There are some very personal reasons that I support a woman’s right to choose — based on her circumstances, her history, and all the factors that go into making such a difficult decision. A lot of it has to do with my own history. And also the difficulties I have seen in the lives of women and children that I have met throughout my legal practice.
Let me start with the personal. Technically — at least by the standard definition of abortion as an induced termination of a pregnancy — I have had one. It was a medical necessity, due to my life being at risk because of a complication, and one of the most agonizing times of our lives.
Let me explain: we had been through several years of fertility agony at that point — endless tests, poking and prodding, injections — you name it. Before Thanksgiving that year, I began to experience some nausea and other symptoms of pregnancy, but we had been fooled by that before with no resulting pregnancy, so I was trying not to get my hopes up as I bought yet another pregnancy test two-fer box.
We were overjoyed to get a positive result. Beyond joy, in fact, because it was the very first time in our several years of marriage I had gotten pregnant.
I called our doc, who worked me in for an emergency appointment, to do a series of blood and other tests, only to face the nightmare of a roller coaster of hormone fluctuations and more testing. By the time we were done with all the ultrasounds and the daily blood tests for over a month, I looked like a heroin addict with palsy — and we reached the inescapable conclusion that the pregnancy was a danger to my life, and would never become viable.
The termination of my first pregnancy occurred on Christmas Eve. It was wretched, miserable and devastating. And it nearly killed me emotionally.
My husband was amazing and tender, but nothing — and I mean nothing — could fill the void of having to end the only pregnancy I’d ever managed to have. I could feel the watered down methotrexate course through my system as the nurse injected the glowing, green liquid (also used for chemo treatments, as it kills rapidly multiplying cells). I spent the next three days, curled up in a ball with my dachshund, sobbing until I slept fitful dreams of the child we would never have. I can still feel it.
Why tell you something so personal? Especially when it is no one’s business but ours?
Because it is no one’s business but ours how we made the decision, what medical issues were at stake, and what choices we made together. Which is the point of choice. No one but the people involved in the individual circumstances can truly know why the decision is made — to terminate, to keep, to risk.
No matter the difficulty, it was the correct medical decision for us. By ending the pregnancy to save my life, and after more fertility hell and miscarriages, I got pregnant with our daughter.
I was in the high risk category. We almost lost her at two and a half months, and I spent the remainder of the pregnancy on bed rest or very limited movement. We did a lot of testing and ultrasounds, including a series of scans that told us there was a problem potentially with her brain development — but they couldn’t tell for certain. I spent hours researching the issue online, talking with my doctors and other medical professionals trying to discern what this would mean for our child and for us.
There was a substantial risk of severe problems for her, but we chose to have her. We chose to have faith that the scans were merely an anomaly, and that whatever happened, we would love her with everything we had because she was our miracle child.
She just started kindergarten last week. And she is thriving and fine. In fact, she’s more than fine.
Again, we made a choice, based on our own circumstances and what we saw as the best thing to do for us. Choosing to keep your pregnancy is as much as choice as the alternative — and also a deeply personal one between you, your spouse, your doctors, and whatever conversations with God you may choose to have. Outside of that, it is no one’s business, because no one outside of it can possibly know all the agonizing issues involved.
Which brings me to my legal experience within the criminal justice and family law systems.
Unless you have been around women who have been beaten down and abused (men, too, but for this discussion, since women carry the children, let’s stick to them), or children who have been abused physically, emotionally and sexually, whose families struggle with financial despair and potential starvation each and every day of their lives, you can’t fully comprehend what kinds of issues may come into play in any individual decision where the circumstances are less than ideal.
I’m talking about children who long for the day school starts again so that they can get at least two decent meals a day during the week. Or a 14 year old child who is brutally raped by her father in the middle of the night, only to find weeks later that she is pregnant — not by her own choosing — with his child. Imagine having to carry that child to term, when you are a child yourself and forcibly impregnated with your own sister or brother, feeling that child move within you as a reminder every time of your rape — and then tell me that this mother’s life (a child herself) doesn’t matter at all, only the potential life within her.
I’ve said this before:
…I don’t want people to have more abortions. If I could, I’d wave a wand and make all babies be born under ideal circumstances to parents who would love and care for them.
But I happen to live in the all-too-real world, where sexual abuse and violent rape and all those other nasty things happen, where children wake up and wonder if there will be any food for them to eat — right here in the US of A — and where other things that most people can never even imagine happen within families and neighborhoods and all over the place.
And I know enough to know this: I don’t speak for God, and neither should anyone else. That’s why it is an individual choice — you make peace with your own soul, your own faith and your own family and friends based on your own, individual and hideous circumstances in each case — and beyond that, it’s no one’s business….
Now you know why I feel so strongly about this issue. Because I’ve lived it and because my entire adult life has forced this issue to the forefront. Life is messy and people get caught up in situations that are not of their own making far too often. We never asked for an ectopic pregnancy, but we got one nonetheless. Pro-life folks want you to think that abortion is the only facet of being pro-choice but they could not be more wrong or dishonest.
Being pro-choice is to be compassionate and honest about the world around us, and to value the life of the mother just as much as the life within her — and to trust the women and others involved in each circumstance to weigh all of the issues involved. Because that is what they already do. Most of the women that I have ever known who faced unenviable difficulties in these decisions chose to have their child where it was medically possible. Which is…a choice.
Pretending otherwise is simply to lie. And of those who choose to have an abortion, who am I to judge them when I’ve had to make that choice myself out of medical necessity? There are any number of reasons that I would never, ever choose to have an abortion, but again, that would be my choice. And after reading this, I needed to say that out loud.
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Thank you for your courage and honesty. No body business but my own…how true. And thank God for the lovely Peanut; she is in such good hands. My best.
Thanks Bev. Sometimes, you just need to vent a little among friends…
And we are awfully, awfully blessed to have The Peanut. *sniffle*
Amen sister.
To have people who choose to redefine torture as “enhanced interrogation techniques” dictating to women what to do with their bodies because they think their judgement is morally superior. . . . . . well, ‘nuf said.
And we’ve been vicariously watching the peanut grow up through you and could not be more pleased for you both.
You know, it is almost as though she has lots of Aunties and Uncles out there, laughing along with me on the yogurt smeared doggie days of yore, celebrating the kindergarten milestone. :)
Great post. Boy Christy, you really went through the wringer…I’m so glad that you ended up with a successful pregnancy and the Peanut.
Thank you, Christy, for showing your courage telling a very personal story.
The Republic view of abortion is cartoonish and motivated mostly by their desire to gain votes. When they had complete control of the government, they could have passed any number of laws. Yet, they did nothing. They want abortion to be there as an issue, election after election, for them to exploit. It is an issue to be exploited, not an issue to be solved.
It’s difficult to see how that will ever change.
I’ve said it here before, but Mr. Rev. who once worked for Planned Parenthood in Seattle told me the story the director at the time told him—the leader of the anti choice folks who constantly picketed and harassed the patients at the clinic called her one day and wanted to meet with her after hours. It seems the daughter of the anti somehow managed to get herself pregnant and needed an appointment to terminate the pregnancy. The PP director was, of course, willing to make the appt. and to insure confidentiality. On the way out the door, she couldn’t help but ask the anti how she could possibly have such a double standard. The reply was “my daughter isn’t a whore like your other clients.”
Kinda says it all.
Hi Christy,
If I could create an ideal world it would be one where a couple (both) would have to take a pill to create a fetus. I do understand about wanting one very much and not getting there. My son and DIL lost two before they discovered that my DIL had a very rare heart condition. By taking shots every single day she was able to carry the baby to term. And then a second.
The discovery of the condition also answered another question – why so many of the people in her family had died so young. Now many are receiving the help they need.
it’s their main cash cow. Outlaw it and the money and energy dries up. Won’t happen. Actually it doesn’t need to happen. Abortions are so out of reach for the majority of the population already, they’ve done most of their work.
Life is messy.
As is Democracy messy & disordered. We need a lot of courage to get on with being in this Democracy, as much as we need courage to continue with our lives here on earth & not give up. That’s just the way it is for all us, all beings. Our fortitude & tenacity is the reason we’re all still here.
Thank you for sharing your family’s story, CHS.
Thank you for sharing that intensely personal story, Christy. I can’t imagine not having you and the Peanut with us; we’re affected, too.
I wish I could lay my hands on an essay written for a medical journal in the last 5 years; it was a case study about a mother who arrived at the hospital in premature labor with twins. One of the twins was dead and partially presenting; the other was still alive and at risk if the dead twin was not removed and the cervix stitched. The mother was at risk, too, due to infection. The catch was that the process to remove the twin would have been called abortion, and it would be illegal if Palin and her like had their way. The article was written by a doctor — and he was the father, trying to remain emotionally distant in writing the piece, but obviously distraught at the loss of one child and the threat to the remaining child and his wife and their mother. It was heartbreaking to read, and another perfect example of the lack of compassion behind the absolutist anti-choice crowd. (If anyone can find that article, I would greatly appreciate it, have struggled for a year to locate it.)
Christy, even though your case is the classic example of an abortion that is “okay,” it is still brave of you to tell your story and open yourself up to attacks from the nutcases.
Of course women should be free to decide what happens to their own bodies. The Palin position assumes that women don’t deserve that kind of respect.
Your story is a reminder that life in the real world doesn’t always play out as it might in the world of magical thinking.
I did a post on that — will see if I can dig up the link. Hold on…it was out of JAMA, if I remember correctly.
That is so sad…Isn’t that the log in one’s own eye. Back in the day, I worked in LA while abortion was still illegal there, and legal in TX. The drama to see young girls, or not so young, trying to scrape together money for the trip. Jeeeez
The discussion might change if wealthy Republics who have had abortions or have caused women to choose abortions were exposed. There’s probably quite a list.
I think it might have been on Kos…you could do a search under diaries with key words. I remember reading it.
Oh Christy, thank you so much for this post. This wonderful post. Tears and wonder.
My sister her husband went through a version of this- and I know it is not as easy as some people might assume, even leaving out the extra details. They ended up adopting daughter #1. And, then, a few years later, having discovered another doc, tried once last time, or two or three. Daughter #2!
It’s really been wonderful to watch how they absolutely make no difference between the two, well, I mean they do take into account the different personalities and gifts, but that’s it!
Thank you again, Christy.
When my first wife and I were in school she was asst director of a PP clinic. Had a very similar experience but not the whore bit. He was an atty and leader in the anti community. Quit afterwards.
thanks, Christy. that was a strong and brave thing to do.
i am teary as i write this.
rah rah for you and bully to the peanut.
My father was a general practitioner and said he never performed an abortion but back when they were illegal, he was the one that had to “clean up the mess” when there were injuries and infection. This summer there was an article in the NY Times by a retired physician that expressed it well (I can’t get the link to work, but the address is the usual nytimes address plus /2008/06/03/health/views/03essa.html)
Wow. Just f*kin’ wow. I knew these people had a really narrow world view but that’s unbelievable. I worked at a crisis center for a few years and have seen and referred a number of parents with pregnant daughters to PP. That comment really blows my mind.
Good heavens I’ve written a lot of posts, Rayne — this may take a little while to find…
i remember in college how folks in the chaplain’s office would help classmates who needed to take a trip. their blessing was that we had the resources to help them in a time when abortion was illegal, but thousands of others suffered or died.
We were just about to start the process of adoption when we found out I was pregnant with The Peanut. Go figure…
((( Christy & Family )))
The Peanut is doubly blessed to have you & Mr. Reddhead as her parents
The other story is about the Clergy Consultation Service on Abortion run in NY in the ’60s and then spread into other states. Started by a Baptist minister, Howard Moody, they insisted on listing themselves in the phone book. We asked him about having their phones tapped since what they were doing—referring women to clean providers—was illegal. He said that they were tapped for about 2 weeks. Once the “law” found out that some of the women calling in were wives, daughters and nieces of judges and of highly ranked police officers, the tap was turned off.
A-ha. Found it Rayne — here you go.
Speaking of adoption, two questions:
1) How many of the forced birth folks at the Rethug convention have adopted children?
2) How many of the Queen of Mean’s Rethug supporters in Alaska have adopted children?
Any time I ask a forced birther why didn’t they adopt the answer is always, “Because we don’t have to.” Not too self-centered.
Sorry to make you sniffly right along with me, btw…
My sister and her husband were unable to conceive so they adopted a boy, then she got preg and had another boy, and then again, and then again.
We’re all sniffly reading this … {{{ group hug }}}
I can only imagine the hell that was trying to patch things up after a botched surgery in such a delicate area. I’ve always wondered how doctors in your dad’s position managed not to maim the people doing it, because that would have been so difficult not to be incredibly angry on the back end of things.
Thanks Christy.
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I’ve been told that happens often – a couple gives up or decides to adopt – and then there your are….
Oh, and Christy? You are amazing.
Those who would presume to dictate to a pregnant woman what her “choice” must be . . . in my book, they are dangerously close to playing God, proclaiming “I am in charge of your life.”
Those who do this out of their “Christian faith” might want to ponder the first commandment a bit more.
Thanks, Christy, for this powerful post.
Believe me when I say that it was not an easy post to write. But it sort of came out all in a piece, and it needed to be said. So, I said it.
Christy,
I could not finish your post because I am fighting back tears from reading of your heartbreak and impossible decision and I have to go to a meeting in few minutes. I will finish it tonight when I return.
I went through a lot with fertility treatments and was blessed with a beautiful boy – he’s 4 1/2 now — so I always relate when you speak about the Peanut! God bless you and choice!
Been there with you, sister – the tests, the pieces of you that they cut out and send away, the “we don’t know why this is not working”, etc. One of these days, you and I will sit down with a drink. But for me, the issue really is – if the government can tell a woman that she ‘must’ bring a pregnancy to term(no matter what), then they also have the power to tell a woman that she ‘can’t’ – and I’m totally against that.
Christy, I live in the south and was asked awhile back about my views on choice. Not the way it was phrased but anyway, I explained that years ago in another city a child was born because his mother had a choice. My friend had given birth to a girl who had no chance of making it out of intensive care. The baby died two days later. After a series of genetic tests she was told that it might take multiple pregnancies before she could give birth to a viable child. Because of choice she decided to try one more time. She gave birth to a beautiful boy with all it’s fingers and toes and full of life. Sometimes choice gives us our peanuts.
With Obama pretty much saying that the D party is the party of choice and the Rethugs saying they’re the party of no choice, the election becomes, de facto, a referendum on the abortion issue. The state by state totals are going to be very interesting since most states have already settled the issue for themselves.
That’s always been a sticking point for me, too, Peterr. Who do they think helped get them pregnant via rape or incest in the first place? Do they think that God wanted that to happen? Does he really have time for every moment of minutiae? I’ve never been able to get a coherent answer on that one from anyone when I’ve asked it — if things happen for a reason, and if we have individual will along with faith and a connection to God, then who is someone else to butt in and say “your connection is crap, only mine is good — too bad for your rape.”
I mean, honestly, how much hubris can one person possess? And how little compassion? I’m not saying every pregnancy of rape should end in abortion — not in the least. But it isn’t my choice or my life at stake in someone else’s decision, either, and it’s none of my business.
I always wonder how many steps away from the Handmaid’s Tale we’ve come…
Christy, thank you for your post. Your willingness to share your story, the problems and ultimate triumph are inspiring – thanks again
No need to apologize Christy- it’s a happy tears thing as to the positive outcome.
And, the very last time, my sister was convinced that the in vivo had failed for daughter #2. They had been looking to move, and friend found them just the right house, so they immediately put their house on the market- and it sold in a week, with the new owners wanting virtually immediate occupancy. They closed the deal to sell their house, and two days later my sister found out yes, she was pregnant for real! They were expecting the sale to take about 4 months! So, they closed the deal on their new home, which was, uh, in a GREAT location, but basically unlivable. So, lived in a rental apartment for 4 months, with all their stuff in storage. Go figure, indeed!
((Christy))
((Mr ReddHedd))
(( Peanut! ))
I have to say, the juxtaposition of this post and watching over the top of my computer while The Peanut and her daddy work on “homework” for her kindergarten class is a little surreal and awfully comforting. (The “homework” is learning to draw horizontal lines. *g*)
((Christy and family))
Oh, and Christy, sorry for above adding my family details. I didn’t mean that as a distraction, at all. More like to make the general point that people who have had no direct experience with this (or closely indirect as mine was) really cannot fathom what “this” is all about.
Thank you for sharing this Christy…and in such an eloquent way. It’s a powerful message. And thank goodness for the Peanut as your happier ending.
We cannot go back to the days of unsafe, illegal abortions. A college acquaintance of mine had one and was sterile as a result. She later married the baby’s father and they were able to adopt.
However, her life was tough and am convinced she had severe PTSD. She stepped in front of a bus when she was 56.
Someone needs to ask Ms. Mooselini what she would do if she had a very high up ectopic pregnancy. (Of course she is so uninformed she wouldn’t know what that was) Would she choose to suffer a guaranteed slow and excruciating death along with that of the child, leaving her other healthy children motherless?
Christy,
Thanks for your candor and insight!
Now we know a little more about why Peanut is so precious to you. May you both, and Mr. ReddHedd, live long and prosper!
Bob in HI
Actually, I believe that the potential death of the mother is the one exception that Governor Palin makes in her (almost) absolute ban on abortion.
OMG, well that changes my opinion of her entirely. /s
I love this post, Christy. This choice thing has been my main issue for many years. It’s not really about abortion to me – it’s about a woman’s privacy and her right to make decisions. The R’s treat it as if women are stupid and couldn’t possibly know what’s best for themselves. Makes my blood boil.
All the best to your family – enjoy every minute.
You know, I was struck by how much you value life, Christy–how you get such joy out of little Peanut…just as I have with my little “surprise” when I thought I was done having kids…and I thought “how ironic”…
A brave post. More of us women need to do this. The right needs to demonize women who get abortions. We hurt women’s reproductive rights when we do the “safe, legal, rare” argument. Abortion will never be rare. I too had an abortion, partly for medical reasons. I would have terminated in any case, but the location of the fetus made it a necessity. I did not feel ashamed or apologetic, so when I started to bleed before the schedule procedure, I went to the first emergency room I could find. They. Would. Not. Treat. Me. I was informed this after being asked insulting questions about my sexual practices. I was essentially told to hope the spontaneous abortion would reverse itself. I asked the doctors whether I could possibly go full term while making clear that in any case I had no intention of doing so. I asked him to tell me to my face that it was even possible. He had to answer that it was highly unlikely. I asked him what it would take for his hospital to perform an abortion. He said the fetus had to be dead or dying first. I asked whether he could be sure that my life or health would not be endangered by waiting that long. He wouldn’t answer me to my face but said I should not bathe or shower. I asked him whether he had taken the Hypocratic of Hypocrit oath, stormed out, and dared them to try to bill me. Because this was St. Vincent’s in New York City, I was able to go to another hospital. In many cities, I wouldn’t have had that option. That’s why I got involved in activism on the issue of reproductive rights.
Lots and very little.
This has been another, very sad edition of simple answers to simple questions.
Even more sadly, so many of our political debates seem to drive me back to these same two questions.
ROFL … Ms. Mooselini … coffee through the nose but well worth it …
((((( GdP )))))
I do value life, very highly. Both the life of the mother and the baby — to ask me which is more important is an impossible question to answer in the abstract, though, isn’t it? Which is why making the “pro-choice is pro-abortion” argument is ludicrous on its face. For starters…
The pro-birth crowd seems happy to answer that question when it applies to others. I suspect that many of them are willing to their answer when it applies to themselves or their loved ones.
Oh my. That would have pissed me off royally. It’s one of the reasons that Joe Lieberman’s “it’s only a short ride to another hospital” bullshit went through me like a knife. WHo is he to say — he wouldn’t have to worry about taking one, would he?!?
FIONA !!!!
dear (((Christy))),
eerily similar experiences – high risk, almost lost at 3 mos, bedrest, we didn’t have scans, just amnio – none of the usual stuff popped up but I was told there was a chance of pronounced delays . . .and then the little guy shows up almost 3 mos early –
but yeah, I made a conscious choice to carry him to term.
thank you so much for your courage in sharing your family’s story – I knew from prev posts that you had been through fertility hell – before I was aware of your chronic illness – but man oh man does it have significance to hear the whole story
and yeah, I’m bawlin’ my eyes out, but as Valley Girl said above – happy tears
How can she possibly make that distinction and yet have no exception for rape or incest? Isn’t it doG’s hand in it all in her world view?
This is it. Is a person less of a person because she is female? What is autonomy? What is free will? What comprises human dignity?
It’s always been a fascination to me that so many existential questions come down to paradox. I think it’s the case with pregnancy. Speaking from personal experience, having a baby can be the most liberating thing — and yet an unwanted pregnancy is the ultimate enslavement.
Short Ride Joe . . . the walking definition of an abundance of hubris and the absence of compassion.
Christy – I think a lot of people make the mistake that being ‘pro-choice’ means that the only choice is to terminate. Which is crazy..that means that there is no choice(because ‘choice’ means that there are alternatives that must be examined and gone through and winnowed out). Just like the seeming position of those who claim to be ‘pro-life’ is ‘no termination’ – they are saying that there are no alternatives. People who are ‘pro-choice’ are also ‘pro-good family life’, ‘pro-happy and healthy child’, ‘pro-happy and healthy mom’ etc. But ‘pro-life’ seems to mean taking choices away..
You made us all cry but joyfully so because we forget the struggles some families go through. Thanks for sharing and Peanut is one lucky gal to have such wonderful parents.
btw, I just dugg this post. I was hesitant a while back when I discovered the digg thing, but it’s really quite easy, and nothing bad has happened as a result.
I see some of the usual suspects have dugg this post, and thanks to whoever opened the digg.
I really encourage the rest of you to give it a digg spin. This post really does deserve wider readership.
I am deeply moved by your intensely personal story. Thank you for exemplifying what we second wave feminists used to say, the personal is political. Your story of survival and later the gift of your little girl will remain forever juxtaposed, for me, with the painful pictures of women, young and old, who died at the hands of back ally abortionists, and of those who died from self attempted abortions with wire hangers. I am mindful of what pro-choice has always been about. Bless you and bless your precious family.
Thank you.
This is hard to read….. I had 5 pregnancies, 1 live birth. The last was terminated because I had measles in the first trimester and they were very concerned with birth defects, I was living in rural Crete Greece with a 8 month old baby….. March 25th 1978 ….. on Greek independence day…… in a Greek hospital with only a handful of people who spoke English…..
We don’t make these decisions easily, we don’t live with them easily….. But my circumstances at that time did not lend myself to deal with a second child who could be high risk. Due to the military, I would of been sent to Germany to deliver without my first child in my 7th month.
It is incredible to me that the Palin selection did not destroy McCain overnight. People are just not paying attention. I think it is time to just run an ad which says it palinly and simply. Both the Republican platform and Palin support making abortions illegal even in the case of rape and incest, they want to stuff government down your throats, they want to control women’s bodies and everyones lives into the innermost sanctuaries of human and family privacy. Say it. And repeat it and to hell with the few fundie votes it might cost.
Hugs, hon. Gentle, caring hugs.
Oh — meant to mention — do read that last “after reading this” link. And you’ll see why this post came pouring out of my fingers…
I Am Not A Baby Machine
Think about that in the context of the attack on women being able to even obtain contraception in some places because of religious objections by medical providers and/or pharmacists. And then think how that would work if you live in a rural area with very limited selections of doctors and pharmacists.
And then it begins to hit you how widespread the attack on women’s choices has been the last few years.
Thank you for this post and the strength it took to tell that story. I too have seen the horrors that women and children all too often face in this country. These difficult decisions must always be left to the woman and her physician and none of us has the right to judge their decisions.
((((Christy)))))))
Peanut is going to school already?
Jeeze, I’m getting old in a hurry.
oh katymine- I didn’t know about your travails before. Thank you, you are another woman of … steel.. uh, I’m trying to find the right word.
Deal is, this is the kind of story that women don’t readily share. So many “hidden” stories and accounts that are heartbreaking and, in their own way show how ultimately brave women can be. Thank you. xxoo
And instead has resurrected his race. Alot of coverage today about how they seem to get along, enjoy each other’s company, and huge crowds!! McSame seems to have a real bounce in his step….
With polls showing a bump in white women’s votes….let’s hope they get the word. Are the serious fundies the same group as W’s 24%ers?
Gnome,
In the Pentacostal worldview doG is intimately involved in each of our lives. Because doG is so intimately involved in our quotidian affairs, if a woman becomes pregnant as the result of rape or incest, that is simply part of doG’s plan for her.
The part of her worldview that is inconsistent is allowing an exception to save the life of the mother. After all, if doG is so intimately involved, doG will spare her if that is doG’s will. And if she and the infant die, well, that is doG’s will too. We all know that doG only wants what’s best for each of us.
The part of the Palin Saga that has me tearing my hair out is their celebration of Bristol’s choice. Bristol only has a choice because people like her parents have not had their way with the lege and the courts. At least, not yet.
I’m pro-life: I’m in favor of happy, fulfilled people. Because this isn’t Pangloss’s best of all possible worlds, because indescribably horrific things do happen, I believe that we all have to make our way as best we can. That means that sometimes people are confronted with awful choices. Even if theirs isn’t really a choice (an ectopic pregnancy is a medical emergency — the probability of taking the fetus to a viable state is very low, and the risks of losing both mother and fetus are so high that it simply isn’t a matter of having a choice) it’s painful. I’ve been there and done that as the father. I can tell you from experience, it sucks to be the father in that situation. I can’t imagine how much it sucks to be the woman. There isn’t really an option, and there are neither words nor acts that can console.
BC
I’v always had a tad bit of trouble with those horizontal lines. Think Peanut could help?
Coming from that family and those circumstances, I wonder how much choice Bristol actually has?
Pretty much so, RB. There’s a pretty strong statistical linkage between the Kool-Aid drinkers and the Theocrats, despite the efforts of folks like Jim Wallice.
That’s a good question. It’s also a question that will never be answered.
This is an issue that is very personal for many reasons…… First held the hand of a 14 year old blond blue eyed middle class girl while she died from her illegal abortion in 1970…… I was a 19 yr old nursing student….. that lovely girl, who lived in Kansas City MO but if she lived in Kansas City KS, she could obtain a legal abortion at that time. In the hours it was my “job” to sit with her, her parents disowned her, while she told me….. over and over again….. “I promise I won’t do it again” …..
We have generations of women and American’s who do not remember what life was like before it was legal and safe. As a nurse, I don’t want to go back, I don’t want Doctors to have to patch up women from a botched job, I don’t want any more nurses watch the life drain from a young life because of this.
My mother’s bunk mate in the Navy committed suicide because she could not deal with it. This is what life is like when it is not safe and legal.
If Palin every says that Bristol made the “choice ” to have her baby, she has walked into a trap.
i spent many years throughout the 70’s and 80’s as a clinic “escort”, participating in clinic defense every weekend and in the early evening hours. there are far fewer clinics today, providing this health care option, than there was during that time.
it honestly boggles my mind that 20/30 years later this battle is still not won. it makes me weary … and angry.
~itunkala
Thanks….. I learned that life gives ya speed bumps and ya have to learn to jump over them or fall flat on your face…… some times these events give birth to other things, my two adopted kids, my foster kids….. I just channeled it….. it doesn’t matter where you babies come from, when they are yours…..
Oh dear, RevDeb. I have heard similar stories about so-called “pro-life” folk making exceptions for their own daughters–or themselves–more times than I can count. I wish it weren’t so.
Christy, thank you for telling your story. You said it all… and the Peanut is sure lucky to have wonderful parents like you and the Mr.
I don’t think so, Twain.
While I would dearly love to be able to pin her to the wall on the issue, doing so would be completely counterproductive to the real campaign. Getting Barack Obama elected is the real issue. Palin is relevant only in that her selection is revealing about McCain’s decision making processes (he’s a gambler) and his affiliations (he’s toady to the Theocrat wing of the GOoP.)
BC
To Dobson and his ilk: Being uterine-challenged, get the Hell out of this, and take your pals with you. see revdeb @ 9
To Sarah Palin: You and your daughter have made your choices… your choices. Now get out of the way of everyone else’s.
Christy: Brave and touching. Can’t thank you enough.
Okay, here’s my and my wife’s story. Pregnancy. Seems to be going well. Too well. Wife feels strange because she *doesn’t* feel strange—no morning sickness, no nothing. So at fourteen weeks doc suggests amniocentesis. Wait two weeks for the results. Worried call from doc. Come in please. Things don’t look good. They will do the tests a second time. Another two weeks. Get called in. Look at genetic profile. See how portions of three genes have been swapped and truncated. Get list of minimum number of deformities/syndromes, most fatal.
Back to specialist for series of special ultrasounds which can show accurately present state of fetus’ heart/lung and other development. We look at the pics. Visible deformities in limbs. Doctor explains the following:
Fetus is severely deformed/developmentally screwed up. Wife’s body knows this, is preparing for child to miscarry/die. That’s the reason for lack of pregnancy symptoms. Body KNOWS. Prognosis: If we do nothing, child has 5% chance of living to birth, death inevitable within hours/couple of days. OR, 95% likely fetus dies inside wife.
Now, if we let the child die inside, we won’t know until wife begins to feel REALLY sick. Yes. some danger to wife. Wife then will go to hospital, confirm dead thing inside her, have labour induced, and give birth to a long-dead corpse.
Or we can choose an abortion; but only if we choose now. We’re at 19 weeks, and any non-emergency termination past 20 weeks requires induced labour. Wife is horrified. No fucking way, she says, will she wait several months for the thing inside her to die, then be conscious while her body forces out dead meat. So we say yes to an abortion.
But the horror is not finished. We are given a date and told to come to the hospital and walk through the expectant mothers area. I lose it. I snarl to doc, “What kind of insensitive fuck are you to force my wife to walk past happy pregnant people!” Doc replies, “I am so sorry, but if there were a special hospital entrance, or even a special door in the hospital which people went through to have abortions, your wife would have to walk through chanting anti-abortionists, which would probably be worse.”
So wife and I swallow our rage and pain. I walk her through the happy expectant mothers and fathers. After the procedure I walk her, now empty-uterused, back through the same happy people. Some unnamed anti-abortion protesters are lucky they are not there that day; if they had been, I would have lost and assaulted someone.
And now a point of information: I am Canadian, and here in Canada we have NO law, NOT ONE, regarding abortion. I asked the doc what would happen if we waited past 20 weeks and he told me that the decision would still be ours, and ours alone, in consultation with him.
Fuck all the forced-birthers.
(((katymine))) you are a hoss !
Yeah, bad form to follow-up your own posts, but re: McCain as a gambler.
He’s not simply a gambler, he appears to be a craps shooter. When you analyze it, craps is one of the stupidest games in the casino.
BC
I keep having a feeling that Bristol is going to be Caribou Barbie’s (Mama’s) undoing. Their relationship is not the best from what I have read. I believe that Trig was Bristol’s child and that her parents covered her(their) “embarrassment” the old fashioned way. Bristol refused to marry her guy and of course had no other choice. So when mom got away with pretending Trig was hers, Bristol promptly got pregnant again. Since she already has had a child, she looks like she is further along than she actually is. Watch this child get born two months early. And she is still refusing to marry the guy. Anger at mom much?
My first job in college was in the lab of a county hospital. The first people they’d let you take blood specimens from were on the maternity floor because supposedly their veins were really perky after giving birth. My first week after training(my first week; I was 18)they sent me upstairs with my tray and my slips and the first room I went to was occupied by … an 11 year old kid who’d been raped by her step-brother. We were taught to first say hello and if that did not get a reaction(maybe they were asleep), we were to touch the patient. That kid was sitting in the bed staring off into space – I had no idea what had happened to her; I found that out later, after the lab supervisor ran into the room, grabbed my slips from me and told me to go back to the lab. No one in that little girl’s family would believe her story and their local doctor told the parents, after they brought her in because ‘her chest felt funny’, told them that since the kid had never had a period, she was obviously starting to develop. The kid had never had a period and her step-brother raped her and because this was 1970, nothing could be done for her and she carried that baby to term. A baby having a baby. And then, to top it all off…a week later, the little girl and her new daughter/niece were scooped up by the mother and step father to go home to live…with the step-brother.
A powerful post, Christy. Thank you.
My maternal grandfather’s first wife died giving birth to their second child, another daughter. About two years later he remarried and soon his new wife gave birth to my mother. When Mom was just a few weeks shy of her sixth birthday, in rural Minnesota in 1906, my grandmother developed toxemia (now called pre-eclampsyia – sp?) in the 7th or 8th month of her fourth pregnancy. The condition involves the retention of fluids and soaring blood pressure. They called the doctor from the nearby small town, but he had neither the skills nor the knowledge to do anything about it, and all he could do when she hemmorraged was wring his hands as she started to bleed out. The children were brought into the room so that she could say goodbye to them, and with her last, gasping breaths she asked the older girls to look after the younger ones. My mother was extremely bright (skipped two grades and graduated from high school a few weeks after turning 16 and then, after teaching in a one room school for two years went through the state university in 3 years, coming out magna cum laude with a double major) and sober minded and took the charge seriously. Family lore has it that she didn’t cry, then, for her mother, but was always there for her 4 year old sister and 2 year old brother. And her farmer father for months afterward would come into the house after the day in the fields and just sit at the kitchen table with his head in his hands. But mother never processed the grief, and during the half of her life that I was something of a sentient being she suffered from what we now know was clinical depression. The loss of her mother was undoubtedly the formative event of her life. Did it cause the later depression? Who knows! Science during the past few decades has discovered that depression is driven by neuro chemistry, but there is also evidence that life experience can drive that chemistry.
If the events leading up to my grandmother’s death had occurred near the Twin Cities or Rochester instead of 50+ miles away when that was a several day carriage ride, she might have then come into the hands of what was just then becoming state of the art medical care. The doctor providing that care likely would have said that the only way to save my grandmother was to terminate the pregnancy immediately. My grandfather and his wife, if she was lucid enough, would have had to make an immediate decision to do what is now referred to pejoratively as a “partial birth abortion,” a term that does an appalling injustice to all the agonizing factors that must be considered so hurriedly in such situations.
Even today some people can be faced with these agonizing decisions, in large part because the rich man’s medical system we have prevents all to many women from having access to the kind of prenatal medical care that keeps on top of the risk factors that are behind this condition, as well as others. Who knows how different my mother’s life, as well as that of the younger brother who fought the bottle much of his life, would have been if their mother had lived. By all accounts she was a warm and loving person. I would have liked to have known her. Instead she was buried with her stillborn infant daughter.
Oh, I am so sorry you all had to go through that. I had that same walk that Christmas Eve. And even thinking abot it all these years later hurts like hell…
(((Hairhead Family)))
like Kala above, I worked as a clinic escort – and couldn’t believe what they were willing to put our patients through – let’s just say I got pissed off
continued this work through my 6th month (see above) – where I would arrive at the clinic in a too tight T Shirt that read Randall Terry’s Love Child – and would turn and flash ‘em just to watch their pointed little heads explode – it always made the patient laugh and put her more at ease :D
I have never, ever understood how any womans body is the province of an ancient white male (or even a younger one) whose primary objection is that “consciousness” begins at conception” or somesuch other religious blather.
I just don’t get it.
I think this is such an interesting comment. Let alone that Roe was decided by 9 old men. I am told that the influencing factors in the debate were the images of abused children and of back alley abortions.
If more of the Justices were women, would Roe even been in peril? It is as though men should have to recuse themselves. At some point the nutcases may decide that a vasectomy = taking of life. Seems like their kind of logic.
Bwahahaha — hilarious! Good on ya…
Oh my, new tears. What an awful experience.
And, yes, your last line says it. xxoo
Every sperm IS sacred.
The good news, Christie, is that one month afterwards (yes, it was not *supposed* to happen) my wife got pregnant again. And that was another whole story — we almost lost him four times during the pregnanct, and then he was delivered at 2lbs 10 oz (12 weeks early). Amazingly, he breathed on his own from the beginning, and doctors and nurses kept on telling us how *lucky* we were. So we named him Felix (Latin for “lucky or fortunate”). He was so healthy he was released from the hospital at 4lbs 8 oz! And now he is nine years old, healthy and beautiful — our only regret being that my wife cannot bear him a brother or a sister.
And yes, at those four points of near-death during the pregnancy, we could have chosen one course or the other — and we made our *choice*. (That being the point of this whole discussion).
And thanks for your sympathy, Christie. I don’t know anyone else who has “made that walk” — a long and dreadful walk it is, and one I wouldn’t wish on anyone, even one of those forced-birthers.
Pro life people say abortion is murder which makes it the state’s business. I see the fertilized egg as a parasite with the host having the right to rid itself of it especially in the first trimester when the parasite cannot live independently.
The real objection to restricting individual choice is just that. It restricts individual choice, something government should not do unless individual acts harm non-consenting others. If I want to commit suicide, it’s my business. Laws against gambling, still on the books are absurd in these days of lotteries. It’s no one’s business if I choose to smoke dope so long as I don’t drive under the influence.
Religious people who seek to impose orthodoxy are inherently insecure. It is not enough they believe what they believe, which is their right, they also try to impose their values on others because they see it as somehow reinforcing their faith. They are concerned with saving my eternal soul. My eternal soul can take care of itself.
Terrific post, Christy! We all feel for you and we all know you ALWAYS made the CORRECT decision for yourself. We applaud you.
Sarah Palin? I don’t like the fact she would force a young girl who has been brutally raped by either her father/brother/uncle or a stranger, is then impregnated, and then forced to carry the child. The psychological effects are enormous! I can’t even imagine being a young girl put in that position of being raped and then have to be reminded each day for 9 months of how she got pregnant! But, if this child HERSELF decided to keep it, then I would support her, but certainly, if she wanted to terminate I would completely understand it.
Sarah Palin stands AGAINST all women’s issues. How dare she say she’s a feminist or for anyone to imply she is! Wow. Scary anyone would believe this.
{{{{{Christy}}}}}
This is a beautiful, heartfelt, sad post. Thank you.
Thank you Christy for such a wrenchingly painful post!! It must have pained you to no end to write this but you came up with the courage to write this. Everyone of your points are how I have felt for years(never mind I have four sisters abs three daughters) for many many years it is never the states or any else’s business what a woman does with the only body she has. The next thing they will want to do if they can control women’s bodies ti to be able to tell us how to believe in God and what religion YOU MUST adhere to. These people make me sick, just who do they think they are to think it is their concern what any=one else does as long as it does not involve breaking existing LAWS!
Keep my constitution just as it is and if it needs to be changed go though the process which takes a two thirds vote!!
Again Christy thans for such a wonderful post!!
Not only reinforcing their faith but assuring them that they are right. They seem to feel that if all people don’t believe as they do that there’s a slight possibility that they are wrong and it scares them to death.
Christy, thank you so very much for saying what I have wanted to say for decades. I have been in that little ball of crying that you speak of and it is an awful, hurtful place to be. You are a very brave woman for speaking about it and you have a great deal of courage to do what you and I know was the right thing. I am hoping women like you and I can protect the choice for your daugher (5) and my daughter (25). Thank you again.
One of the number one reasons why women have abortions, besides health reasons, is because she gets pregnant by a violent or abusive man and fears having his child. This isn’t given much press. People don’t quite no what to do with this one. The number one most dangerous time in an abusive relationship is when she is pregnant. The number one cause of death for pregnant women is domestic violence, more so than car accidents.
This fact, this reality needs to be dealt with. It cannot be swept under the rug. It’s not just dangerous to bring a baby to term because of physiology. It is also dangerous depending on who the father is. For some women the father might be most likely to kill her while pregnant. For others it means tying herself to a man who is likely to use the child to continue to abuse her for many years and may also abuse the child. Since violent men have a higher risk of child abuse as well.
These realities are way different than the teenager having too much fun in the back seat of a car with a guy her own age.
That’s a myth.
Christy,
Thanks for the beautiful post. “The Peanut,” like her parents, is also “Mighty.” Enjoy.
I’ve been told that happens often – a couple gives up or decides to adopt – and then there your are….
De-lurking to say that lots of people believe this but it isn’t true. Previously infertile adoptive parents do not concieve at a higher rate than infertile adoptive parents who do not adopt. I just seems like that from the outside because infertility is a very private thing. You do not know which of your friends had trouble concieving unless they chose to tell you, but an adoptive family is out there for everyone to see.
Spreading this myth around is hurtful to adoptive families. Adoptive children and their families do not want to be seen as a way to a biological child. If a baby happens, it happens, but it is not a reason to adopt and for adoptive parents it is not always welcome.
Something similar happened to one of my cousins: their first child died of a rare genetic condition; they adopted two baby brothers after that, and then had one of their own (that I know of).
How important it is to share these stories. A group of us in McHenry County, Illinois have worked as reproductive rights activists since about 1990. We are all volunteers and find strength in both our activism and our friendships. It would be great to see grassroots pro-choice groups sprout up everywhere. The antis organize in churches, and it seems more difficult to organize on the prochoice side. Our website is at http://www.mcccprochoice.org. We’re always interested in hearing from other activists!
Christy — thanks for hunting down that link, sorry I wasn’t here earlier to thank you. I’ve spent a lot of time looking for that over the last 6 months, appreciate you taking the time.
Thanks for making a critical issue clear.
People who have never wrestled personally with abortion have nothing at risk. They can bravely make any claim about what they would do, or what other people should do.
It is that way with every issue. I was a correctional chaplain for 30 years, and listened to many politicians rant that we should lock up inmates and throw away the key. However, when their child ended up in prison, they wanted every service and program that they had voted against.
Poverty is a crisis for people that live there, but it is meaningless to people that have multiple houses or sugar mommas. We have to keep telling the stories of the high sacrifice people, and not let the comfortable call us a nation of whiners.