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	<title>Comments on: Hank Paulson&#8217;s Raid on the Treasury</title>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/20/hank-paulsons-raid-on-the-treasury/#comment-1640526</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How about this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The values of existing loans are tanking.  That’s the discipline of the free market.  So let’s set up a mechanism whereby homeowners can purchase their existing mortage at market value.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let mortgage holders offer the devalued mortgages that they want to unload on a government run ebay-like mechanism.  But, before a loan gets sold, the homeowner gets to buy it by matching the high bid, and we set up an institution to loan the homeowner the necessary funds to purchase his/her existing mortgage at market at reasonbly favorable terms.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this?</p>
<p>The values of existing loans are tanking.  That’s the discipline of the free market.  So let’s set up a mechanism whereby homeowners can purchase their existing mortage at market value.  </p>
<p>Let mortgage holders offer the devalued mortgages that they want to unload on a government run ebay-like mechanism.  But, before a loan gets sold, the homeowner gets to buy it by matching the high bid, and we set up an institution to loan the homeowner the necessary funds to purchase his/her existing mortgage at market at reasonbly favorable terms.</p>
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		<title>By: kozman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/20/hank-paulsons-raid-on-the-treasury/#comment-1640200</link>
		<dc:creator>kozman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is a typical Hank Paulson/Goldman Sachs operation. See the very insightful &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2007/10/does-goldman-sachs-run-world.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Does Goldman Sachs Run The World?&lt;/a&gt; for what these guys are up to.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a typical Hank Paulson/Goldman Sachs operation. See the very insightful <a href="http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2007/10/does-goldman-sachs-run-world.html" rel="nofollow">Does Goldman Sachs Run The World?</a> for what these guys are up to.</p>
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		<title>By: rkilowatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>rkilowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In view of the hustle for an “Emergency Bailout To Save The World”, I  would suggest that Paulson/Bernanke tell the POTUS and VPOTUS ” that I will ONLY sign 30 seconds after they both resign from office and President Pelosi is installed…Wouldn’t they agree? to save the world? Wouldn’t you agree if you were in that position?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In view of the hustle for an “Emergency Bailout To Save The World”, I  would suggest that Paulson/Bernanke tell the POTUS and VPOTUS ” that I will ONLY sign 30 seconds after they both resign from office and President Pelosi is installed…Wouldn’t they agree? to save the world? Wouldn’t you agree if you were in that position?</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/20/hank-paulsons-raid-on-the-treasury/#comment-1640004</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From Dean Baker, &lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/20/progressive_conditions_for_a_b/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Progressive Conditions for a Bailout&lt;/a&gt;. Good points to expand on in letters to congresscritters. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prospect.org/deanbaker/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dean’s blog&lt;/a&gt; is another good source for everyday economics commentary as well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Dean Baker, <a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/20/progressive_conditions_for_a_b/" rel="nofollow">Progressive Conditions for a Bailout</a>. Good points to expand on in letters to congresscritters. <a href="http://www.prospect.org/deanbaker/" rel="nofollow">Dean’s blog</a> is another good source for everyday economics commentary as well.</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/20/hank-paulsons-raid-on-the-treasury/#comment-1639976</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with your point here, jayt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Note that he doesn’t have to have dreamed it up himself. That’s what the help are for. Note, too, that the standard types of schemes are quite well-known, one only needs to find the one (or ones in this case, where several are nested and otherwise interlocked to provide different aspects of the mechanism) that fits the situation and tools one has on hand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What we’re victims of here could be called The Longest Con, after the terminology whereby a Big Con, Long Con, Big Store game, or some such, is a scam run through a special-purpose phony enterprise, like the fake gambling house used in  &lt;i&gt;The Sting&lt;/i&gt; to hook the Shaw character. Recall too how executing that scam involved a lot of subsidiary games, some of which were run on participants in the game in order to get them to do certain things naturally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A critical element of The Longest Con: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reloading_scam&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reloading Scams&lt;/a&gt;. Think of it as a kind of waterboarding.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your point here, jayt.</p>
<p>Note that he doesn’t have to have dreamed it up himself. That’s what the help are for. Note, too, that the standard types of schemes are quite well-known, one only needs to find the one (or ones in this case, where several are nested and otherwise interlocked to provide different aspects of the mechanism) that fits the situation and tools one has on hand.</p>
<p>What we’re victims of here could be called The Longest Con, after the terminology whereby a Big Con, Long Con, Big Store game, or some such, is a scam run through a special-purpose phony enterprise, like the fake gambling house used in  <i>The Sting</i> to hook the Shaw character. Recall too how executing that scam involved a lot of subsidiary games, some of which were run on participants in the game in order to get them to do certain things naturally.</p>
<p>A critical element of The Longest Con: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reloading_scam" rel="nofollow">Reloading Scams</a>. Think of it as a kind of waterboarding.</p>
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		<title>By: ubetchaiam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/20/hank-paulsons-raid-on-the-treasury/#comment-1639927</link>
		<dc:creator>ubetchaiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, I’m off to write more letters and alert others to this crappy(politely stated) legislation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I’m off to write more letters and alert others to this crappy(politely stated) legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/20/hank-paulsons-raid-on-the-treasury/#comment-1639893</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where are you seeing the text of the bill that you are referencing? 82 see 89&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are you seeing the text of the bill that you are referencing? 82 see 89</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/20/hank-paulsons-raid-on-the-treasury/#comment-1639889</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/welcome-to-the-final-stag_b_127990.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Larisa AlexandrovnaPosted September 20, 2008&lt;/a&gt; &#124; 08:11 PM (EST) BIO Become a Fan Get Email Alerts Bloggers’ Index&lt;br /&gt;
Welcome to the final stages of the coup…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larisa-alexandrovna/welcome-to-the-final-stag_b_127990.html" rel="nofollow">Larisa AlexandrovnaPosted September 20, 2008</a> | 08:11 PM (EST) BIO Become a Fan Get Email Alerts Bloggers’ Index<br />
Welcome to the final stages of the coup…</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ian, very good tell-spotting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is a scam, as the whole thing has been from the decision to use mortgages as the vehicle for robbing the middle class. That bankruptcy bill is another one of many tells. The quiet creation of a structure that got most of the risk off the balance sheets of the prime beneficiaries is another; one of the most insulting aspects of Paulson’s proposal is that many of the ultimate net recipients of those bailout funds have already made out like fat rats off the fee-generating side of the lending process.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, very good tell-spotting.</p>
<p>It is a scam, as the whole thing has been from the decision to use mortgages as the vehicle for robbing the middle class. That bankruptcy bill is another one of many tells. The quiet creation of a structure that got most of the risk off the balance sheets of the prime beneficiaries is another; one of the most insulting aspects of Paulson’s proposal is that many of the ultimate net recipients of those bailout funds have already made out like fat rats off the fee-generating side of the lending process.</p>
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		<title>By: ubetchaiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubetchaiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s a WSJ perspective on the money market mutual fund issue:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122186683086958875.html?mod=googlenews_wsj&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/.....lenews_wsj&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The possibility of businesses shutting down for want of funding, said Paul Schott Stevens, the Investment Company Institute president, was bracing for the government. He told Washington officials of the worry conveyed by his talks with executives this past week at dozens of fund firms.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So why don’t these firms have the cash to to address their financing needs? (strictly rhetorical question).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a WSJ perspective on the money market mutual fund issue:<br /><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122186683086958875.html?mod=googlenews_wsj" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/&#8230;..lenews_wsj</a></p>
<p>“The possibility of businesses shutting down for want of funding, said Paul Schott Stevens, the Investment Company Institute president, was bracing for the government. He told Washington officials of the worry conveyed by his talks with executives this past week at dozens of fund firms.”</p>
<p>So why don’t these firms have the cash to to address their financing needs? (strictly rhetorical question).</p>
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