From voters, the demand is: Surprise Me Most. For candidates, the lesson is: Weirdness Wins.
Huh. Then again, look what he considers "weird":
Last winter, Barack Obama succeeded by running a weird campaign. He wasn’t just a normal politician aiming for office, he was going to cleanse the country of the baby-boom culture war mentality. In his soaring speeches, he denounced the mores of both the Clinton and Bush eras and made an argument for unity and hope over endless partisan warfare.
Hey, if Bobo thinks wanting to make our political discourse less toxic is "weird," then I guess I can see why voters might want more of it.
But then he veers all the way into Confuse-A-Cat territory:
Now the campaign has become a battle between two different definitions of change. The Obama camp has become the champion of policy change — after eight years of failed Bush-McCain policies, it is time for different, Democratic ones. The McCain campaign is the champion of systemic change — after two decades of bickering and self-dealing, its time to shake up the whole system in order to get things done.
The McCain campaign is- what? The- But- They-
[incoherent spluttering]
Are you out of your cotton-picking mind??? How on earth is McCain "the champion of systemic change"? How is McCain going to "shake up the whole system"? He surrounds himself with lobbyists! Not only has he shown no interest in campaign finance reform since McCain-Feingold, he’s been going in the opposite direction! He agrees with Bush on practically everything! His "reformer" running mate is a corrupt, power-abusing, investigation-stonewalling religious zealot earmark queen!
Can someone please tell me how a President McCain would bring "systemic change" in any sense other than "making everything much, much worse"? Criminy, if weirdness wins this election, I’m afraid we may be looking at President Brooks next January. Or President Crispin Glover, but that might actually be kind of cool.
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Oh noesss… Not BoBo…!
Alle-lu-uu-yah. Somewhere next comes the part about BS. Big Science or Bobo?
Brooks has been operating from a very strange place of late (more than usual). I suspect he is wolfing down ’shrooms between outbursts.
I want a wierd prez in the worst kind of a way. NOT.
Or weird as the case may be.
is the mother of all corrupt, power-abusing, investigation-stonewalling religious zealot earmark queens!
That’s as good an explanation as any. The only others I can think of are:
A) He’s living in an alternate reality universe which superficially resembles ours, but is fundamentally different.
B) His job is to say things which are so nonsensical that they make our brains seize up, thus reducing us to incoherent spluttering.
Poor Bobo has been peering into the abyss for a few columns now. It wouldn’t surprise me if he doesn’t “come down with something” and need to take a leave of absence.
If you haven’t heard, and because we all have to be aware of all the internets traditions, the Sadly Naughts have birthed a NEW tradition. We all know about “shorter.” Today they have given us “Snorter David Brooks.” Heh.
Competent would be a vast improvement. Respect (or less contempt) for the Bill of Rights would be a great bonus.
I left you a thoughtful response on 1984 in EPUland.
Leave to write a book would be the classy way to go. We can only hope.
Seems like we’ve had a weird prez for the last almost 8 years. Enough.
Is this election the second time as comedy? If so, I’m not laughing.
I don’t care if it’s classy… Actually, come to think of it, a messy public melt-down would be fitting and fun. Schadenfreude can be your friend.
Hiya.
Guess Brooks has gotten addicted to weird.
Brooks is not a stupid man.
He plays stupid in order top push ideology.
There are more than a few people that now see just how dangerous a fuse has been lit by the McCain/Palin evangelical gambit.
McCain has proven himself to be morally incapable of keeping the crazies in the box.
Brooks is between a rock and a hard place as the reality sets in.
-G
Guess I haven’t quite taken in that Rs are not human beings. Schadenfreude is the only freude we’ve had for quite some time.
Digg it.
Brooks is far from stupid. He is, however, a liar and a fraud in more ways that one can BEGIN to address.
You can’t expose McCampaign to critical thinking. There’s no there there. Most of what they say is simply boldfaced lies.
What is odd is that they do it… and the media enables it instead of calling them for the frauds they both are.
Obi may not be god’s gift to progressive politics, but it is world of difference with these clowns.
Can we please have grown ups in the white house.
OOOHHH…. Bob Barr coming up on Rachel! I’m about to faint from delight!
Bobo is just saying that he and the GOP never wanted to win the Presidency anyway its just a typical Losers reaction:)
Thanks for the heads up. Will predict that they have quite a bit in common, like Constitution.
He’ll go on Metamucil?
Thanks, I saw that. The resemblance would stagger the imagination if we hadn’t been living through it.
Bobby Barr’s a major loon, but he will steal votes from McCain this election. (From my lips to God’s ear…)
Hey EcAHN, it’s the Kool Aid, gets ‘em every time.
Then the country will really be on the skids…
The race is on to leave someone with a flaming bag of shit and then accuse them of being the cause of a shitty shoe after having to stamp it out.
Bushworld.
-G
Perhaps the Ds should declare war against KoolAde.
Maybe someone should check the oxygen levels in that DC bubble that Bobo lives in….. he may be experiencing hypoxia and needs to get out more…… HOLY pooh…. where is the hammer to crack that bubble?
I’ve had a weird President for dang near 8 years now.
Weird is NOT what we are looking for right now.
The only systematic change happening in that campaign is McBush’s obsession with “glancing” at Female Pitbull with lipstick’s butt…(connotation of comparison of herself and a dog wearing lipstick was not lost by my ears…).
Hey, she brought it on…
If it weren’t for the Supreme Court, I would almost think that winning the presidency this year is a trap…
Barr says he’s honored to be “one of the first guests on your show.” Classy. Nuts, but classy…
From your lips to Admiral Akbars ears.
-G
If he hadn’t already picked a running mate he could nominate Anita Bryant and cause a great schism in the fundie demographic.
Yup, and then bring Jebby on to fix everything…
Thing is, Bobo’s definition of “weird” is itself… weird.
Bobo is biased everything the GOP does is great. Is he smart I really don’t think so a smart man would find a job that involved less lying.
A smart man would work to make the country a better place. A selfish man would say anything because he is paid too.
But it would take a crazy person to believe everything or anything Bobo has written.
Ooooh, interesting. But then we would feel a great disturbance in The Force….
Since I get a free protest vote as a NYSer, I’m checking him out. Antiwar & proconstitution are 2 strong points. Also speaking truth to power. Carried to its ridiculous extreme during the Clinton impeachment. Don’t take my appreciation of parts of the package for approval of the whole package, though.
He’s a Republican. Lying is as natural and comfortable to him as breathing.
Rachel Maddow’s interview of Bob Barr tonight goes better than her interview with Pat Buchanan went last night. Not only is Barr a gentleman, but he pretty much agrees with all the points Rachel makes about McPalin.
Bobo is dodo
Rachel’s interview with Barr was far too short. She could have brought out some real unfavorables wrt the R party, and she never gave him a chance to talk up his Libertarian prez run. Big mistakes.
Funny how Bob Barr & Ron Paul are both anti-abortion libertarians…
Brooks is so lame and irrelevant that he doesn’t even deserve a column in The New York Times, much less an FDL post devoted to him and his nonsense.
I saw only a part of her Buchanan interview, but I thought the contretemps was very productive. It was conducted in nearly normal tones of voice (Buch got a little hot under the collar), and they joined the issues. Wish all interviews we like that. When he accused her of something bad, she countered strongly, No, I’m just asking Qs. Didn’t think it came out badly at all.
It did give me an excuse to rant about the absurdity of *McCain* as an agent of change.
Here’s his Wiki page. He’s crazy enough to have been voted out of office IN GEORGIA. As I recall from voting in NYC you’ll probably have other alternatives. You might consider Cynthia McKinney, just as much of a loon as Barr, and the Green Party candidate. What can I say — just put a fence around the South and turn it into an insane asylum…
I think that Bush and Cheney have been very successful at shaking up the system, and after 4 years of McCain and Palin shaking up the system further, I predict it will not only be more shaken, it will be dead.
And that is a libertarian. Don’t count for much support for Barr in GA. He did lose his seat here.
Obama’s camp just stepped up.
Burton said McCain couldn’t define honor. After this phony lipstick hissyfit, now we know why.
More of this, in the solar plexus. Oftener and harder.
-G
See then he can’t be smart. Games theory, lying breeds distrust and that weakens society which makes things that require group activity impossible.
Granted the GOP pushes an everyone should be White, Protestant and think alike ideal to build group identity. But as we have seen in the Bush administration none of that matters if nobody trusts each other in the first place and nothing gets done.
Its more that bad ideas the GOP has its bad implementation of ideas due to a lack of trust. Darth never trusted Colin Powell or Condi, Rummy only trusted Darth, Bush trusted Rove and Rove trusted “the math”.
Everyone gave orders but nobody really did anything.
Both would make it a matter for the states to decide, iirc. Not defending them, just saying that is hardly the worst hypocrisy that any politicians have ever committed.
And if you really think abortion is murder … I don’t, but I’ve tried to put myself mentally into the position of someone who does. Think I would try for political change, but can imagine the frustration and horror at a million murders/year.
Yeah, yeah, death penalty, no care for the unwanted babies who are born, etc. I agree with all that. But you rarely convince or comfort your opponent, nor make points with 3d parties by accusing your opponents of hypocrisy.
I meant no criticism of your post, Eli. You did well with what you had to work with. I just think Bobo is pretty darned irrelevant.
McKinney would be a much better protest vote. I’ll see who’s on the ballot.
OMG how uncivil! I may faint.
Ah, but he may be a factor. Which is probably one of the reasons we’re faced with Palin who will appeal to the Talibangelicals who hate McCain.
And, how is this a surprise? Did the democrats ever read the Republican Noise Machine or Foxes in the Henhouse? Good god, let’s not go 0-3. This electorate is everything HL Mencken said it was, and more. Afterall they sorta elected Bush, twice.
Demos from big states – get over it. The little states and swing states run the electoral college. Play their game or lose. If you can’t appeal to Uncle Joe and Aunt Jane in rural Missouri – you ain’t in the game.
The good news is that its not over, yet. Get out and organize for Obama, hope and change – we might pull this one out – in spite of the democrats’ myopia.
I’m not particularly trying to convince anyone. It just bugs me.
Perhaps it’s time for Obama to “feel your pain.”
Heh…what might pop McCain’s anger cork is the implication that the lipstick pitbull pulls more weight that McCain’s hero status…
Upstaged by a woman..he won’t like the tro**op *unt factor stealing his hard won thunder…cuz he’s the man…..
I know you’re not trying to convince me and it bugs me too. But by trying to see it from the anti-choice (i.e. abortion is murder) POV, I’m searching for a third way.
The obvious third way is prevention of unwanted pregnancies. The fact that the anti-choice people are so backward on that subject is, for me, where the dialogue really grinds to a halt.
You betcha. Can imagine it would take only a couple a three Qs on Palin upstaging him to make him go ballistic.
You may even have other options I’m unaware of. I seem to recall that minor parties found it easy to get on the ballot in NY.
I’ve taken to accusing rightwingers of being too politically correct these days.
Kinda pisses ‘em off.
-G
One problem is that many of those anti-choice people view “prevention of unwanted pregnancies,” i.e. “birth control,” as a form of abortion itself.
Brooks is just a hack propagandist. His shtik is to sound reasonable and then unload a bunch of Republican talkingpoints.
Speaking of hack idiots, Thomas Friedman is going to be on Charlie Rose tonight discussing his new book “Hot and Bothered” or “Flat is the New Green” or something like that. It hard to keep up. First, because I could care less and second, because he pulls a new one out of his ass every 15 minutes or so. Oh, and no I am not going to watch.
Yeah, that’s my biggest problems. Abortions can be reduced through contraception and sex ed, as well as by making it more financially possible to have and raise children. But as you say, the people who are against abortion are almost always against everything that would reduce it.
If their objection to it is truly that it’s because it’s murder, then their position makes no sense.
Especially since so many of the same folks who are ardently pro-forced birth are just as adamantly anti-contraception.
Well, she certainly is stealing it. Just marches right up front – no respect for McC there.
Yeah, well there’s no reasoning with them. Like every egg and every sperm is a foregone human being. I guess the reductio ad absurdum is the only recourse. Make girls get pregnant with their first mensturation.
Thank you ecahn, If the religious right did not have choice to run on what would the election be about, maybe the middle class? The obvious third way is prevention of unwanted pregnancies. The fact that the anti-choice people are so backward on that subject is, for me, where the dialogue really grinds to a halt.
I’ll check it out when League of Women Voters sends out it’s voters’ guide. In fact, I’m not sure they still do, since I haven’t been paying attention. But there will be ways of finding out.
me too!
D is for Change!
Oh! SWEEEEET!!! I can certainly use that down here. Thanks!
There is potential for an internal campaign rift….McBush does not respect women. Now, he’s been forced to choose a woman who is taking over…bringing in the crowds…he is not bringing in hardly anyone…they are there to “see” Palin.
McBush is an egomaniac…he won’t like that, because he feels entitled. He’s all google-eyed right now, cause she’s a babe, but when he finds out how domineering she is, and that she’s not attracted to him, he’ll blow…he’s human. He will see her as emasculating, and that is what prompts his tro**op and *unt outbursts…
The man does not like “women”…he might like se*, if he remembers what that was, but he does not like powerful women…hence his abusive behavior towards Cindy during her stroke recovery, his public verbal abuse of her, and his refusal to vote for women to receive equal pay for equal work. The honeymoon will end up with their “first fight”, and it will be tense. He can’t ever get the following she has, and that will tick him off bigtime…
Bring it on!!!
Just sayin’.
She is demonstrating that she is a “maverick” by dissing that longtime pillar of the Washington establishment, The Maverick™ himself, John Sidney McCain III.
NY Secretary of State? I know the Secy. of State handles info like that down here…
This is pretty close to my impression of the dynamic. I would love to see it blow up big-time.
Isn’t it time to remind the AP and NEDRA PICKLER again that her biased “journalism” will not be tolerated?
Anybody here think NEDRA can honestly say Obama meant that Palin is a pig and McCain can’t gussy her up? I don’t believe it. I’ve heard Obama make the speech. He is talking about McCain policy portfolio, that it is the same as Bush’s and therefore it is a pig.
Either NEDRA is as dumb as a post or she’s n the bag, and given her past record, I’ll say the latter.
Let’s fire up the old Firedoglake NEDRA widget
and give the AP a piece of our mind about NEDRA’s reporting. The second time is a charm.
I’m stocking up on popcorn.
David Sirota on Rachel now.
We may not “see” it, but we will notice the change in body language…he’ll get all discombobulated and distracted in public trying to control himself, and she will get all cocky…It will drive him nuts!
Unfortunately the League is no longer a great player. Because of all the partisanship, they no longer get the money to promote a non-partisan view of the elections. A friend complained that she did not receive literature about the upcoming elections from the league and I asked when was the last time you donated to them.
I think the body language and interaction between them could be a huge liability if it becomes really visibly dysfunctional. If it’s not already there.
Something tells me that Obama may be subtle enough to push all of McCain’s buttons during the debates, and do it with that charming smile on his face, and then just sit back and watch while he raves. I’ll need more popcorn…
Maybe she will try to fire him like she did all those people in Alaska.
Don’t get too giddy yet. Some resonances between my marriages & McCain/Palin along the lines you point out, but it took 10 years each for them to come acroppers. I.E. the tension might not be realized in real time.
You just guilted me out.
Yeah, Palin will pull out the old horse training trick..”You’re not the stallion, I’m the stallion”…he’s never been around a woman that tough.
I am praying for that.
True, but Palin is on fastrack to fame and power…she will run right over him…in fact, she already has…he’s like roadk*ll….and she probably eats that stuff…/s
Fired? Not so much… Re-assigned. Another LIE. How can you tell Sarah’s lying through her teeth? Her lips move.
We can hope!
ian has fresh threadiness upstairs
oh no(Bobo) another Napoleonically challenged repuklican…good evening Eli
“Comments are closed” message appearing on my screen for Ian’s post.
I wonder if Palin was all supportive of McBush before she got the “job”…??? I doubt that he was her candidate at all. I’m sure she has no real respect for him…he’s a means to an end..the end being “her” aspirations…time will tell. She’s on her best behavior now, but I’ll bet that if you give her an inch she takes a mile.
It is obvious to me…that McCain has been completely shoved to the sidelines by Palin already. It ain’t gonna be pretty…but she wins over him. Why should she be submissive to him, when he’s clearly the loser of the two.
confabulation…poor Merkins love their perrier muddied
Evenin’, sadly.
she supported PAUL
Another contrarian thought. She’s kept the same husband for all those years. Is her husband a eunuch, or does she know how to manage men so that they stay around?
the pukes try soooooooooo very hard to be relevent…and McDummy just got “the Google” on his puter
I’m watching the KO rerun now: McSame on stage alongside Palin, listening as she makes her speech. He looks awfully uncomfortable, grimacing and wringing his hands…
There you go…see…she’s anti-McCain and everything he stands for. She’s an imposter, and he’s….stupid..and a Rove pushover.
supposedly had affairs (her) hes just another MOOSE she bagged imo
The husband is rather inappropriately involved in her government business.
and senile,and truth challenged etc,etc, and so forth
Trying not to look “down there”….*g*
trying to learn Adobe Premier……….oy
That remains to be seen as rumors have it.
oh please pretty please one of your 707s before beddybye
LOL I’m sure that is very much on his mind.
Watch this…when Palin goes back to Alaska…nobody will show up to see him…that will go over well…
Chuck Todd is all over this too.
quite simply …she is not a pig………………rather A CASH COW wheres Mr.Jockstrap going? Bridge to nowhere… i doubt it
the Lady reporter on Keiths show let slip a little ditty nobody caught…………….Alaska,and Wassilla is the INCEST capital of the good ole USA
Well, he’s sure been checkin’ out the rump roast…
Gee, I was feeling so down but some of the comments make me seem hopeful. When a friend told me that she felt that Sarah was a breath of fresh air, it drove me off the edge. the last thing Palin is a breath of fresh air.
Gawd.
hahahahahahahahaha
rape kits…..extremely important……..sigh
First thing KO mentioned in his intro.
And in Mayor Palin’s Wasilla, rape victims had to pay for their own…
she is a stone cold witch
Family values 2.0
-G
hey Eli ya still here?
this weird enuf fer ya?
McCain Backed Abolishing The Department Of Education
stumble digg reddit del.ico.us news trust mixx.com September 9, 2008 12:30 PM
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Barack Obama’s campaign is reminding voters today that John McCain, during the heady days of the “Republican Revolution,” once declared that he favored abolishing the Department of Education.
“I would certainly favor doing away with the Department of Energy and I think that given the origins of the Department of Education,” the Senator said on CNN’s Late Edition in December 1994. “I would favor doing away with it as well.”
Yeah, I heard about that one. Great stuff.
this poor poor man needs a nursing home,not another mansion
Palin seems to have supported Ron Paul during the Republican Primary. In fact, although Romney won, I think that Paul beat McCain in Al;aska. McCain came in a distant fourth.
Ron Paul just told his followers that they should support either Barr or even McKinney in the election…not the McCain-Palin ticket. That has to be a serious blow to McCain’s assertions that he’s a Mav’rick, when the real Mav’rick of the Republican party says he won’t support you!
Barrwas on Rachels show slamming them too
Barr
SRS – Shaken Republic Syndrome
Two things:
a) Victims frequently have to pay for rape kits in North Carolina and Tennessee. That doesn’t make Palin’s policies any better, it just emphasizes that lawnorder only means law for certain people.
b) Relatively recently, I realized that the insult “cotton-picking” is … not a good choice. Think for a moment about who traditionally picks cotton. Yeah. I’ve had to train myself out of using it, but I think it’s worth while.
Fixed for ya, no charge
So funny, Eli. Thanks for making me smile.
Brooks perpetual apologist for JMc.
“Systemic” …. hmmmmm “systemic” … you keep talking, there, David.
McCain wants his own Hillary … misses by a mile.
McCain wants Obama’s slogan … misses by a mile.
McCain wants ALL the marbles of the other guy, but losing his own.
Why are we considering electing a team of two people who were nicknamed McNasty and Barracuda in high school? Might be a BIG warning there, America!
Erk, good point on #2. It was just the first thing that sprang to mind, which is odd, because I can’t even remember the last time that happened.