I personally prefer the NO PARTY SYSTEM. The party is over. NO MONEY should be spent on politics. None. An entire industry and noise machine has been created that serves only to divide us.

Three months prior to each election cycle, three free networks should be made available for public discussion and debate – and the smartest individuals with the most popular ideas should be elected to govern. The rest of the time, people should focus on their lives and the shit that really matters. All political advertising should be eliminated.

The media companies should be broken up – and the airwaves returned to the control of their owners, we the people. All of this crap we talk about every day is just that…crap.

The media companies invent the candidates that their owners favor, and that is made known to them by David Rockefeller, AIPAC and the CFR.

All of the money that goes into politics ends up in the pockets of the media companies. Ask McCain if he favors his own “McCain/Feingold” bill and watch how fast be back-peddles. He learned his lesson, and is now reaping his reward. Push McCain/Feingold right back in his face and make him denounce it. reveal the media’s total control of the system we call “politics.”

Morning Christy!

Truthout had this out as an e-mail:
Nearly 600,000 Subject to Possible Caging in Ohio

…

Ohio election officials are sending out a mass mailer stamped “do not forward” to all registered voters today (Sept. 5) with an absentee ballot application and other important notices for Nov. 4.

What’s important here is not so much what’s going out as what’s being returned to sender.

Unbeknownst to the would-be recipients, the same mailer – just 60 days before the election – has the potential to determine their eligibility to vote, challenged not by election officials but by partisan opposition.

A similar mailer in March netted nondeliverable mail from almost 600,000 registered voters in just five Ohio counties who could now have their ballots thrown out for voting under the wrong address.

The National Voter Registration Act prohibits any state from purging names from the voting rolls within 90 days of an election

…

Same old crap.

Christy, thanks for continuing to turn over the rocks this snake crawls under. With so many despicable players on the scene, it’s hard to pick the worst, but this creep certainly ranks right up there.

The bad guys really are pulling out all the stops this week. When wWill the white hats fire back?

I actually agree with most of this. Just looking at the Obama/Clinton run, they have spent close to a billion dollars just to get to where they are now. Add the Republican side you are probably up to 1.25 billion +-. If people were to give that to charity instead of these idiots, we would probably see a much better off US.

BTW: Palin is rockin! She sure looks good doing interviews/speeches.Woo Hoo!

Concern over voter fraud, say some partisans, is simply Republicans’ cover to intimidate voters and raise obstacles to minority voting.

We saw this in Indiana, with the nuns being denied their legal right to vote because they didn’t have the proper ID. You just can’t trust those nuns, dontcha know.

Hilzoy at the Washington Monthly has posted a Public Service Announcement in which she notes voter registration deadlines by state. It’d be best if folks checked with the appropriate agency in their own precinct, but this wouldn’t be a bad first look. If anyone isn’t registered, there is still time to do so.

It does seem that presidential elections ,have become more like Fox reality shows

Loo Hoo posted this a couple of threads back, but it seems to fit well with this one, so I’m copying it:

Here’s a must see on what the registrar sent out to students at Virginia Tech.

It reads, in part:

“The Code of Virginia states that a student must declare a legal residence in order to register. A legal residence can be either a student’s permanent address from home or their current college residence. By making Montgomery County your permanent residence, you have declared your independence from your parents and can no longer be claimed as a dependent on their income tax filings — check with your tax professional. If you have a scholarship attached to your former residence, you could lose this funding. And, if you change your registration to Montgomery County, Virginia Code requires you to change your driver’s license and car registration to your present address within 30 days.”

Just more Republics trying to suppress votes on our side. Nothing to see here, folks, move along.

Good morning Christie,
I went to the county election office week be for last. I am registered as unaffiliated. Kind of makes it sound like someone who can’t make up his mind doesn’t it.

Christy,

I also think this is a hit to military personnel due to the fact that military personnel in Iraq support Obama 6-1.

http://www.cyperus.com/cgi-bin…..038;EDATE=

Read how many times in this article it is stated, “Make sure your address on file is the correct mailing address.”

Voter Suppression articles:

http://www.opednews.com/articl…..4-300.html

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/20018.asp

Evil penguins!!

IIRC, almost all of the serving military vote absentee. In the past, the thugs would do anything to get those votes in. Now, they will do anything to block them. Big surprise!?!? Not.

The Republican Party has so gamed the electoral system that elections in the U.S. are becoming as meaningful as elections in the former Soviet Union. With all the momentum now going in the direction of McCain I’m beginning to think that it will take something more than an election to reform an obviously broken system. A weak Democratic Party, an authoritarian Republican Party that will do and say anything to maintain their stranglehold on real power, a corporate media that does not serve the common good but rather corporate interests and an under informed and ill informed electorate does not bode well for the preservation of a democratic Republic.

another one of our rights slowly being taken away

I like Rush Holt.

(Washington, D.C.) – Rep. Rush Holt (NJ-12) today introduced the Emergency Assistance for Secure Elections Act of 2008, a plan to allow state and local jurisdictions to opt-in to receive reimbursements from the federal government if they convert to a paper ballot voting system, offer emergency paper ballots, and/or conduct audits by hand counts.

“While the House has not acted on our legislation to require paper ballots and audits for all votes in all states in time for 2008, there is still time to take action to protect the accuracy, integrity, and security of the 2008 general elections,” Holt said. “This plan provides an incentive for state or localities that want to do the right thing.”

Did this legislation ever pass?

There are many out there who feel the way you do,could explain why so few people vote

Meet the new boss same as the old boss!

Morning all – just got back from running an errand. Sorry to start your day off with Von Spakovsky. *g*

Kerry did not lose in 2004. The exit polls proved it.

November 2, 2004: Overcoming a six point exit-poll advantage by Senator John Kerry, George Bush is re-elected President. Several statisticians have calculated the probability of this anomaly as one in a million — in effect, impossible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2…..exit_polls

Learn about the company Rove hired (Penn, Schoen, & Berland) to conduct and report fraudulent exit poll results – which will stood in sharp contrast to all other exit polls.

As for recent “poll” results…

The Rasmussen poll is bought and paid for by the Republican Party. No poll conducted by Rasmussen will ever reflect reality.

Former Pollster Pleads Guilty to Fabricating Results

Tracy Costin, the former owner of polling company DataUSA Inc., entered a guilty plea to conspiracy to commit mail fraud for fabricating the results of polls the company conduct on behalf of, among others, President Bush in 2004.

http://lawprofessors.typepad.c…..lster.html

You’ll be shocked to learn that Murdock endorses McCane.

via an Arizona Firedog (katymine ?)

say hello to my little friend . . .

there was a so-called ‘civil rights’ initiative in AZ that would have banned Affirmative Action in any form –

it’s been thrown out due to 40% rate of invalid signatures . . .believe that’s called VOTER FRAUD.

the link below is the group behind the pushback and if you read through their site you see how it’s done

Firedogs – if you live in a city with significant populations of Von Spakovsky’s targets – contact them to see what you can do

“By mobilizing voter education street teams, mobilizing the community to march and act, and investigating and exposing the fraud, we demoralized the petition circulators and caused them to abandon their previous methods. No longer able to lie to voters, they grew increasingly desperate and resorted to bribery and falsification and thus lost.”

this group has had similar success in Michigan, Oklahoma, and Missouri

By Any Means Necessary – scroll down to “Total Victory In Arizona”, then read the post just below it as well

Greene County is just south of here. Traditionally very poor majority African American. In the last 20 years tghey have built all these luxury hotels (Ritz Carlton etc) and gated communities. I’d bet a good percentage of the “residents” of those “communities” don’t vote there. Like Frank Beamer, the Va Tech Coach and Friedgen at Maryland.

Also, a reminder of our chat with Michael Waldman from the Brennan Center — lots of great information his his book about voting reform.

I had to turn off NPR this morning. They first had an interview with Henry Paulson who said that his Freddie-Fannie plan was meant to protect American taxpayers. They would be put at the head of the line for any eventual payouts by the companies. It’s not clear there will ever be any or that they will come close to the $200 billion Paulson has promised to cover their losses, and bailout the bigtime speculators who created this mess.

Then they had a story about offshore drilling. They put out the lie that Republicans want to drill right away, not adding that it would take years for any drilling to start, the rigs for such drilling aren’t available, the oil companies already have millions of acres that they could be developing but aren’t, and that what this amounts to is a big giveaway to them. Instead they report that Pelosi “initially” opposed more drilling but now she has been moved (caved) to the “center” on the issue and will llow a vote. I would call this cheap election year politics but the truth is expensive election year politics.

Anyway, I couldn’t take what other stories NPR was going to misreport on. So I turned the radio off rather than throwing it against a wall.

OMG, a new, nothing but lies, McCane/Palin of Lenscrafters ad.

Stole that Lenscrafters bit.

The Democrats could and should counter the lies. Unfortunately, it seems that the Clinton faction is content to sit this out hoping McCain will win.

ps – Ward Connerly: House Slave Extraordinare is behind all of this and he gets the cash whether his shit passes or not, although I’m sure he gets a tidy bonus when he actually succeeds in suppressing votes of the unwashed

Media ownership study ordered destroyed
Sept 14, 2006

‘Every last piece’ destroyed

Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that “every last piece” of the report be destroyed. “The whole project was just stopped – end of discussion,” he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC’s Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/

What percentage does David Rockefeller control, and through what means does he control it? What else does this single man control?

JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, The Federal Reserve, The Council on Foreign Relations, Exxon, Council Of The Americas, Americas Society, Forum of the Americas, Institute For International Economics, Trilateral Commission, an on, and on, and on…

Mandatory viewing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4HuiZlIqSE

Yes, the nuns are a real problem here…we have gangs of nuns roaming the countryside–knocking over trash cans, stealing candy from babies, bullying little kids for their lunch money…ohhh, will it *ever* end…??

you forgot mailbox baseball *g*

No, I think the gangs of priests are responsible for that!
*g*

lol

so mccain is polIling higher then obama, if I hadn’t seen my democratic friends begin to root for mccain I would not have believed the polls, my friends, democrats all are finding any excuse not to vote for obama, the only reason possible for them to even consider mccain is that they are bigots.

these are new york democrats I am talking about, if I hadn’t seen that I would have called the polls a lie.

but here we are, that combined with the fact that we have done very little to correct voter fraud, there will be machine flips and there will be caging, there will be “equiptment failure” at democratic precincts and there will be well written but false emails about obama’s record and plans.

this election will see more voter fraud from the republicans not less, and I have to say, if this does happen I will say right out loud, we deseved it, we knew the problems and we watched and we did nothing.

right now there is a largely republican panel that is revueing “whether or not to issue subpeona” to witnesses regarding palin’s abuse of power

the republicans want to remain in power and even those with more integrity then most will want that investigation dropped

doesn’t obama have a money advantage?

why aren’t the airwaves banging away?

man, I have trouble saying this but I felt better about kerry winning against bush then I do about obama

I have avery sad face

Bank failures, FNMA/FHLMC, stocks….all because of Bush ecomic policies,
and McCain wants to continue the insanity.

This election should not be close. It should be a Republic Waterloo. Why are the Democrats preventing that? Are Obama and Biden on vacation?

This really isn’t news, at least to me. This was something that they originally thought of when the television age first came into being.

The Marketplace of Ideas was a term they gave to the dissemination of information from different sources in the belief that different viewpoints helped us to arrive at the “truth”.

The problems began when the Reagan-appointed members of the FCC allowed for more consolidation of ownership of radio, TV, and newspapers. It’s a no-brainer that the news concentrated in the hands of a few would not have be the same Marketplace of Ideas.

That’s why this blog and other liberal blogs are soooo important–without this, how many of us would know what’s been going on in the world?

This election should not be close. It should be a Republic Waterloo.

see my 34

And this is news to you Hugh? As soon as the Bush crime family took over they stacked the CPB deck thus infecting both NPR and PBS with the disease of Rethuglican Lite cloaked in Public radio/tv respectability. They copped out long ago.

And in case anyone was still operating under the illusion that the dems are an opposition party, think again (Via ThinkProgress):

In a move that will spare conservatives from a politically difficult vote before the November elections, “Congressional Democrats have scrapped plans for another vote on expansion of the Children’s Health Insurance Program.” Democrats concluded “that President Bush would not sign their legislation and that they could not override his likely veto.” Bush has already twice vetoed similar legislation.

so mccain is lying in his adds

think progress

if obama’s people don’t come right out with the correction and paint wherever that mccain add runs I will be very disappointed

I really feel that the fix has been set in stone this weekend.

-G

I have written to both Georgia and Tennessee Bar Associations – inquiring about possible ethics violations and disbarment of ol Hans

in addition, have filed numerous complaints about him with NAACP Legal Defense Fund

Too bad they want to spare conservatives when, in fact, conservatives deserve to be punished for enabling Bush/Republics.

The Democrats could and should counter the lies. Unfortunately, it seems that the Clinton faction is content to sit this out hoping McCain will win.

I am beginning to think that our country and its political system are in the process of committing suicide. 4 years of a McCain Administration on top of the depredations of the Bush White House will effectively accomplish this. Our country does not exist outside of history, and history has shown us again and again nations which gained great power and blew it because they did not know how to use it or abused it. That is why I call this the Age of Stupid. No new external threat will take us down. We will do this by ourselves to ourselves. And we will deserve it because at each and every point our decline was avoidable and there were viable alternatives available which we, through our political leaders, ignored and/or ridiculed.

And in case anyone was still operating under the illusion that the dems are an opposition party,

the coup is probably complete, the democrats have probably been co-opted into the ranks of the neocon robber barons

I think Ms. Maddow’s approach is best.

It’s time to refer to lies, as “lies.”

Stop dancing around it and start using the word.

They are Lying. That makes them “liars.”

And the smiling face of Hillary Clinton will be there to comfort everyone and say “I tried to tell you”.

Obama is still running around calling the man who calls him a traitor who wants to “lose in Iraq” an honorable man.

Someone tell me I’m wrong, but how do you call a man a liar that you’ve been vouching for his integrity for 6 months often and in public?

-G

why aren’t the airwaves banging away?

mornin’ perris

the Obama campaign is running regional ads, targeting specific audiences and/or issues -

Yet no one dares admit out loud that 9/11 was the start of the coup, and that it was integral to it.

uggg

I am taking a long walk, looking at the clouds

see everyone later

It’s the Gallop poll, which trends GOP in its sample. Don’t panic yet — it’s too early, and we don’t know the make-up of their sample yet. Patience, grasshopper…

Look at this row of headlines from Drudge, the guy who rules the medias world:

Obamas verbal slip fuels his critics: ‘My Muslim faith’…

Says he considered joining military after high school…

Says could delay rescinding tax cuts…

Says was too flip on abortion question…

-G

would not have be the same Marketplace of Ideas.

Oops.

They’ve been all over the place, there just isn’t much media reportage on it because they’ve been in the herd “intro to Sarah” mentality since last week.

This should work out well when she’s in the VP office

Sarah Palin’s churches are actively involved in a resurgent movement that was declared heretical by the Assemblies of God in 1949.

And there will be no do-over for Hillary Clinton. If Obama does not win this election, there will not be a Hillary 2012…too many in the legion of factions of the anybody-but-Hillary wing of the Democratic party. Ignore that reality at your peril.

I mean, saying that he was “flip” about THE burning issue in US politics?

It strains the mind. He didn’t have a good answer for THAT question.

-G

Here’s a simple question that calls for a logical answer…

When a BBC reporter doing a live stand-up on 9/11 reports that Building 7 has just collapsed, making it the third building to have done so on that day – yet the building doesn’t ACTUALLY collapse for another 15 minutes, what is that circumstantial evidence of?

Do we know how McLame voted on this issue? (CHIP)

While we are judiciously studying an old reality, a new one is being created.

-G

I don’t know. Why would polls swing the way they do from meaningless event, like the Republican Convention, to meaningless event? Why are we hearing that Palin’s hairstyle is being copied like Dorothy Hamil’s was and her style glass frames are flying off the selves?

In my down moments, and today is one, I feel like a big part of the electorate is just to silly and frivolous for Democracy to work. Every election, it seems to come down to 10-15 percent of registered voters who are know so little as to remain undecided, and yet feel some compunction to vote. Ah well, maybe they’ll reassure me like they did during the impeachment when public opinon never bought off on the Republican propaganda.

I was surprised here in TX to see a McSame ad. Don’t recall the pitch. But that is quite odd here. Usually we can go through the whole season and not see Presidential ads. Something has changed….we can hope.

!2 years of Catholic School!!

BTW if it hasn’t been mentioned before Sarah Palin has dodged the bullet. The Republican dominated Alaskan legislature investigation of troopergate has announced it will not subpoena her since this would be “disrespectful” to a Vice-Presidential candidate. So basically she has been given a Get Out of Jail card by state Republicans. I never saw that coming, not.

Ya unfortunate isn’t it, the opposite happens as well.

Before the Lamont campaign 2 years ago I would have thought this absurd. But knowing how they helped Lieberman to sandbag Lamont while looking like they were helping, I would no longer be surprised at this.

From the NYT article:

Kevin Griffis, the Obama campaign’s Virginia spokesman, said the release appeared to be a good-faith effort to convey state guidelines, not a politically motivated effort to stop voting by students.

Because everyone is acting in as good faith as we are.

Mr. Wertz said the initial release had been written by an intern whom he asked to summarize the guidelines.

Because, when caught, always blame a low-level munchkin.

Oh and the link:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi….._on_tr.php

Spakovsky goes on to recommend:

1. Make absentee ballots much harder to obtain, must show ID to get. Can’t be third party. (There go the poor, elderly, infirm, etc.)

2. Require proof of ID submitted with ballot. (Easier to cage due to minor errors, change of address, etc.)

3. Notarize or witness (2) signatures on absentee ballot. (that would be easy, wouldn’t it!)

4. Require signature sample every 5 years.

5. Campaign workers and candidates can’t distribute absentee ballots. (Make it harder, still)

6. Civil rights organizations refrain from calling racial or political motives to vote fraud efforts.

Do these people fear democracy, or what?

Lamont was defeated not by Lieberman, but by AIPAC.

Of course……

America is plunging into open madness. After this weekend a pall of gloom has settled over me.

I think that I am going to have to tune out.

After listening to a religious Radio Hutu broadcast in Northern Maine, I have gotten so depressed.

-G

Texas is labeled “likely Republican” by all the big houses, but that is contradicted by polling in downticket fed and state races

and there is the no small matter of unprecedented levels of voter registration nationally – McLiar is worried about all those brown people in the Lone Star state :D

And we will deserve it because at each and every point our decline was avoidable and there were viable alternatives available which we, through our political leaders, ignored and/or ridiculed.

well, you are welcome to blame me for 40+ years of living with my head in the sand and for getting it all wrong since if you think that is the case. but please do not blame my nephews for something they had no hand in creating and yet will suffer the consequences of.

AWOL as usual

Yes. This has been another edition of…

Given his voting record this year, I don’t believe he was there.

Yep, they’ve schooled her well on the I’m-a-Republican-so-I’m-not-accountable schtick. Good Grief.

Do you have a link for that where it is shown empirically and substantiated by data, interviews and such — or is that just a guess? Because if it’s just a guess, I’d start such sentences with “I think” lest they be misconstrued.

Dana Bash on CNN: Stunning crowds for McCain now that he’s got Palin on the ticket…they’re keeping her along [thus proving my homeblog point yesterday that McCain needs others to prop him up…can’t stand on his own two feet…but I digress….]

Bash says she’s talking to the women…and they are Republican women who weren’t so sure about McCain, weren’t so sure about working for him, but now they’re coming to hear Palin.

They ought to hear Susan Eisenhower from Colbert. Just my thought.

Oh, you noticed I switched to CNN? Yes, except for the prog-block, yes I did.

Talking from a conservative viewpoint, why are either of you upset with the Republicans/Conservatives? They are simply fighting for their points/ideas, it should be the Liberal/Dems that you are mad at…they are the ones that need to convince the other side that an idea is a good one. You guys should be tearing this congress apart. They have done very little to support anything any of you stand for (Although they seem to give good speeches). This is about winning over others based off your ideas. If your ideas are bad, why is anyone going to support them?

BTW, I have pointed this out here before, the Republicans lost the last election because they lost their way and their support of conservative ideas. During the Bush administration, they did not control their spending, a lot of them acted like out of control kindergartners going after an ice cream truck. It was the conservatives that did not vote in that election which allowed the dems to enter. I am going to be interested to see how the Republicans try to show themselves as being ‘fiscally responsible’ when ‘tax-and-spend’ dems where much more responsible than they were.

Subpoenas can be issued for the half dozen or so others who last week suddenly decided ‘in concert’ to refuse to testify. Combine that with willing testifiers and I imagine a finding can still be made without her agreeing to testify despite ample opportunity to step up. It almost looks worse if she refuses to testify and a subsequent thorough report is damning.

The USA poll 10% lead is among ‘likely voters’ which I understand are those who have voted in the last two elections. It doesn’t account for newly registered voters -the numbers of which have been very large since the last election. Also, the GOP wipeout in the ‘06 midterms is one glimmer that the elections aren’t irretrievably rigged.

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Voter issues will be handled by the Bush/Rove/Gonzales Justice Dept.

-G

Lamont was defeated not by Lieberman, but by AIPAC.

Disagree. Lamont was defeated by Republicans.

Lamont was defeated not by Lieberman, but by AIPAC.

Disagree. Lamont was defeated by Republicans.

AIPAC by any other name is still AIPAC. Who was Sarah Palin’s very first meeting with in St. Paul?

What does Sarah Palin have to do with the Lamont loss?

Loohoo, Rush Holt’s Bill, designated H.R.5036 was apparently too democratic for the House…

Latest Major Action: 4/15/2008 Failed of passage/not agreed to in House. Status: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Failed by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 239 – 178

btw, dis you know that Rush was a five time undefeated Jeopardy champion?

Trolling everywhere today…Hmmm

Poor tact.

Hugh, not all of us are in that catagory of Stupid. Yes, the younger of us have plenty of reason to ignore or be incredibly cynical about a system that’s been gamed as long as we’ve been alive. I’m only 31, this is ALL i know. But i’m still doing what i can to change and i’m staying informed. I can’t help the fact that this crap started long before i was even born!

I’ve been voting since i was 18, and i’m good about my registration wherever i move to. More than i can say for many my age. I may have to move in the next 6 weeks but it doesn’t mean i wont’ find out where i can vote AT first before i go. Since even if i change my registration, it’ll be in flux until after elections. I’ll probably change that after the elections. Especially with MI’s laws.

Christy–you mentioned diet yesterday, and I don’t know if this will help, but I thought I’d throw it out there–

Sugar is an issue, and I see you’re already on board with that–another issue for some is high sulfur. You might try avoiding high sulfur foods such as beans, cabbage, broccoli, peanuts, brussel sprouts, eggs, and dairy.

Hope this helps.

When I say we I mean we as a country. There are always innocents who were not involved in the descending madness or rational voices which warned against it but that does not alter the fundamental reality. There were Germans who saw the coming of the night of Nazism, and there were innocents in Germany too but this does not remove or alleviate the responsibility of Germans for Nazism.

Sorry for the violation of Godwin’s law but it is becoming less and less applicable as we go further and further off the deep end.

I saw one of these ass-holes standing outside of a Sams Club,in Missouri, this summer. I stood next to him, and told the people he had tempted to his petition that he was a liar, that this was a scam, and to read ALL of the pages carefully before signing. He got tired of my interference, and left.

Senator Clinton Campaigning for Obama in Florida today

may get even more of the usual coverage as she is addressing Machinists Union

Start with Mel Sembler. Yes, there are any number of links to articles that reveal that Mel Sembler hosted a fundraiser for Lieberman in Palm Beach. Sembler is a life long Republican, and very close to GHW Bush. Sembler is the key to any number of events, not the least of which include the Niger forgery (with Ledeen) and Sembler was also the head of the Libby Legal Defense Fund.

Sembler was at the heart of the two biggest deceptions to ensure at the invasion of Iraq, a project brought to you by AIPAC.

How many links would you like for me to demonstrate all of this?

Thanks, mucho — I’ve been trying to follow an anti-inflammatory diet and it’s helped tremendously. Really appreciate the tips, though. I think it’s one of those things that you just have to test out for yourself and see how you react individually. Thus far, though, just a few changes have made a huge difference for me.

oooh, a big phat FDL good on ya !

they have actually been telling prospective signees of color that it provides “equality”

Fox crowing that they had the best ratings for the RNC convention [surprise, surprise]. Has anybody done a comparison on total/raw audience numbers, RNC vs DNC? Any analysis of demographics?

Not looking for deep in the weeds info, but something more than the facemask stuff.

Subpoenas can be issued for the half dozen or so others who last week suddenly decided ‘in concert’ to refuse to testify. Combine that with willing testifiers and I imagine a finding can still be made without her agreeing to testify despite ample opportunity to step up. It almost looks worse if she refuses to testify and a subsequent thorough report is damning.

What this lets Palin out of is a perjury rap because if she were deposed under oath she would either have to admit to making previous false statements, repeat them, or take the 5th. None of which are exactly the stuff you want to see your VP candidate doing immediately before an election.

We did copious reporting on Mel Sembler, about whom I am quite familiar. I’m asking if there is empirical data regarding the fact that AIPAC — and AIPAC alone, seemingly in your construction — was responsible for Lamont’s loss. Because we covered that race quite closely, and that’s not what I remember at all. From any of the data. So I’m asking you, do you have sourcing on that claim that substantiate’s it specifically not through conjecture but specifically maps it out mathemetically or empirically somehow?

maybe we ought to just declare that the age of Godwin’s Law is over.

i can’t disagree re “responsibility” – but deserving? no, that is too far for me.

You’re welcome! Diet is so important. And it’s not easy “decoding” what is causing the problem. I get cranky sometimes because it’s such a pain not getting to eat the foods I like. I cheat with eggs, cheese, and chocolate, but I know that I’ll pay for it in the end. :(

Siun’s upstairs

Ollie North Rides Again – To An Afghan Massacre

Hugh @ 80 – I follow you re perjury vs telling the truth and the importance of her testifying. I just don’t think that it’s a lost cause if she doesn’t. Perhaps the biggest result of the stonewall is the fast tracking that occurred. Given a choice, it would be better for her to have to answer pre-election questions about her involvement to the press after a fast tracked investigation than for her to testify and have the conclusion made public after the election. She shouldn’t be able to claim ”I cannot commment on an ongoing investigation.” There’s enough ’there’ there for the press,if willing*, to inquire about and potentially put her in a spot of bother.

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Yes siree, that’s the crap he was doling out. I could tell he wanted to lash out at me, but I think he was afraid it would expose his fraud further. So he just decided to relocate. I would have followed him, but I had my kids with me. I think they had seen and heard enough.

I’m a bit late with this, but I notice that the SJC is having a hearing tomorrow afternoon on protecting voters’ rights in the 2008 election.

Agree that the morningis off to a depressing start, leading to visions of Weimar, Reichstag fires, and the final descent into nuclear hell. But at least the sun is up.

I think it is too soon to become despondent over the polls. They are picking up the return of the Fundies to the Republican camp, which is what the Palin nomination was designed to achieve. Obama still has the advantage in money and in the electoral map. Whose shoes would you rather be in at this point, his or McStain’s? The movement in the polls illustrates the lability of the electorate, and their response to massive advertising. This time out we can match the advertising war, so in the degree that people have decided on mass that they don’t want a Black Man in the White House — which is certainly a possibility — we are still ok, and the McCain wave will pass. McCain did not succeed in branding Obama the way the thugs succeeding in branding Kerry last time out. That’s the key to this election. If Obama can retain his brand as a ‘uniter’, he should weather the current storm. It takes a lot of discipline on his part and the part of his surrogates, but I think they have it.

Let the games begin.

The problem with Obama’s campaign is that it is morphing into Kerry’s campaign. Obama should have had ads ready the day Palin’s speech and after tne RNC bund rally. The Republicans have dominated the news cycle since the Palin nomination and these early polls show it’s having an affect. Is Obama waiting for a knockout punch in the debates? By that time most will have locked into their choice and will not be moved. Don’t expect the corporate media to begin “reporting” in an honest and fair minded manner. From Gore to Kerry to Obama the MSM will continue to carry water for the Republicans.

I’m asking if there is empirical data regarding the fact that AIPAC — and AIPAC alone, seemingly in your construction — was responsible for Lamont’s loss.

Interesting that you would require “empirical data” from me to justify my comments above. Why? And why characterize my construction rather than simply taking it at face value. On e of my comments above implies that “Republican Party” and “AIPAC” are merely two names for the same agenda, though you seemingly did not read it that way.

When to state emphatically that Bin Laden exists (meaning he’s alive) – or at least imply as much by allowing the McCain camp to spin their narrative about following him to the gates of hell, without questioning the entire premise – you do so without any empirical data that the man is in fact even alive.

In fact, Bin Laden is dead. 9/11 WAS an inside job. These are facts. In Fact, AIPAC is the reason we went into Iraq, and are likely to bomb Iran. These aren’t statements that require shading or hedging from my perspective. I’ve confirmed them as facts, directly with the people who know the truth.

That’s why I state them as facts. I can prove them if given the opportunity.

prior comment (par. 3) was intended to start out:

“When you state”

In fact, Bin Laden is dead. 9/11 WAS an inside job. These are facts.

You will of course, allow the rest of us to find those facts for ourselves and not rely on your conclusions as proof, right?

As a poll worker, I get people all day long (ALWAYS repubicans) who insist on showing me their ID and jabber about voter fraud. Our supervisor, who’s been doing this for more than 20 years, tells anyone who asks that he has never seen an instance of that type of voter fraud but has seen many attempts to register people surreptitiously with the wrong party (USUALLY republicans). My sister even had her reg switched to R last time she voted. She’s not sure how it happened but would never in a million years have done it on her own.

New Blue Texan upstairs!
These Sexist And Elitist Attacks On Sarah Palin Have To Stop

So, I should put you down for a “no particular citation, no” then?

I asked because when I make declarative statements on specific claims, i try and back them up with data, evidence and source material to lay out exactly where my reasoning comes from, why I feel that way, what other sourcing materials agree with my assessment and such. And having covered the Lamont race in minute detail, your claims did not — and do not — match with what I know, with what I saw, and with what I understood. There were a myriad of factors, not the least of which because the Dem leadership failed to coalesce around Lamont against their dear buddy Joe, which gave the on-the-fence voters of CT permission not to do so either; the inopportune vacation that Lamont took right after the primary which, although he was exhausted, stifled the substantial momentum he had gained from his win; the Big Dog statement on Larry King which undercut Lamont’s support from Dem leaderhip in the state; the street money and other initiatives that Lieberman took using old pol tactics in a lot of the urban neighborhoods; and a whole host of other factors none of which directly go back to AIPAC as far as I know — again, I’d need evidence to say otherwise. Solid evidence.

So if you were basing your statement on specific evidence, I wanted to see it.

But, alas, while AIPAC and the neocon faction of the GOP have divergent interests in spades, is is not the same as saying that AIPAC caused Ned Lamont to lose the election. And that’s why I wanted to see sourcing — if I’m going to challenge what I know to be true, I want to do so based on evidence in front of me — not just a hunch or surmising. Call it my lawyer training, but that’s how I evaluate things. And merely saying something out loud does not make it true, no matter how much you may not like the actors involved or doubt their intent or otherwise.

Of course everyone is free to perform their own research and draw their own conclusions. I’ve done mine, and I know exactly what my own opinion is, and why.

Many on these blogs make emphatic statements without providing empirical data, as that standard is too high a threshold to expect of anyone not privy to classified information. I dare say that none hold the main stream media to that high a standard. How many times have you heard them parrot the line:

“no terrorist attacks have occurred on US soil since 9/11″

A hundred?

It’s simply a lie – though they repeat it almost daily, ignoring the anthrax terror attacks, which regardless of who actually carried them out were in fact Terror Attacks by our own government’s definition.

When Benazir Bhutto told BBC Reporter, David Frost, that Bin Laden had been killed, and by whom, no one requested empirical data of her…they simply killed her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

Anyone who enters into any conversation online about tracking down Bin Laden should first have to prove that he’s alive – or at least mention the possibility that he is in fact dead. Otherwise they are engaged in promoting a government-created lie.

I live in such a small little town that everyone pretty much knows everyone. And since we’ve been voting at the same polling place for ages, they know me by name when I walk in the door. If someone tried to claim they were me, the sweet folks who work the door would smack them upside the head. One of the many benefits of living here, I suppose. *G*

Plus, that person would be shamed out of town for being a liar and a cheat…

Dem leadership failed to coalesce around Lamont against their dear buddy Joe

It is and has been my contention that Joe is the face of AIPAC. Lamont did not defeat Lieberman in the primary, he defeated AIPAC.

As you mention, the Democratic party to did not leap to Lamont’s defense and promote his victory. In fact, one day after Lamont defeated Joe, Lamont’s name was pushed completely out of the news cycle by Karl Rove, the Terrorist….

When Lieberman lost in the primary to Lamont, it wasn’t 36 hours later that Rove launched the False – False Flag Terror Threat in London.

During the next 24 hour news cycle while the headlines falsely screamed:

“TERROR IN THE SKIES”

The media quietly released two Israel-related stories under the radar …

The first was that a US Submariner named Ariel Joseph Weinmann had been arrested 6 MONTHS EARLIER for Espionage on behalf of “a foreign country.”

12 hours later, the story broke that the Two AIPAC Officials charged with Espionage in the Franklin/AIPAC spy scandal were still going to face trial, despite their attorney’s best efforts to have the case thrown out.

These three matters, Lamont’s victory over AIPAC’s Lieberman, the revelation of yet another Israeli spy caught passing naval secrets to Israel, and the AIPAC Spy trial moving forward ALL hit the news at the same time – and were ALL quickly buried by a fully-complicity “news” media.

If you think these events are unrelated, and that Lamont disappeared from the headlines by coincidence – in light of the subsequent admission that the entire scare was a hoax – well, I opt not to attribute these matters to coincidence.

Speaking of GOP games, this “Fannie and Freddie” situation is an example of how “privatizing” every government function is the wrong road to go. Seems like there should be hay to be made over this blunder that is certain to cost us all billions of dollars.

Let’s not forget our troops! You know, the ones donating to Obama 6 to 1 over McCain. How do we ensure their votes are counted – and in a timely manner. If it’s very close…I shudder to think of a 2000 rerun.