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		<title>By: flatpickinJohn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/15/does-john-mccain-still-think-the-economy-is-fundamentally-strong/#comment-1632231</link>
		<dc:creator>flatpickinJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the Bush Doctrine of preemptive war which was greeted with accolades by many neoconservatives and protects us from the boogeyman and promises a Great American Empire has done little for our economy and our domestic policy…as Wall Street comes tumbling down. Four more years…four more years. God help us if McInsane wins!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Bush Doctrine of preemptive war which was greeted with accolades by many neoconservatives and protects us from the boogeyman and promises a Great American Empire has done little for our economy and our domestic policy…as Wall Street comes tumbling down. Four more years…four more years. God help us if McInsane wins!</p>
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		<title>By: greenharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An additional failure besides the dismantling of the financial markets’ regulatory structure has contributed to the mortgage &amp; related meltdowns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a basic failure to enforce the federal criminal law.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One huge factor in the savings and loan debacle of the late 1980s was fraudulent real estate loans.  In these, financial institutions knowingly lent more than properties were worth, based on fraudulent appraisals.  In order to dupe bank and S&amp;L examiners, the financial institutions then traded these loans, as they became non-performing, for new but not-yet-bad loans from other institutions.  It was known in Texas as trading a dead horse for a dead cow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congress attempted to forestall a repeat by hiking the penalty from 2 to  30 years in prison knowingly to make “any false statement or report, or willfully [to overvalue] any land, property or security, for the purpose of influencing in any way” any of a raft of federal financial institutions including “any institution the accounts of which are insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation” or any of a raft of other federal entities.  Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1014.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, practically every knowingly false statement for the purpose of obtaining a mortgage in the U.S. could be prosecuted as a 30-year federal felony.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’ve read that one factor in the current financial meltdown is that both mortgage applicants, and financial instutions eager to grant mortgages, have falsely stated applicants’ salaries, assets, etc. on a grand scale. (Sorry, I’ve still not learned to link.  But there’s been a lot published recently about this.)  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In other words, some unqualified mortgage applicants and some greedy financial institutions alike have been ripe for prosecution for violating Section 1014.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And just how many such prosecutions has the Bush Dep’t of Justice brought?  None of which I’ve read.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s hard not to think that, despite the shredding of the regulatory safety net, vigorous enforcement of Section 1014 would have headed off much of our current disaster.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An additional failure besides the dismantling of the financial markets’ regulatory structure has contributed to the mortgage &amp; related meltdowns.</p>
<p>It’s a basic failure to enforce the federal criminal law.  </p>
<p>One huge factor in the savings and loan debacle of the late 1980s was fraudulent real estate loans.  In these, financial institutions knowingly lent more than properties were worth, based on fraudulent appraisals.  In order to dupe bank and S&amp;L examiners, the financial institutions then traded these loans, as they became non-performing, for new but not-yet-bad loans from other institutions.  It was known in Texas as trading a dead horse for a dead cow.</p>
<p>Congress attempted to forestall a repeat by hiking the penalty from 2 to  30 years in prison knowingly to make “any false statement or report, or willfully [to overvalue] any land, property or security, for the purpose of influencing in any way” any of a raft of federal financial institutions including “any institution the accounts of which are insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation” or any of a raft of other federal entities.  Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1014.  </p>
<p>So, practically every knowingly false statement for the purpose of obtaining a mortgage in the U.S. could be prosecuted as a 30-year federal felony.  </p>
<p>We’ve read that one factor in the current financial meltdown is that both mortgage applicants, and financial instutions eager to grant mortgages, have falsely stated applicants’ salaries, assets, etc. on a grand scale. (Sorry, I’ve still not learned to link.  But there’s been a lot published recently about this.)  </p>
<p>In other words, some unqualified mortgage applicants and some greedy financial institutions alike have been ripe for prosecution for violating Section 1014.  </p>
<p>And just how many such prosecutions has the Bush Dep’t of Justice brought?  None of which I’ve read.</p>
<p>It’s hard not to think that, despite the shredding of the regulatory safety net, vigorous enforcement of Section 1014 would have headed off much of our current disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: change4MO</title>
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		<dc:creator>change4MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;today is the day our W04 president reports special financial announcements!!!&lt;br /&gt;
… we can hear the economic drain go gurgle gurgle gurgle!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WE NEED CHANGE!  WE NEED CHANGE now!   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;_./’._¢¬¢¬.•¢´**¢´•.¢¬.•¢´**¢´•..•¢´. .&lt;br /&gt;
*•. .•* *Obama/Biden o8!!&lt;br /&gt;
/.•*•. •¢´**¢´•.,.•¢´**¢´•.,.•¢´**¢´&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ummm, I think he tried to add some ’HOPE’ to this situation!  LOL&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>today is the day our W04 president reports special financial announcements!!!<br />
… we can hear the economic drain go gurgle gurgle gurgle!!</p>
<p>WE NEED CHANGE!  WE NEED CHANGE now!   </p>
<p>_./’._¢¬¢¬.•¢´**¢´•.¢¬.•¢´**¢´•..•¢´. .<br />
*•. .•* *Obama/Biden o8!!<br />
/.•*•. •¢´**¢´•.,.•¢´**¢´•.,.•¢´**¢´</p>
<p>ummm, I think he tried to add some ’HOPE’ to this situation!  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: STTPinOhio</title>
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		<dc:creator>STTPinOhio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;then there is every incentive for financial firms to make every possible loan, good, bad and indifferent, to capture the fees. Thus they don’t care if the loans will be repaid.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very late to this thread, but that would be a “Bingo”!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>then there is every incentive for financial firms to make every possible loan, good, bad and indifferent, to capture the fees. Thus they don’t care if the loans will be repaid.</p>
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<p>Very late to this thread, but that would be a “Bingo”!</p>
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		<title>By: leftdcin72</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftdcin72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanx, so the value of certain securties were way over valued as carried  on the balance sheet. I assume there were inadequate reserves as well. I really want to look into this as it pertains to Lehman Brothers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx, so the value of certain securties were way over valued as carried  on the balance sheet. I assume there were inadequate reserves as well. I really want to look into this as it pertains to Lehman Brothers.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That Luskin statement is from a WaPo0 Op-ed that was published yesterday.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Luskin statement is from a WaPo0 Op-ed that was published yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I’ve been wondering about the implications for AIG as an insurance company.  Are they going to be able to pay claims?  And they’re facing huge liability potential from Ike…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not good.  Not good at all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BC&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I’ve been wondering about the implications for AIG as an insurance company.  Are they going to be able to pay claims?  And they’re facing huge liability potential from Ike…</p>
<p>Not good.  Not good at all.</p>
<p>BC</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
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		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Watch for an AIG savior and a ramp job in the markets this afternoon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Buffett may realize that the entire industry and economy will collapse if he doesn’t step in.  He’s going to pay for the sins of AIG one way or the other.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch for an AIG savior and a ramp job in the markets this afternoon.</p>
<p>Buffett may realize that the entire industry and economy will collapse if he doesn’t step in.  He’s going to pay for the sins of AIG one way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yup.  That is the real “biggy”….all those people who just lost everything and they will never, ever be paid for their losses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The economy is just fab.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup.  That is the real “biggy”….all those people who just lost everything and they will never, ever be paid for their losses.</p>
<p>The economy is just fab.</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Someone who actually remembers 1928 said as much just yesterday.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone who actually remembers 1928 said as much just yesterday.</p>
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