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	<title>Comments on: Troy Eid And The Obama Plotters: It&#8217;s The Bloggers&#8217; Fault</title>
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		<title>By: Presto</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1636061</link>
		<dc:creator>Presto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I write anonymously.  I write speculative and science fiction novels.  My readers come from all walks of life, and both political parties.  I remain anonymous because my political ideology could affect the sale of my books.  I already don’t make enough money to feel secure, and I just can’t afford to risk my income by speaking openly about my politics.  Having said that, if anybody at Daily Kos (where I express my views) ever asked my my name or to provide a photograph, then I would do so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;David Eid’s failure to take the assassination threat as seriously as it indeed was points to his own gross incompetence.  It’s no wonder he would lash out at people he calls nameless and faceless.  Those are the only people he can get away with lashing out at.  If he referred to the very open and well known bloggers by name, the resulting fallout would be worse than the problems he already has.  He owes his frustrations all to himself, though, and deep down inside him somewhere he knows it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write anonymously.  I write speculative and science fiction novels.  My readers come from all walks of life, and both political parties.  I remain anonymous because my political ideology could affect the sale of my books.  I already don’t make enough money to feel secure, and I just can’t afford to risk my income by speaking openly about my politics.  Having said that, if anybody at Daily Kos (where I express my views) ever asked my my name or to provide a photograph, then I would do so.</p>
<p>David Eid’s failure to take the assassination threat as seriously as it indeed was points to his own gross incompetence.  It’s no wonder he would lash out at people he calls nameless and faceless.  Those are the only people he can get away with lashing out at.  If he referred to the very open and well known bloggers by name, the resulting fallout would be worse than the problems he already has.  He owes his frustrations all to himself, though, and deep down inside him somewhere he knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: DefendOurConstitution</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1635659</link>
		<dc:creator>DefendOurConstitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;David,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your reporting, even if you are not a face-less, nameless, lunatic blogger.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Thank you for your reporting, even if you are not a face-less, nameless, lunatic blogger.</p>
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		<title>By: neurophius</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1635654</link>
		<dc:creator>neurophius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Hackers_Expose_Palin_s_Legally_Questionable_Correspondence&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dugg it!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Hackers_Expose_Palin_s_Legally_Questionable_Correspondence" rel="nofollow">Dugg it!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1635642</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I am semi-nameless or perhaps semi-named but definitely faceless.  Here is my entry on the Obama assassination plot from my scandals list.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;380.  On August 24, 2008, the day before the Democratic National Convention began in Denver, Colorado, police arrested a white supremacist and meth head Tharin Gartrell after a traffic stop.  In his truck, authorities found two rifles, one with a scope, walkie-talkies, a bulletproof vest, and fake IDs.  This quickly led to the arrest of Shawn Adolf and Nathan Johnson.   The three had been doing meth in the Denver Hyatt with two women, one the underage girlfriend of Johnson.  According to this girlfriend, the men had been discussing ways to kill Barack Obama, the soon to be nominated Democratic Presidential candidate, whom they thought would also be staying in the Hyatt. (He wasn’t)  The men then considered smuggling a gun in a camera into Obama’s acceptance speech in INVESCO Field.  According to federal records, Adolf said, “It would not matter if he killed Senator Obama because police would simply add a murder charge to his pending charges.”  When asked if there were a plot, Nathan Johnson is reported as saying, “Looking back at it, I don’t want to say yes, but I don’t want to say no.”  Robert Sawyer who led the FBI investigation recommended that the men be charged with conspiracy to kill Obama.  Despite this, the US Attorney for Colorado Troy Eid, a Rove footsoldier who had done unreported lobbying for Jack Abramoff, refused to do so and declared, “The law recognizes a difference between a true threat — one that can be carried out — and the reported racist rantings of a drug addict,” and described the plot as “more aspirational, perhaps, than operational.”  The men will be held on drug, weapons, and other outstanding warrants.&lt;br /&gt;
	Eid’s actions, or rather lack thereof, raise two interesting questions.  Would he have done the same if these men had been discussing the assassination of a Republican, like George Bush or John McCain?  And would he have declined to press conspiracy charges if the men had had Middle Eastern sounding names instead of being homegrown domestic terrorists?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is the idea here that Eid is pining for the good old days when it was so much easier to bury a story and cover up ineptitude and inappropriate political decisions?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am semi-nameless or perhaps semi-named but definitely faceless.  Here is my entry on the Obama assassination plot from my scandals list.</p>
<blockquote><p>380.  On August 24, 2008, the day before the Democratic National Convention began in Denver, Colorado, police arrested a white supremacist and meth head Tharin Gartrell after a traffic stop.  In his truck, authorities found two rifles, one with a scope, walkie-talkies, a bulletproof vest, and fake IDs.  This quickly led to the arrest of Shawn Adolf and Nathan Johnson.   The three had been doing meth in the Denver Hyatt with two women, one the underage girlfriend of Johnson.  According to this girlfriend, the men had been discussing ways to kill Barack Obama, the soon to be nominated Democratic Presidential candidate, whom they thought would also be staying in the Hyatt. (He wasn’t)  The men then considered smuggling a gun in a camera into Obama’s acceptance speech in INVESCO Field.  According to federal records, Adolf said, “It would not matter if he killed Senator Obama because police would simply add a murder charge to his pending charges.”  When asked if there were a plot, Nathan Johnson is reported as saying, “Looking back at it, I don’t want to say yes, but I don’t want to say no.”  Robert Sawyer who led the FBI investigation recommended that the men be charged with conspiracy to kill Obama.  Despite this, the US Attorney for Colorado Troy Eid, a Rove footsoldier who had done unreported lobbying for Jack Abramoff, refused to do so and declared, “The law recognizes a difference between a true threat — one that can be carried out — and the reported racist rantings of a drug addict,” and described the plot as “more aspirational, perhaps, than operational.”  The men will be held on drug, weapons, and other outstanding warrants.<br />
	Eid’s actions, or rather lack thereof, raise two interesting questions.  Would he have done the same if these men had been discussing the assassination of a Republican, like George Bush or John McCain?  And would he have declined to press conspiracy charges if the men had had Middle Eastern sounding names instead of being homegrown domestic terrorists?</p>
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<p>Is the idea here that Eid is pining for the good old days when it was so much easier to bury a story and cover up ineptitude and inappropriate political decisions?</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1635582</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hippies acting peaceful at GOP convention lets crack heads. Meth heads with guns going after Obama.&lt;br /&gt;
    They don’t belong to no terrorist group they’re just good ol boys!&lt;br /&gt;
        I’m thinking that EiD’s last job was the Wassila Meth task force?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hippies acting peaceful at GOP convention lets crack heads. Meth heads with guns going after Obama.<br />
    They don’t belong to no terrorist group they’re just good ol boys!<br />
        I’m thinking that EiD’s last job was the Wassila Meth task force?</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1635581</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eid kept his job in the USAttorney purge carried out by Karl Rove’s minions.  Now we know why.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eid kept his job in the USAttorney purge carried out by Karl Rove’s minions.  Now we know why.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1635580</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you don’t investigate then you can’t use FISA to find out if they are terrorists. On the other hand what Prosecutor takes the word of an assassin  that yes they were working alone/there are no droids here!&lt;br /&gt;
    I’m thinking that even under the old rules any judge would give a warrant to spy on the meth heads friends and family.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don’t investigate then you can’t use FISA to find out if they are terrorists. On the other hand what Prosecutor takes the word of an assassin  that yes they were working alone/there are no droids here!<br />
    I’m thinking that even under the old rules any judge would give a warrant to spy on the meth heads friends and family.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1635576</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh!  the things you learn from faceless bloggers!  :]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh!  the things you learn from faceless bloggers!  :]</p>
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		<title>By: AZ Matt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1635575</link>
		<dc:creator>AZ Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought I was missing something there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I was missing something there.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/17/troy-eid-and-the-obama-plotters/#comment-1635574</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;EiD had better watch himself because if anything does happen to Obama and it turns out that racist meth heads are the new patsys/Oswalds this season then EiD will get the blame.&lt;br /&gt;
   EiD will get the blame even if the person is never caught, why because EiD never investigated and proved the meth heads were not part of a larger group.&lt;br /&gt;
    No Fox News jobs in your future, no corporate board jobs unless they are not afraid of a boycott, no think tank jobs because your rep will be so bad you will discredit Ann Coulter.&lt;br /&gt;
    But on the plus side I’m sure Henry will invite you to the House.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EiD had better watch himself because if anything does happen to Obama and it turns out that racist meth heads are the new patsys/Oswalds this season then EiD will get the blame.<br />
   EiD will get the blame even if the person is never caught, why because EiD never investigated and proved the meth heads were not part of a larger group.<br />
    No Fox News jobs in your future, no corporate board jobs unless they are not afraid of a boycott, no think tank jobs because your rep will be so bad you will discredit Ann Coulter.<br />
    But on the plus side I’m sure Henry will invite you to the House.</p>
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