Two years ago, on the 21st of November, 2006, one of the members of the team at GorillasGuides wrote of just this. Laith was a valued voice speaking out for justice in Baghdad before he was killed in one of the many attacks on pilgrims. He was also the father of Guides member Mohammed Ibn Laith who many of us know from his visits here. On that November day, Laith wrote of the kidnapping, torture and murder of a young Iraqi man, seized from his home by US and Green Zone forces – and then warned us all:
The next time you hear an American talk of "freedom," the next time you hear an American talk of "democracy," the next time you hear an American talk of how terrible the death squads are remember something. The most violent and brutal death squads of all are the ones bought, and paid for, and trained, by the Americans and when they can’t do the job they get their American buddies to help them catch their victims.
You should remember something else. A people and their army who behave like this abroad invariably bring this criminal and brutish behaviour home and turn it against their own people. It is not only revolutions that eat their own.
Laith
This is a lesson many in the streets this week understood – as Betsy Raasch-Gilman an nonviolence trainer and member of the RNC Welcome Committee noted:
There are no terrorists in the Ramsey County Sheriff’s Jail. There are terrorists in the Excel center, there are terrorists in the White House. And that’s why we organized these protests. The house raids that we saw in Minneapolis and St Paul this week are very similar to the house raids that have been carried out by our Marines in Iraq and in Afghanistan. The government cannot carry on a repressive foreign policy without it coming home to roost and that is what we have seen this week.
For Iraqis – for whom house raids and air strikes and torture are horribly commonplace – the latest threat comes with the news of new cases of cholera – and fear of a major outbreak developing. Six new deaths from cholera were reported in just the last two days in Babil alone and over 200 cases are suspected in the governate.
Reports from across Iraq are frightening – in Kirkuk for example,
… health experts say that the main causes of cholera – decrepit water and sewage systems and inadequate healthcare – have not improved.
“The poor services and lack of healthcare put people’s lives at risk,” said Sabah Amin Ahmed, the director of healthcare for Kirkuk province. “Most Kirkuk residents cannot easily access clean drinking water or a good sewage system.”
According to the Iraqi health ministry and the World Health Organisation, WHO, over 30 per cent of water samples taken in Kirkuk have tested positive for bacterial contamination this year.
Today’s LA Times has more:
The problem stems from Iraq’s aging water treatment facilities, which were damaged or destroyed during the war and have yet to be replaced or repaired.
A U.S. oversight agency, the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraqi Reconstruction, says after projects are completed, there is no guarantee they’ll be up to standards. The problems range from shoddy workmanship of some projects to mishandling of others once they are handed off to Iraqis to manage. An April report by the agency surveyed 17 projects across Iraq and said 13 had deficiencies, ranging from minor workmanship details to major construction faults.
Cholera kills – often children who are particularly vulnerable. And as surely as our bombs kill Iraqis, so too our destruction of an already vulnerable infrastructure and our neglect of the most basic needs of the people living under our occupation.
People last week were in the streets of St Paul making these connections – what do we plan to do this week to call for an end to this devastation?
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Zed aint dead
as always, you make my sunday night.
so I’, thinking……………… nah. it;s off topic. it can wait.
good job as always. thank god, the surge worked, huh?
Good evening Siunshine. Another excellent post and I wanted to thank you for everything you did @ the silo this week.
Been thinking about what to do this week since Congress will be back in session. Noticed the Senate will be spending Defense death dollars again. Not sure what for, atm, but I know they will kill.
Anyway, I plan on making a few calls to oppose any consideration of HCR 362: “The Ahmadinejad Protection and Promotion Act of 2008, encourage the DC folks to stay away from the Secure America through Verification and Enforcement Act and spend as little deadly defense dollars as possible.
Aloha, Siun! I just finished up today’s post…! ;-)
repeated, emboldened, and saved for future referance
how can we possibly bring our country back…there is only one method, the criminals must be brought to the bar of justice, they must be charged with treason, war crimes, crimes against humanity, crimes against our children, crimes against our constitution and our law
Thanks for the post Siun.
I think it is very important to underscore the connections between all these things. It all stems from this corrupt administration and its basic disrespect for the Constitution and for the rule of law more generally, around the world.
The events of the past week (the violence coming home to roost) makes me sad, and a little hopeless. I feel like more and more people agree with the kind of posts you and the others at FDL are writing. But how to change it?
Beefart – go right ahead, no problem with off topic
Eureka! Welcoming back congress sounds like a good idea – maybe we can ask them to rush water treatment supplies etc to Iraq – and medicine.
Whaa…? not F-16’s…? ;-)
Perris – good thiniking – I’ve bolded that section now … Laith was a very wise man and is greatly missed even by those of us who only had a small chance to read his thoughts. He had so much to teach us all – and his voice was silenced by the occupation as surely as if he was shot outright. US forces and the Green Zone claimed to have security for pilgrims under control and blocked the pilgrim’s own security efforts – another leader lost.
I was just about to hit the hay,when i saw your post was up had to read it
Shit now I’m gonna need medication to get to sleep!
Just kiddiing great post ,Thanks!
Booby Woodward was saying that Bush was rather indignant that the Iraqis weren’t more greatful to the US for all we’ve done.
-G
The only thing lacking during the RNC thuggery that happened in the Twin cities was the devastating air strikes…! All other travesties were perpetrated…!
Fine essential post, Siun, thank you.
Siun, Thank you! The gratuitous police violence has been ignored by msm, by fellow progressives. Denial has reached gargatuan proportions. Tunnel vision. Incredible.
I remember hearing on the NewsHour or maybe CRose a woman from a humanitarian organization pleading with the panel as they debated the wisdom of going to War with Iraq. She pleaded that the “infrastructure” would be profoundly damaged for years and years. How insane it all was. Of course she was elbowed out by the rest of the panel and not taken seriously. Wish they would rerun that moment. I heard her! She sounded like she knew exactly what would happen and she was right.
The profiteering of Cheney construction cronies has been pitiful, the quality of life so decimated, for those who managed to survive. (I am still trying to process the 800,000 estimate total of Iraqis killed.)
Our collective dark karma for Iraq as Americans is profound.
Heh, ‘Kill the bastards! Kill the bastards! And you’ll succeed.’… And…
I think this stems from, along side with what you said Parsley, George W. Bush’s general and encompassing disregard and disrespect for life itself. He and his cabal have no respect for human or any other form of life, and no concept of suffering, pain or loss. NONE!
From that dark place within the less than human and inhumane creature comes this sorrow, death, destruction and disregard for basic human dignity.
THAT’s what needs to be examined at The Hague. And then removed from the rest of us forever.
If you believe in karma ,be ready for some major payback
if there is profit in it it’s ok
we have to make the world a safe place for Americans to make $$$$
Great post, Siun.
Thank you.
Thanks Kirk – and thanks for your great posts this week!
The Rethugs are raving paranoids, which explains the violence perpetrated on the demonstrators in St Paul. A large part of the American people are fearful paranoids. It is a crap shoot whether we will be brave enough to face down our demons, or have them destroy us and possibly the rest of the world in the process. It’s still hard to believe that they can do it; but we have the evidence. If Ms Palin is elected President (which is what a McCain victory implies), it’s all over. No place for any of us to hide. Those of us in Canada will be like the Franks in Holland.
In this connection, I recall a snatch of a poem about an American soldier in the early years of the last century, when the U.S. was fighting in the Phillippines:
He would never dream
I’d like to echo ES’s thanks for all your posts during the RNCC! ;-)
Drat.
He would never dream
That his bullet’s scream
Flew wide of its island mark,
Home to the heart
Of his darling land
Where she stumbled and bled
In the dark.
Bleeding still.
Thanks CT – Lindsay did awesome work reporting from the streets. It was a treat to get to support her.
Lindsay was really great. We do have the very best writers here at the Lake and it’s a pleasure to just read.
Thanks to you and the others who post here at FDL, as well as the many folks who post their comments at this site
I have learned far more than I ever could by watching TV newscasts or reading the newspapers
Thanks,and keep up the great work1
As my friends at the Black Cross Health Collective say:
Fight the power, do no harm
(and thanks to greenharper for his choice to stand up for the Rule Of Law and — drawing upon his previous experience as a Federal prosecutor and former Chief Counsel for Interpol — demand justice from the Ramsey County Attorney)
My attention is split now, between here and the Beach House where Laura Doty just posted…! ;-)
Greenharper – I had not seen your letter – wow! thank you for doing that … wow!
Folks – follow Kirk’s link to greenharper’s comment – we all need to be stepping up like this.
It was a phenomenal letter! Mahalo, greenharper!
Looks like McCain has beaten MSNBC into submission.
Matthews and Olbermann dumped from debate coverage.
Submission accomplished.
This election will be in the bag for Grampy and Moosehunter.
-G
They can decide who the moderators are but they can’t answer the questions for Obama and McC. That’s where it will work for us.
Good Gawd, not David Gregory spearheading the coverage…! 8-(
I hope it doesn’t impact Rachel’s chances…
Ha! after Rachel’s comments on Friday nite calling them all a bunch of lying liars you think they’d let her anywhere near the debates? She’ll be lucky to get with ten miles of a stump appearance of either of the Rethug candidates!
Republicans at the RNC – “Drill Baby, Drill!
Republicans on Iraq – Kill Baby, Kill!
The only rhythm they have.
ain’t that the truth!
Siun, thanks for the post. I was screaming at the screen when I saw the video of that cop hosing that protestor with pepper spray. Her crime? She was just standing there holding out a flower to the idiot. Grrr!
I understand that New York City has finally settled the last of the hundreds of lawsuits emanating from the RNC Convention in 2004. This one was worse by several orders of magnitude. St. Paul and Ramsey County had better have a very large fund for legal expenses because among the protestors and journalists, were also a whole bunch of lawyers from legal aid.
I hope it gets so bad that no city wants to ever host the Rethugs again!
I was primarily thinking of her show that hasn’t even premiered yet…! Watch MSNBC’s ratings plummet with that asinine decision since many like their ‘emperor has no clothes’ attitude… at least in KO’s case, sometimes in Tweety’s case…
Attention NBC… News Flash, knuckling under to the right wing won’t prevent or delay their pummeling you next time they get the urge. If anything, it makes it more likely because it WORKED so well the last time.
Well, this isn’t all new – they told KO he couldn’t do commentary AT the convention either. Of course that didn’t stop him from commenting anyway!
Sorry to be off topic, but I simply must get the word out:
I am in shock!
Well, there were the helicopter gunships flying overhead, but those were strictly for surveillance.
I really don’t think St. Paul wants to see another RNC. For one thing, there was next to no business boost for St. Paul, aside from the hotels. This is because the delegates were not allowed to roam free around downtown St. Paul, but were shuttled to Minneapolis for lunch and dinner breaks. Thus, Minneapolis got all of the shopping business and none of the tear gas.
And I hope no insurance company will cover them with a policy.
St Paul is our first lesson as whites to what our black and brown brothers and sisters have known for a long time.
TheraP – do you have a link for that quote? I’d love to followup on that story.
Last night I heard the most outrageous piece of hate radio I have ever heard. It was a produced interview with 2 interviewers and a black man who’s on the 700 Club.
It was stunning in its relentless destruction of character and leftist poltical ideas.
They stated Obama supported infanticide, submission to Islam, was going to betray the military. Democrats were going to deliberately destroy the economy because they hate America.
We’re getting into scary, scary times.
-G
And the fact that most of the protesters (potential customers…)were rounded up and herded off, further denying them of any financial benefits…! ;-)
Eggszackly!
Maybe it will give people more of a clue about who’s running the asylum.
I am the link! It happened to me!
You can email me and I’ll send a phone number if that would help. We have the DVD and the accompanying literature to which it was attached.
I can tell you this has galvanized my husband who has an EU passport. He is going to gather every Obama sign he can get his hands on tomorrow and volunteer to help the campaign!
It’s important to realize that the type of abuse seen on St Paul has happened a number of times – as JayBur above notes, it’s common in black and brown communities – but it is also common at WTO demostrations, etc. We just rarely see it …
Yes.
And it is also another lesson. To all of the sheeple out there who think that losing their privacy rights to the enn ess aay, losing the right of habeas corpus, all those nice little sneak and peek provisions in the Patriot (not) Act, et al, ad nauseum don’t apply to them – well, they just did. Of course these protesters were already aware but the fact that all this crap happened and a few people actually saw it should tell them something.
Too bad the FCP chose not to report it. M*****F*****s!
TheraP – thank you. I’ll send you an email – would like to know more and see if we can chase this.
McAngry vows to put Democrats in his cabinet. After they’ve vetted via waterboard.
McAngry will apoint Traitor Joe Lieberdink and Angry Zell Miller and will hire a professional back patter to honor himself for a job well done.
-G
it’s worth clicking the link, just for a look at the picture.
Nobody would have seen it if they weren’t watching FDL and other blogs.
As we know, last weeks travesties were barely covered by MSM and it appears to have fallen completely off their radar. The resulting lawsuits and I assume there will be many, are the only thing that will keep much needed attention focused on the subject. I read something recently about Michael Chertoff having been granted (mostly) unpublicized (undoubtedly unconstitutional) authority to essentially suspend key components from the Bill of Rights at will. Makes me wonder if there is something in the fine print which exempts the DHS from potential lawsuits.
Some surprize, do you think the Democrat might be Joe Liebermann, as say Secy of State?
Did the literature identify the source of the gift?
My husband was the person who found the DVD attached to its cardboard blurb this morning. He figured out right away that it was likely some time of propaganda. But not till tonight when he actually watched the whole thing (I cannot watch that stuff for long!) did he find that it was “worse” than he had imagined!
I have already sent a letter to the Times. It may have been put in by the distributor (without their knowledge). But it’s the FACT of this that is most disturbing!
Surprise. I have to start looking at the preview.
Bless you!
There probably is. And it will be in some piece of legislation that has nothing to do with homeland security or anything else you would normally think of.
Although not always.
Did you know that as of Jan 1, 2009, ALL credit card transactions will be reported to the IRS? (courtesy of the bankruptcy bailout bill)
Or that all the ‘civil unrest’ in St. Paul could have been grounds for GWB to declare martial law? (thank goodness he didn’t get to go there!) courtesy of the “John Warner Military Appropriations Act of 2006″.
etc etc.
The RNC actually took out a $10 million insurance policy to settle police-brutality claims.
He said, without a trace of irony.
Clearly, all those short-sighted pacifists such as Gandhi and MLK could have accomplished a lot more with a fleet of armored personnel carriers with turret-mounted .50-caliber belt-fed machine guns.
i’m not sure, but it seems possible that the violence in St. Paul was taken to a new level (at least compared to global justice protests in the usa). will have to wait for folks to get back home and have a chance to step back and evaluate their experiences. looking forward to reading report-backs that result.
at the moment though, i’m taking lisa’s comment seriously (from democracy now!):
Its over at Americablog that Keith Olbermann will NOT be doing the Presidential debates…. NBC/MSNBC folded to pressure from the wacko right….. I guess I will be watching it on CSPAN for sure….. I’m surprised they didn’t ban Rachel too
Well, based on the crap I saw on the videos – $10 million is not near enough. That lady that got hosed with the pepper spray was taken to jail – and then not allowed to shower. She reportedly has 1st degree burns all over her body.
No, Minister of Backstabbing.
-G
Yup, because this time around 1) the cops were so indiscreet as to catch a few MSM reporters in their dragnets, and 2) people with cell phones could document what was happening before the official narrative could get established.
Ironically, As I was taught by the Army, .50 cal’s were not to be used against personnel, according to Geneva Conventions, only equipment… Some individuals said aim at the helmets… That’s equipment…! Sad, eh?
ian has fresh threadiness upstairs
Exactly. And the city’s on the hook for everything over the $10 million limit. Plus, no insurance company will ever write such a policy again. That last tidbit may be what saves us in the end.
Where every cop is a criminal and all the sinners’ saints.
-G
We need to get the word out to stay away from MSNBC/NBC.
And what’s your point?
You mean he won’t be doing commentary after the debates? I guess I should go look.
It does seem odd that they would cut KO, but continue with Rachel. Maybe the Maddow/Buchanan tete a tete gets good ratings?
Thanks Selise – if Lisa Fithian says worse than Miami … shudder
then wtf is the Richland County Sheriff’s Department doing with one? and where the fuck did the $ come from?
Hey Suz
Did you see Audrey’s comment wrt to Noonan?
He loves the Stones, sees them whenever he gets the chance… Fred… and Barney.
Confessions of an RNC security guard
http://www.salon.com/opinion/f…..rnc_guard/
Thera – thank you for bringing this up. I really want to track down who inserted these in the Times and go after this … the demonization of our Muslim brothers and sisters is horrifying and that movie is a prime example. I thought it was just making the Fox news circuit but if they are paying what it costs to do inserts like that – ugh.
Good question on the first part and the second is easy… The Dept. of Homeland Security, natch…!
Please extend my very best wishes to Noonan. The shock must be horrible. In addition to the loss of his mother I would guess that his dad was badly injured.
exactly. lisa (along with starhawk) i trust more than anyone else i can think of – because of their extensive experience and also their ability to keep their cool and think clearly in midst of all hell breaking loose. (i was with them in miami and saw what they are capable of).
You mean as opposed to the ’stones’ in his head?
CT – if you are right, that means it was probably paid out of a congressional appropriation. would love to know, if so, was it the 110th congress.
Would your husband have any family members who’d like to adopt a
slightly…er…somewhat..uh..used psychiatrist?An EU passport is sounding awfully good right now.
I probably have some of those too. Makes a good beat, though. Easy to dance to.
Yeah, I know the drill. I was present at the riots in East Oakland during the Patti Hearst kidnapping. I saw how the news media actually started that riot, and then I saw how they reported what happened on the 6 o’clock news that night. Three people died and a ten-square-block area of Oakland was destroyed – in an area of tiny businesses, substandard housing and a lot of really poor people living on the edge already.
That’s why I do not trust the media as far as I can see them – and I mean in person!
‘zackly! I’ve got maracas in there!!
Copied and pasted into message.
Here in the Land Of Christ’s True Followers it is ever so easy to pass off what we Americans brought to Iraq as just so much “too bad” and “we are the Good Guys and shit happens” lines of reasoning.
Each Sunday millions of Americans walk into Christian churches and profess an abiding faith in the Prince of Peace. Americans are told over and over about how blessed they are and how God surely must be an American.
Since March of 2003 when Americans invaded and soon after began plans for a long stayon in Iraq the Iraqi social fabric has been torn repeatedly into shreds. Built up infrastructure laid waste. Violence and death dealing made common. Around four million Iraqis or likely many more made into refugees. Similar to what Israel did to Arab Palestine. Still does.
The Americans have been directly responsible for above being they in fact are who govern Iraq and brought mayhem and death dealing to Iraqi people.
This American Debacle in Iraq is more and more taking on the shape of what the Americans did to the Filipinos at turn of last century from the 19th century.
For those who who think what Americans are doing in Iraq is some kind of new Americanism in action seek out and read about what Americans did to the Filipinos after Americans “liberated” the Philippines in Spanish-American War.
wow. nothing i’ve heard of this decade comes anywhere close to what you experienced.
but wrt your message on trust. agreed. in miami, i’d see things with my own eyes and then come back to the house at the end of the day to watch the police chief telling the most outrageous lies on tv “news”
I agree that the US has not been as pristine as ‘we’ would like to think. I think the major difference between then and now is this: back then – the main bulk of the population could plead ignorance since there was no 24-hour news cycle and internet and all the access to information. Everything had to come by ship – including communications from the ‘field’ to the government.
Today – with instant communications – there is no excuse for a population to be so apathetic to what is being done in our name. We have been subjected to a singularly effective form of brainwashing by the GOP and its minions for the past 40 or so years – and we have succumbed. But this is no excuse. We let it happen. It is still going on. Brave people are shouting from the rooftops about it – and still everyone turns away. I wish I could say that our elections will change everything. I cannot. Even Barack Obama says to us that HE cannot do this, that WE must. And I am really afraid that WE will not.
Thanks, demi. Just pasted the best wishes part, I hope? The latter was merely speculation.
I sure hope his dad’s physical injuries weren’t too severe, they have a lot to cope with as it is.
Sadly, not until the new season of American Idol anyway.
I don’t know if those riots were any worse than many other riots, ‘civil actions’ or anything else. All I can tell you is what actually happened that day. As you well know – given that the media actually perpetrated that one, I cannot say anything about other events that are reported one way or the other on anything.
And based on what happened in St. Paul – the total and conspicuous lack of coverage says another…
Right. If only we could vote on the war and other issues by dialing this number for yes, and another one for no!
Just your first sentence.
Hey, rat, hope your personal life if going well. You’re the new grandmother? (sorry, if I’m mistaken. I try to keep up the the news here.)
The lack of coverage certainly is conspicuous. There was plenty of coverage from the streets of Chicago in ‘68. Almost enough to make you wonder if the feds have brought pressure to bear on media execs. Not so long ago it would have been nearly inconceivable but after the telecom abuses, etc., etc. almost anything seems possible.
It certainly is conspicuous – especially since all of the FCP were patrolling the streets in Denver trying to find a PUMA to pick a fight with – and they spent two days discussing that one Code Pink lady that got into the convention floor.
In St. Paul – there were only two veterans who got to speak. One of them was a protester who did his “speech” while he was being dragged out by the RNC thugs. Nice. That was barely noticed or totally ignored.
Well, shall we go upstairs?
I am personally going to the biggest Mosque in town here tomorrow. And let them know what I think of this!
I’m sure it’s gone to many battleground states.
This is so totally unAmerican. I am sick at heart!
Thanks but you must have me confused with someone else. As something of a social pariah, I have failed to complete one of the requisite steps to becoming a grandparent, namely having children.
Thank you for keeping us mindful of history – we are a country of amnesiacs I think.
Oops.
Yep, That would do it. :)
He’s a droll and good writer. Thanks.
Well this may be worth a try.
Sign the petition
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/bringback/
Good Question. Got any answers? Nations, like individuals, have runs of luck. When things go good, they can’t make a mistake. When things go bad, nothing comes out right. I have this sinking that McCain the reformer, it’s hard to write that without gagging, will win and shortly thereafter be succeeded by Palin. There’s not much time.
One thing we can do is realize it’s up to us not leaders and we have to somehow organize so we can call nationwide demonstrations, not just locally when something happens as in St Paul. We do it through the internet-sorry I don’t know enough to know how it might be done, but petitions to MSNBC won’t do it. They certainly won’t do it with our elected officials. The party is about to get rough and we are totally unprepared. It’s the most pressing question of our time and we’d better start talking about it.
All the on line news sources usually so good in reporting have been absolutely silent as to the gestapo carryings on there in the states. It is as if everything had been laundered of that information. It is a most unsettling feeling; the world news hostage to CIA disinformation and deletion. Nothing passing the US borders unless allowed by the MSM. Only the net has leaked the news, in hardly a sufficient volume. Expect to be restricted in the future. Try to find mention on BBC, The Guardian, The Independent, Timesonline, etc.