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	<title>Comments on: New Obama Ads Hit McCain For Being So Out Of Touch With Average Americans</title>
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		<title>By: smith9898</title>
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		<dc:creator>smith9898</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The information you have gotten so far is on the mark,but the question becomes how do you get this to the OBAMA CAMPAIGN and put it in an AD. At the same time on a continous basis continue to slack Mccain Palin again and again and not let up. Obama can win this election,but not by being a nice guy. In other words he must float like a butterfly and sting like bee period.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The information you have gotten so far is on the mark,but the question becomes how do you get this to the OBAMA CAMPAIGN and put it in an AD. At the same time on a continous basis continue to slack Mccain Palin again and again and not let up. Obama can win this election,but not by being a nice guy. In other words he must float like a butterfly and sting like bee period.</p>
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		<title>By: richardCA</title>
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		<dc:creator>richardCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No ones mentioned why McSame showed up yesterday at the WTC with his wife.  No one else seemed to need a handler/walker along with them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding mentioning/not mentioning lies as well as fitness.  How about phrasing it along lines of ‘fitness’ (mentally and physically) and not able to ‘handle the truth’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No ones mentioned why McSame showed up yesterday at the WTC with his wife.  No one else seemed to need a handler/walker along with them.</p>
<p>Regarding mentioning/not mentioning lies as well as fitness.  How about phrasing it along lines of ‘fitness’ (mentally and physically) and not able to ‘handle the truth’.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LUV Bagnewsnotes.  Excellent site — worth serious perusal if you haven’t gone there yet.  I’ll wholeheartedly second that rec…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LUV Bagnewsnotes.  Excellent site — worth serious perusal if you haven’t gone there yet.  I’ll wholeheartedly second that rec…</p>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
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		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree totally.  The McCain campaign is Id driven.  Myth, images, and narratives are powerful tools in communication.  Words, language, and reason aren’t enough and it looks like the latter is what the Obama campaign and the Democrats rely on.  bagnewsnotes.typepad.com is a terrific site that sheds light on the politics of images.  Fascinating.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally.  The McCain campaign is Id driven.  Myth, images, and narratives are powerful tools in communication.  Words, language, and reason aren’t enough and it looks like the latter is what the Obama campaign and the Democrats rely on.  bagnewsnotes.typepad.com is a terrific site that sheds light on the politics of images.  Fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;that’s right.  forgot about that.  lol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;re:obama &amp; clinton — not too late for this, is it?  i don’t think.  i think jane raised te point uyesterday that this usually gets done after the primary.  but the primary went late and was very hard fought.  everybody would have l;iked the make-up to have been sooner but I don’t know if it ws realistic to exoect that.  it’s done (i think.  hope).  better late than never, i guess.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that’s right.  forgot about that.  lol.</p>
<p>re:obama &amp; clinton — not too late for this, is it?  i don’t think.  i think jane raised te point uyesterday that this usually gets done after the primary.  but the primary went late and was very hard fought.  everybody would have l;iked the make-up to have been sooner but I don’t know if it ws realistic to exoect that.  it’s done (i think.  hope).  better late than never, i guess.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, but that was prior to the ‘Great Dumbing-Down’, and the ‘vision’ which soundly defeated Goldwater, is now more likely to be seen as evidence of courage, resolve, moral strength and proof that a person possessing such&lt;br /&gt;
‘transcedent’ views is, indeed, an agent of Gawd Almighty.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where, once upon a time, reasonable and rational folks could figure or imagine far enough into the future to consider ‘consequence’, our present collective ‘location’ (culturally speaking) on the ‘Thought-Chain’ regards ‘consequence’ as something that ALWAYS happens to someone else.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The mere notion that bombs, for example’ might fall on American ’soil’ is not merely unthinkable but also beyond the pale.  Consider what such a thing would do to our notion of ‘fairness’?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It wouldn’t be ‘fair’, neither would it be ‘convenient’, and what would it do to ‘business as usual’?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let us face the truth.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;America is a fat, bloated, slob of a nation (the last ‘Great Empire’), which has just had its pockets picked, its legal system made into a mockery, its ‘principles’ pillaged, and its blood spilled all over the place, yet, the nation has, apparently, relished the adventure, thinking it happened to some other country, is barely wise enough to ‘know’ it is the greatest nation that ever wasn’t, and that whatever ‘Merkah’ wants, ‘Merkah’ gets …  and, if there is too much resistance to ‘Merkah’ having her way … she’ll just simply go nu-cu-lar.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As all GOOD ‘Merkans’ are going to Heaven, where heavenly McMansions await, and, presumably, in Heaven, ‘Merkans’ can just keep on acting the same old way, why would the ‘average’ ‘Merkan’ not want Palin’s finger on THE BUTTON?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe earth was ‘made’ for all of humankind, but Heaven is reserved for ‘Merkans’ of the right sort.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So it kindda doesn’t matter what happenes here, on Earth, any longer, when all these wonderful, righteous, folk is all giddy ’bout gettin’ ‘there’. (In their lifetime.  Hmmmm, I thought ya had to be daid to get ‘in’ but must be ‘they’ have figured out how to ‘take it with them’: “Get yore heavenly grubsteak in order, time’s awasting’, get your off-planet accounts in order and invest in YOUR personal future by buying bombs …”)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ain’t nothin’ like havin’ religious zealots and party-hardy boys at the helm when an Empire, as its sun sets, goes amok.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean, what’s the alterenative?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thoughtful, nuanced, more or less ‘reasonable’ human beings in charge?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No way!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;‘Merkah’, today, it appears would rather learn the ‘hard’ way or NOT AT ALL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Happy daze are here again …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but that was prior to the ‘Great Dumbing-Down’, and the ‘vision’ which soundly defeated Goldwater, is now more likely to be seen as evidence of courage, resolve, moral strength and proof that a person possessing such<br />
‘transcedent’ views is, indeed, an agent of Gawd Almighty.</p>
<p>Where, once upon a time, reasonable and rational folks could figure or imagine far enough into the future to consider ‘consequence’, our present collective ‘location’ (culturally speaking) on the ‘Thought-Chain’ regards ‘consequence’ as something that ALWAYS happens to someone else.</p>
<p>The mere notion that bombs, for example’ might fall on American ’soil’ is not merely unthinkable but also beyond the pale.  Consider what such a thing would do to our notion of ‘fairness’?</p>
<p>It wouldn’t be ‘fair’, neither would it be ‘convenient’, and what would it do to ‘business as usual’?</p>
<p>Let us face the truth.  </p>
<p>America is a fat, bloated, slob of a nation (the last ‘Great Empire’), which has just had its pockets picked, its legal system made into a mockery, its ‘principles’ pillaged, and its blood spilled all over the place, yet, the nation has, apparently, relished the adventure, thinking it happened to some other country, is barely wise enough to ‘know’ it is the greatest nation that ever wasn’t, and that whatever ‘Merkah’ wants, ‘Merkah’ gets …  and, if there is too much resistance to ‘Merkah’ having her way … she’ll just simply go nu-cu-lar.</p>
<p>As all GOOD ‘Merkans’ are going to Heaven, where heavenly McMansions await, and, presumably, in Heaven, ‘Merkans’ can just keep on acting the same old way, why would the ‘average’ ‘Merkan’ not want Palin’s finger on THE BUTTON?</p>
<p>Maybe earth was ‘made’ for all of humankind, but Heaven is reserved for ‘Merkans’ of the right sort.</p>
<p>So it kindda doesn’t matter what happenes here, on Earth, any longer, when all these wonderful, righteous, folk is all giddy ’bout gettin’ ‘there’. (In their lifetime.  Hmmmm, I thought ya had to be daid to get ‘in’ but must be ‘they’ have figured out how to ‘take it with them’: “Get yore heavenly grubsteak in order, time’s awasting’, get your off-planet accounts in order and invest in YOUR personal future by buying bombs …”)</p>
<p>Ain’t nothin’ like havin’ religious zealots and party-hardy boys at the helm when an Empire, as its sun sets, goes amok.</p>
<p>I mean, what’s the alterenative?</p>
<p>Thoughtful, nuanced, more or less ‘reasonable’ human beings in charge?</p>
<p>No way!!!</p>
<p>‘Merkah’, today, it appears would rather learn the ‘hard’ way or NOT AT ALL.</p>
<p>Happy daze are here again …</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe Cindy can pilfer some of her recipes and put them up on the McCain campaign website like she did with the other Food Network ones a while back.  *G*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I’d bet she and Bill both will be deployed where they can best be used to advantage with staunch supporters and folks who need the ego boo shove to the polls.  They are both quite good on the campaign trail — it was a mistake of Gore’s not to use them, so I’m glad to see whatever miscommunication was ongoing in the early stages after the primary is done and over with — it’s a good thing for everyone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There were a lot of rumor floating around — most of them utterly unsubstantiated and likely specious and designed to boost various reputations outside of the candidates themselves on both sides of the primary — but the bottom line was that the communication was crap between the top levels, and in all honesty from what I’ve heard a lot of the blame on that goes to Obama’s team for essentially ignoring a couple of outstretched hands from higher level folks on the Clinton team.  Which, after a hard fought primary and the level of exhaustion both sides had at that point, is to be expected, I think — but it was detrimental to hitting the ground running out of the gate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In any case, in this it’s likely my granny’s old saying of “least said, soonest mended” is the best course of action.  And if the Obamas and Clintons are at a bygones place (and if Hillary and Michelle’s really good interaction in Denver is any indication, they are), then who are any of us to keep pushing the BS?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I’d bet she and Bill both will be deployed where they can best be used to advantage with staunch supporters and folks who need the ego boo shove to the polls.  They are both quite good on the campaign trail — it was a mistake of Gore’s not to use them, so I’m glad to see whatever miscommunication was ongoing in the early stages after the primary is done and over with — it’s a good thing for everyone.</p>
<p>There were a lot of rumor floating around — most of them utterly unsubstantiated and likely specious and designed to boost various reputations outside of the candidates themselves on both sides of the primary — but the bottom line was that the communication was crap between the top levels, and in all honesty from what I’ve heard a lot of the blame on that goes to Obama’s team for essentially ignoring a couple of outstretched hands from higher level folks on the Clinton team.  Which, after a hard fought primary and the level of exhaustion both sides had at that point, is to be expected, I think — but it was detrimental to hitting the ground running out of the gate.</p>
<p>In any case, in this it’s likely my granny’s old saying of “least said, soonest mended” is the best course of action.  And if the Obamas and Clintons are at a bygones place (and if Hillary and Michelle’s really good interaction in Denver is any indication, they are), then who are any of us to keep pushing the BS?</p>
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		<title>By: GrandmaJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrandmaJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like the second ad better, it is straightforward.  Expect that the other ad might be better is many areas of the country, depending on the local demographics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the second ad better, it is straightforward.  Expect that the other ad might be better is many areas of the country, depending on the local demographics.</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hillary made a few appearances in central florioda on Monday.  talked to union people (and they ain’t easy to find here) gave a speech and raised some money and went to tampa.  she’ll be back i’m sure.  bill will be in the game, too.  i’m sure.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary made a few appearances in central florioda on Monday.  talked to union people (and they ain’t easy to find here) gave a speech and raised some money and went to tampa.  she’ll be back i’m sure.  bill will be in the game, too.  i’m sure.</p>
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