Comments on: Obama needs to suspend his campaign, return to Washington to propose his own Market Stabilization Bill http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:24:25 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: irishdave3 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641766 irishdave3 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:32:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641766 <p>or He could back the Sanders Plan or Bust <a href="http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/17295" rel="nofollow">http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/17295</a> Among Wall Street Walkers, the Secretary is know as Silk Hanky Paulson?</p> or He could back the Sanders Plan or Bust http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/17295 Among Wall Street Walkers, the Secretary is know as Silk Hanky Paulson?

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641660 MarkH Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:12:02 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641660 <p>On Obama: He should campaign to win the presidency, regardless of where he needs to be to do that. If that means front and center during a big Senate debate, then that’s fine. If it’s out on the stump that’s fine too.</p> On Obama: He should campaign to win the presidency, regardless of where he needs to be to do that. If that means front and center during a big Senate debate, then that’s fine. If it’s out on the stump that’s fine too.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641653 MarkH Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:06:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641653 <blockquote><p>Hanky Panky doesn’t have to answer to anyone.</p></blockquote> <p>That’s a non-starter. In our checks & balances system that’s not going to be allowed, however much Bush might like it.</p>

Hanky Panky doesn’t have to answer to anyone.

That’s a non-starter. In our checks & balances system that’s not going to be allowed, however much Bush might like it.

]]> By: rockclimber02 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641640 rockclimber02 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:52:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641640 <p>Obama has spent so little time in the Senate somebody would probably need to give him directions. Seriously, when was the last time he actually casted a vote?</p> Obama has spent so little time in the Senate somebody would probably need to give him directions. Seriously, when was the last time he actually casted a vote?

]]> By: BooRadley http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641631 BooRadley Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:30:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641631 <p>Thanks Ian.</p> <p>OfT If the Democrats let Wall Street have dime one, before Bush pulls all our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, they are effing nuts. If the GOP and Wall Street took this crisis seriously, that would be the first thing cut.</p> Thanks Ian.

OfT If the Democrats let Wall Street have dime one, before Bush pulls all our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, they are effing nuts. If the GOP and Wall Street took this crisis seriously, that would be the first thing cut.

]]> By: TheLurkingMod http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641630 TheLurkingMod Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:29:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641630 <p>Gently, folks.</p> Gently, folks.

]]> By: Coop http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641627 Coop Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:25:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641627 <p>To the extent that Obama has to sharpen his message, provide the occasional sound bite and stop overestimating the intelligence of the American People, you have a point, but David Broder is still David Broder and Clueless McSame is still Clueless McSame. </p> <p>He’s not a good debater. His entire shtick consists of “I was a P.O.W. 40 years ago. Make me President so I can fulfill my TR fantasies. </p> <p>He’s a damned fraud who’ll say anything and do anything to get elected. Falwell, Palin, etc, etc. </p> <p>If Obama was white, he’d be up by 15-20 points. He’s not, because, unlike the gops, 10 percent of the population won’t vote for a Black Man.</p> <p>Sadly, that’s just a fact of life. Obama still wins by 5-7 points if everybody gets out the vote, works their tails off and doesn’t take anything for granted. </p> <p>McCain can’t win. We can only lose if we cough it up and blow it. They need us to screw up. If we don’t, they’re toast, Obama is President, we have a Dem Congress, there’s no more scum on the Supreme Court and order is restored to the Universe.</p> <p>Face it, gops are scum in the best of times and these aren’t the best of times for gops. They’re gonna swiftboat like there’s no tomorrow because there’s no tomorrow for these schmucks. They know it. We know it. They’re not going to go quietly, but, unless we blow it, they’re going to go.</p> <p>Our fate is in our hands. So is theirs. </p> <p>Let’s put a stake through their fookin’ hearts, hold it up, show it to them, fungo it out of the yard and have a good laugh at their expense.</p> <p>Then we can bill their estates for our time and trouble and give ‘em a dose of their own.</p> <p>Given the past 25 years, it’s the least we can do.</p> To the extent that Obama has to sharpen his message, provide the occasional sound bite and stop overestimating the intelligence of the American People, you have a point, but David Broder is still David Broder and Clueless McSame is still Clueless McSame.

He’s not a good debater. His entire shtick consists of “I was a P.O.W. 40 years ago. Make me President so I can fulfill my TR fantasies.

He’s a damned fraud who’ll say anything and do anything to get elected. Falwell, Palin, etc, etc.

If Obama was white, he’d be up by 15-20 points. He’s not, because, unlike the gops, 10 percent of the population won’t vote for a Black Man.

Sadly, that’s just a fact of life. Obama still wins by 5-7 points if everybody gets out the vote, works their tails off and doesn’t take anything for granted.

McCain can’t win. We can only lose if we cough it up and blow it. They need us to screw up. If we don’t, they’re toast, Obama is President, we have a Dem Congress, there’s no more scum on the Supreme Court and order is restored to the Universe.

Face it, gops are scum in the best of times and these aren’t the best of times for gops. They’re gonna swiftboat like there’s no tomorrow because there’s no tomorrow for these schmucks. They know it. We know it. They’re not going to go quietly, but, unless we blow it, they’re going to go.

Our fate is in our hands. So is theirs.

Let’s put a stake through their fookin’ hearts, hold it up, show it to them, fungo it out of the yard and have a good laugh at their expense.

Then we can bill their estates for our time and trouble and give ‘em a dose of their own.

Given the past 25 years, it’s the least we can do.

]]> By: ratfood http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641609 ratfood Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:13:16 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641609 <p>No comparison of the two intended. I think Rod Serling was great. I was only suggesting that McCain has lost his grasp of reality, assuming he had one in the first place.</p> No comparison of the two intended. I think Rod Serling was great. I was only suggesting that McCain has lost his grasp of reality, assuming he had one in the first place.

]]> By: secularhuman http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641605 secularhuman Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:10:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641605 <p>no way he should suspend the campaign completely unless he is assured of getting massive media attention in Washington. but it is absolutely **crucial** that the Democratic response to Paulson and Bush goes through Obama. This is part of his job now, leading the Party, and this is a perfect opportunity to assume control and do the leading right out front. McCain is an outlier to the party he purportedly leads right now, but he will assume that mantle if his objections to the Bush-Paulson bailout are heeded.</p> no way he should suspend the campaign completely unless he is assured of getting massive media attention in Washington. but it is absolutely **crucial** that the Democratic response to Paulson and Bush goes through Obama. This is part of his job now, leading the Party, and this is a perfect opportunity to assume control and do the leading right out front. McCain is an outlier to the party he purportedly leads right now, but he will assume that mantle if his objections to the Bush-Paulson bailout are heeded.

]]> By: prostratedragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641550 prostratedragon Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:49:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/21/obama-needs-to-suspend-his-campaign-and-return-to-washington-to-propose-his-own-market-stabilization-bil/#comment-1641550 <p>I think I know what you mean rf, but note that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Serling" rel="nofollow">Rod Serling</a> was an honorable man who was devoted to the higher possibilities of this country that we advocate here at this blog. The generally dark stories were to wake up the audience to the horrors of the contrary possibilities.</p> <p>I very much doubt that Serling would be as bad an official as Phil Gramm, and certainly not as <i>deliberately and dishonorably</i> bad.</p> I think I know what you mean rf, but note that Rod Serling was an honorable man who was devoted to the higher possibilities of this country that we advocate here at this blog. The generally dark stories were to wake up the audience to the horrors of the contrary possibilities.

I very much doubt that Serling would be as bad an official as Phil Gramm, and certainly not as deliberately and dishonorably bad.

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