Rare is the incredibly memorable nomination acceptance speech. Usually, it's the vibe we remember. Obama's speech was hard-hitting, substantive and prosaic, but years from now no one will remember its verbiage, they'll remember how it felt. Love it or loathe it (and count me in for the latter) Palin was such a completely blank slate her more than competent delivery of a rather generic attack speech will be remembered as better than it actually was.
But while the words of a nomination acceptance speech are rarely long-remembered, they are almost always "good" speeches, among the best the candidate has ever delivered. This is usually true even of rather poor public speakers as candidates. Gerald Ford, Bush Sr., Walter Mondale, John Kerry, even Doofus Tiberius Boosh all gave speeches that were considered surprisingly good upon review by the pundits in the immediate afterglow. It always helps a speech to be delivered to a throng of cheering people willing to act like they adore the speaker for a half-hour at least.
It also helps to have a rather low-bar, and Lime-Green Jello & Cottage Cheese McCain's bar is pretty much buried underground already.
So I say with some incredulity, how could his speech -- which he had MONTHS to work on and was written especially for him (as opposed to Palin's being adapted for her) SUCK. SO. VERY. MUCH?!
Only a few themes:
Actual quote, "I'm not running for president because I think I'm blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save our country in its hour of need." Seriously, you're going to try to pull this one off at your own faux coronation? Riiiiight.
Oh, and who doesn't love this line?
I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone else's. I loved it not just for the many comforts of life here. I loved it for its decency; for its faith in the wisdom, justice and goodness of its people. I loved it because it was not just a place, but an idea, a cause worth fighting for. I was never the same again. I wasn't my own man anymore. I was my country's.
Other than the first time he used it on the original Mrs. McCain, of course. But you have to admit, it's the most patriotic version of "I've found myself a young beer heiress" you ever heard.
"Please allow me to be the candidate of change, by supporting every GOP platform plank of the last several elections" -- okaaaaaaaaaaaay.
And, of course, it's always a good idea for a person that isn't a dynamic speaker to have a speech that goes on way too long.
The Horror, The Horror!
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“My opponent is arrogant…but I simply deserve your vote because I was so friggin’ awesome in the sixties, if I don’t say so myself…and I do.” — Seriously, your going to try to pull this one off at your own faux coronation? Riiiiight.
“My opponent is
arrogantUppity!fixed it:)
MCCain wants to be the candidate of Change I wonder how long before McCain says that he wants to be Uppity too?
McCain will do anything to win and if Obama is wining and everybody calls him Uppity.
Well McCain hugged Bush because he thought it would help him win.
Three very strong take-downs of McCain, Palin, and Repubs in Friday’s papers:
Dionne - Elegy for a Maverick
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....on/columns
Krugman - The Politics of Resentment
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09.....38;emc=rss
NY Times editorial - “..McCain allowed the practitioners of the politics of fear and division to run the show.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09.....38;emc=rss
This comment from 4 Sept, 2:16 am (edits in italic)
Does that read better now?
Thanks for the post, Attaturk.
I have tried to watch the republics convention. Honest. Each night my firm commitment lasted about a minute and a half. The ugly truth is it made me physically ill. It has been obvious for a very long time that McShitforbrains (now with baggage) does not give a fuck about the issues that adversely effect our lives. And he is a liar.
His puppet masters actually have an alleged health care plan that would tax, as income, the contribution my employer makes for my health insurance. How is that not raising taxes. For the small corporation I work for that would spell an end to our company paid health insurance. Why you ask? Because employers pay a matching amount on what they withhold. Not just an increase on my taxes but an increase on the employers taxes as well. The claim is the free market and a $2500 a year credit will offset the tax increase. The reality is starkly, and might I say, devastatingly different. Between my employer and I, we pay over $12,000 a year for my family of 3 to have medical insurance. McShitforbrains with baggage wants to do away that and give me a $2500 tax credit. Second grade math skills are all that is required to figure out we all get screwed. Fuck me all the way to tears and poverty. That is the republican way.
Oh, and by the way, as Cbl says Jesus was a community organizer.
Sorry for the rant. Back to the lurking place now.
Shorter John McSaim: “I’m a uniter, not a divider. And by the way, POW!”
This is OT, but I am having long delays in trying to get onto FDL during the day. I am having no difficulty in the late night (it is 2am and no problem getting on), but any other time can be 5 min. or not at all. I can get onto any other blog quickly during the day. Are the servers slow? Thanks for any input. AngryB
Good historyin’ from Juan Cole to get your day going:
Rambo and the Mean Girl
You know who they are …
Good morning Attaturk you deserve a bloody medal watching that crap from McPow. And that pikchur is grate.
“Mavrick” above, how embarrassing is the Repub base? Randi Rhodes mentioned a couple of other misspelled signs down at the RNC corral also. I wonder if anyone was capturing all those gems. I’d love to see a photo montage that I could send around to friends. My favorite from awhile ago was the “Moran” sign held proudly by a guy who looked the part.
I don’t think you’re right about the going broke part and I know you’re not about the “stupid” part. The Mavericks are descendents of early colonial settlers and were prominant in Texas history from the Texas Revolution until the death of liberal Democrat Maury Maverick in 2003, with his last newspaper column having been in opposition to the impending invasion of Iraq.
IMHO a convention speech should have exactly two objectives:
– to attract the votes of uncommitted voters
– to inspire the base to contribute money and effort (campaigning and GOTV).
This year in particular Republican speech writers don’t have much to work with, reality having refuted their favorite themes:
– deregulation has been a disaster to real estate, healthcare, airlines, job retention, retirement, etc., but they’re still pimping more deregulation.
– foreign wars have been huge failures and have devastated the economy, but they’re still pimping more wars.
– low taxes have led to an explosion in national debt and to deferred maintenance, which has led to collapsing infrastructure (e.g., bridges and levees), but they’ve been pimping lower taxes.
– draconian border enforcement has alienated the latino vote, but they’ve been pimping for more.
The only good news for Republican speech writers is that the Democrats have once again allowed the campaign to become a battle of personalities rather than issues, and Republican speech writers are particularly adept at defining their opponents’ thoughts, feelings, values, and allegiances. That’s how seven of the last ten presidential elections have been won by Republicans. (Glenzilla has a lot to say about these things.)
two reaspms;
1) his voice sounds as if he was castrated, without testicles or testosterone, probably his age has to do with this
2) it also sounds like he said it without soul, probably because he is left without a sole, he forfeit that in entirety when he allowed the president to torture…now his once apparent principles fall with each passing day
Good morning, pups. It’s Bobo and Krugman today. Bobo, still staring into the abyss, (I almost feel sorry for him, but not quite…) gives us “A Glimpse of the New.” I can’t even type that with a straight face… He says the central drama of the convention was the struggle by reform Republicans to break through the pull of old habits and create something new. To use the word “drama” about last night is enough to make a cat laugh. Mr. Krugman’s column is titled “The Resentment Strategy.” He says the G.O.P. is selling the politics of resentment; you’re supposed to vote Republican to stick it to an elite that thinks it’s better than you.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got banana pancakes this morning. In case you didn’t see it, here is Doghouse Riley’s dissection of Bobo’s column on the Palin pick. It’s a work of genius. Have a great day.
unbelievably
lame
stale
stupid
pathetic
Look, I’m a Democrat. But i’m also into politics andf have been watching conventions since I was a kid. First one I remember was Chicago ‘68 and through my young eyes it was “Wow! A riot!! Cool!” I watch conventions as a political junkie. I take off my Democrat hat and put on my disenterested observer hat. So please trust me, I’m being honest,. not partisan.
That was horrible. Just horrible. As Attaturk says, even lackluster public speakers are up to the task. This was a replay of the speeches by the cansidates he mentions: Tiberius Fucktardius, Tiberius Pater, also Dole. They’ve been giving this speech for 20 years: teachers unions=bad for kids; trial lawyers=just plain bad; Democrats=more taxes (even though the Republicans invariably raise them or drive us deeper into debt). Same ol’ same ol’. How the fuck can that have been about change when it’s the same old shit for an adoring crowd. And he still fucked it up. Forget the gold tie (terrible on TV); the green background (again) and all the rest. It was as Jane noted last night b-o-r-i-n-g. As I memntioned, politics abnd political speeches are of interest to me. I missed part of this one (although I’ve heard ot before, so i didn’t miss anything) because I went to the kitchen ……. to make coffee. No shit. I don’t often do that at 11 p.m. I also checked in here to note how unbelievably horrible the speech was (don’t know if that registered what with the problems lately here) My favorite part? When he turned to his side and told the ass kissers assembled to his right: “I know some of you are having trouble.” That was a line for the people at home, asshole! Look into the camera!!! Nobody in that arena was having trouble and nobody in that arena (inclusing McCain and Palin and everyone who spoke) gives a shit about people who are. Specifics? Proposals? None other than drill baby drill.
Wow. I’ve really run on. Must be Biden on the ticket.
Krugman:
I think this was posted last night, I’m not sure
apPalin’
Not done yet. Even worse than that speech is the way it is being praised by the pundit class. Unreal. All of them sound like they could be on FOX news (and I watched Fox for a few last night and I’m not exaggerating). The very same people speaker after speaker trashed. These are the same people McCain told to piss off because one of them asked Tucker Baby a simple question he couldn’t answer and because they have had the nerve to look into Palin far more thoroughly than he did.
Your link trumps the oral history I’ve received. I have read the same somewhere but cannot recall the source, it may have been an opinion someone held and wrote about. I prefer your version, thanks for the correction.
Didja guys see the item (at DKos, I think) that’s a newspaper article which summarizes money Wassala received from the state of Alaska and she wrote in the margin “FYI: This doesn’t include $1 million we got from the Feds” or something very close. Then she added “WE did well.” the money from the fed was criticized by McCain as wasteful.
1,755 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Beerfart Liberal:
“”Wow. I’ve really run on. Must be Biden on the ticket.”
Now, now, Citizen lager flatus…after a few more days of listenin’ ta McCrazy and Sarah Streetwalker, you will grow to LOVE hearin’ Biden run on and on ‘cuz at least he’ll be talkin’ about sumpthin that relates ta the reality of common folks’ experience.
As for watchin’ conventions, I remember watchin’ both the Democratic and Republican conventions in 1956 but I also remember my Dad takin me ta the polling place in 1952…guess ya ken call me a political junky too.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, AND REMEMBER THERE IS NO COMPROMISIN’ WITH FASCISTS OR FASCISM!!
http://www.dailykos.com/main/3
Link. there’s like 18 items on that page./ It’s a little more than halfway down: “Palin on Earmarks: ‘We Did Well!!!’ “
Yeah. My dad used to take me too. The 50’s conventions must have been interesting. I remember McGovern in teh early moerning. “Come home America.” Very good speech.
I run on because I didn’t get here last night except to drop one comment. Alot was pent up. I feel much better now.
Tom Ridge sums it up nicely! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6ZnHTWWErM
Krugman is undoubtedly correct when he asserts
The goopers have no conscience, they have no soul, they have no depth, they eschew honesty, eschew facts and regurgitate falsities until the lies become the mantra and take on the aura of truth by repetition. They have nothing to offer but anger, they have no positive vision of progress, they have no desire to educate the population, they have no desire to help those in need, they regard paying taxes as a penalty rather than as participation in the grand American dream of life, liberty and happiness. Of course they are angry, what they want is not what the majority in this Democracy want and they are pissed that we have a say.
That sounded like I was saying McGovern spoke at a 50’s convention. Obviously not. It was just on my mind as I thinkl back and try to remember a speech so piss poor.
Marion -
Did you read Judith Warner’s piece on palin’s selection (and reader comments)?
http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/
Please do when you have time; it’s wonderful!
According to TPM, the green lawn pic is of Walter Reed Middle School in North Hollywood. Apparently someone was tasked with putting up a pic of Walter Reed Medical Center and goofed.
Typical Gooper move.
Here’s the NYT editorial on McCain and the convention. I wonder if they’re still pleased with their endorsement of him for the primary?
Thanks! I had somehow missed that.
omg, rofl.
Did anyone monitor Obama’s visit to o’reilly last night? Reactions?
I didn’t mean to be nit-picky and wouldn’t normally have commented. However, I grew up in San Antonio in a very liberal family and the Mavericks were much admired New Deal liberals in a state full of “conservative Democrats” (now Republicans).
The snark I thought of was that most “mavericks” ended up branded by someone. In this case, it was the Bush/Rove Republican Party.
Ranst are fine. i think mine above was rantier. And completely understandable given that last night was the worst acceptance speech in anyone’s memory. And as A-turk say, they’re pretty hard to fuck up.
The health care plan? I almost fell out of my chair. The critism of Obama’s health care proposals? A total lie lifted straight from speeches of past elections.On e thiong Obama keeps proposing is “the same health care as I have.” And the same McCain has - which unless Cindy is paying out of pocket her very deep pocket - pays for McCain’s cancer related treatment and other maladies.
Stupid. Never, ever should have done it. Imediately after he got trashed. But Bill kept saying “I gave him his props. For being right about Iraq in the beginning. I gave him his props.” Bill can stay stuff like that. He’s eaten in Harlem and the people had manners.
who was the bitch commentator they had on after. the one who they put Ph.D. after her name on the graphics. Don’t know if any of you do it and apologies in advance but I always thought using that was a lame attempt at being uppity.
there are going to be 3 more parts to that interview. i see no upside for BO.
My friends…
Sometimes ALL THE SNARK in the WORLD cannot trump ONE picture
Did you notice in Cindy’s speech that she said her life was profoundly changed when she became a mom? Would that have been at birth or conception? If conception, how did she know? If life begins at conception, wouldn’t mom-hood begin there as well?
Did Sarah and Mr. Sarah name their each of their spawn as soon as the sperm and egg were united?
easy, we have some people here that put their credentials on their handle.
They have, nevertheless, won seven of the last ten presidential elections. If only the children of light were as clever as the children of darkness.
McCain would have us believe that he’s not him (ok, grammatically “he’s not he,” but when your staff cranks out signs like “Mavrick,” proper English is clearly not your priority).
Last night’s root-canal speech reminds me of the first green-screen nightmare: “That’s not change we can believe in … hee, hee, heee.”
Guess he was too busy vetting Gov. Palin to practice: “She works with her hands and knows/nose.”
Washington Journal (live)
Washington Journal
7:45-8:30 FRANKLIN FOER
New Republic
Editor
www.tnr.com
J.P. FREIRE American Spectator
Managing Editor
www.spectator.org
Topic: Guests will discuss and analyze Sen. McCain’s acceptance speech as well as their overall impressions of the Republican National Convention and how it compared to the Democratic National Convention.
8:30-9:30 JOHN MAGGS
National Journal
Staff Correspondent
www.nationaljournal.com
National Journal Series: www.nationaljournal.com/njmaga.....9_5784.php
John Maggs’ Article: www.nationaljournal.com/njmaga.....1_8999.php
Topic: Washington Journal, in conjunction with National Journal, continues its 10-part series, which will air Fridays at 8:30am looking at the Democratic & Republican presidential candidates and Campaign 2008 issues. In part three, we focus on Economy. Our guest will discus the candidates’ positions and records on President Bush’s tax cut, the federal budget as well as the housing and credit situation.
9:30-10:00 C-SPAN Classroom Hit/Newspaper Articles/Phones
half-your-age-plus-seven rule: A convenient rule to define the youngest that a romantic interest can be before the relationship is indecent.
Let’s see . . .41/2+7=27.5>24 therefore indecent.
I wonder how often they’ll actually campaign together.
really. There is a chance McCain can win all of the stattes generally considered “toss-ups”. Not a bad chance either. I plan on a late night 11/4
Attaturk,
Did Mc Cain mention ,that right before being shot down, weather he released his bomb load on men defending their country against corporate invaders,innocent women and children and babies?
Would this explain why there was an angry crowd to greet him?
Did he mention there was never a declaration of war against Vietnam so he violated his oath to defend and protect the constitution?
Does he have a fall back position other than mass murder when words fail him?
think they’d do it on TV? I guess the problem I really have is this…. look, if I worked hard to earn that degree, I may very well use it too. the problem I have is that on TV they often they trot out “expert” commentators and put up “Ph. D.” to show you the person is an expert. And then their Ph. D really bears no relation to the field in which they are being presented as an expert.
He may have said that while I was making coffee. I don’t think those were real big applause lines, though.
” would do it whenever it was to “their” benefit.
Exactly as expected. Totally dumbass “stupid” move!
Forcing myself to listen to scar; some mcsame mouthpiece on……..it’s sounding like there ain’t a bat’s prayer in hell they’re gonna let palin get anywhere near a reporter before the election (discounting faux and scar) and when anybody asks “Why not?” they’re gonna scream and whine “unfair press”.
‘Cuse me while I go hug the bowl. :-(
Per HuffPo:
Emphasis mine.
Slept thru’ mccain’s and I WILL NOT go anywhere near faux! I was asking because, thus far, there was a brief mention and few seconds of vid on scar; switching over to cnn to see what’s going on there.
Who could have known? Many of us last night heard about the “uppity” comment from Georgia Congressman Lynn Westmoreland. But McClatchy has more on it this morning:
Okay, raise your hand if you believe a Republican from Georgia wouldn’t know the racial connotation inherent in “uppity”.
Yep, just what I thought. I think the Congressman could use a few phone calls today. I do believe I’ll call a bit later, myself.
Washington office: Phone: 202-225-5901
Fax: 202-225-2515
exactly so.
He’s a stiff little runt, ain’t he?
I am trying to recall just where I came across that POV. I haven’t checked it out, but Charley Goodnight may have been the source but I’m not sure what book. My utmost apologies to the Maverick legacy for that disparagement. My remarks were aimed at the perceived public icon that the Maverick name has been bedecked with. The context of open range and NOT branding to protect one’s interest on that open range, becomes the height of unthinking foolishness, which is what I intended to brand McDull-u-be (w/ ties to Dubya). IIRC, San Antonio was a liberal stronghold in a conservative sea, or was in LBJ times. ;-)
Not to beat a dead horse but we have a great headliner here that uses their title in every post. Sometimes it’s relevant and sometimes it’s not. I would point out that the original use of “Doctor” did not apply to physicians but to clergy, lawyers and educators.
Wikipedia on Lynn Westmoreland:
And those are his good points!
OK. After raeding you’re responses and thinking about it, my original comment was wrong. So i guess I owe an apology to the well-educated people. They’re only uppity if they got a Ph.D from an Ivy league school. (/s).Where I come from they didn’t allow lawyers to use “doctor” for the longest time and still restrict it. Thanks for settinfg me stright. BHy the way, the woman was Mionica Crwoley. She has a PhD in International affairs from Columbia. last nights interview was about foreign policy so pointing out that she is a PhD is appropriate.
“Your” not “you’re”. And that’s just the first sentence. I’m not even gonna try to correct the rest. Spellin’ don’t count.
Aw shit, I was just musing on the topic. I had a lot of time to think about it while I was writing my dissertation. One thing I was determined to do was to write a document that the “research participants” could understand (meaning no bullshit jargon). This article “Dancing with Professors, the Trouble with Academic Prose” is really fun to read, especially the part comparing profs to the buzzards on the limb in Hud.
I once asked a German scientist whether to call him “Doctor” or “Professor.” He said that he prefers “Professor”: “‘Doctor’ means I have an education; ‘Professor’ means I have a job.”
I’m gonna drop this,. I think i’ve offended people for no reason. But that’s a good line.
My apologies if I insulted you.
No no no no, I think the whole deal is total bullshit! You are right on target!
Click on the title, the formatting is a little goofy but the article is great.
One thing that I think Obama is going to have to really knock down is this tax and spend Democrat issue with the uninformed.
I was flipping around my XM radio because I can’t stand Bill Press (he means well, but he is sort of like my 72-year old dad who plays Sting’s “Fields of Gold” for me because Sting was in the Police and I had Police albums while I was a teenager, but I digress), and I caught some of the local morning shows and a bunch of callers while saying the speech was boring, still said that the Democrats will “raise your taxes” and that we can therefore trust McCain and the GOP. With a lot of people running credit cards and home equity lines that are larger than what their houses are worth, etc., people don’t really seem to care or understand for that matter that we are running huge deficits. Those same deficits that are actually causing a lot of the inflation that is causing the pain. People cannot or will not make that connection.
Dick Cheney, sadly enough, is actually correct in stating that “deficits don’t matter” for the American public. Deficits absolutely should matter, but they really don’t.
In this country, people really believe the myth of rugged individualism and “personal responsibility” as long as it doesn’t apply to themselves. They believe that they will some day reach that $250,000 tax bracket or the multi-million dollar estate tax bracket without understanding the issues of probability.
I am therefore fearful of what is actually going on outside the informed atmosphere that we here in the blogosphere inhabit. We all jokingly watched the speech yesterday, and laughed along with Ian. [and got pretty drunk on that “my friends” drinking game….]
At the same time, a lot of people who watched it, who don’t bother to inform themselves, got the major network spin that it was such a wonderful, moving speech (I got 2 minutes of Anne Curry last night, for example, grrrrr)
The question that I have is: “how can we gap that bridge from the informed to the uninformed?” There is a very insipid message behind the “Community Organizer” smear, while McCain talks about “trust.” It is that he is saying that you should trust him and not said “community organizer,” who might be telling you that McCain talks a good game, but actually is full of shit.
One thing that I think Obama does very well which a lot of Democrats fail on is give a message of hope and not a message of “our country is really F’d up, because the GOP stinks.” I surf around a lot of the blogs, and while we do a good job of informing people about how screwed up the country and how really, really screwed up the GOP and the government they run is, we don’t do enough in stating in what about government or any other progressive cause, such as unions (as an aside this blog is the exception that proves the rule, I feel) are good things and things that are right about this country. Finally, that things in toto are much better now than they were in the 50s, that mythical period when Ozzie and Harriet had it great, but every single minority did not……
[stepping off soapbox]
Sorry, went a little long there…
Re Attaturk - “Actual quote, “I’m not running for president because I think I’m blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save our country in its hour of need.” Seriously, you’re going to try to pull this one off at your own faux coronation? Riiiiight.”
Isn’t it clear that this was a not so subtle dig at the thug attempt to characterize Obama this way??? Mean spirited.