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	<title>Comments on: Calling Out FAIR: Lobbyists Descend At A Hate Group&#8217;s Bidding</title>
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		<title>By: ipc1331</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/calling-out-fair-lobbyists-descend-at-a-hate-groups-bidding/#comment-1624551</link>
		<dc:creator>ipc1331</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for this post.  Here at IPC we also did a piece on FAIR and Lou Dobbs’ participation in their event on the Huffington Post.  Please &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/angela-kelley/lou-dobbs-and-immigrant-h_b_125250.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;check it out&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post.  Here at IPC we also did a piece on FAIR and Lou Dobbs’ participation in their event on the Huffington Post.  Please <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/angela-kelley/lou-dobbs-and-immigrant-h_b_125250.html" rel="nofollow">check it out</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: drzaius</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/calling-out-fair-lobbyists-descend-at-a-hate-groups-bidding/#comment-1623121</link>
		<dc:creator>drzaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Man this is unfortunate, for the &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; FAIR - Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (www.fair.org). They have been calling BS on the media years before Media Matters. I hope this doesn’t cause any confusion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man this is unfortunate, for the <em>other</em> FAIR &#8211; Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (www.fair.org). They have been calling BS on the media years before Media Matters. I hope this doesn’t cause any confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/calling-out-fair-lobbyists-descend-at-a-hate-groups-bidding/#comment-1623082</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/brainwatch-mccains-brain-falters-againand-againand/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kirk Murphy upstairs&lt;/a&gt; with a look at McCain’s brain (not Rove BTW)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/brainwatch-mccains-brain-falters-againand-againand/" rel="nofollow">Kirk Murphy upstairs</a> with a look at McCain’s brain (not Rove BTW)</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/calling-out-fair-lobbyists-descend-at-a-hate-groups-bidding/#comment-1623081</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ps - got so excited remembering I had my bookmark, I posted it before I clicked on the 07 SPLC link - embarasskin’&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps &#8211; got so excited remembering I had my bookmark, I posted it before I clicked on the 07 SPLC link &#8211; embarasskin’</p>
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		<title>By: David Neiwert</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/calling-out-fair-lobbyists-descend-at-a-hate-groups-bidding/#comment-1623079</link>
		<dc:creator>David Neiwert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In fairness, Arnold left after the SPLC’s report on US English came out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fairness, Arnold left after the SPLC’s report on US English came out.</p>
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		<title>By: Badwater</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/calling-out-fair-lobbyists-descend-at-a-hate-groups-bidding/#comment-1623078</link>
		<dc:creator>Badwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If that belief guides her every day, should be conclude that, for her, Jesus is corrupt and underhanded?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that belief guides her every day, should be conclude that, for her, Jesus is corrupt and underhanded?</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/calling-out-fair-lobbyists-descend-at-a-hate-groups-bidding/#comment-1623076</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;that would be ET&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would be ET</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/calling-out-fair-lobbyists-descend-at-a-hate-groups-bidding/#comment-1623075</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and btw - Good On Ya Andy Stern and SEIU !!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and btw &#8211; Good On Ya Andy Stern and SEIU !!!</p>
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		<title>By: wrb1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/09/calling-out-fair-lobbyists-descend-at-a-hate-groups-bidding/#comment-1623074</link>
		<dc:creator>wrb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An Alaskan blogger offers some personal insight into the person McCaqin judges suitable to control 10000 nuke and shape our response to global warming&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I first met Alaska Governor and GOP Vice Presidential aspirant Sarah Palin when she was on the City of Wasilla Planning Commission. I appeared at one of their meetings, along with my boss at that time, now-convicted ex-Allvest CEO, Bill Weimer. We were presenting a proposal Allvest was working on, in conjunction with a Wasilla-based mental health clinic, to open a community corrections project there, and needed a facility permit. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At that time, I remembered her, because she seemed to be the only person on the commission who had actually read our proposal. It was obvious from her questions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of the encounters I’ve since had with Sarah Palin, two that brought up her faith, have become important, in light of the possibility that she might someday soon be in charge of thousands of thermonuclear weapons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In June 1997, both Palin and I had responsibilities at the graduation ceremony of a small group of Wasilla area home schoolers. I directed the Mat-Su College Community Band, which played music, and she gave the commencement address. It was held at her church, the Wasilla Assembly of God.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Palin had recently become Wasilla mayor, beating her earliest mentor, John Stein, the then-incumbent mayor. A large part of her campaign had been to enlist fundamentalist Christian groups, and invoke evangelical buzzwords into her talks and literature.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As the ceremony concluded, I bumped into her in a hall away from other people. I congratulated her on her victory, and took her aside to ask about her faith. Among other things, she declared that she was a young earth creationist, accepting both that the world was about 6,000-plus years old, and that humans and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I asked how she felt about the second coming and the end times. She responded that she fully believed that the signs of Jesus returning soon “during MY lifetime,” were obvious. “I can see that, maybe you can’t - but it guides me every day.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our next discussion about religion was after she had switched to the less strict Wasilla Bible Church. She was speaking at, I was performing bugle, at a Veterans ceremony between Wasilla and Palmer. At this time, people were beginning to encourage her to run for Governor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once again, we found ourselves being able to talk privately. I reminded her of the earlier conversation, asking her if her views had changed. She was no longer “necessarily” a young earth creationist, she told me. But she strongly reiterated her belief that “The Lord is coming soon.” I was trying to get her to tell me what she felt the signs were, when she had to move on. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/09/saradise-lost-chapter-sixten-palins.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://progressivealaska.blogs.....alins.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Alaskan blogger offers some personal insight into the person McCaqin judges suitable to control 10000 nuke and shape our response to global warming</p>
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I first met Alaska Governor and GOP Vice Presidential aspirant Sarah Palin when she was on the City of Wasilla Planning Commission. I appeared at one of their meetings, along with my boss at that time, now-convicted ex-Allvest CEO, Bill Weimer. We were presenting a proposal Allvest was working on, in conjunction with a Wasilla-based mental health clinic, to open a community corrections project there, and needed a facility permit. </p>
<p>At that time, I remembered her, because she seemed to be the only person on the commission who had actually read our proposal. It was obvious from her questions.</p>
<p>Of the encounters I’ve since had with Sarah Palin, two that brought up her faith, have become important, in light of the possibility that she might someday soon be in charge of thousands of thermonuclear weapons.</p>
<p>In June 1997, both Palin and I had responsibilities at the graduation ceremony of a small group of Wasilla area home schoolers. I directed the Mat-Su College Community Band, which played music, and she gave the commencement address. It was held at her church, the Wasilla Assembly of God.</p>
<p>Palin had recently become Wasilla mayor, beating her earliest mentor, John Stein, the then-incumbent mayor. A large part of her campaign had been to enlist fundamentalist Christian groups, and invoke evangelical buzzwords into her talks and literature.</p>
<p>As the ceremony concluded, I bumped into her in a hall away from other people. I congratulated her on her victory, and took her aside to ask about her faith. Among other things, she declared that she was a young earth creationist, accepting both that the world was about 6,000-plus years old, and that humans and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time.</p>
<p>I asked how she felt about the second coming and the end times. She responded that she fully believed that the signs of Jesus returning soon “during MY lifetime,” were obvious. “I can see that, maybe you can’t &#8211; but it guides me every day.”</p>
<p>Our next discussion about religion was after she had switched to the less strict Wasilla Bible Church. She was speaking at, I was performing bugle, at a Veterans ceremony between Wasilla and Palmer. At this time, people were beginning to encourage her to run for Governor.</p>
<p>Once again, we found ourselves being able to talk privately. I reminded her of the earlier conversation, asking her if her views had changed. She was no longer “necessarily” a young earth creationist, she told me. But she strongly reiterated her belief that “The Lord is coming soon.” I was trying to get her to tell me what she felt the signs were, when she had to move on. </p>
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<p><a href="http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2008/09/saradise-lost-chapter-sixten-palins.html" rel="nofollow">http://progressivealaska.blogs&#8230;..alins.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
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		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He plan on running against Corzine? That seems impulsive.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He plan on running against Corzine? That seems impulsive.</p>
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