulate the system to avoid getting in this mess again (Glass-Steagal redo).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not even sure why anything beyond a mortgage (or box of ‘em) should be touched. Is a CDO essential to save? I’d like to know what else, besides mortgages (paper-wise), might be worth saving.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bail out who? Why? Do I care if there is a Merrill of a Lehman, or a Goldman?</p>
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<p>Right, the bailout is for the mortgages and the people who live in those houses, not for the corporations. You save the paper and try to fix it and then reregulate the system to avoid getting in this mess again (Glass-Steagal redo).</p>
<p>I’m not even sure why anything beyond a mortgage (or box of ‘em) should be touched. Is a CDO essential to save? I’d like to know what else, besides mortgages (paper-wise), might be worth saving.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think now is the time to Shock Doctrine Richistan into submission.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Governance is not domination. If we Americans wanted that we would’ve created another Monarchy or Nazi regime.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s one thing to set the rail guards up and put up a speed sign, but to tell people they can’t drive would not only be prejudicial and obviously unconstitutional, it would be contrary to every Democratic value I understand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We don’t tax to punish!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think now is the time to Shock Doctrine Richistan into submission.</p>
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<p>Governance is not domination. If we Americans wanted that we would’ve created another Monarchy or Nazi regime.</p>
<p>It’s one thing to set the rail guards up and put up a speed sign, but to tell people they can’t drive would not only be prejudicial and obviously unconstitutional, it would be contrary to every Democratic value I understand.</p>
<p>We don’t tax to punish!</p>
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		<title>By: montana</title>
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		<dc:creator>montana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What a mucking fess.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The same knuckleheads who brought us this greater than all other financial crises are proposing - no that is not right - are insisting that we once again hand over the keys to the car to them.  If, as a society, we accept this rather than standing firm, we truly deserve what we will get.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Democrats had better listen and follow Obama’s lead, in which I believe he has taken a thoughtful and brave stand.  There is a crisis, and it has to be immediately addressed.  But, it is not the perpetrators who need to be bailed out or cleansed or whatever the hell you want to call it.  We will see whom among us truly has the courage to fight for the future.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a mucking fess.</p>
<p>The same knuckleheads who brought us this greater than all other financial crises are proposing &#8211; no that is not right &#8211; are insisting that we once again hand over the keys to the car to them.  If, as a society, we accept this rather than standing firm, we truly deserve what we will get.</p>
<p>The Democrats had better listen and follow Obama’s lead, in which I believe he has taken a thoughtful and brave stand.  There is a crisis, and it has to be immediately addressed.  But, it is not the perpetrators who need to be bailed out or cleansed or whatever the hell you want to call it.  We will see whom among us truly has the courage to fight for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: kathyinstlouis1</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathyinstlouis1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If we’re going to have to do this thing, there certainly does need to be oversight.  Payback is also a consideration, these should be loan-term loans, not merely corporate giveaways. Even the car companies only want loans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A good way to pay for these is to sell the oil leasing rights offshore for some real big bucks.  I mean, if we are going to let the oil companies drill, make them pay big time.  Then we should have first rights to the oil produced, rather than these fat cats playing a world game. And the oil companies should be required to increase their refinery capacities, which they’ve been shrinking for the past 2 decades.  We need to become masters of our financial future here in America, not just victims of the corporate and big finance mindset.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we’re going to have to do this thing, there certainly does need to be oversight.  Payback is also a consideration, these should be loan-term loans, not merely corporate giveaways. Even the car companies only want loans.</p>
<p>A good way to pay for these is to sell the oil leasing rights offshore for some real big bucks.  I mean, if we are going to let the oil companies drill, make them pay big time.  Then we should have first rights to the oil produced, rather than these fat cats playing a world game. And the oil companies should be required to increase their refinery capacities, which they’ve been shrinking for the past 2 decades.  We need to become masters of our financial future here in America, not just victims of the corporate and big finance mindset.</p>
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		<title>By: TheShadowKnows</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheShadowKnows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1968-1973 POW&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2004-2008 POW&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Prisoner of “W”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Republican John McCain - seems to get the Stockholm Syndrome rather effectively.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1968-1973 POW</p>
<p>2004-2008 POW</p>
<p>Prisoner of “W”</p>
<p>Republican John McCain &#8211; seems to get the Stockholm Syndrome rather effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;John “Manchurian Candidate” McCain? Well, he is selling us out to the Chinese banks who are about the only ones that will have the assets to buy up these gov’t held bonds.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John “Manchurian Candidate” McCain? Well, he is selling us out to the Chinese banks who are about the only ones that will have the assets to buy up these gov’t held bonds.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree about the pressure from international investors. Who blinks first? If they start offloading Treasuries, they’re only hurting their long term prospects of getting their own investment back. The Middle East needs us to buy more oil. Then Chinese need us to buy more of their stuff. Like all debtors, we still have significant leverage.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the pressure from international investors. Who blinks first? If they start offloading Treasuries, they’re only hurting their long term prospects of getting their own investment back. The Middle East needs us to buy more oil. Then Chinese need us to buy more of their stuff. Like all debtors, we still have significant leverage.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;for whatever reason, the term “anrachy” has become a perjurative&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there is “anrachy” when people want the laws that protect only themselves&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can see where a group of people might think a particular government is malignant, they form their own set of “rules and regulations” that insure the greater good of their percieved brotherhood.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but that is not how the term has evolved, it is no a perjurative&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for whatever reason, the term “anrachy” has become a perjurative</p>
<p>there is “anrachy” when people want the laws that protect only themselves</p>
<p>I can see where a group of people might think a particular government is malignant, they form their own set of “rules and regulations” that insure the greater good of their percieved brotherhood.</p>
<p>but that is not how the term has evolved, it is no a perjurative</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;there is always some kind of compulsion, the compulsion of peer pressure which becomes the governing body, the compulsion of self preservation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;all a government is, the combining of brotherhoods, most natives support their government and the cumpulsion is in itself willing&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is always some kind of compulsion, the compulsion of peer pressure which becomes the governing body, the compulsion of self preservation.</p>
<p>all a government is, the combining of brotherhoods, most natives support their government and the cumpulsion is in itself willing</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wiki;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anarchism is a political philosophy encompassing theories and attitudes which support the elimination of all compulsory government,[1] i.e. the state. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wiki;</p>
<blockquote><p>Anarchism is a political philosophy encompassing theories and attitudes which support the elimination of all compulsory government,[1] i.e. the state. </p>
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