Comments on: Hurricane Ike May Dwarf Katrina In Wreaking Havoc http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:49:29 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: marymccurnin http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1628181 marymccurnin Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:59:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1628181 <p>My sister’s ex lost everything in Katrina and moved to Galveston. He is the type who is disinclined to leave. Crazy is another word for it.</p> My sister’s ex lost everything in Katrina and moved to Galveston. He is the type who is disinclined to leave. Crazy is another word for it.

]]> By: MsAnnaNOLA http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627916 MsAnnaNOLA Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:10:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627916 <p>We have flooding south of New Orleans. Places that flooded last week are having worse problems…</p> <p>I hope Ike fizzles before landing. This could be a doozy!</p> We have flooding south of New Orleans. Places that flooded last week are having worse problems…

I hope Ike fizzles before landing. This could be a doozy!

]]> By: Redshift http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627832 Redshift Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:55:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627832 <p>EPU’ed, I’m sure, but just fyi — fossil fuels cause global warming because they release carbon into the atmosphere that has been stored in solid/liquid form for millennia, which then causes the atmosphere to retain more energy from the sun, not because of the heat they generate directly. Any renewable source (even fuels made from agricultural products or waste) doesn’t cause warming because it’s just releasing carbon that is captured and released as part of the normal cycle of growth and decay.</p> <p>The amount of energy we extract from wind or geothermal is insignificant on the scale of climate. The reason fossil fuels are significant is that they “leverage” a much bigger power source, the sun, not because they affect climate directly.</p> EPU’ed, I’m sure, but just fyi — fossil fuels cause global warming because they release carbon into the atmosphere that has been stored in solid/liquid form for millennia, which then causes the atmosphere to retain more energy from the sun, not because of the heat they generate directly. Any renewable source (even fuels made from agricultural products or waste) doesn’t cause warming because it’s just releasing carbon that is captured and released as part of the normal cycle of growth and decay.

The amount of energy we extract from wind or geothermal is insignificant on the scale of climate. The reason fossil fuels are significant is that they “leverage” a much bigger power source, the sun, not because they affect climate directly.

]]> By: TwinpeaksnikkiSF http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627805 TwinpeaksnikkiSF Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:33:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627805 <p>I haven’t heard a peep from him on Ike. Maybe Superwoman could save the people who stayed.</p> I haven’t heard a peep from him on Ike. Maybe Superwoman could save the people who stayed.

]]> By: ccmask http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627798 ccmask Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:25:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627798 <p>Is McCain on his way to Texas yet?</p> Is McCain on his way to Texas yet?

]]> By: legaleagle88 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627795 legaleagle88 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:21:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627795 <blockquote><p>sorry to go all linguistic and I know you are just pasting a quote, but that quote is a contradiction of terms</p></blockquote> <p>That’s something you’d have to take up with National Geographic and Chris Sisco, a meteorologist at the National Hurricane Center, to whom the quote is attributed. </p> <p>But, I do apologize for linking to a story with a potentially contradictory quote.</p>

sorry to go all linguistic and I know you are just pasting a quote, but that quote is a contradiction of terms

That’s something you’d have to take up with National Geographic and Chris Sisco, a meteorologist at the National Hurricane Center, to whom the quote is attributed.

But, I do apologize for linking to a story with a potentially contradictory quote.

]]> By: bobschacht http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627793 bobschacht Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:20:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627793 <p>Thanks, Peterr! No wonder people wrote songs about it.</p> <p>Bob in HI</p> Thanks, Peterr! No wonder people wrote songs about it.

Bob in HI

]]> By: bobschacht http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627787 bobschacht Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:14:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627787 <p>There are other versions of the Galveston storm song, referring to the storm 100 years ago. This one may be the Chad Mitchell Trio version:</p> <blockquote><p><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2106588" rel="nofollow">Wasn’t That a Mighty Storm</a> (Galveston Flood)</p> <p>WASN’T THAT A MIGHT STORM</p> <p>CHORUS:<br /> Wasn’t that a mighty storm<br /> Wasn’t that a mighty storm in the morning, well<br /> Wasn’t that a mighty storm<br /> That blew all the people all away</p> <p>You know the year of 1900<br /> Children, many years ago<br /> Death came howling on the ocean<br /> Death calls, you got to go<br /> Now Galveston had a seawall<br /> To keep the water down, and a<br /> High tide from the ocean<br /> Spread the water over the town</p> <p>CHORUS</p> <p>You know the trumpets give them warning<br /> You’d better leave this place<br /> Now, no one thought of leaving<br /> ’til death stared them in the face<br /> And the trains they all were loaded<br /> The people were all leaving town<br /> The trestle gave way to the water<br /> And the trains they went on down</p> <p>CHORUS</p> <p>Rain it was a’ falling<br /> Thunder began to roll<br /> Lightning flashed like hell fire<br /> The wind began to blow<br /> Death the cruel master<br /> When the wind began to blow<br /> Rode in on a team of horses<br /> I cried, “Death, won’t you let me go”</p> <p>CHORUS</p> <p>Hey, now trees fell on the island<br /> And the houses give away<br /> Some they strained and drowned<br /> Some died in most every way<br /> And the sea began to rolling<br /> And the ships they could not stand<br /> And I heard a captain crying<br /> “God save a drowning man”</p> <p>CHORUS</p> <p>Death your hands are clammy<br /> You got them on my knee<br /> You come and took my mother<br /> Won’t you come back after me<br /> And the flood it took my neighbor<br /> Took my brother too<br /> I thought I heard my father calling<br /> And I watched my mother go</p> <p>CHORUS</p> <p>You know the year of 1900<br /> Children, many years ago<br /> Death came howling on the ocean<br /> Death calls, you got to go</p> <p>CHORUS</p> <p>CHORUS</p></blockquote> <p>Bob in HI</p> There are other versions of the Galveston storm song, referring to the storm 100 years ago. This one may be the Chad Mitchell Trio version:

Wasn’t That a Mighty Storm (Galveston Flood)

WASN’T THAT A MIGHT STORM

CHORUS:
Wasn’t that a mighty storm
Wasn’t that a mighty storm in the morning, well
Wasn’t that a mighty storm
That blew all the people all away

You know the year of 1900
Children, many years ago
Death came howling on the ocean
Death calls, you got to go
Now Galveston had a seawall
To keep the water down, and a
High tide from the ocean
Spread the water over the town

CHORUS

You know the trumpets give them warning
You’d better leave this place
Now, no one thought of leaving
’til death stared them in the face
And the trains they all were loaded
The people were all leaving town
The trestle gave way to the water
And the trains they went on down

CHORUS

Rain it was a’ falling
Thunder began to roll
Lightning flashed like hell fire
The wind began to blow
Death the cruel master
When the wind began to blow
Rode in on a team of horses
I cried, “Death, won’t you let me go”

CHORUS

Hey, now trees fell on the island
And the houses give away
Some they strained and drowned
Some died in most every way
And the sea began to rolling
And the ships they could not stand
And I heard a captain crying
“God save a drowning man”

CHORUS

Death your hands are clammy
You got them on my knee
You come and took my mother
Won’t you come back after me
And the flood it took my neighbor
Took my brother too
I thought I heard my father calling
And I watched my mother go

CHORUS

You know the year of 1900
Children, many years ago
Death came howling on the ocean
Death calls, you got to go

CHORUS

CHORUS

Bob in HI

]]> By: Peterr http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627783 Peterr Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:12:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627783 <p>Houston Chronicle reports that the <a href="http://blogs.chron.com/hurricanes/2008/09/more_than_5000_inmates_are_eva.html" rel="nofollow">inmates in coastal prisons</a> have been relocated.</p> Houston Chronicle reports that the inmates in coastal prisons have been relocated.

]]> By: Peterr http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627782 Peterr Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:09:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/12/ike/#comment-1627782 <p><a href="http://www.1900storm.com/" rel="nofollow">More on the 1900 Galveston hurricane here</a> (also linked in the post above)</p> <p>Here’s a taste: 8,000 to 12,000 dead in the deadliest US hurricane ever.</p> More on the 1900 Galveston hurricane here (also linked in the post above)

Here’s a taste: 8,000 to 12,000 dead in the deadliest US hurricane ever.

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