There are some very personal reasons that I support a woman's right to choose -- based on her circumstances, her history, and all the factors that go into making such a difficult decision. A lot of it has to do with my own history. And also the difficulties I have seen in the lives of women and children that I have met throughout my legal practice.
Let me start with the personal. Technically -- at least by the standard definition of abortion as an induced termination of a pregnancy -- I have had one. It was a medical necessity, due to my life being at risk because of a complication, and one of the most agonizing times of our lives.
Let me explain: we had been through several years of fertility agony at that point -- endless tests, poking and prodding, injections -- you name it. Before Thanksgiving that year, I began to experience some nausea and other symptoms of pregnancy, but we had been fooled by that before with no resulting pregnancy, so I was trying not to get my hopes up as I bought yet another pregnancy test two-fer box.
We were overjoyed to get a positive result. Beyond joy, in fact, because it was the very first time in our several years of marriage I had gotten pregnant.
I called our doc, who worked me in for an emergency appointment, to do a series of blood and other tests, only to face the nightmare of a roller coaster of hormone fluctuations and more testing. By the time we were done with all the ultrasounds and the daily blood tests for over a month, I looked like a heroin addict with palsy -- and we reached the inescapable conclusion that the pregnancy was a danger to my life, and would never become viable.
The termination of my first pregnancy occurred on Christmas Eve. It was wretched, miserable and devastating. And it nearly killed me emotionally.
My husband was amazing and tender, but nothing -- and I mean nothing -- could fill the void of having to end the only pregnancy I'd ever managed to have. I could feel the watered down methotrexate course through my system as the nurse injected the glowing, green liquid (also used for chemo treatments, as it kills rapidly multiplying cells). I spent the next three days, curled up in a ball with my dachshund, sobbing until I slept fitful dreams of the child we would never have. I can still feel it.
Why tell you something so personal? Especially when it is no one's business but ours?
Because it is no one's business but ours how we made the decision, what medical issues were at stake, and what choices we made together. Which is the point of choice. No one but the people involved in the individual circumstances can truly know why the decision is made -- to terminate, to keep, to risk.
No matter the difficulty, it was the correct medical decision for us. By ending the pregnancy to save my life, and after more fertility hell and miscarriages, I got pregnant with our daughter.
I was in the high risk category. We almost lost her at two and a half months, and I spent the remainder of the pregnancy on bed rest or very limited movement. We did a lot of testing and ultrasounds, including a series of scans that told us there was a problem potentially with her brain development -- but they couldn't tell for certain. I spent hours researching the issue online, talking with my doctors and other medical professionals trying to discern what this would mean for our child and for us.
There was a substantial risk of severe problems for her, but we chose to have her. We chose to have faith that the scans were merely an anomaly, and that whatever happened, we would love her with everything we had because she was our miracle child.
She just started kindergarten last week. And she is thriving and fine. In fact, she's more than fine.
Again, we made a choice, based on our own circumstances and what we saw as the best thing to do for us. Choosing to keep your pregnancy is as much as choice as the alternative -- and also a deeply personal one between you, your spouse, your doctors, and whatever conversations with God you may choose to have. Outside of that, it is no one's business, because no one outside of it can possibly know all the agonizing issues involved.
Which brings me to my legal experience within the criminal justice and family law systems.
Unless you have been around women who have been beaten down and abused (men, too, but for this discussion, since women carry the children, let's stick to them), or children who have been abused physically, emotionally and sexually, whose families struggle with financial despair and potential starvation each and every day of their lives, you can't fully comprehend what kinds of issues may come into play in any individual decision where the circumstances are less than ideal.
I'm talking about children who long for the day school starts again so that they can get at least two decent meals a day during the week. Or a 14 year old child who is brutally raped by her father in the middle of the night, only to find weeks later that she is pregnant -- not by her own choosing -- with his child. Imagine having to carry that child to term, when you are a child yourself and forcibly impregnated with your own sister or brother, feeling that child move within you as a reminder every time of your rape -- and then tell me that this mother's life (a child herself) doesn't matter at all, only the potential life within her.
I've said this before:
...I don't want people to have more abortions. If I could, I'd wave a wand and make all babies be born under ideal circumstances to parents who would love and care for them.
But I happen to live in the all-too-real world, where sexual abuse and violent rape and all those other nasty things happen, where children wake up and wonder if there will be any food for them to eat -- right here in the US of A -- and where other things that most people can never even imagine happen within families and neighborhoods and all over the place.
And I know enough to know this: I don't speak for God, and neither should anyone else. That's why it is an individual choice -- you make peace with your own soul, your own faith and your own family and friends based on your own, individual and hideous circumstances in each case -- and beyond that, it's no one's business....
Now you know why I feel so strongly about this issue. Because I've lived it and because my entire adult life has forced this issue to the forefront. Life is messy and people get caught up in situations that are not of their own making far too often. We never asked for an ectopic pregnancy, but we got one nonetheless. Pro-life folks want you to think that abortion is the only facet of being pro-choice but they could not be more wrong or dishonest.
Being pro-choice is to be compassionate and honest about the world around us, and to value the life of the mother just as much as the life within her -- and to trust the women and others involved in each circumstance to weigh all of the issues involved. Because that is what they already do. Most of the women that I have ever known who faced unenviable difficulties in these decisions chose to have their child where it was medically possible. Which is...a choice.
Pretending otherwise is simply to lie. And of those who choose to have an abortion, who am I to judge them when I've had to make that choice myself out of medical necessity? There are any number of reasons that I would never, ever choose to have an abortion, but again, that would be my choice. And after reading this, I needed to say that out loud.
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Thank you for your courage and honesty. No body business but my own…how true. And thank God for the lovely Peanut; she is in such good hands. My best.
Thanks Bev. Sometimes, you just need to vent a little among friends…
And we are awfully, awfully blessed to have The Peanut. *sniffle*
Amen sister.
To have people who choose to redefine torture as “enhanced interrogation techniques” dictating to women what to do with their bodies because they think their judgement is morally superior. . . . . . well, ‘nuf said.
And we’ve been vicariously watching the peanut grow up through you and could not be more pleased for you both.
You know, it is almost as though she has lots of Aunties and Uncles out there, laughing along with me on the yogurt smeared doggie days of yore, celebrating the kindergarten milestone. :)
Great post. Boy Christy, you really went through the wringer…I’m so glad that you ended up with a successful pregnancy and the Peanut.
Thank you, Christy, for showing your courage telling a very personal story.
The Republic view of abortion is cartoonish and motivated mostly by their desire to gain votes. When they had complete control of the government, they could have passed any number of laws. Yet, they did nothing. They want abortion to be there as an issue, election after election, for them to exploit. It is an issue to be exploited, not an issue to be solved.
It’s difficult to see how that will ever change.
I’ve said it here before, but Mr. Rev. who once worked for Planned Parenthood in Seattle told me the story the director at the time told him—the leader of the anti choice folks who constantly picketed and harassed the patients at the clinic called her one day and wanted to meet with her after hours. It seems the daughter of the anti somehow managed to get herself pregnant and needed an appointment to terminate the pregnancy. The PP director was, of course, willing to make the appt. and to insure confidentiality. On the way out the door, she couldn’t help but ask the anti how she could possibly have such a double standard. The reply was “my daughter isn’t a whore like your other clients.”
Kinda says it all.
Hi Christy,
If I could create an ideal world it would be one where a couple (both) would have to take a pill to create a fetus. I do understand about wanting one very much and not getting there. My son and DIL lost two before they discovered that my DIL had a very rare heart condition. By taking shots every single day she was able to carry the baby to term. And then a second.
The discovery of the condition also answered another question - why so many of the people in her family had died so young. Now many are receiving the help they need.
it’s their main cash cow. Outlaw it and the money and energy dries up. Won’t happen. Actually it doesn’t need to happen. Abortions are so out of reach for the majority of the population already, they’ve done most of their work.
Life is messy.
As is Democracy messy & disordered. We need a lot of courage to get on with being in this Democracy, as much as we need courage to continue with our lives here on earth & not give up. That’s just the way it is for all us, all beings. Our fortitude & tenacity is the reason we’re all still here.
Thank you for sharing your family’s story, CHS.
Thank you for sharing that intensely personal story, Christy. I can’t imagine not having you and the Peanut with us; we’re affected, too.
I wish I could lay my hands on an essay written for a medical journal in the last 5 years; it was a case study about a mother who arrived at the hospital in premature labor with twins. One of the twins was dead and partially presenting; the other was still alive and at risk if the dead twin was not removed and the cervix stitched. The mother was at risk, too, due to infection. The catch was that the process to remove the twin would have been called abortion, and it would be illegal if Palin and her like had their way. The article was written by a doctor — and he was the father, trying to remain emotionally distant in writing the piece, but obviously distraught at the loss of one child and the threat to the remaining child and his wife and their mother. It was heartbreaking to read, and another perfect example of the lack of compassion behind the absolutist anti-choice crowd. (If anyone can find that article, I would greatly appreciate it, have struggled for a year to locate it.)
Christy, even though your case is the classic example of an abortion that is “okay,” it is still brave of you to tell your story and open yourself up to attacks from the nutcases.
Of course women should be free to decide what happens to their own bodies. The Palin position assumes that women don’t deserve that kind of respect.
Your story is a reminder that life in the real world doesn’t always play out as it might in the world of magical thinking.
I did a post on that — will see if I can dig up the link. Hold on…it was out of JAMA, if I remember correctly.
That is so sad…Isn’t that the log in one’s own eye. Back in the day, I worked in LA while abortion was still illegal there, and legal in TX. The drama to see young girls, or not so young, trying to scrape together money for the trip. Jeeeez
The discussion might change if wealthy Republics who have had abortions or have caused women to choose abortions were exposed. There’s probably quite a list.
I think it might have been on Kos…you could do a search under diaries with key words. I remember reading it.
Oh Christy, thank you so much for this post. This wonderful post. Tears and wonder.
My sister her husband went through a version of this- and I know it is not as easy as some people might assume, even leaving out the extra details. They ended up adopting daughter #1. And, then, a few years later, having discovered another doc, tried once last time, or two or three. Daughter #2!
It’s really been wonderful to watch how they absolutely make no difference between the two, well, I mean they do take into account the different personalities and gifts, but that’s it!
Thank you again, Christy.
When my first wife and I were in school she was asst director of a PP clinic. Had a very similar experience but not the whore bit. He was an atty and leader in the anti community. Quit afterwards.
thanks, Christy. that was a strong and brave thing to do.
i am teary as i write this.
rah rah for you and bully to the peanut.
My father was a general practitioner and said he never performed an abortion but back when they were illegal, he was the one that had to “clean up the mess” when there were injuries and infection. This summer there was an article in the NY Times by a retired physician that expressed it well (I can’t get the link to work, but the address is the usual nytimes address plus /2008/06/03/health/views/03essa.html)
Wow. Just f*kin’ wow. I knew these people had a really narrow world view but that’s unbelievable. I worked at a crisis center for a few years and have seen and referred a number of parents with pregnant daughters to PP. That comment really blows my mind.
Good heavens I’ve written a lot of posts, Rayne — this may take a little while to find…
i remember in college how folks in the chaplain’s office would help classmates who needed to take a trip. their blessing was that we had the resources to help them in a time when abortion was illegal, but thousands of others suffered or died.
We were just about to start the process of adoption when we found out I was pregnant with The Peanut. Go figure…
((( Christy & Family )))
The Peanut is doubly blessed to have you & Mr. Reddhead as her parents
The other story is about the Clergy Consultation Service on Abortion run in NY in the ’60s and then spread into other states. Started by a Baptist minister, Howard Moody, they insisted on listing themselves in the phone book. We asked him about having their phones tapped since what they were doing—referring women to clean providers—was illegal. He said that they were tapped for about 2 weeks. Once the “law” found out that some of the women calling in were wives, daughters and nieces of judges and of highly ranked police officers, the tap was turned off.
A-ha. Found it Rayne — here you go.
Speaking of adoption, two questions:
1) How many of the forced birth folks at the Rethug convention have adopted children?
2) How many of the Queen of Mean’s Rethug supporters in Alaska have adopted children?
Any time I ask a forced birther why didn’t they adopt the answer is always, “Because we don’t have to.” Not too self-centered.
Sorry to make you sniffly right along with me, btw…
My sister and her husband were unable to conceive so they adopted a boy, then she got preg and had another boy, and then again, and then again.
We’re all sniffly reading this … {{{ group hug }}}
I can only imagine the hell that was trying to patch things up after a botched surgery in such a delicate area. I’ve always wondered how doctors in your dad’s position managed not to maim the people doing it, because that would have been so difficult not to be incredibly angry on the back end of things.
Thanks Christy.
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I’ve been told that happens often - a couple gives up or decides to adopt - and then there your are….
Oh, and Christy? You are amazing.
Those who would presume to dictate to a pregnant woman what her “choice” must be . . . in my book, they are dangerously close to playing God, proclaiming “I am in charge of your life.”
Those who do this out of their “Christian faith” might want to ponder the first commandment a bit more.
Thanks, Christy, for this powerful post.
Believe me when I say that it was not an easy post to write. But it sort of came out all in a piece, and it needed to be said. So, I said it.
Christy,
I could not finish your post because I am fighting back tears from reading of your heartbreak and impossible decision and I have to go to a meeting in few minutes. I will finish it tonight when I return.
I went through a lot with fertility treatments and was blessed with a beautiful boy - he’s 4 1/2 now — so I always relate when you speak about the Peanut! God bless you and choice!
Been there with you, sister - the tests, the pieces of you that they cut out and send away, the “we don’t know why this is not working”, etc. One of these days, you and I will sit down with a drink. But for me, the issue really is - if the government can tell a woman that she ‘must’ bring a pregnancy to term(no matter what), then they also have the power to tell a woman that she ‘can’t’ - and I’m totally against that.
Christy, I live in the south and was asked awhile back about my views on choice. Not the way it was phrased but anyway, I explained that years ago in another city a child was born because his mother had a choice. My friend had given birth to a girl who had no chance of making it out of intensive care. The baby died two days later. After a series of genetic tests she was told that it might take multiple pregnancies before she could give birth to a viable child. Because of choice she decided to try one more time. She gave birth to a beautiful boy with all it’s fingers and toes and full of life. Sometimes choice gives us our peanuts.
With Obama pretty much saying that the D party is the party of choice and the Rethugs saying they’re the party of no choice, the election becomes, de facto, a referendum on the abortion issue. The state by state totals are going to be very interesting since most states have already settled the issue for themselves.
That’s always been a sticking point for me, too, Peterr. Who do they think helped get them pregnant via rape or incest in the first place? Do they think that God wanted that to happen? Does he really have time for every moment of minutiae? I’ve never been able to get a coherent answer on that one from anyone when I’ve asked it — if things happen for a reason, and if we have individual will along with faith and a connection to God, then who is someone else to butt in and say “your connection is crap, only mine is good — too bad for your rape.”
I mean, honestly, how much hubris can one person possess? And how little compassion? I’m not saying every pregnancy of rape should end in abortion — not in the least. But it isn’t my choice or my life at stake in someone else’s decision, either, and it’s none of my business.
I always wonder how many steps away from the Handmaid’s Tale we’ve come…
Christy, thank you for your post. Your willingness to share your story, the problems and ultimate triumph are inspiring - thanks again
No need to apologize Christy- it’s a happy tears thing as to the positive outcome.
And, the very last time, my sister was convinced that the in vivo had failed for daughter #2. They had been looking to move, and friend found them just the right house, so they immediately put their house on the market- and it sold in a week, with the new owners wanting virtually immediate occupancy. They closed the deal to sell their house, and two days later my sister found out yes, she was pregnant for real! They were expecting the sale to take about 4 months! So, they closed the deal on their new home, which was, uh, in a GREAT location, but basically unlivable. So, lived in a rental apartment for 4 months, with all their stuff in storage. Go figure, indeed!
((Christy))
((Mr ReddHedd))
(( Peanut! ))
I have to say, the juxtaposition of this post and watching over the top of my computer while The Peanut and her daddy work on “homework” for her kindergarten class is a little surreal and awfully comforting. (The “homework” is learning to draw horizontal lines. *g*)
((Christy and family))
Oh, and Christy, sorry for above adding my family details. I didn’t mean that as a distraction, at all. More like to make the general point that people who have had no direct experience with this (or closely indirect as mine was) really cannot fathom what “this” is all about.
Thank you for sharing this Christy…and in such an eloquent way. It’s a powerful message. And thank goodness for the Peanut as your happier ending.
We cannot go back to the days of unsafe, illegal abortions. A college acquaintance of mine had one and was sterile as a result. She later married the baby’s father and they were able to adopt.
However, her life was tough and am convinced she had severe PTSD. She stepped in front of a bus when she was 56.
Someone needs to ask Ms. Mooselini what she would do if she had a very high up ectopic pregnancy. (Of course she is so uninformed she wouldn’t know what that was) Would she choose to suffer a guaranteed slow and excruciating death along with that of the child, leaving her other healthy children motherless?
Christy,
Thanks for your candor and insight!
Now we know a little more about why Peanut is so precious to you. May you both, and Mr. ReddHedd, live long and prosper!
Bob in HI
Actually, I believe that the potential death of the mother is the one exception that Governor Palin makes in her (almost) absolute ban on abortion.
OMG, well that changes my opinion of her entirely. /s
I love this post, Christy. This choice thing has been my main issue for many years. It’s not really about abortion to me - it’s about a woman’s privacy and her right to make decisions. The R’s treat it as if women are stupid and couldn’t possibly know what’s best for themselves. Makes my blood boil.
All the best to your family - enjoy every minute.
You know, I was struck by how much you value life, Christy–how you get such joy out of little Peanut…just as I have with my little “surprise” when I thought I was done having kids…and I thought “how ironic”…
A brave post. More of us women need to do this. The right needs to demonize women who get abortions. We hurt women’s reproductive rights when we do the “safe, legal, rare” argument. Abortion will never be rare. I too had an abortion, partly for medical reasons. I would have terminated in any case, but the location of the fetus made it a necessity. I did not feel ashamed or apologetic, so when I started to bleed before the schedule procedure, I went to the first emergency room I could find. They. Would. Not. Treat. Me. I was informed this after being asked insulting questions about my sexual practices. I was essentially told to hope the spontaneous abortion would reverse itself. I asked the doctors whether I could possibly go full term while making clear that in any case I had no intention of doing so. I asked him to tell me to my face that it was even possible. He had to answer that it was highly unlikely. I asked him what it would take for his hospital to perform an abortion. He said the fetus had to be dead or dying first. I asked whether he could be sure that my life or health would not be endangered by waiting that long. He wouldn’t answer me to my face but said I should not bathe or shower. I asked him whether he had taken the Hypocratic of Hypocrit oath, stormed out, and dared them to try to bill me. Because this was St. Vincent’s in New York City, I was able to go to another hospital. In many cities, I wouldn’t have had that option. That’s why I got involved in activism on the issue of reproductive rights.
Lots and very little.
This has been another, very sad edition of simple answers to simple questions.
Even more sadly, so many of our political debates seem to drive me back to these same two questions.
ROFL … Ms. Mooselini … coffee through the nose but well worth it …
((((( GdP )))))
I do value life, very highly. Both the life of the mother and the baby — to ask me which is more important is an impossible question to answer in the abstract, though, isn’t it? Which is why making the “pro-choice is pro-abortion” argument is ludicrous on its face. For starters…
The pro-birth crowd seems happy to answer that question when it applies to others. I suspect that many of them are willing to their answer when it applies to themselves or their loved ones.
Oh my. That would have pissed me off royally. It’s one of the reasons that Joe Lieberman’s “it’s only a short ride to another hospital” bullshit went through me like a knife. WHo is he to say — he wouldn’t have to worry about taking one, would he?!?
FIONA !!!!
dear (((Christy))),
eerily similar experiences - high risk, almost lost at 3 mos, bedrest, we didn’t have scans, just amnio - none of the usual stuff popped up but I was told there was a chance of pronounced delays . . .and then the little guy shows up almost 3 mos early -
but yeah, I made a conscious choice to carry him to term.
thank you so much for your courage in sharing your family’s story - I knew from prev posts that you had been through fertility hell - before I was aware of your chronic illness - but man oh man does it have significance to hear the whole story
and yeah, I’m bawlin’ my eyes out, but as Valley Girl said above - happy tears
How can she possibly make that distinction and yet have no exception for rape or incest? Isn’t it doG’s hand in it all in her world view?
This is it. Is a person less of a person because she is female? What is autonomy? What is free will? What comprises human dignity?
It’s always been a fascination to me that so many existential questions come down to paradox. I think it’s the case with pregnancy. Speaking from personal experience, having a baby can be the most liberating thing — and yet an unwanted pregnancy is the ultimate enslavement.
Short Ride Joe . . . the walking definition of an abundance of hubris and the absence of compassion.
Christy - I think a lot of people make the mistake that being ‘pro-choice’ means that the only choice is to terminate. Which is crazy..that means that there is no choice(because ‘choice’ means that there are alternatives that must be examined and gone through and winnowed out). Just like the seeming position of those who claim to be ‘pro-life’ is ‘no termination’ - they are saying that there are no alternatives. People who are ‘pro-choice’ are also ‘pro-good family life’, ‘pro-happy and healthy child’, ‘pro-happy and healthy mom’ etc. But ‘pro-life’ seems to mean taking choices away..
You made us all cry but joyfully so because we forget the struggles some families go through. Thanks for sharing and Peanut is one lucky gal to have such wonderful parents.
btw, I just dugg this post. I was hesitant a while back when I discovered the digg thing, but it’s really quite easy, and nothing bad has happened as a result.
I see some of the usual suspects have dugg this post, and thanks to whoever opened the digg.
I really encourage the rest of you to give it a digg spin. This post really does deserve wider readership.
I am deeply moved by your intensely personal story. Thank you for exemplifying what we second wave feminists used to say, the personal is political. Your story of survival and later the gift of your little girl will remain forever juxtaposed, for me, with the painful pictures of women, young and old, who died at the hands of back ally abortionists, and of those who died from self attempted abortions with wire hangers. I am mindful of what pro-choice has always been about. Bless you and bless your precious family.
Thank you.
This is hard to read….. I had 5 pregnancies, 1 live birth. The last was terminated because I had measles in the first trimester and they were very concerned with birth defects, I was living in rural Crete Greece with a 8 month old baby….. March 25th 1978 ….. on Greek independence day…… in a Greek hospital with only a handful of people who spoke English…..
We don’t make these decisions easily, we don’t live with them easily….. But my circumstances at that time did not lend myself to deal with a second child who could be high risk. Due to the military, I would of been sent to Germany to deliver without my first child in my 7th month.
It is incredible to me that the Palin selection did not destroy McCain overnight. People are just not paying attention. I think it is time to just run an ad which says it palinly and simply. Both the Republican platform and Palin support making abortions illegal even in the case of rape and incest, they want to stuff government down your throats, they want to control women’s bodies and everyones lives into the innermost sanctuaries of human and family privacy. Say it. And repeat it and to hell with the few fundie votes it might cost.
Hugs, hon. Gentle, caring hugs.
Oh — meant to mention — do read that last “after reading this” link. And you’ll see why this post came pouring out of my fingers…
I Am Not A Baby Machine
Think about that in the context of the attack on women being able to even obtain contraception in some places because of religious objections by medical providers and/or pharmacists. And then think how that would work if you live in a rural area with very limited selections of doctors and pharmacists.
And then it begins to hit you how widespread the attack on women’s choices has been the last few years.
Thank you for this post and the strength it took to tell that story. I too have seen the horrors that women and children all too often face in this country. These difficult decisions must always be left to the woman and her physician and none of us has the right to judge their decisions.
((((Christy)))))))
Peanut is going to school already?
Jeeze, I’m getting old in a hurry.
oh katymine- I didn’t know about your travails before. Thank you, you are another woman of … steel.. uh, I’m trying to find the right word.
Deal is, this is the kind of story that women don’t readily share. So many “hidden” stories and accounts that are heartbreaking and, in their own way show how ultimately brave women can be. Thank you. xxoo
And instead has resurrected his race. Alot of coverage today about how they seem to get along, enjoy each other’s company, and huge crowds!! McSame seems to have a real bounce in his step….
With polls showing a bump in white women’s votes….let’s hope they get the word. Are the serious fundies the same group as W’s 24%ers?
Gnome,
In the Pentacostal worldview doG is intimately involved in each of our lives. Because doG is so intimately involved in our quotidian affairs, if a woman becomes pregnant as the result of rape or incest, that is simply part of doG’s plan for her.
The part of her worldview that is inconsistent is allowing an exception to save the life of the mother. After all, if doG is so intimately involved, doG will spare her if that is doG’s will. And if she and the infant die, well, that is doG’s will too. We all know that doG only wants what’s best for each of us.
The part of the Palin Saga that has me tearing my hair out is their celebration of Bristol’s choice. Bristol only has a choice because people like her parents have not had their way with the lege and the courts. At least, not yet.
I’m pro-life: I’m in favor of happy, fulfilled people. Because this isn’t Pangloss’s best of all possible worlds, because indescribably horrific things do happen, I believe that we all have to make our way as best we can. That means that sometimes people are confronted with awful choices. Even if theirs isn’t really a choice (an ectopic pregnancy is a medical emergency — the probability of taking the fetus to a viable state is very low, and the risks of losing both mother and fetus are so high that it simply isn’t a matter of having a choice) it’s painful. I’ve been there and done that as the father. I can tell you from experience, it sucks to be the father in that situation. I can’t imagine how much it sucks to be the woman. There isn’t really an option, and there are neither words nor acts that can console.
BC
I’v always had a tad bit of trouble with those horizontal lines. Think Peanut could help?
Coming from that family and those circumstances, I wonder how much choice Bristol actually has?
Pretty much so, RB. There’s a pretty strong statistical linkage between the Kool-Aid drinkers and the Theocrats, despite the efforts of folks like Jim Wallice.
That’s a good question. It’s also a question that will never be answered.
This is an issue that is very personal for many reasons…… First held the hand of a 14 year old blond blue eyed middle class girl while she died from her illegal abortion in 1970…… I was a 19 yr old nursing student….. that lovely girl, who lived in Kansas City MO but if she lived in Kansas City KS, she could obtain a legal abortion at that time. In the hours it was my “job” to sit with her, her parents disowned her, while she told me….. over and over again….. “I promise I won’t do it again” …..
We have generations of women and American’s who do not remember what life was like before it was legal and safe. As a nurse, I don’t want to go back, I don’t want Doctors to have to patch up women from a botched job, I don’t want any more nurses watch the life drain from a young life because of this.
My mother’s bunk mate in the Navy committed suicide because she could not deal with it. This is what life is like when it is not safe and legal.
If Palin every says that Bristol made the “choice ” to have her baby, she has walked into a trap.
i spent many years throughout the 70’s and 80’s as a clinic “escort”, participating in clinic defense every weekend and in the early evening hours. there are far fewer clinics today, providing this health care option, than there was during that time.
it honestly boggles my mind that 20/30 years later this battle is still not won. it makes me weary … and angry.
~itunkala
Thanks….. I learned that life gives ya speed bumps and ya have to learn to jump over them or fall flat on your face…… some times these events give birth to other things, my two adopted kids, my foster kids….. I just channeled it….. it doesn’t matter where you babies come from, when they are yours…..
Oh dear, RevDeb. I have heard similar stories about so-called “pro-life” folk making exceptions for their own daughters–or themselves–more times than I can count. I wish it weren’t so.
Christy, thank you for telling your story. You said it all… and the Peanut is sure lucky to have wonderful parents like you and the Mr.
I don’t think so, Twain.
While I would dearly love to be able to pin her to the wall on the issue, doing so would be completely counterproductive to the real campaign. Getting Barack Obama elected is the real issue. Palin is relevant only in that her selection is revealing about McCain’s decision making processes (he’s a gambler) and his affiliations (he’s toady to the Theocrat wing of the GOoP.)
BC
To Dobson and his ilk: Being uterine-challenged, get the Hell out of this, and take your pals with you. see revdeb @ 9
To Sarah Palin: You and your daughter have made your choices… your choices. Now get out of the way of everyone else’s.
Christy: Brave and touching. Can’t thank you enough.
Okay, here’s my and my wife’s story. Pregnancy. Seems to be going well. Too well. Wife feels strange because she *doesn’t* feel strange—no morning sickness, no nothing. So at fourteen weeks doc suggests amniocentesis. Wait two weeks for the results. Worried call from doc. Come in please. Things don’t look good. They will do the tests a second time. Another two weeks. Get called in. Look at genetic profile. See how portions of three genes have been swapped and truncated. Get list of minimum number of deformities/syndromes, most fatal.
Back to specialist for series of special ultrasounds which can show accurately present state of fetus’ heart/lung and other development. We look at the pics. Visible deformities in limbs. Doctor explains the following:
Fetus is severely deformed/developmentally sc