So with that in mind, let's explore why we, The Left, "hate" Sarah Palin. Because, you see, we do. I myself had no idea I had anything against her personally. I thought the fact that she lied flat-out in her Teh Awesomes speech about the Bridge to Nowhere made her look like, uh, a liar, a class of person whom I tend not to particularly admire. I also am not pleased about her ridiculous global warming position, and yeah, her position on gay marriage makes her look like a bigot. A foreign policy that is more pragmatic and less messianic and ill-informed might also be nice to see, given how unhappily the last eight years have gone, foreign policy-wise.
But apparently nooooo, is deeper and darker than that. Here. Did you know we hate babies with Down's Syndrome? Trig Palin’s Down’s Syndrome is a challenge to their ideas about what represents worthwhile life.
The fact that this Down’s baby was carried to term and not aborted is statement that his life has the same value as all life.
Now that he's born, yes, his life is worth the same as anyone else's. Or, the same moment his mother chose to bring him to term, to be more precise. Frankly I don't like judging any woman out in that position: that's not in my pay grade, to coin a term. But as for the accusation that The Left hates kids with Down's Syndrome -- with backup in the form of a link to Ruth Marcus of the WaPo (!) -- and take it to Michael Berube. Moving on:
Palin’s family is a double-rebuke to the culture of abortion. First, there’s Palin’s decision not to kill Trig because he has Trisomy 21. Then there is seventeen-year-old Bristol Palin’s decision to not to kill her baby.
Um. What...? She had a "decision." We're "pro-choice." This is another way of saying we are "pro-decision," because "decision" and "choice" are what we on The Left call "synonyms."
Contrast this with Barack Obama’s statement that he would keep abortion legal so that if one of his daughters were to “make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.” This statement is freighted with meaning
It's also freighted with a wingnut either lying about or being ignorant of the context of Obama's remark. Neither option tends to make me more sympathetic to the finger-wagging moralizing that follows.
Then there are Palin’s religious views. She is a lifelong Christian who belongs to an evangelical church. No further explanations should be needed about the provocations which emanate there from.
She is against full equality for homosexuals and against choice on religious grounds. I am for these things on ideological grounds. Egad. But here's where it gets fun:
Finally, there’s the fertility. The Palin family’s five children would have been unexceptional forty years ago, but today constitute something of a fertility freak show. They’re the type of people for whom the epithet “breeder” was invented....
Why the worry about this? First, there’s the fact that few of Palin’s tormenters can understand the fact of her large, traditional family. That is certainly not the way in which they have structured their lives.
My wife & I have 4 kids. I admit it. Somehow, I don't think anyone here at FDL thinks any the less of me for this admission. Frankly, I've been a liberal for a while, and I pay attention to a lot of what liberals say, and I really do have yet to hear anyone say anything at all about families with lots of kids (within reason, of course).
For months, Greater Wingnuttia has been whining that any criticism of Obama is met with cries of "racism." Even the racist stuff! And now we discover that The Left "hates" Sarah Palin because she has babies and God, and we shouldn't criticize her when it comes to either, and who cares whether or not she has it coming. Huh.
Well, I'm not buying it, even if the very liberal partisan Democrat New York Times is.
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Aloha, Thers!
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Evening, Thers, CT
“Conservatives” like nothing better than to bask in a fond self-image of themselves as Distinguished Intellectuals,
wow - my first LOL, and only half-way through the first sentence.
This may be a new record. I’ll have the staff get back to you….
Did you see how hard Samantha Bee (of The Daily Show) had to work to get the republicans to say “choice” at the FNC (Fascist Nativist Conglomeration) in St. Paul?
It was like watching Fonzie say the word “wrong”.
I actually thought that was a favorite wingnut meme. “The Muslims are going to breed us out of existence” “The welfare queens with their dozen kids” etc. etc.
I have just never seen liberals make equivalent statements…
Sarah Palin is a noted Intellectual
In their bullshit bestiaries “The Left” alternatively appears as gangs of fascists, or communists (or both!); latte-sipping elitists or 40s-swilling homeboys; radical homosexual-agenda pushers or fifth-column Islamofascists. Why, we’re dangerous, unpatriotic kooks
Can I apply for membership in more than one group, or is that just too much?
Here’s the Samantha Bee video…
I hates hateful haters!
And Rose Kennedy (D) and Ethel and Robert Kennedy (D) had how many? Sarah may be in league with Planned Parenthood.
Is it the silly season yet?
I’m going for the “unpatriotic kooks” since I read the constitution and served in the Armed Forces in my misspent youth. (If I only have to choose one group)
Evening all.
Stupid SEC refs.
I personally am opting for “all of the above.” 8-)
“Then there is seventeen-year-old Bristol Palin’s decision to not to kill her baby.”
And she, and her parents, made a decision not to have birth control, and have a baby.
Thank you so much…this is great. I’m sending this column far and wide.
hey thers
Uh oh, what game are ya watching, Thers?
But, but, but…I thought mama and daddy were adamantly anti-abortion. Sort of leaves only one alternative doesn’t it? Not much of a choice if you ask me or is it that “choice” is OK in chez Palin, but not for the rest of us irresponsible and wanton curs?
they had a choice - and she wants to deny us the right to make our own choices for ourselves
IOKIYAR
But the bottom line is Ms Sarah is on the VP slot. Very well-positioned to be Pres. if McSame shows much more dementia/PTSD. That is not a laughing matter, and it is the most important fact in the conversation. That should keep me awake.
That will be a video classic!
gah. I am so effin sick of wingnut crappola n lies. gak. *spits*
Well, at least the father of the baby is going to marry her. I sure he had the choice too.
Yeah, marry her or eat that shotgun.
Good point. Why’s it bad to have lots of babies if you’re African-American or Muslim?
And it isn’t if you’re self-described “Valley Trash” from Alaska?
One of these things is not like the other….hmmm.
Well, duh. Dr. Tom Coburn, US Senate says that Condoms are Unreliable. Therefore, why bother?
Bristol Palin was doomed before she spread her legs… no doubt about it. The same is true for how many more teenagers and others with the 12th Century worldviews of the “Distinguished Intellectuals” of the allegedly “21st Century old white guys” of the republican party?
Good evening Thers, Howdy firepups.
So glad I am not alone in my hating. Who do I hate tomorrow again? Can’t find the memo.
‘Canes - Gators. Horrible horrible call, changes whole game. Hate seeing that.
Breeder!
If Sarah doesn’t believe in birth control she may have a couple more little Palins before she retires her uterus.
But, remember…calling someone a ‘liar’ when they are lying(or, if you prefer, telling ‘an untruth’) is a hateful thing, right? Not like we haven’t been listening to “Liars Lying 24/7″ for the past 8 years or anything? How is saying, “That’s not true” somehow better or nicer or less hateful than saying, “You’re lying” or “You are a liar”? How can manipulating people and the congress into getting us into multiple, simultaneous wars by lying NOT be hateful?
A Formal wedding will be had.
White Shotguns at the trailer park.
“So Sambo beat the bitch!”
–Sara Palin, who doesn’t hate people like lefties do
I resemble that remark, though not as prolifically as Thers.
Remember, it’s not the age..it’s the mileage.
I am a breeder!
These people live in an odd world. Liberals don’t like children…?
I got home from the Sat protest to catch the last 6 minutes on the radio. Go Gators.
Hi Thers.
Don’t you just love it when the choice is so easy to make?
Apocryphal at best, so far. Not sure if I hope it’s true… But vastly short on proof that this was said by She That Shooteth Moose.
Apparently she does believe in birth control (I have seen a couple of stories on this), but not in abortion. As to retiring the uterus, at 44 its sell by date is just about up already. (Average fertile period for women is 15-45 though that may be increasing).
For supper or as a snack?
Oh boo. My ‘Canes D had them handled until that call.
My guess is that she has already re-set her odometer.
Not the way Mark Foley likes children.
thank you for putting that into quotes so the pups don’t think that is your perspective.
tis a very sensitive term
It is so uncivil to call someone a liar. Much better don’t you know just to overlook the whole thing. If you must make a point of it, better to say they merely “misspoke,” don’t cha know.
I’m located in the wrong part of the country to see the game…! I didn’t like the drubbing my Warriors got last week from the Gators…!
hee hee.
Yum, Christian babies in a fricasee!
Unfortunately for poor little Trig(onometric function), she did not reset the odometer on her eggs, which are way behind the sell by date.
First, there’s Palin’s decision not to kill Trig because he has Trisomy 21.
Wonder what her position is on the death penalty? Or more specifically, on Atkins v. Virginia, where the U.S. Supreme Court decided that “retarded” (Court’s language, not mine) persons may not constitutionally be executed? (Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas dissenting).
Aren’t the wingnuts still pissed about that one?
I like my child. And I even like my grandchildren (especially since I can send them home when they become pains in the ass).
DAD: The mill’s closed! There’s no more work. We’re destitute.
CHILDREN: [talking]
DAD: Come in, my little loves. I’ve got no option but to sell you all for scientific experiments.
CHILDREN: [whining]
DAD: No, no. That’s the way it is, my loves. Blame the Catholic church for not letting me wear one of those little rubber things. Oh, they’ve done some wonderful things in their time. They preserved the might and majesty, the mystery of the Church of Rome, and the sanctity of the sacraments, the indivisible oneness of the Trinity, but if they’d let me wear one of those little rubber things on the end of my cock, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are now.
BOY: Couldn’t Mummy have worn some sort of pessary?
DAD: Not if we’re going to remain members of the fastest growing religion in the world, my boy.
DAD: Oh, bloody hell.
[fwump]
BABY: [crying]
MUM: Ohh, get that, would you, Deirdre?
DIERDRE: All right, Mum.
BABY: [crying]
For all intents and purposes I missed the whole thing. At least I’ll have the Gators to wean me off baseball but I’ll be in withdrawal between the title game and opening day.
Let me see if I have this right, fundie social conservatives practice abstinence until one of them becomes pregnant, then they have a shotgun wedding and from that moment on screw their brains out, which either suggests ignorance of the mechanics of sex (possible since they also abstain from sex-ed), or abnormal physiology in regard to the location of their brains. In any event they continue to abstain from contraception and choice. Factor in their tendency to couple with a close relative and it is easy to understand how they could become logic-impaired.
Fear not. I’m sure Bristol didn’t enjoy it.
Well she is certainly pro-blowing the shit out of little brown children in the Middle East. Like most Rethugs, she is only pro-life until you actually have one. Then you are on your own and fair game.
silly: it’s Ok to kill them after they’ve
(thwump) hit the floorbeen bornthat’show conservatives show their love for creation: when they’re not paving, drilling, poisoning, or roasting it
Makes me want to buy an “I’m A Hippie” t-shirt. Or DFH, either way.
If Sarah doesn’t believe in birth control she may have a couple more little Palins before she retires her uterus.
Let’s just hope that she doesn’t think, since she doesn’t know for sure, that *one* of the V.P.’s duties is to
be ofservice the president?Has that report been verified? That’s about the most despicable thing I’ve heard in a very long time. That’s right out of the old south.
that report has not be verified. anonymously sourced to the waitress who claims to have heard it in an article filled with anonymous sources who were ‘too scared to disclose their names’
eeeeeewwwwwwww
Finally! Someone who understands the rural definition of the verb ’service’. Bravo.
EPued:
Will be back after!!
Liberals don’t like babies…… hmmmm I have three kids, one biological son and two adopted from Korea. I also was a foster mother, some for very short time but 6 teenagers stayed longer than a year and one for nearly 2.
My own son was ADD & dyslexia and the two adopted children had their own learning disabilities. Foster kids some with their lovely issues…… David…. who lived the longest with me…. his biological mother would deny him food…. telling him that she did didn’t buy it with the child support…… and she was such a good christian…..
But then I might have been a community organizer….. helping a Hispanic family get settled who had been homeless living in their car for 5 years …
Ya liberals don’t care…… they don’t volunteer with the Red Cross or Habitat for Humanity or a thousand other charities…. Fork these people are NUTS….
I didn’t pop out new kids, I tried to help the kids that were already here…. is that wrong?
My very Leftist 18 year old stepdaughter has not made me a grandpa yet. Nor do I own a shotgun.
Weird!
poor goodling - she was so disappointed
It is so uncivil to call someone a liar. Much better don’t you know just to overlook the whole thing. If you must make a point of it, better to say they merely “misspoke,” don’t cha know.
Luckily, Rachel and KO seemed to have missed that memo….
Before leaving for the grill, Neuro I dugg you Digg(:>))
Been reading that MO all over different articles & blogs….. the boys from Jersey don’t keep as tight an organization than what seems to be going on in Alaska….
That’s the one I saw. Without a good verification it isn’t worth squat.
Doesn’t mean I won’t use it against her, though. If Karl can do it, why can’t I. *g*
See that’s the thing that bugs me about the “pro-lifers”. They act as if everyone who is pro-choice thinks every pregnancy should be aborted. As if we’re going to drag pregnant women out of their homes and haul them away “to kill the baby”.
What total rot. What we’re saying is that the decision should be up to each woman and her doctor. Nobody condemned Palin for having her baby, and nobody condemns Bristol for carrying hers. Although it’s clear that she didn’t practice the abstinence her mother preaches. Does anybody tell these kids about STDs?
I think we can assume that the “collateral damage” resulting from Ms Palin’s (Jesus-approved) preemptive wars has included many mothers and children, both born and unborn.
Yes, Katy..you have grasped the essentials: They only ‘count’ if they are fruit of your womb.
Yes, I think Rachel gave a very good concise lesson on “liars lying’ the other night. Set me right up, that did.
Good point. It would be great for America to have a pregnant Vice President with 6 kids. One in Iraq, one with a baby the Vice President would help out, two others under the age of 15, and a Downs Syndrome baby. What could be easier?
Funny that. My son, the product of a godless hippie unnatural single (male) parent upbringing managed not to have any kids until after he had been married a decent interval.
i prefer to not think of myself as being a low crawling yellow bellied boot licker lying snake with a brown nose
crap.. pressed submit before i added in the *g*
Ouch. Point taken.
Or worse, similar in any way to Karl Rove.
That’s just it…. those are my babies…. all of them….. Fork them all… see what I get for hanging out with Suzanne….. my language has gone to hell….
sorry for the ouch.. see my 81
fork - i’m so forking sorry doodette
That’s not some weird reference to the Mittsters Magic Undies is it? LOL!!!
I also blame it on Elmore….. boy do TeeVee guys have colorful language *g*
By any chance is womb fruit a dietary staple of the wombat?
OK, dat’s better. The Queen of Mean can call me all the names she wants to.
Sticks and stones… Nyyaaahhhh Nyyaaahhhh
It only counts if they are unborn in the Rethug theology.
Not at all. I have great respect for your work with foster kids. You done good!
Heh, that reminds me of all the snide remarks my wife heard from her friends about why we’d got married… Must’ve been a long pregnancy since it was almost 2 yrs afterwards she gave birth to my daughter…!
Palin’s mom, however, has given strong presumptive reason to question her decision
Yes, and they’re now trying to convince us that Sarah is pro-condom and thus has Different Views from McCain. (Per the LA Times, this morning.)
I’m not buying whatever they’re using, it clearly fries brains.
Great Scott!
Do you mean that being a fundie may not be a good predictor of whether or not your children will or will not engage in activities that fundies claim to believe are totally damning?
Freakshow!
Would that be the Rethug theology being practiced by all the undead I saw at the FNC this week?
heh..no, I was trying to differentiate..as in YOUR womb vs. someone else’s womb.
True comparing Rove to slime mold or botulinum bacterium would be an insult to unicellular organisms.
When Rove looks up, he sees the floor. But just barely.
It should keep *anyone* (with two brain cells to rub together) wide awake ’til November. :-(
Protists protest!
Lower than whale shit.
i was named for my mother’s aunt sue - who went around telling everyone my mom had to marry that sailor. they were married january 53 and i was the firstborn in october 54. my mom wanted to make sure her aunt sue knew when my birthday was (wicked grin)
He has to look up to look down that Rovian POS