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	<title>Comments on: Media and Obama Campaign To McCain &#8211; Palin: You&#8217;re Lying</title>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/obama-campaign-to-mccain-palin-youre-lying/#comment-1622866</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Thou shalt not bear false witness”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;oh well.  why am i not surprised that people who would cross out the bill of rights would not also forget a commandment or two while enforcing belief control?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Thou shalt not bear false witness”</p>
<p>oh well.  why am i not surprised that people who would cross out the bill of rights would not also forget a commandment or two while enforcing belief control?</p>
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		<title>By: xargaw</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/obama-campaign-to-mccain-palin-youre-lying/#comment-1622751</link>
		<dc:creator>xargaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I very much like this latest ad from the Obama camp about the lies. But, I would take it further. I have mentioned elsewhere that if Rove were running the Obama campaign he would be targeting McCain on his preceived stength; Ingetrity. McCain’s “Country First” mantra is all about integrity. Well, a liar has lost his integrity. A campaign that lies every time it opens it’s mouth or runs an ad full of lies has no integrity. Tie every lie with lost integrity. Desimate the integrity issue. McCain/Palin = No Integrity. Strip McCain of his integrity, after all, he gave it up without a thought.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much like this latest ad from the Obama camp about the lies. But, I would take it further. I have mentioned elsewhere that if Rove were running the Obama campaign he would be targeting McCain on his preceived stength; Ingetrity. McCain’s “Country First” mantra is all about integrity. Well, a liar has lost his integrity. A campaign that lies every time it opens it’s mouth or runs an ad full of lies has no integrity. Tie every lie with lost integrity. Desimate the integrity issue. McCain/Palin = No Integrity. Strip McCain of his integrity, after all, he gave it up without a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: DBaker</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/obama-campaign-to-mccain-palin-youre-lying/#comment-1622713</link>
		<dc:creator>DBaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;SHOULD NOT do them any favors….. (edit function!!!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHOULD NOT do them any favors….. (edit function!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: DBaker</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/obama-campaign-to-mccain-palin-youre-lying/#comment-1622709</link>
		<dc:creator>DBaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To get back to your original point, it is a pretty strong statement to say that Biden “lied” here - while I will readily admit it looks pretty stinky what Biden did and how he phrases things; Palin is a totally different animal - she consistently is saying things that are demonstrably untrue and that are easy to understand, especially for the low information voter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have read a great deal about the Iraq War and the intelligence and WMD, etc. and my head hurts trying to grasp all the issues and parties involved here.  Trying to convince low information voters by saying that Biden possibly lied 3 or 4 times, while Palin lies &lt;strong&gt;all the time&lt;/strong&gt; manages to cloud the message.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another issue, which the GOP is really, really good at is to say how broken government and governmental institutions are.  As a tactic this “all politicians are liars” tactic serves only one master, those who don’t want government to do anything whatsoever.  By extension, this harms the progressive movement in general.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The GOP and its mainstream media friends already do a wonderful job disseminating oppo research - I just think that we should do them any favors by helping them out here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get back to your original point, it is a pretty strong statement to say that Biden “lied” here &#8211; while I will readily admit it looks pretty stinky what Biden did and how he phrases things; Palin is a totally different animal &#8211; she consistently is saying things that are demonstrably untrue and that are easy to understand, especially for the low information voter.</p>
<p>I have read a great deal about the Iraq War and the intelligence and WMD, etc. and my head hurts trying to grasp all the issues and parties involved here.  Trying to convince low information voters by saying that Biden possibly lied 3 or 4 times, while Palin lies <strong>all the time</strong> manages to cloud the message.</p>
<p>Another issue, which the GOP is really, really good at is to say how broken government and governmental institutions are.  As a tactic this “all politicians are liars” tactic serves only one master, those who don’t want government to do anything whatsoever.  By extension, this harms the progressive movement in general.</p>
<p>The GOP and its mainstream media friends already do a wonderful job disseminating oppo research &#8211; I just think that we should do them any favors by helping them out here.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I see McCain’s wearin’ a Navy cap today…meanwhile he surrounds himself with war mongers and war profiteers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see McCain’s wearin’ a Navy cap today…meanwhile he surrounds himself with war mongers and war profiteers.</p>
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		<title>By: sadlyyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>sadlyyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;you seriously overestimate the low information voter,they could care less……2002 is ancient history to them,their breakfast this morning is&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you seriously overestimate the low information voter,they could care less……2002 is ancient history to them,their breakfast this morning is</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/obama-campaign-to-mccain-palin-youre-lying/#comment-1622690</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; I am not a big fan of Biden as he has not shown the propensity to buck conventional wisdom. On the other hand, Palin/McCain are 150 times worse; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but isn’t the point to try to convince other people, especially those who might be inclined to vote for mccain/palin, to change their minds?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or are we only trying to convince ourselves?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I am not a big fan of Biden as he has not shown the propensity to buck conventional wisdom. On the other hand, Palin/McCain are 150 times worse; </p>
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<p>but isn’t the point to try to convince other people, especially those who might be inclined to vote for mccain/palin, to change their minds?</p>
<p>or are we only trying to convince ourselves?</p>
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		<title>By: Kinmo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/obama-campaign-to-mccain-palin-youre-lying/#comment-1622689</link>
		<dc:creator>Kinmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t give me any ideas.&lt;br /&gt;
*trying to remember where that giant tooth display is*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t give me any ideas.<br />
*trying to remember where that giant tooth display is*</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/obama-campaign-to-mccain-palin-youre-lying/#comment-1622688</link>
		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL.  Really.  I mean seriously.  I woulda been pissed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.  Really.  I mean seriously.  I woulda been pissed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kinmo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/obama-campaign-to-mccain-palin-youre-lying/#comment-1622686</link>
		<dc:creator>Kinmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama needs to pound the issues, loud and clear.  Put the issues front and center, and never back down to McPain and Failin’s level.  Worm poop, that is.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama needs to pound the issues, loud and clear.  Put the issues front and center, and never back down to McPain and Failin’s level.  Worm poop, that is.</p>
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