E-nuff!!!!

There needs to be a quick response. As Joe Biden once said: “This is bullshit. This is malarky.”

Say it! Keep saying it!

Dishonest! Liar! No honor (like in dishonest)!

The McCain campaign is entering the Rovian underworld in an attempt to make it close enough for the dirty voting tricks to work. If they can take potential battle ground states like Indiana and Colorado off the map, then they can go right back to the same well and game the system in Ohio and Florida where they’ve already got the mechanisms in place.

Say it loud! They are Liars!

Thanks Christy (and thank you for your post on women’s choice issues the other day–I’ve forwarded the link multiple times)

Christy!

Sorry for the O/T. Want it on top of comments if that’s OK.

Patriots, had enough?!

1. Register to vote
and
2. (VERY IMPORTANT) verify your voter status.
You can do that here and click on your state.
http://www.votesmart.org/voter…..ources.php

no more shenaningans at the polling stations. Use your power!

The only record the Republicans have is one of disasters and lies about those disasters so they have only two options: change the subject or lie some more. Palin is an example of changing the subject. This and any other policy issue they have to lie about if they talk about it at all.

McSame wants to talk about sex education? Fine. How’s that abstinance only thing working for you, Gov. Palin?

Honestly. This is why we shouldn’t ignore Palin ’s family. There are legitimate policy issues there. Attack, Attack, ATTACK!!

love that cheesy-smile picture they use of McCain in that ad.

McCain revealed to be the grasping power hungry egotist he really is, he’ll sink as low as he can go to get the title POTUS

Wow, You had your Wheaties today. You must have been a tiger in the courtroom. Bravo

Nice touch to your campaign, flyboy.

Ummm…problem is that I just heard a soundbyte from the New Hampshire primary debates in which he and Edwards just said they supported it and Obama said they had already talked to their six and nine year old…

The Obama spokesman’s response quoted in the McClatchy piece came out right after McCain’s crapola ad went out yesterday. And Obama said this in a townhall this morning:

“Before we begin today, I want to say a few words about the latest made-up controversy by the John McCain campaign. What their campaign has done this morning is the same game that has made people sick and tired of politics in this country. They seize on an innocent remark, try to take it out of context, throw up an outrageous ad because they know that it’s catnip for the news media. Some of you may have — I’m assuming you guys heard this watching the news, right? I’m talking about John McCain’s economic policies. I said it is more of the same. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig. And suddenly they say, oh, you must be talking about the governor of Alaska. See, it would be funny — it would be funny except, of course, the news media all decided that that was the lead story yesterday. They’d much rather have the story – this is the McCain campaign – would much rather have the story about phony and foolish diversions than about the future. This happens every election cycle. Every four years this is what we do.

We’ve got an energy crisis. We have education — we have an education system that is not working for too many of our children and making us less competitive. We have an economy that is creating hardship for families all across America. We’ve got two wars going on. Veterans coming home not being cared for. And this is what they want to talk about. This is what they want to spend two out of the last 55 days talking about. You know who ends up losing at the end of the day? It’s not the Democratic candidate, it’s not the Republican candidate – it’s you, the American people. Because then we go another year or another four years or another eight years without addressing the issues that matter to you. Enough. I don’t care what they say about me. But I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and swiftboat politics. Enough is enough.

…

So spare me the phony outrage. Spare me the phony talk about change. We have real problems in this country right now. And the American people are looking to us for answers, not distractions, not diversions, not manipulations. They want real answers to the real problems that we are facing. That’s the kind of debate that I intend to have because that’s the kind of debate the American people deserve. And that’s what — that is what you deserve and that’s what you’re going to get for the next 55 days.”

The only record the Republicans have is one of disasters and lies about those disasters so they have only two options: change the subject or lie some more. Palin is an example of changing the subject. This and any other policy issue they have to lie about if they talk about it at all.

This is good stuff. I wish Obama and his proxies would use that line. very hardhitting and to the point.

Honour – a keen sense of ethical conduct; integrity

Just one of the many traits missing from McSFB’s personality.

I still wanna know how McCain faces Bridget(his adopted daughter)after throwing in with the nasty pieces of work who used her as part of a whisper campaign to put Bush in office. Honest to god,how could you explan that to your kid? Or justify it in the least?

This is a Rovian strategy that attacks the strengths of the opponent (or an issue on which one’s own candidate is weak). We need to hammer McSame/Palin on sex ed. Rove fears it.

Lairs piss me off. Can you tell? Manipulative liars even more so…

Someone sounds scared.

Were you the kid in class that pointed a finger and told the teacher on everyone? That’s not how you win elections.

Christy:

Did you see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

Unlike Obama, McCain was in fact speaking of Hillary, SPECIFICALLY.

ooh, I just watched the video. I like how suddenly the Bush cutout sidles up to the McCain cutout. Pow!

I also like how the voiceover completes the text on the ad. Sometimes voiceovers say something to contradict the text and it ends up being confusing, almost positive for the opponent. this one is straight ahead.

good job.

heard snippets of that BO reaction. the whole rthing is better. but they can only show snippets. the debate is shaping up to be very interesting.

I think you’re lying. :P

Talked to them about what — bad touch protection? I hope so — I’ve already talked to my 5 year old about it as well. Want to know why? I used to prosecute sexual predators and I’ll be damned if my child is walking out in public without whatever information she needs to stay safe if I can help it,

Had it up last night and today — yep, we saw it.

Obama honorable? “brother’s keeper”?

How’s his half brother doing in his hut?

It will be interesting….watching Obama without his teleprompter. I’m ready for the stutters, the ummmms, uhhh, ahhh’s. Should be great entertainment.

Ahhhhh…I see. Getting paid to do the McCain campaign responses in the comments today, or just a true believer?

Thanks, Christy. It’s nice to see that push back is coming from Obama, from his supporters (including your work here) and even from the press. That McClatchy piece is great and they even use football language to help the low info voter. It also was put up very quickly yesterday.

I couldn’t resist my own addition to the talk about piggies.

Also, have you taken the Senator Hothead quiz? I only scored a 10 out of 15. Time to study his temper some more…

Interesting that the media is completely unaware of it to provide balance to their story, eh?

NOT!

My analogy of the day is that the GOP is selling us worse than a used car. They are selling us lemons. And shame on us if we don’t put in the energy to research our purchasing decision. This isn’t an impulse buy of a candy bar or a, a lipstick color (ahem). This is a long term decision like buying a car or even a house.

Don’t throw away your hard earned tax dollars on a shoddy lemon that has the lowest rating in the Consumers Digest.

I went to the site and clicked on Texas, but didn’t see anywhere to verify my status. Is it on the Texas site?

Thieves and liars, the two lowest human life forms. What about killers, you say? Killers are the ultimate thieves. Not only do they take a life, they take that person’s dreams and hopes away, they take away the hopes and dreams of that person’s family, the list goes on.

By supporting the invasion and occupation of Irak and Afghanistan McSFB is a liar AND a thief.

Lairs piss me off. Can you tell? Manipulative liars even more so…

i am so with you on this one. we can disagree on all kinds of political issues – but honesty ought to be one of the things we demand from our politicians. if we held them accountable for lying, maybe we could get them to tell the truth more often.

Aren’t all liars manipulating the truth?
I’m becoming convinced that there really are two Americas. I don’t see how either side can communicate effectively with the other.

Great to have such a fine American on board. Welcome.

That’s better defense, but it’s still defense. Obama needs to attack (but he won’t).

Great to have such a fine American on board. Welcome.

Nope, just entertaining myself by stirring up the radicals and their fear mongering.

I applaud you for actually writing something about McCain though. Maybe the bloggers got the message yesterday that constant blogs about Palin or not ineffective in defeating McCain, and actually give him an advantage by staying out of the negative spotlight.

The majority is soooo on our side on this issue. Fight, fight, fight!!

I dunno. How you doing in your cave?

Now there’s some real “free speech” and “debate.”

Oh mods let it go. It’s like a fly buzzing–when it can’t find anything sweet it just goes back to its shitpile.

Agree wholeheartedly on that one.

I dunno. How you doing in your cave?

Waiting for my hypocritical half brother to send me a check.

I’m finally starting to get just how important it is that the Obama campaign call out McCain as being a man without honor every time he does something like this.

Over the weekend I came across a couple of blog posts by Paul Rosenberg that I’ve been finding very helpful in thinking about why the election is so close. These are A Four-Fold Vision of American Politics and From ‘Bitch-Slap’ To ‘Gaslight’ — Grokking The GOP Game.

The articles are based on insights taken from the book Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America by David Hacker Fischer. The book presents four cultural traditions that came to North America from Britain and Rosenberg uses these to shed light on the nature of our political cultures and the current presidential campaign.

The second article ends with this (emphasis in original):

It’s that fighting attitude at the core of Borderer culture that makes them so accessible to the arguments of conservative ideology, even when their class interests are sharply at odds. Of course, working-class whites still tend toward the Democratic Party nonetheless–Thomas Frank was mistaken on this point–but they are subject to intense cross-pressure, which is considerably relieved when liberals/Democrats stand up and fight for what they believe, and stand up and fight for them.

Now it should be obvious at this point that Sarah Palin is a Borderer, and that her nomination powerfully taps into this centuries-old matrix of cultural tensions. But even if the irrational, antagonistic core of Borderer culture is antithetical to the Quaker core of liberalism, it does not mean that unconditional war is necessary. Indeed, figures like Steve Earle–far more than James Webb, IMHO–show quite powerfully that strong, and powerfully fruitful connections exist, and we must stand by them particularly when confronted by the likes of a Sarah Palin.

We need to fight just as hard as they do. And we need to fight twice as clearheaded. We need to call out their lies, each and every one, because every lie they throw in our face is–in terms of their culture–an insult to our honor.

And if we will not defend our honor, then we will not command respect, and nothing else we do will matter.

For me, this helps explain why the Republicans where I work couldn’t care less about Palin’s qualifications. Quite literally, the ability to spew an unending stream of total contempt right in the faces of liberals (aka socialists aka communists aka Democrats) is all the qualification they need to think she’s great, and nevermind all the lies. It’s the contempt that matters. (In fact, the lies are the contempt.)

Curiously, as Republican athiests (what a concept!), they also seem truly unaware that their party includes a sizeable core of apocalyptic fundamentalists who are now so powerful they’ve been able to force the selection of one of their own for VP. I mean, millions of people, steeped in the writings of Hal Lindsey and Tim LeHaye, must be marvelling at the way God has used even the likes of John McCain to serve His “great purpose.” And if they win, and McCain dies in office, it will be taken as a sign of the Lord’s wise and loving hand in positioning His Servant, Sarah (mark the names – John and Sarah – even that will be seen as divinely significant by these folks) to lead the faithful of our nation through the difficult and violent times of the Tribulation prior to the Rapture.

And the guys I work for, who literally regard voting for Democrats as equivalent to giving an eight-year-old the keys to the family car and saying, “Have a nice time, honey, try to be back by midnight,” haven’t got a clue.

“You can’t make this stuff up” is becoming the motto for our age.

Oops, I think your “friend” is gone in a puff of burned up peanut oil.

I’m becoming convinced that there really are two Americas. I don’t see how either side can communicate effectively with the other.

is it my imagination or is it getting harder to listen to people who disagree with us?

I get it. You’re here to promote a honest exchange.

I’ve already had that talk with my four year old. His doctor even brought it up. “I’m going to check your pe*is. It’s okay because I’m your doctor and your Mom is right here.”

where does he get that stuff?

Do I smell a troll?

Here’s the issue. You can’t attack McCain’s honor, it’s not possible to persuade the average american that he is not honorable, his military record speaks for itself.

The most effective way to defeat McCain is to fight him on policy, specifically economic policy (which I actually disagree with him on, too moderate for me). That’s where his weakness is. Any other approach will prove to be ineffective.

I’ll go check it out. thanks for the heads up.

Texas (hmmm…) :]

Jeepers. The Obama campaign launched an ad questioning John McCain’s long record of undercutting education in conjunction with a series of speeches that Obama has been doing on his education proposals. You can see the ad at right.

In response, the McCain campaign went apeshit

I guess education must be polling very well according to the GOP’s polling.
I guess abolishing the Dept of Education will be an applause line the GOP will only use in front of prescreened for loyalty, no press, rallies/fundraisers.

Outta his feces covered ass.

(From Think Progress) Give Crazy John a break. He also has to fight the War Against Mother Nature which no one even knows about. It is hard enough fighting the Battle of Civilizations, especially with all those laws and bureaucrats. The bureaucracies are the Number One Killer, worse than Al Qaeda. Robert Stephan, DHS assistant secretary for infrastructure protection, said

“I think one of the biggest impediments I’ve had to deal with is our own structure, our own set of laws, regulations, policies, authorities, people worrying about turf, their own personal turf, their own agency turf instead of the country and the adversaries, the threats and the hazards we face,” Stephan said. “That still remains to me, in my mind, the No. 1 killer in the United States is entrenched bureaucracies that focus more on themselves than they do the collective good.”

It is far out to say bureaucrats are more clever than Al Qaeda. “In fact, they’re more clever than al Qaeda in many respects,” Stephan said. “And that’s a pretty far-out statement, but it’s true.”

But Bureaucrats are impeding the War on Terror, and also the Secret War Against Mother Nature, “those are the people that impede progress in the war on terrorism and the war on Mother Nature. And we have to figure out a way to overcome that.”

Obama needs to attack (but he won’t).

it doesn’t help for one liar to call another liar on his lies. it’s got to come from someone with the credibility to do it effectively.

Yours is 5? Wow. Time flies. It’s not at all hard to teach. They understand. I just don’t get how McCain can be opposed to that. Palin, yes. I can understand that. Ignorance only.

The same old one assigned to be here by the Republics.

He probably siphons it from the tanks in back of McDonald’s late at night.

Our pediatrician does that, too. I think if folks are NOT having that conversation with their kids, it’s irresponsible. You do not want to know the things that I saw during my work as a guardian ad litem for kids in abuse and neglect situations and as a prosecutor. But trust me when I say, it still gives me nightmares.

Which is exactly why my child will be armed with whatever information keeps her safest. And why we are considering some karate lessons for her, too.

ooch. hey SoD.

Glad to see most are taking the appropriate step of denying it sustenance.

EXCELLENT. Well Done!

Thanks for that bit of fun. I got 9/15 and missed an obvious one.

Here you go:

http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/index.shtml

It has a “Am I Registered?” linky. Let me know how it works out for you. thx.

I found this by going to the bottom of the Texas page at the votesmart site. The key is to get to your Secretary of State website (whichever state you are in) and go from there.

I’d recommend that. it’s practical, helps their confidence and they have fun.

On a side not.

In a magazine (I think it was People, not sure). Ty Pennington (the guy from extreme makeover home edition, who also has a DUI) was in an ad for simplex (the baby formula). Where is MADD on this?

My two cents: Obama shouldn’t have “responded” to “lipstick on a pig”, he just should have kept repeating it, with variations. I mean, it gets the point across.

But he should respond in some personal way to being accused of being an oversexed mandingo child molester.

Fiore cartoon – Fun With John & Sarah

It really struck while I was watching the Republican Convention. Hit me hard and left a bad taste. Some of the female delegates were so completely issueless, I couldn’t even imagine trying to talk to them.
I’m not impressed that someone has a job and raises kids at the same time, and then, oh yeah, takes them to extra-curricular activities. Did that for 20 some years. Doesn’t make me ready for national office.
I think we have to have some small place of mutual need or understanding in order to communicate and that’s what I questioning.
So, yes, I’m having a harder time.
How about you?

Cutting education? So this is why they think we’re stupid!

i made the one remark about the cave, but that’s it for me. he hasn’t been here for awhile. probably tyoping up something long. or off to another librul site.

That is precisely the prescription to lose on. People aren’t hearing policy. They are SEEING a fight.

So, yes, I’m having a harder time.
How about you?

yes. a lot.

Hey BL. In his military fantasy Dragonmaster, Chris Bunch compares a dragon’s breath to the odor of rotting dead sheep. The only thing worse, imo, is the stench of a troll. No balls, no brains, just stench.

Any other approach will prove to be ineffective.

what are you basing that conclusion on? is there some data? or if that has been your personal experience, could you say something about that? thanks.

When McCain reacts by going apeshit is very instructive it tells us where he is afraid of getting hurt. so obviously we should talk about education more and McCain’s lack of support on the issue.
By the way where did McCain’s son the bank failure go to school public or private? How many CEO’s of failing companies went to private school vs successful businessmen who made their own money and went to public school?
After the first generation of making a bundle people tend to send their kids to private school for some reason.

Agreed. I’ve had my kids in Kung-Fu for years (should probably do it myself). They know how to protect themselves and they know how to strike and handle themselves in a fight. Most importantly, they know that they can, and so they don’t have to. Confidence scares bullies.

The Obama/Biden campaign is starting to project that attitude more vocally and it’s good to see!

And when is a Dem 527 going to put this clip to an ad — it clearly illustrates what liars and hypocrites that the McCain/Palin ticket is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

People aren’t hearing policy. They are SEEING a fight.

maybe that’s all they’re being shown? as ian said, american idol.

Wow, lots of “don’t feed the troll posts”.

Just because your posts aren’t directed towards me does not mean I’m not being fed….

Whatever happened to Obama’s “clean politics, focus on the issues” approach? I respected that. Now he’s campaigning like Mrs. Clinton. You would think he would learn a lesson from her experience.

Thanks, that one is really funny.

Now now. *g*

But I think you’re wrong on the substance of this one. There’s plenty of stuff in McCain’s record for Obama to attack, without having to lie himself. It’s about establishing the frame for the other candidate.

Liberals are fighting a war that they can’t win using their current strategy. John McCain’s weakness is not his honor, it’s his policy. Attack the weakness first, otherwise you’re just wasting time. Many variations on this in The Art of War.

i think the idea is supposed to be that yopu doing it for 20 years is the whole point. see. she’s just like you. get it? why in god’s name some people have to have someone “just like them” in any elected office is beyond me. you recognize and I recognioze that doesn’t qualify someone for national office. But to those women, it’s almost a requirement.

harder to listen to people who disagree? I wish I’d hear disagreement that I copuld talk to someone about instead of just lies about Obama, name calling of Biden,”hero” worship of McCain.

Ari Melber had a great piece yesterday evening on the “all they are being shown” angle that was very instructive re: a view from the media bus. I recommend the read very highly…

This is some of the clearest evidence to date that McCain is not simply amoral, as unscrupulous pols are frequently described but completely immoral. He doesn’t simply misrepresent the facts, the ad not so subtly implies that his opponent might in fact be a predator himself. Even if his record were not abundant proof regarding his lack of fitness, this ad should disqualify McCain from all future service including in the Senate.

should probably do it myself

For the discipline and meditative qualities if nothing else. Combined with yoga it makes for a very confident and thoughtful individual.

http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publ…..izing.html

One thing else I have to say about communication is you have to care. Whether it’s about educating your child about strangers, inappropriate physical or verbal contact or sex education or what it means to be a good person, lecturing is not communication. When a parent asks Do you have homework and the kid says no, ah come on. We need to sit down and have two way conversations. We have to ask questions that encourage a response.
That even works well here, don’t you all think? :)

There’s plenty of stuff in McCain’s record for Obama to attack, without having to lie himself.

oh, absolutely – that’s not what i meant. just that it would be more effective if it was done by someone with a history of honesty (which obama does not have).

You are welcome! Fiore is on target as usual.

I agree with you demi, except I would have asked an open ended question at the end of your comment ;)

Good observation/point/etc.

LOL.

remember those little troll dolls? with the long hair that stuick straighht up? like Don King? neither here nor there. just thought of it when you mentioned trolls.

Yeah! We were lazy not stupid but things have gotten so bad under Bush the lazy voters are getting off the couch to vote the GOP can’t win high turnout elections.
The GOP can’t win on the issues.
The GOP isn’t leading in the polls either because the McCain Polls are Special.

its first stable lead over Obama and Biden. Gallup’s tracking poll, USA Today and CBS News all show the Republicans with some kind of lead over the Democratic ticket. But, interestingly, all three polls were also conducted using a higher sampling of Republican voters than in July, raising a question of methodology.

In a year in which Democrats have a lead of 11 million registered voters over Republicans, and have been adding to that advantage through a robust field operation, are pollsters over-sampling Republicans?

Despite a raft of advantages in the electorate for Democrats, in September’s first Gallup tracking poll, an equal number of Republicans and Democrats were surveyed (including “leaners”) from Sept. 3-5, compared to a 10-point Democratic identification advantage two weeks ago. That partisan makeup of the polling pool resulted in a 5-point lead for McCain in Sept. 5 tracking poll. Meanwhile, the new CBS poll features a 6-point swing in partisan composition toward Republicans, which plays some role in the poll’s two-point lead for McCain. Finally, the latest USA Today poll, which claims a four-point edge for McCain, was arrived at after a 10-point swing in partisan makeup toward GOP respondents.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..25158.html

My Bold Everyone has been wondering about the MSM polls being neck and neck it seems that we were right to wonder:)

My comment @ 84 was in reference to the attack ad McCain released yesterday.

FWIW, John McCain is running a scurrilous, smear-laden campaign.
His honor as a pilot is not the issue – his ethics and craven intent as a politician are.

This isn’t a family thing, where his wife and kids are off limits – this is his campaign, and he should have to pay the freight for its actions.

why in god’s name some people have to have someone “just like them” in any elected office is beyond me. you recognize and I recognioze that doesn’t qualify someone for national office. But to those women, it’s almost a requirement.

I think it’s kinda primal. I see it all the time in mothers of small children carefully guarding which kids they hang out with, which includes the mothers. If the mom likes the other mom, the kid is “preapproved”. The kids don’t make the decision, the mothers check each other out.

I told my girls that if I thought abstinence would keep them from getting pregnant, they could just shoot me for being terminally stupid.

I remember those little dolls. They came in all shapes and sizes with funny colored hair and kinda looked like a precious moment gone bad. Yeah, there were some that were really, really tiny too. Yeah, I remember those.

i think republicans care (regular citizens, not the politians) just like i think democrats (again, citizens not the pols)… but that is not enough.

I’m finally starting to get just how important it is…

I should have added that, to me, ignorance, chest-beating, a black-and-white view of the world, and a willingness to spit on the best of our nation’s founding values, are self-evidently weakness that places us in great danger, whereas intelligence, understanding of nuance and complexity, a command of as many of the facts of a situation as we can muster, and a clear commitment to our founding values, are self-evidently sources of great strength.

What I haven’t understood is that the other side genuinely doesn’t see it that that way. What’s self-evident to them is that in a dangerous world it is reckless to the point of treason to give responsibility for defending the country to people who won’t even defend their own honor.

I knew that’s what you meant. I meant that Obama’s own record of honesty is less relevant if he correctly identifies weaknesses in McCain to attack. That’s quite different from his talking about himself and what he’ll do if elected.

And if we had to confine attackers to pols who don’t lie, we’d have slim pickins.

Sorry to go OT

Those who assumed yoga is for peaceniks should prepare to have the notion shot down. The Indian Army is poised to adopt the ancient practice after trials showed that giving meditation precedence over conventional physical drills at boot camp makes for a deadlier fighting force.

Chants of “Om” and elastically athletic poses may seem out of place in a training barracks, but after three months new soldiers of the Bengal Engineering Group, who did 50 minutes of yoga a day combined with 40 minutes of traditional exercise, had steadier hands, stronger grips and leaner muscles than peers who underwent a gruelling 90-minute military work-out instead, according to a study.

The researchers suggest that their findings shatter preconceptions of yoga as a pacifistic pursuit. “The yoga group showed an improvement in skilled activities requiring co-ordination and concentration, as well as muscular strength and endurance.” Dr Shirley Telles, the principal investigator on the project, said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t…..045641.ece

All I am saying is that he did urge teaching sex ed in the State Legislature to kindergartners so the charge is true whether you think it’s a good thing or not…Barack is not a good standard bearer for the progressive cause because he’s a hypocrite…

Never said it was off limits, or that he isn’t taking a negative approach in his campaign. Just pointing out that if the dems attack his character they’re not going to gain any supporters. They need to attack him on policy, specifically economics, which is his weakness.

Obama doesn’t have experience or a voting record to be attacked on policy alone, however, because of his inexperience his character is vulnerable to attack.

That’s my take on the ideal strategy for both sides.

OT, but OMG!
Source: Michigan Messenger

Michigan Republicans plan to foreclose African American voters

The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP’s effort to challenge some voters on Election Day.

“We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed.

State election rules allow parties to assign “election challengers” to polls to monitor the election. In addition to observing the poll workers, these volunteers can challenge the eligibility of any voter provided they “have a good reason to believe” that the person is not eligible to vote. One allowable reason is that the person is not a “true resident of the city or township.”

The Michigan Republicans’ planned use of foreclosure lists is apparently an attempt to challenge ineligible voters as not being “true residents.”

One expert questioned the legality of the tactic.

Read more: http://www.michiganmessenger.c…..e-l…

The only thing I can see that is “mavericky” about McFlame is his obstreperous behavior. What does he put forth as his ideas? Nothing. He just says “I’ll stop this and that and you’re an assh*le”.

Scarecrow upstairs!
McCain’s Biggest Lies Are About Obama’s Tax Cuts

just more propaganda for when mccain steals the election. gee, it was so close!

thanks for posting this one.

I don’t see what’s wrong with stopping voters from using addresses lost in foreclosures as their residence… Seems fair to me.

They’re living somewhere (most likely, and hopefully), they should register there.

Your welcome the MSM seems to be using Rove’s Special ” Math”.
I wonder what the polls really look like?

Oh, stop. The McCain campaign “goes apeshit” as a tactic, not because John McCain is a hothead (though he is). They do it because it works. Today, San Francisco’s popular KFOG morning show, which is staffed entirely by good leftist people with “San Francisco values”, spent most of their time between songs talking about the fake outrage over Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” remark. Why was that in the conversation? Because the McCain campaign went apeshit over it, getting the press to cover it, and the Obama campaign did not go apeshit over McCain’s evil claim that Obama wants to teach kindergarteners how to have sex.

But, you say, they put out a statement attacking McCain’s honor. Yes, but they didn’t follow up. The Republican apeshit technique is to get every single campaign surrogate and every member of the party to bring up the issue to every reporter, in unison, no matter what the reporter wants to talk about, until the story is in the press. It’s a full-court press technique to set the media agenda.

If Obama’s campaign doesn’t get this, and soon, I’m afraid that he’s going to lose, unless he can somehow prod McCain into exploding red-faced frothing-at-the-mouth anger during the debates.

I meant that Obama’s own record of honesty is less relevant if he correctly identifies weaknesses in McCain to attack.

well, you could be right – my “n” is small.

but for that small sample size, obama could call mccain on every single lie and the republicans i know would not hear a word of what was said. it’s got to come from a trusted source. and the only chance of being a trusted source if one has different political views is to refrain from partisanship in describing political issues, events, etc.

but given the number of times i’ve seen people comment here that republicans won’t listen, will never change their minds about bush, etc – i have to wonder.

And I’m saying that is not correct, according to such sources as the quite conservative Chicago Tribune, which covered that when Obama was in the State Senate. Read here, from Frank James who is not exactly an Obama fan, either:

“…What’s fairly clear is that Obama supported age-appropriate instruction so that children as young as kindergartners would be able to tell the difference between appropriate affection and abuse.

Such education is commonplace these days which is unfortunate but necessary. Even millions of pre-schoolers are taught to tell someone if a person touches them in a private place.

So the McCain ad, in the way it contorts the truth, is pretty shocking from a candidate who has promised to bring change and reform to Washington, a man who’s urging Americans to live for a cause larger than themselves.

This is an old-fashioned, unreconstructed politics whose goal, first and foremost, is to get the candidate elected, the truth be damned.

McCain has said he’d rather lose a campaign than lose a war. But it appears from this ad he’d rather lose any purchase he has on straight-talk than lose this presidential election.”

They did follow-up — see my comment further up the comments (11 or so, I think) where Obama blasted McCain for trying to turn the campaign into a sideshow Bob hour instead of talking about the real issues, including McCain’s failure on education. At a town hall this morning.

Do try less gloom and doom without fully informing yourself of the facts, would you?

I didn’t want to dwell on that aspect. Most look at Tai Chi as a popular exercise regimen. It is much more than that, as all martial arts are more than just martial, if taught correctly.

Are ya doin’ the Fox Baseball Game of the Week this week?

Actually McCain’s primary weakness is that he is the spawn of George W Bush’s policies, and he’s a lying S.O.B.

McCain suffered the wrath of the Republican machine when he ran against Bush, roundly denounced it at the time, and now he’s using the exact same game plan and machine himself – with Shadow Government Operative, Karl Rove, at the helm.

McCain’s weakness is his hypocrisy and dishonesty – to say nothing of his incompetence.

Who crashed more planes than McCain?

I’m kind of partial to the Mariachi arts, personally. Absolutely love the brass sections.

Why did John McCain criticize Obama’s vote to protect kindergarteners from sexual perverts? Whom does John McCain want to protect?

Republican Mark Foley.

I took apart every line of this attack ad and every single aspect of it is a lie. EVERY LINE is a lie!

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FWIW The Independent has this story it is pandering. Nothing real seems to be leaving the border.

http://www.independent.co.uk/n…..24513.html

What the press in England is saying. May have clues how to counter the propaganda, may not.

how’s cindy’s half sister doing?

Which is exactly why my child will be armed with whatever information keeps her safest. And why we are considering some karate lessons for her, too.

Kung fu peanut, I can see it now.

the bill was to restructure content of EXISTING sex ed — which was already age appropriate. 5 year-old were not being taught about sex

Re your remark to biodieselvw:

Ahhhhh…I see. Getting paid to do the McCain campaign responses in the comments today, or just a true believer?

Perhaps a Cheetos tax would have the effect of cutting back on these trolls.

Christy,

I also despise liars and manipulative people. I’ve been surfing around the friendly confines of the net to find out what people are saying about the McCain-Palin lies and one point that I haven’t seen mentioned is how obvious the lies are. There isn’t any sophistication or strategic thinking apparent. Sophisticated and intelligent liars cook-up stories that resemble free-flowing water. The lie appears to make sense and doesn’t raise suspicions. McCain-Palin, however, present themselves not as independent and responsible reformers, but as cartoon-like maverick super-reformers who, with a wave of their magic light-swords, can vanquish all of the bad guys, save the world, and have dinner on the table at 6 pm sharp without breaking a sweat. This type of lying betrays extreme contempt for the voting public and the media. It’s so in-your-face insulting that it cannot be ignored. Even a cub reporter for the Hooterville Clarion can uncover these lies.

This lack of judgment crosses the line into unmapped territory — improvisational impulsivity without regard to reality.

We’ve been transported into some weird comic book.