Well-placed Sacramento sources tell us the state’s politically powerful and well-financed prison guards union has lawyers drawing up language for a recall initiative.
Word is, the union will decide within the next couple of weeks whether to hit the streets with petitions.
Recalling Schwarzenegger – who himself rode into office with the 2003 recall of then-Gov. Gray Davis - is probably a long shot at best.
Still, Schwarzenegger has angered fellow Republicans with his call for a three-year, 1-cent sales-tax hike to help balance the 2008-09 budget, now more than two months overdue.
His popularity among voters overall is down in the 30 percent range – that’s the neighborhood where President Bush’s numbers are living among voters nationally – and it stands to drop even more the longer the budget mess drags on.
California has no statewide election scheduled until 2010, so if a recall is certified — and the prison guards do have the money to pay for the gatherers to accumulate the signatures required for certification — our state will face yet another, out-of-sequence, expensive special election.
California’s Constitution requires that a recall election be held within 80 days of the date the recall petition is certified, or within 180 days if a regularly scheduled statewide election comes within that time.
Gray Davis had only 24% approval going into his 2003 recall election; how would the Governator fare, especially since he seems to have lost control the state’s budget process this year? Wouldn’t it be amazing to see him Totally Recalled?
Organizers have 160 days to gather 987,226 signatures from the day their initiative’s petitions are approved by the Secretary of State. The 2003 recall election turned in their petitions about six weeks earlier than needed. Presuming the same schedule, and also presuming it again takes about seven weeks to get the petitioning organization approved, we’d be looking at a schedule like this:
October 27: Petitioning organization approved
April 6: Petition deadline
April 16?: Petitions approved
July 6: Latest possible day for special recall election.
Doing anything next spring? I hear California can be very pretty in April, May and June.
I wonder if Arianna Huffington will run for governor again?
All this speculation is, of course, predicated on the prison guards not getting whatever it is they want from the Governator in the current budget impasse. Given their wealth and clout, it’s more likely he’ll knuckle under to their demands rather than face a recall, but it’s fun to speculate, isn’t it?
UPDATE: Robert in Monterey, at Calitics, reminds Democrats that a recall is a political act, and we should evaluate a recall of Arnold in a political context. Will Democrats benefit? Will Californians?
On the merits alone Arnold deserves to be recalled. His failures as governor have caused the state worse pain than anything Gray Davis did. Arnold’s tax cuts and borrowing to pay for core services have broken our budget. He was nearly AWOL on the budget this year, and when he did get involved, it was to petulantly refuse to sign any new bills, breaking government even further. He wanted to make state workers suffer instead of doing the hard but necessary work of pushing Republicans to agree to a budget.
But a recall is a political act and has political consequences and it’s on those grounds that we need to assess it. A recall vote would likely take place sometime in 2009, with the next gubernatorial race taking place just one year later. That would entail a lot of campaigning and perhaps not so much governing.
A recall, as we saw in 2003, is unpredictable and even more personality-driven than normal. It also lacks a party primary, which is especially important for the Democrats. Given the number of big names showing interest in the 2010 nomination, a primary is the best way to not only choose from those candidates but to provide a referendum on the future of California Democrats – whether we’ll embrace a progressive future or remain mired in a corporatist past.
{YouTube clip from "Pumping Iron" courtesy of pont660}
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hahahahahahaha
karma and her payback. i have no sympathies for that fool.
Some of the most delicious irony imaginable!
Hey, Thank You Teddy!
Teddy! Karmic ass kicking is truly a joy to see.
um. i’m worried about Barrack.
Gotta love the irony of payback.
There are many good reasons to be. Which one?
I love it. It’s such fun to have chickens come home to roost. The man is detestable.
She is a sweet one, ain’t she?
I know we’ve been obsessed with the national gnus, but this was too enjoyable not to share. Imagine the prison guards funding a Total Recall of The Terminator! It’s too Kindergarten Cop for words.
Barack will be just fine, if we all do what we need to. In Florida, specifically, it’s important that the Boca Del Boca set learns all about the Wasilla Thrilla’s love for Jews For Jesus.
forker screwed my workers comp with his do-over and i know i will be one happy pensioner when the forker is not in power in ca anymore. *shrudder*
i blame the forking voters who voted for a movie star who refused to divulge what his platform and policy would be prior to the election. that whole forking recall was political kabuki and gamesmanship.
And disgraced, if there is any justice.
Run out of town on a rail. With splinters.
I feel so bad for Maria.Digg right here!
Ah heck, Ca’s budgets are never on time. This one is no exception. I remember when one didn’t get passed until sometime in October and the State was issuing ’warrants’. Bank of America was the only one who would cash them – and then they got a huge percentage over the top for holding them until the budget was passed. Cost the state millions in those neat little fees. Asinine!
Dugg, neuro!
dugg and thanks neuro
I would never bet against the prison guard union. I have always heard that they have multi-millions and more clout than anyone. So, I say go after the gov.
As I was reading your post I began to wonder if Arianna would throw her hat in the ring but of course you beat me to it. If not Arianna then perhaps a reasonable facsimile such as Tracy Ullman?
Then again, maybe Jane would be interested? In light of her post-partisan views, perhaps she could even snag an endorsement from Holy Joe…
Don’t quote me on that (I know nothinng!)
didn’t ahnold have their support during the recall?
Has California become ungovernable?
Bad as Arnold is, at this point he and the Democrats have had a deal to get a budget passed for some time, and a bunch of whacko Republicans in the legislature are saying no, no, no to everything. Since California is one of the very few states that requires a 2/3 majority to pass a budget, it’s possible for the minority Republicans to hold the state hostage every year.
Compared to the Republicans in the legislature, Arnold is vastly preferable. He’s definitely a Republican, who favors the interests of business over just about everything else, but he’s a much better politician than I expected him to be. He’s definitely moved towards the center in recent years, after trying and failing (badly) to get right-wing reforms passed by initiative.
Sure did. And that’s as much the problem as anything. To win in CA, you have to be in their pockets – Dem or Gooper.
I think he did but you know about worms turning.
I suppose DiFi might jump into this – god help us all.
While I am a very big union supporter, I have always been disturbed by the disproportionate clout of the prison guards union in most states. Has a tremendously distorting effect on state priorities and budgets. I would rather those resources went to schools or health care or the like.
ahnold shudda remembered that ya don’t fuck with the nurses, teachers and/or prison guards.
Mahalo for commenting on my post at the Orange Satan, wigwam! ;-)
Instead of wasting money on a recall, they should be campaigning to get Prop 13 overturned or at least modified in two ways: 1) remove that 2/3 requirement for funding stuff, and 2) remove the restriction on how much property taxes can go up from all corporate property.
Be a good start.
Does all of this mean that Schwarzenegger would not be a viable Senate candidate in 2010?
(I seem to be asking questions tonight. They are not rhetorical, however).
difi blerg difi and ahnold are reason’s i’m glad i’m not in ca anymore
If you put that money in education, you might end up with fewer inmates. Seems terribly short-sighted, Doc…
were you a union member as a cop, Suz?
I’m all for the nurses and teachers. The CA prison guards union seems like the worst of the worst kind of corruption.
Maybe Ahnold will join Maria on the left side of the bed…
Only if you are a prison guard.
Politician: Now if we could stop building prisons and filling them up with…
Knock knock at my door – a guy from the Prison guards union?
teamsters has quite a presence in law enforcement in the bay area.
Yep. Exactly.
I believe they are one reason we keep building prisons instead of schools. More prisons, more guards, more money, more influence. That’s how it works – but not just in Ca.
Let’s see – the enormous majority of the prisoners are in prison for…
Pot and coke.
So that’s the deal. OK.
Or head of the union. What kind of world do we live in where we can’t even trust prison guards..?
Have a great teamsters story. My first landlord in Chicago was the nephew of a capo in the Syndicate (started under Capone and continued into the 50s anyway). We he turned 18, he and a cousin went to their uncle and asked for jobs in the Syndicate. He told them they were crazy and he wouldn’t do it. He would get them real jobs. Next day they were both teamsters (then a wholly owned subsidiary of the Syndicate in chicago).
That’s sort of what i heard, too.
It is that way in a lot of states.
On a whole CA has been F’ed up since Reagan and Prop 13….. I lived there during those days…… I agree completely and the same yeahoos imported Prop 13 in Oregon in Measure 5 which in 1985 which screwed up that state too……
I was thinking DiFi might be the only Democrat who could clear the field. It’s really important to only have one viable Democrat on the ballot in a recall, as multiples split the vote. Then, of course, she would be running as an incumbent in 2010 and presumably not challenged in a primary.
Which makes me think it’s likely to happen just as the prison guards propose.
Prison guards union could ask the other unions to help finance the recall petition. State workers will hop on boardd after his order to ake then accept minimum wage. Then the partry is on. Most likely the candidate would be reelected 2010 in the regular election.
Teddy, I’m sorry to have gone O/t so soon. I’ve been telling people the same thing the last few weeks. And you’re right. I think he’ll be OK. What’s frustrating is to see how this is all being covered. It’s like he’s always been behind. Enough of that.
Neuro asks a good question. If you have 2 recalls in a row…. who can govern this place. If Arnold gets recalled won’t the R’s be gunning for Dem successor if there is one? I was involved in a local recall that was pretty soon before the general and alot of people who disliked the incumbent didn’t get with us. “What are you doing this now for?” The second to last paragraph you quote at rthe end makes good points. Given the timing, I dunno if it’s such a good idea. Then again, I’m 3000 miles away watching where hurricanes are going and trying to find something in my local paper that isn’t about Caylee or college football, so I don’t know what’s going on out there, really.
I doubt a recalled Arnold will have improved chances against Boxer the following year. Yet another reason to proceed with this.
Then again, maybe Jane would be interested? In light of her post-partisan views, perhaps she could even snag an endorsement from Holy Joe…
Jane doesn’t live there anymore. How many signatures do you need to get on the ballot out there?
On the up side, it would get her out of the Senate so we could get an actual progressive in there.
After thinking about it a bit, DiFi might do less damage in the Governors chair. At least we would get her off the GD Judiciary Committee.
Majority of prisoners are the result of drug prohibition creating a black-market economy that has appeared to grow exponentially since the 1930s. Wherever there are huge quantities of illegal revenue, there will be corresponding levels of violence.
Now as I turn life a page
To the land of the great Osage….
What’s new, if anything, Dr. Dick?
And we know that incarceration is absolutely the most effective way to combat drug addiction.
I don’t get California politics at all. Blue state gives us Reagan, Hayakawa, schmucks like that. I know there’s lotsa conservative ‘burbs and all, but there’s lotsa schools and well-educated people.
Was Arnold at the convention?
Not a lot. We had another cool wet weekend. Classes are going well and it looks like I have a really good group in my theory seminar. They are even talking about it outside of class.
I can’t really say I feel sorry for the Gropinator, but the budget mess has nothing to do with him. The pathetic legislature is more worthless than the United States Congress.
Oh fine. /s
You’re turning into an Oregonian Elitist?
I’m just kidding.
Thank you, Mrs. Reagan.
Maybe we should (*gasp*) split in two.
Like Carolina, or Dakota.
True, we wouldn’t want to treat it as a health issue and leave the CJS sitting around twiddling it’s thumbs.
Good story. Watched “Hoffa” with jack Nicholson the other night. i thought it sucked big time and was alot of bullshit but the Danny DeVito character was a pisser. They endorsed Nixon, the fuckers.
Those minority R’s have made it impossible for anything to get done. It’s not about caring one way or the other. It’s like the R’s in Congress – make sure that the Dems don’t get credit for anything.
Is that a newspaper? The Oregon Elitist?
I have heard so many people say that California is so huge that it is ungovernable. I’m pretty sure I believe it.
per wiki:
Thus the ballot chaos.
The very thought makes me tremor but you shouldn’t blame yourself, it’s no individual’s fault(s).
Yup, and she might appoint Gavin to replace her in the Senate. He’s what we call hereabouts a “progressive corporatist.”
Are they still holding their breath over that drilling crap? haven’t their faces turned blue? Or did they stop that and move on to stomping their feet? That was one of the most pathetic displays I’ve ever seen in Congress.
Pretty much, and like the congress we have the idiots who are hell bent on voting with the R’s. It’s been a really long time since anything worthwhile has gotten done in this state.
Especially because it’s impossible to get drugs in prison.
But Alaska is hugher and everybody loves the governor up there.
Way cool.
With the high price of tobacco, I hear inmates are trading drugs for cigarettes.
That vote happened – a referendum was passed in the affirmative by 27 of the Northern counties. Humboldt was the only one where it wasn’t on the ballot but a survey run the day before the election it would have passed there too. Too bad that’s all the further it went. Of course the next year, Butte County declared bankruptcy!
Not really true or the country would be ungovernable. The real problem is that the state contains so many diverse and competing interests that it is hard to achieve a consensus or even plurality. It is not helped at all by a legislative minority (the Rethugs) who have no real interest in actually governing, and just want to obstruct the Dems.
All 670,053 of them.
I think it’s still going on. That’s where the reporter cornered Westmoreland, when he made his famous “uppity” comment about the Obamas. I wonder how Nancy Pelosi plans to get the GOPs off the House floor when it comes time to gavel them back into actual session.
And who will clean up their candy wrappers and used condoms littered about?
The state isn’t too big, there are too many people. We can all learn something from Alaska…
Like Obama.
Maybe that’s the whole point. Maybe they really don’t want to change anything or do anything. I certainly don’t see good coming from the “lege.”
Respectfully, it’s the same difference.
And by the way, the Democrats in California are no great shakes, either.
California banned smoking in prison in 2005.
I’ve been wondering about that. We sure are a large and diverse state.
We could do LA and SF together and let Bakersfield go with San Diego? Or is it better to have the diversity, do you think?
Hurray for Melanie Sloan and CREW:
LOL. That will be a messy clean up, to be sure.
Ha.
Well, I hear a pretty good writer just move there! (Suzanne are you listening? You could do it from home. :)
It’s all the Mexicans fault.
In the GOP handbook I think condoms are referred to as “candy wrappers.”
I always thought the split would be NoCal/SoCal, but you raise an interesting point. Perhaps there could be a Coastal California and an Inland California? WestCA and EastCA?
So?
Drugs in prison have always been illegal.
Your point is???
>snark
The problem is not really the size or diversity of the state, but the unwillingness of some players to cooperate. They insist on getting their way or they won’t play and the whole system breaks down. It does not have to happen that way and other large population states and the national government manage to function (though the latter has been in trouble of late for the same reasons). That is not a function of size or population will not necessarily change if the state divides.
Assuming we do win do we have any plans to pay California’s bills? Maybe a tax on legal weed?
‘I wonder if Arianna Huffington will run for governor again?’
Doesn’t Caleefohnya have a ‘No two “funny talkers” in a row for Governor’ rule?
;>)
Never been there, but I always figured Sacramento was a bogus place to live. maybe it’d just be doing Arnold a favor. never really understood how he made the adjustment t from SoCal/Hollywood to Sacramento.
Well that would rule out all of the Republicans.
The democrats are horribly corrupt.
Te Republicans are horribly corrupt.
The state budget is like the 7th, 8th, 9th largest on the planet.
Money = politics, and here, we’re talking spectacularly vast sums.
hee hee
Geez, what’s the point in going to prison if you can’t do anything fun? I’m surprised those guys haven’t resorting to sodomy just to pass the time.
Arnold doesn’t live in Sacramento, BFL. He stays at the Hyatt when he needs to be in town, which isn’t often. And he commutes by Gulfstream home to Brentwood.
See, I always assumed the North vs the South too. But we could do like Israel and Palestine. We get the coast and they can have the desert and central valley. That’s kind of snarky, especially for me, but it’s always fun to suppose. And LA and SF share more economic and professional interests, in my stupid opinion, than other parts of the state.
If DiFi runs the Repubs will put up a token candidate. I don’t think anyone can beat her.
It’ll be cleaner and easier to re-do the textbooks that way when the western part of the state gets quaked into the ocean.
gotta have a home first demi (laughing)
He didn’t. He flies in his private jet from LA every day.
That talk of splitting CA in at least two or more states has been going on since the 60’s when I moved back there……
Has anyone heard how the US Military protected the inmates at Gitmo from Hurricane Ike?
IMO it is a direct result of gerrymandering districts to death. It’s hard as hell to get a worthless bastard out and replace them with someone who might want to change things.
Makes sense. Were other guvs like that? Jerry Brown?
I grew up in Oklahoma and spent 12 years in Chicago, so I know from corrupt politics (pretty normal at the state and local level in my experience). Don’t really know much about California politics other than the more superficial stuff, but I do not see how anything changes, other than the size of the budget, by splitting up the state. Believe me, in Oklahoma they fight just as hard over crumbs.
That ‘unwillingness to cooperate’ thing has been going on for some time now – not just in California. The GOP has been the party of obstruction since Jimmy Carter. When he came into office they set as a goal not to let him succeed at anything.
The failure of Health Care Reform under Clinton was as a result of Bob Dole whipping the Senate with “we’re not going to let them get anything passed no matter what we have to do”.
The Dems took over Congress in 2006 – but with the razor-thin majority in the Senate, the GOP was/is able to stop everything just with the cloture votes. They don’t even have to actually DO a filibuster. And they do. They have stopped more legislatiion in the last session than in six previous ones put together.
I guess that is one reason I would really like for this national election to be an absolute blow-out. We need to figure out a way to destroy this incarnation of the Republican Party – no shards left so the actually decent conservatives can start over.
But just how that is going to happen is beyond my powers of prediction.
He doesn’t live in the Governors mansion because he can’t smoke in it. He flies back and forth from Socal to work and then back.
That’s not funny talkers, that’s ass talkers.
;>)
off to the mines again tomorrow, so i gotta get some shuteye. sorry i can’t stay up and learn more about the _____________ state. what’s california’s nickname? I haven’t seen a Cal license plate in ages
Since the Pacific plate is riding up over the continental plate, it is actually the rest of the country that will be submerged and the far west coast will remain above.
Golden.
That is a problem in most states. The whole redistricting thing is another example of the incumbents’ protection game.
Jerry Brown lived in a small apartment that he personally paid the rent on. He shut the Governor’s mansion and fired all the ’servants’. He also drove around in a little Plymouth Valiant (that was about 15 years old at the time) rather than the limo used by the previous occupant. His tenure was spectacularly marked by him not spending any State money for his transportation or housing needs.
golden
g’nite bfl
Remember when Arnold got Warren Buffet and others to appear as part of his financial advisers rhen Warren said Arnold needed to raise taxes and he was out.
This time lets listen to Warren just because someone tells you something that you do not want to hear is no reason to axe them unless you are a pathetically insecure girly man pushing steriod needles in your rear to impress the ladies.
Night Bfl. Try not to get blown away any time soon.
Yep. There is also a guy named Darrell Steinberg, the Senate pro Tempore-elect, who shows a lot of promise.
Straight arrow.
She didn’t jump in last time, said she was burned by having been subject to a recall as Mayor and didn’t think they were wise. But this is different: she could be elected very easily if she clears the Democratic field, which she would do, I think. The GOP bench is so weak and divided, they’ll never agree to clear their field unless they come up with another mega-superstar.
See, the key is that the incumbent governor can’t be on the second ballot. So, if Arnold is recalled, he’s out.
I wonder whether Clint would be interested?
Or that Huckabee fan, Chuck Norris?
if npb was around, she may be able to tell ya what clint is up to.
I would love to see Chuckles handed his ass in an election.
But, home is where the heart is.
And, speaking of which, how is your dear Token and kitty?
Mary Matalin’s husband, making sense:
I don’t get why DiFi would be interested in going from the Senate where she has a lot of seniority and sits on all the most powerful committees and has national exposure all the time to being Governor? Usually that is the other way around?
i spoke to their caretaker today and they are well loved and behaving. token has turned into the band dog, hanging out when they are doing rehersal, being cool and lowkey. bailey takes off to her hideyhole when anyone comes over.
i may, repeat may, be headed down to get them in the next couple of weeks. depends on how the housing search goes and other considerations.
What are Arnold’s accomplishments in office? Both as we see it and the GOP sees it. What do we want, what do they want, and has Arnold made anyone happy? Just who is his base and why do they support him? How strong is that support?
Could be that she can’t run for Senate again – she will be 90 million years old in 2012.
Plus, there are 100 US Senators, but only one Governor of California.
I agree that DiFi could probably do less damage as Governor than on the SJC (was that you, newtonusr?) but there’s all the water deals to be done here that might have her salivating over being in Sac. And she can buy whatever she wants, or Mr DiFi can. So the election wouldn’t really be a strain on the party’s finances.
I’m not sure we can elect a progressive Democrat in the primary if she runs in 2010, so it might be better to give her a leg up on the GOP by getting her into office in a recall.
Besides, the karmic, it is sweet. Hasta la vista, etc.
Old person, short commute?
corporations are his base.
I talked to people today who mostly said “no I’m not doing well, and did you know that old guy doesn’t remember how many houses he has? He’s too old.”
Is token wearing sunglasses?:)
True and governor of California, with the fifth largest economy in the world or some such, is a whole lot bigger deal than governor of Montana (or Alaska).
My mom says her crew of bridge-players, McCain’s age on up, is appalled that he’s on the ballot. She hangs with a bad crowd, too — buncha GOPs.
His accomplishments include putting 8 initiatives on the ballot that brought together every powerful union in this state to make damn sure all 8 went down in flames.
It was me, and it was more theoretical than practical.
Anyway, I’m waiting for Jackie Speier to run for Governor. That will get my attention and industry in a big hurry.
Have you talked to Token and Bailey on the phone, Suz?
I betcha you’re missing them fiercely…! ;-)
She will have a rough time from the Corps, though. She tried to make them not lie on credit card offers and suchlike. Did not please the Corps.
*laughing* knowing how n dresses up goldie, i would not be the least bit surprised token is wearing a tie-dyed bandana or tshirt
I love it. He’s with the band, man.
I think you told us the band practices in that common building? Is that right. Token Dude holding down the fort AND Almost Famous.
only token – once
Bedtime for Bonzo here. Have to warp and corrupt all those young minds again in the morning plus write a test so I can torture them on Friday.
…and was miraculously reelected.
Dude brought in the best campaign consultants in the business. They were Democrats.
I recall it well. Some of my favorite pols in CA stood in her way at the behest of CitiCorp. Disgusting.
Aloha, Dr. D!
the clubhouse. i would not be surprised if by the time i get down there that he hasn’t been to a few gigs.
g’nite dr dick
http://www.calcars.org/calcars-news/995.html
It would be sweet revenge on Susan Kennedy, Arnold’s lesbian Democrat Chief of Staff, if he were recalled.
And I thought I was torqued when she accepted!
Then we must separate Arnold from his base. The longer California is in debt thanks to Arnold who said he would fix things the more the interest grows on that debt.
So its either bite the bullet and pay now or pay much much more later.
Now given how Bush has put the whole country in debt interest rates are going to rise soon right after the election.
The middle class is tapped out $4 or more a gallon of gas has tapped them out that only leaves the big corporations able to pay, well that and a tax on weed.
Now then do the big corporations think that they will get taxed more if California’s debt goes up because Arnold can’t balance a budget or less?
(sigh I know appeals to logic and reality do not work with GOPers)
But its all I have.
lln upstairs
That is good forcing the unions to work together…granted thats good for us:)
Still our strengths and Arnold’s weakness must be listed before we decide on a plan.
He has no base. It’s weird.
Goopers vote for him cause it says “Republican” on his campaign literature.
Democrats vote for him cause they think he’s not a Republican.
Weird.
Oh no, no, no – no Dirty Harry – he is ancient, cranky and oh so much worse than DiFi and at the risk of offending his legion of fandom outside our Golden State, Clint has not grown old gracefully and as bat shit vindictive Conservative (to his core)as they come. Just ask Sandra Locke or a host of others, including Arnold, who recently fired him (with cause) from the State Parks Commission. :~D
Late, Late is served upstairs…
Yep. He’s probably having some fun, but his heart belongs to mommy.
I’m head out too.
Good night doc and all.
Good night every…… have a nice late late night …..
run Arianna run!
What–it’s this late, and nobody has Dugg this post yet?
Well, you can start Digging now!
Please disregard my comment at 167. I meant to place those Digg links on the Late Late Nite thread above. But you are welcome to Digg this post at the top of the page, and to come to Late Late Nite and Digg that post too.
As I recall, (no pun intended)
Govenator’s last election. He was very appologetic and that he learned his lesson from his extreme right wing attempts at conservtive ideology.
He said he learned his lesson? What happened?
If Calif outs Arnold, they must remove Caongressman Darryl Issa with him.
They are a package. Issa was the one to fund the Gray davis petition and the puppet master behind Arnold. Issa is a lunatic and should not only be impeached but commited for mental health.
bwaaahaaahaaaa . . .Prison Guard Union
inadvertently created by Pete Wilson who gave the go ahead for what, 9 of those prisons, 11 ? you know, the same Pete Wilson who provided Arnold with a machine
but they cut their political teeth with Gray Davis via contributions and GOTV
Ahnold should simply do the right thing: increase taxes on the uber rich in California so that taxes there are properly progressive, the way the great goddess Diana intended, quit borrowing in lieu of taxing those who can most afford to be taxed, and pay your state workers as they are supposed to be paid. Period.
He wont so too bad on the recall. Arguing against it because it is a “political act with consequences” is too fucking bad. That is the same criminal argument used to argue against impeaching the felons in the White House.
If anyone is checking back here…
There was a move to split CA into two states back around 1858- got sidelined by politics of Civil War and CA alignment.
There’s a classic book “Southern Californian- an island on the land” that discusses the historic and geographical divide in CA- south of the Tehachapi, north of the Tehachapi
http://www.amazon.com/Southern…..0879050071
I heard he consults with Grover Norquist, which in my book would be reason enough to turn him out.