And while we see considerable outrage over the “play our way or we’re taking our ball” approach to money markets, there’s hardly a whimper as the same thieves act with the same disregard with people’s lives around the world.
The latest adventurism of the Bush administration – as we mentioned last week – is escalating in Pakistan – all while Bush talking heads assure the new Pakistani government that we would never, ever, really, never do any such thing:
In an official statement by the US embassy, spokesman Lou Fintor said, “Admiral Mullen reiterated US commitment to respect Pakistan’s sovereignty and to develop further US-Pakistani co-operation and co-ordination on these critical issues that challenge the security and well-being of the people of both countries.”
Well, hardly ever:
LAHORE: The United States drones continued their flights over various areas of North and South Waziristan on Friday, creating panic and fear among the locals. According to Express News, the US spy planes were seen flying over Ghulam Khan, Hamzoni, Ditta Khel and Mir Ali areas of North Waziristan and Angoor Adda and Mateen areas of South Waziristan. According to the channel, the continued drone flights have increased fear among locals, already worried about the security situation in their areas.
Meanwhile, back in those other sovereign nations Iraq and Afghanistan, the American air war remains deadly for civilians. In Afghanistan, where villagers are offering to dig up the remains of the 90 women and children killed in last month’s air raid and where another 5 children were killed just this past week, the results are all too clear:
"We are poor farmers. We had absolutely no opinion about America five years ago," says Sherafadeen Sadozay, who lost three children and his wife to an aerial attack in the Urozgan Province. "But now we don’t think America is here to help us. If the Taliban will bring peace, we will support them."
In Iraq on Friday, in a move horribly reminiscent of Sarah Palin’s wolf hunts, US forces bombed a civilian house then chased the 5 men and 3 women who fled the bombing by helicopter and shot them:
"The American forces surrounded my cousin’s house then they bombed it," he said. "I was watching from my roof through a hole in the wall. The American forces lit the place with flashlights. I saw my cousin with his wife escape from the back yard, when the American helicopter shot them and killed them immediately."
As Alexas says over at Never in Our Names:
American voters, don’t elect any more wanna-be messiahs, okay? They always take their hostages to misfortune along for the ride. That’d be us. And I for one want off the holy roller coaster.
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Good evening. Siun.
Sovereignty is whatever the Empire says it is.
But, Siun, according to new Bob Gates WaPo flack David Ignatius, the United State has changed our policy:
Because we don’t want anger undermining our war effort, right? Although it does sound as if this policy anticipates future “such accidents,” I suppose it’s too much to hope for a policy that, you know, ends “such accidents.”
Siun, Thank you. It seems to me that we have indeed gone totally and sadly crazy.
More on the effort to win hearts and minds, from Army of Dude:
Sounds tragically consistent.
Sovereignty is such a fluid concept when it applies to someone else’s country.
Ain’t Gates cool … once again, when the heat gets too much, we announce that we are changing the rules of engagement or we’ll be more careful or … or …
And as Gates was “apologizing” 5 more kids were killed and 2 different male civilians who strayed too close to international forces.
Just like as Mullen was saying “sovereignty Pakistan” our drones were flying over their villages.
gotta admire the ability to lie that much
Imagine living like this. I imagine it, though, because of all of the deadly military equipment we are selling other countries. Imagine having our communities treated this way by our own hand.
I do like Princess Sparkle Pony’s characterization of Bob Gates: “tiny but perfectly formed”
Sometimes ridicule is all we have left.
Now that is choice … I had forgotten PSP … need to read more often!
Aloha, Siun! I just finished up today’s post at M&C…! ;-)
Empire means never having to say you are sorry. Empire means everything you do is exactly for the wonderful motives you ascribe to your actions.
Sent an email to my army major efriend, with a link to the Islamabad Marriott bombing, saying that the U.S. bombing campaign in Pakistan appears to be successful.
Sorry to be so cynical. Don’t know any other relevant appropriate reaction to U.S. actions.
eCahn – had the same reaction
McCain is ruining my 60 minutes….. since when has McCain been deeply religious? What a crock….. if you want to see the
ranchestate…. the end of 60 minutes will give you a tour….. don’t see 12 hours or 13 cars but sure doesn’t look like anywhere in AZ…..Bet it doesn’t look like anything in Iraq either
Myself and Al the Spook think you’re right, eCAHN! In an interesting side note, Al had this to say to this article about US Marines at the Marriot unloading a bunch of steel boxes…
CT – that’s interesting since I heard on two non-US tv channels mentions of “US personnel” were presumed to be in the Marriot and may have been the target”
So desperate. So little understanding. I started communicating with this army major (whom I’ve never met but who is a HS classmate of a neighbor of mine) because she told me he hates the Iraq war. He was a Rumsfeld gofer for awhile and hates Rumsfeld. However, as time went on, I ran up against his pro-Israel bias (he’s Jewish) and after awhile, can’t date it but around the time when “the surge is working” he started accusing me of being anti-American because I hate the war and hate the military. I pointed out that war & military didn’t define U.S. to me, but then he went on to accuse me of not having a vision of serving something that is bigger than myself.
So sample of one, you can see what you we are up against in the U.S. military. And he’s much better than the average. I don’t email him much, but am now reserving zingers, like bombing campaign one, to poke him. It’s lame, but the only thing I can do.
Heh, besides the Marines, I’d heard there was one ‘unidentified’ high-level US Security Person… Intriguing, to say the least…!
When I was writing to a lot of soldiers in Iraq (early war days) I mostly stayed away from the issue of the war … there’s an essential investment I think that’s hard to break through?
Btw, Siun, did you see this outstanding essay by Col.(Ret.) Ann Wright at truthout…? Entitled: When Refusing to Kill Has a Higher Sentence Than Murder…
Well, duh. Of course the Marriott bombing was retaliation. What could be more apt? But don’t suppose you’ll hear anything of the sort from the U.S. foreign policy talking heads.
The Sarah Palin hand turkeys are pretty worthwhile.
Aloha, dave! Nice to see new faces, especially vets! I’m a twenty yr Vet myself… Not Nam, tho… I was in diapers then…! ;-)
What’s the difference between the MDC day of prayer and fasting and blogging on September 15, and the October 15 Blog Action Day for poverty? The latter is advertised on a lot of sites elsewhere (e.g. in Pakistan).
Of course, if soldiers choose military as a career, as is true for every army major, their life is invested in it. Even if he started out opposed to a stupid wrong terrible war, when it started to seem as if the U.S. would be “successful” he changed his mind.
I sent him a video of Baghdad concrete barriers, and he replied that he thought of them as “gated communities.” To put that in context, he does have a weird sense of humor.
I responded that yes, that exact thing had occurred to me: separation wall in Israel, Berlin Wall, concrete barriers in Baghdad, gated communities, all represented the same thing: FAILURE to solve the problem of normal decent people living together in peace.
He did not reply, needless to say.
Interestingly, when I worked on Wall St. I was never unaware of all its downside, and never failed to acknowlege valid criticisms, of which there are no shortage.
Wall St. was what I did, not who I was. Seemingly that distinction is rare.
So sick of hearing the republican candidate say WaRshington.
CT – thank you for that link! I had not seen it.
While working on tonight’s I ran across a piece from the Hartford Courant about a Green Beret who is being prosecuted for shooting a civilian in Aghanistan and then cutting off his victim’s ear …. http://www.courant.com/news/na…..9503.story
Suspect he’ll get the same less than serious treatment all the rest have gotten
Let’s squarsh him in November!
Good question – I don’t know but I think the support for MDG’s is coming from the religious communities who have kept much more attention on the Goals than most.
Seems worthwhile to do both, eh?
I used to play squarsh in my younger days.
These days I am freezing squarsh for the winter.
We need to warsh them out!
Honestly, I think the only reason he’s even being prosecuted is because he got carried away and cut off the ear, otherwise, I think the ‘Green Curtain’ would’ve been erected… Basically, the same premise as the ‘Blue Curtain’ cops erect…!
And I like marshed potatoes.
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All this interference in sovereign Pakistan territory is surely terrible … until January, when President Obama gets to call down hellfire missiles on sleeping Pahtun households, because he Bombs people for their Own Good!
And if you disagree, clearly you must be for McCain! Q.E.D!
As for the poor sleeping villagers in Afghanistan, harden your hearts, Firepups, because your Candidate has a lot more where that came from! After all, they are unfortunate enough to have been born on what is now the Central Front of the War on Terra!
My son is a major, could have been Lt Col but would have required more time in sevice. He fell in love with flying and was commissioned upon grad. He has served in afghanistan, pakistan and a bunch of other stans (that is a quote) with the invasion they were into Iraq a week before the invasion. He has since been back but is now in a non combat role. Things change and people are sucked along.
Air Force Major?
delurking to thank you Siun for the post and a quick bom dia to all the pups. Okay back to lurking *g*
Yes
foothillsmike … I found that in the folks I corresponded with, most had joined pre 9/11 for school money then found themselves in Iraq or Afghanistan – many seemed like very good folks – their willingness to suck it up and get on with things always stunned me as did their generosity of spirit in so many ways. No whiners that was for sure … I felt like we could all learn a lot from them. One sargent took the most amazing care for his men – and behind the scenes begged us to tell the world the war was a big mistake.
bom dia Wobbly!
Sergeant, Siun, a pet peeve of mine since I was an NCO…! The GI Bill was the sole reason I enlisted in ‘85…! ;-)
Yes, people are sucked along. How well put. I keep trying to put myself in my army major’s shoes. Quite impossible, but trying is better than not trying. His HS classmate does not know why he went into the military, but she thinks it was to “make things better.”
From what I’ve gathered, I think she’s right about him. But imagine being in the U.S. military and trying to make things better. Wow. What a moral dilemma.
At least on Wall St., I was just doing my own thing to do better analysis, just like I do here. Had no delusions about making a better world. From this little encounter with a military man, it makes me think that larger causes are curses, not blessings.
McCain has also become creepily smoothe in the skin category. Must have been botoxed, chem peeled and loofahed to hell. His eye skin is all tight.
Phony, phony, phony. But then again, nothing really matters anyomore, Truth has been expunged from the collective mind.
This experiment in democracy is gasping and turning blue.
-G
sorry for the OT,but my oh my!
The Big Question: 2+2=4?
The New York Times reports this evening that “foreign banks, which were initially excluded from the [Wall Street bailout] plan, lobbied successfully over the weekend to be able to sell the toxic American mortgage debt owned by their American units to the Treasury, getting the same treatment as United States banks.”
The Times further reports that two of the biggest foreign banks in need of such relief are Barclays and UBS. In fact, my understanding is that UBS is more on the line here than any other foreign bank.
Let’s add this up.
John McCain’s top economics advisor, who is widely believed to be his choice for Treasury Secretary, should he win in November, is former Sen. Phil Gramm. (Indeed, just last night his spokesman refused to say Gramm wouldn’t be McCain’s choice for Treasury Secretary.)
Gramm is both vice chairman of UBS’s US division and a lobbyist for UBS.
If UBS successfully lobbied over the weekend to get in on the bailout, what was Gramm’s role in the lobbying?
–Josh Marshall
It seems to me I am blathering?
light chemical peels,his face looks like an ass,in more ways than one
one has to take into consideration ,that Melanoma is a VERY serious diagnosis,McCain has had 4,it will be Prez Palin methinks
Why is the elephant the Republican symbol when they all look like asses to me?
Hmmm. Even more mosenary than I initially thought, which was thatthe inclusion of foreign banks was to protect U.S. financiers: China, India, Arabia. But if you are right, including foreign banks is just to protect rich westerners. Why am I not surprised?
Blather away, Ma Cherie! ;-)
Kiss him on all 4 cheeks?
Projection.
Not at all
Besides it doesn’t seem like they remember shit
brain bleach stat
Fat chance.
UBS ,,,the white elephant in ze rum
LOL
Republican Alzheimer’s: you forget everything except your grudges.
Beyond the shadow of a melanoma. Prez Palin it is. We gals are so thrilled to have her as first woman prez. Just about as thrilled as black guys had to be to get Tomas on SCOTUS.
Why do we keep letting the Rs do that to us?
Failure is not an option
See, told you I am blathering, or is it palavering? But u all encouraging me.
we love free association…”g”
ya know,after spending lots of time in Switzerland it occurs to me,the Swiss are more greedy than MERKINS
one of the reasons the theory of nonviolence (not the same thing as pacifism) originally appealed to me. i’ve been so very wrong about things in the past – it has to temper any certainty i can have now. but if i let that prevent me from acting on my current best judgement, then I’m shirking my responsibility.
the thing about nonviolence is that it has allowed me to act – but not by doing things that are likely to cause harm to people. which would be pretty horrible on it’s own… but, especially if tomorrow i changed my mind and decided i had been wrong.
So, the third firm I worked for on Wall St., First Boston, got acquired by Credit Suisse to become CSFB. After I left, CS absorbed FB, which them disappeared. Ironically enuf, my last boss’s boss, Brady Dougan, a FB survivor, is now CEO of all of CS. For about 2 years I had a standing Wed 7am group meeting with him. While he was the best I experienced at FB, that did not make him superior. It really focuses the mind when one has had extensive personal interaction with a CEO, and disrespects him.
let us not forget Europe and Presscott Bush Brown Brothers Harriman…same stunts different days
I have noticed in so many interactions that the army major’s only choice of action is military. He has had extensive training at military colleges, so I would have thought he would have tools other than the military hammer, and have told him so. He has emailed me great reading lists. But his blinders seem pretty firmly attached.
Brady Dougan, I think, is anything but white shoe. He ended up on top because he was the least stoopid, imo. But I could well be wrong, as, except for that weekly meeting, I was pretty much in the dark about what they were doing.
iirc..UBS did the high tech stock analysis,their analysts were riding the tech bubble too iirc
Henry Bloddgett?
nope he was not UBS or Warburg…bad memory
mine may be too. the more i learn about various military adventures, the more i don’t like them and want to find alternatives.