Carl Bernstein said something extremely astute on CNN: if something were to happen to John McCain before the election, would Sarah Palin be the GOP Presidential nominee? Not likely. And that says an awful lot, now doesn’t it?
She’s good—she comes off as folksy, if a bit too sharp and zealous at times. (Tom Shales agrees.) People in WV are going to eat her up, though, as are some women who will like that she stood up after being knocked down for a week in the press, despite her savoring the more malicious lines a bit too much to keep the "victim" ruse going.
McCain’s judgment has been damaged. He’s pissed off the media, bullying them for finally doing their jobs instead of fetching his donuts, while he didn’t bother to do his own vetting job properly. Hypocrisy doesn’t wear well on McCain.
But Palin stood on both feet after a shitty week and came across as sassy. She came in with incredibly low expectations and, unlike Dan Quayle, she exceeded them by quite a bit. Don’t underestimate her.
That cheery hockey mom demeanor with the feisty, sharp stick the shiv in while looking like you are offering a second helping of meringue pie to the neighbors technique is the same kneecap with a smile demeanor that used to win jury trials for me. She’s a pro and she worked that crowd like one, especially playing to the cameras—her sportscaster experience was clearly a plus there.
Especially since most folks don’t bother listening to the text of the speech or fact checking it. They often decide based on how they feel within the first couple of minutes, and during that time they had her talking lovingly about her family, her faith and her hometown values. Which pretty much most of America can nod right along to, at least where I live. But will it wear as sincere or nasty, contrived artifice over the next few weeks?
It was well-planned by one of George Bush’s speechwriters (Matt Scully) who, according to uber-lobbyist and McCain campaign manager Rick Davis, originally wrote it for a male Veep; he softened it after the hasty Palin pick, although not much. Note there was no mention of reproductive choice — they clearly saw the Emily’s List numbers, too. (Although Obama managed to land a pretty good pre-emptive strike on that issue earlier.)
The supermarket tabloids are full of magazines touting her scandal issues this week. But it’s going to turn to sympathy covers by next week, unless there are more shoes yet to drop and she lands in overexposure central. But the lack of initially vetting her? Impulsive jumps from the gut? That lands on McCain.
Palin’s bit on lobbyists running from McCain is a good place to start the fact checking, considering how many ride around on his damn bus with him every day.
And Democrats? We need to be saying the words "same as George Bush and Dick Cheney" every chance we get, because they are running away from them like the plague. I think Jay Rosen is correct that the Palin pick was the opening salvo in a renewed GOP culture war. Odd that McCain is still desperately trying to shore up the GOP base.
The question is whether people in America will fall for the same tired routine — or whether they are fed up with crap that doesn’t help them fill their gas tanks or feed their kids before they run between jobs.
We can’t afford four more years of Republicans driving us into the ditch because they were too busy to watch the road while they were lining their pockets and throwing the constitution out the window. Joe Klein asks whether Americans will see this as a big election on tough issues facing their families, or a small election based on divisive quibbling. I think reactions to Palin’s speech are a bit of a Rohrschach on that. Thoughts?



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I’ll bet you wrote your own meringue tinged arguments… but
She borrowed a Bush speech writer…
to present a McCain speech…
when will we see her interviewed on her own, by real reporters?
She might come across as folksy but she wants to be a Cindy McCain. She certainly won’t be interested in the women-folk of West Virginia after the election unless the woman is the coal mine owner.
I didn’t see the speech. My stomach’s too week, plus I have a paper to deliver in 10 days in Palo Alto that is still being written. What I think about what I’ve read is this: she delivered a good speech for the immediate audience, but probably not for the one that counts, which is the audience that shifts the polls in the states that count. Christy says she’s a pro, but unless she’s a natural, it takes years of experience to succeed in the game at the level she’s now playing. Hard to see how a couple of years in podunk and a few months as governor puts her in that league, unless, as is possible, she’s a natural like Obama.
She has to face the press, and among that press are a lot of women who are asking themselves, ‘if her, why not me?’ I’m thinking especially of Cokie Roberts, whose blood must be curdling at the thought of whom she considers trailer trash being a heart beat and a half from the White House.
I thought Obama’s response in his press conference today was pitch perfect. Plus he gave a line to run with: ‘I’ve been called worse on the ball court.’ That rings with a lot of guys. He may get more truckdrivers’ votes than we think.
Courtesy of Mark Kleiman:
Why do John McCain and Sarah Palin hate Catholics?
when will we see her interviewed on her own, by real reporters?
Dunno, but I’m thinking that on that day some McLame staffer gets fired for incompetence.
Great line. Describes the pittbull w/lipstick performance to a T.
She’s avoiding the press like the plague for anything unscripted at the moment. At least, according to Nicole Wallace on MSNBC earlier. Palin won’t be doing any of the Sunday shows — so either she’s not ready for rime time without a teleprompter, or they don’t trust her not to show her true self in public.
Everything for the moment with her will be highly scripted.
I’d heard that the McCain campaign muzzled his fiesty mom this week — not allowing her to speak to the press without a minder. Looks like they’ll be doing the same with Palin — but likely not for the same reasons.
Palin gets people talking about Sex Ed in schools and Abstinence Ed, Birth Control, teen welfare moms (not a subject the bible belters want to bring up) and of course her towns meth problem.
http://www.juneauempire.com/st…..8002.shtml
Palin is from Alaska’s bible belt and meth belt.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/…..index.html
Teenage welfare Moms, Meth and bible belters a lack of real sex ed explains the Teen Moms, what explains the meth?
Palin changes the terrain to issues that I was worried that we were going to ignore this election.
Palin changes the terrain to areas where we hold the high ground.
Palin has done nothing on Meth I think Obama calling for the banning of the key ingredient in meth which is very complex to make and only made in a few places in the world would get us votes in Palin’s hometown.
If the bible belt meth connection holds we could take the bible belt from the GOP. Everybody with a close friend or relative on meth would be voting for us.
From CBS News:
Fake Soldiers Used In RNC Video
They don’t want to show dead soldiers.
She does have a bit of that Tonya Harding twinkle in her eye, doesn’t she? *g*
OT:
Protesters are being blocked or trapped on a bridge (in the middle of the bridge, nowhere to go but 30 feet down onto the interstate).
Apparently there was an ironic cheer when the mounted police on horses were replaced by police in black with body armor/riot gear, tear gas launchers. No reports on stun grenade and plastic bullets as killed the Red Sox fan in 2004, or the big sticks.
Are people seeing this?
http://www.thepresidentialcand…..kenny/741/
Oh, and folks, do take the time to read both the Joe Klein and the Jay Rosen links. Thought provoking stuff in both — since I don’t often get to say that about Joe Klein, I thought it was worth an extra mention.
Second time Ive heard the writers had to change from a male to a female speech. Now, how sexist is that? I know there’s the hockey mom line, but should there be an essential difference in what is important. Why am I thinking it must surely have been made more snide and sarcastic? Sexist? View of women? Gag.
Palin and McPalin are gong fundie but they will be working for the corporate fat cats:
David Horsey Cartoon hits the nail on the head
OT:
Protesters are being blocked or trapped on a bridge (in the middle of the bridge, nowhere to go but 30 feet down onto the interstate).
Apparently there was an ironic cheer when the mounted police on horses were replaced by police in black with body armor/riot gear, tear gas launchers. No reports on stun grenade and plastic bullets as killed the Red Sox fan in 2004, or the big sticks.
CNN “Standoff”. They showed the shot again and it appears there is no blocking on one side of the bridge, not sure. IN any case its a moderatly busy area. If pattern holds they will go in with tear gas and if that happens someone is falling off a bridge on camera.
The CNN reporter said he was on the bridge so hopefuilly this is the one the powers that be planned to have on TV so I hope peace will out.
OOT: Dow close to going under 11K.
Thank you for this, Christy. I’ve been depressed all day with a BILE hangover. Remind me not to watch it tonight?
So when is the press going to take the gloves off if she won’t answer questions at press conferences?
The tone was wrong. Many of us were unfamiliar with her as she beamed into our homes late last night. It was an introductory speech.
Most of us at one time or another have entered a new school, moved to a new neighborhood or taken a new job. When so doing, if you care about ultimately being well received, you display humility and good humor. Talking smack usually isn’t a newbies ticket in.
Besides talking smack with virtually no standing for doing so, the speech was dangerously lacking in lift. She failed miserably, and to some extent inexcusably, to call on us to listen for the stirring of the wings of the angels of our better nature.
I agree with Christy do not underestimate her I think she wants to play at weakness invite an attack and collect sympathy from her base to rile them up on election day.
Which means McCain is not doing a thing so far to win moderate votes.
McCain is not playing to win he is trying to defend the GOP is the south and west to keep the Senate filibuster.
How long before the MSM figures out that rallying the 30%ers and ignoring the moderates who I do not think exist this election myself does not give McCain a chance at winning no matter how you juggle the electoral math.
McCain needs Obama to screw up big, HUGE in order to win.
What happened to the Digg button?
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BREAKING NEWS: John McCain and Sarah Palin are Mavericks™
Yep, I did not watch last night, and certainly not tonight. Get some hours back.
OT (?) – CBS claims Obama’s lead has “evaporated” – now 42-42.
Don’t worry about the OT I don’t got tv I hope everyone will be alright.
but unless she’s a natural, it takes years of experience to succeed in the game at the level she’s now playing. Hard to see how a couple of years in podunk and a few months as governor puts her in that league, unless, as is possible, she’s a natural like Obama.
Discount the skills/tactics/stage presence/speech making learned as a state-level beauty contestant at your peril.
That sentence is. not. snark.
They directly translate to the performance you saw her give last night. Appearance is everything and those who participate in the pageant world learn to work it.
So far the newsstands I pass have Obama and Democrats on the covers. I can’t wait to see a Rethuglican on that cover. Didn’t see Palin’s speech because I got really really ill after the first few minutes of the convention. I had to listen to someone tell me today that Ghouliani’s speech was really great. I told that person not to get to excited, because all Republikan speeches need to be seen side by side with a fact check.
I am not getting depressed yet.
Hello Christy,
I forced myself to watch, hoping to catch a glimmer of vision of how we’re going to right the ship, the great white hope but she ran out of time before she got to that part.
Maybe after the POW story John will cover the vision thing George senior warned him about.
When I got done watching the moose gutter rant I felt the need to take a shower, quite frankly.
Good piece on CBS…Repubs probably don’t know much about Community Organizers…from the scene eache worth abut 1/2 million dollars. Why would they need help?
I’m glad that some outlets are starting to fact check her speech instead of being dazzled by her delivery.
I’d guess that Palin will do the scripted stuff that is so boring when McCain does it, and McCain will do the off-the-cuff stuff that he’s good at.
Who will argue that Palin isn’t qualified to be vice-president? You know what the response will be, don’t you?
The worst part of her speech, in terms of delivery, was when she had to start naming middle and south american countries. What does that tell you?
The failure to appeal to the better angels of our natures was the big gaping hole in the speech — absolutely. And why I’m not certain it’s going to wear well over time, especially if she keeps this tone going in subsequent speeches and refuses to do unscripted interviews or town halls.
This morning dj in Philly is all over himself about how sexy she is. He’s been going on about this sexually fantasy about her being the quiet librarian who lets down her hair…
I no longer listen to him.
In some of the photos I’ve seen with her and McCan’t, she makes him look so much older, if that’s possible.
I wouldn’t underestimate her either. If she continues to duck the press, it will play well with those who like portray themselves as victims.
The real victims of the Republican policies however will see right through the crap, and it’s getting them to the polls on election day is the way to demonstrate true power.
so besides McCrazy, who are the other speakers that I’m not gonna watch tonight?
jacqrat @18 – No *real* hangover here, but it feels a lot like one. Watching so many R’s in one place at the same time, with so much ignorance, hatred and brutality, all of which is merrily celebrated, both inside and out of the convention center, has indeed been ill-making.
But hey, the NFL kicks off tonight. *g*
Oh my — I thought Giuliani looked like a rabid dog with his teeth bared through most of the speech. It was red meat, and he was cackling at his own jokes. I had to mute it about 2/3 of the way through because he was creeping me out.
Obama has a great line from his reaction to Palin’s speech:
So, she’s so Mavericky they have to put a bit in her teeth?
Lol
Mad dog and Barracuda.
Okay trying to watch Palin on youtube, so far It looks like 3 minutes plus of pure adulation.
I was saying that to Mr. ReddHedd last night — that next to her, he looks more feeble somehow. No idea why that is, but I’ve been looking at way too many snapshots of him lately, and he was already looking rather wan…and the comparison amplifies it somehow when they are side by side. It’s weird.
Like I said, they started out with the nicey nicey bits.
Slept through it but the blogs give the impression she has, shall we say, some problems with pronunciation. If, and that’s a big IF, they ever let her out of her cage (isn’t that where you keep pit bulls?) there should be some fun with people and place names. Not to mention anything below that depth.
McCain needed Palin to bring in women and solidify the fundies. For now she has done the job with religious types but as far as I can see nothing with women who aren’t fundies.
I agree with the not ready for prime time part. She simply has no background on national issues and doesn’t know much more than a few of the winger slogans.
The Democratic Party Convention was mostly atmospherics but the Republican one has been a near perfect intellectual vacuum.
It really has been a bizarre thing to watch them give speech after speech which is all personal attacks and substance so miniscule you’d need tweezers to pick it up if you can even find it among the dreck.
Uh……… Christy,I don’t think the republics are aware that “better angels of our nature” exist. Sorta like unicorns, mythical creatures.
So far Palin’s going through ye old “they wrote him off, tzz! Boy were they wrong” then “moms, sons, daughters blah blah Track, two girls, three boys, buffy biff piper, plus our littlest one. Hee.” Not to mention every moment is punctuated by applause. All she does is mention “special needs,” and the crowds applauds like she just said something brilliant.
Christy, but I have seen some satirical movie and Palin sounds just like that actor. If only I could remember name of the movie.
Could people really fall for this? There is something very spinal tappish about this convention speech and rx.
Checking out the infamous Koch brothers might be one place to look. Sarah ‘the reformer’has at least a tough decision to make.Is she really a reformer? The refinery they have in Alaska is not profitable enough. http://www.newsminer.com/news/…..s/?opinion
The sexy part is what has been so amazing to me….she’s not all that pretty, really. But the response is like an Elvis siting. Beyond bizarre. She’s the “it” girl….whatever IT is.
That probably should be “sighting.”
The whole idea of Republicans running against Washington when they controlled the place for the last 8 years just goes to show they aren’t running on their record but from it.
Oh She says, “we don’t talk about people one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco.” Why did she pick San Francisco I wonder? Vilifying those city sophisticates who tolerate same-sex couples just a little, maybe?
Compared to the other women they showed in the hall last night she’s. . .Tracy Flick!
“Noone expects us to agree on everything,” Palin says. Like? Get out Hugh’s List.
Because that’s where Barak made the statement.
I find it interesting that McCain is still trying to shore up his base with the Palin pick. Only 28 percent of Americans call themselves Republican these days, and this is where Palin is most benefiting to McCain. The rest of Americans have merely watched a badly botched vetting process and a seemingly knee-jerk nomination of a hard right back bencher with bad luggage. They are trying to dismiss questions on her background and readiness as “picking on the chick.”
Hopes for a third term for Bush are pale and Palin more every day.
The Politics of Hope versus the Politics of Hate.
Which will Americans choose?
This time, my guess is the Politics of Hope.
Holy Crap. Palin’s talking about how she reformed Alaska was against entrenched interests, etc. etc. and put the gov. back into the hands of the people. (What about Silver, Ted Stevens and Team Abramoff?)
And put that luxury jet on e-bay. Did she put the personal chef on e-bay?
She vetoed wasteful spending nearly half-billion in vetoes. (Like on education?)
Never thought there was too much there — not to go on yet anyway. There might be. There’s good stuff for the truth squads on earmarks and bridges. and yes, her old city hall does look like a bait and tackle shop in south Louisiana as james Carville noted. What, in my opinion, has potential as an issue is how she is responding to the investigation. I saw it being kicked around yesterday that she is “claiming executive privilege” I don’t think she’s done exactly that. Yet. has she. if she ever does, it’s more of the same , ya know? Executive privilege. Just like Bush and Cheney and Rove. But even without an executive privilege claim this investigation, I think, should be watched. Not for the outcome which we may not know before the election, but how she acts, how she cooperates or fails to. Thank God we’re off the bullshit and can get to real issues. One good thing about the bullshit, lefty bloggers drove that story. Lefty bloggers can drive more stories. Good for Obama to concentrate on McCain. bad for Obama for going on O”Lieley.
Now weird: Shooter C. shown speaking from his trip. No wonder we do not see him much…he looks really old and also weak/pale. Does not look good at all.
And the follow up was that the jet left money.
I think that’s where Obamma made his “clinging to guns” dumb-ass remark. True. But shouldn’t have been said. But hey, in a campaign that lasts over 18 months everybody says things they shouldn’t. Shit happens. Point is, I think she was being factual for a change and didn’t just “pick” SF.
Palin: “We suspended the state fuel tax and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress” (Get out, Really?!?) “I told the congress thanks but no thanks (priggishly) on that Bridge to Nowhere. If our state wanted to build a bridge we’re going to build it ourselves”
Wait, I thought Sarah liked earmarks.
Only if your mute button is functioning. :-( Dial-up so can’t watch vids but saw a bit of one on the idjit box of someone who could be her double and who has the voice down pitch perfect. Dog, does the world really need *another* palin?
Lingle and Comstock going to talk on PBS about the speech…very down to earth person.
Not to worry, he has a staff of reanimatrons with him at every stop, two of whom are ex-NASCAR pit crew members.
So it’s true. But less face it. Her tone is all: San Francisco, librul elitists, not true-Murkans, vs. small town Murkah.
Well, I was not exactly worrying ;), but I am very comforted. Thanks.
She’s so amazing! She’s incredible! She’s so hot!
Media is drooling over her.
I am so sick of her already!
I am sick of people in this country being so fucking stupid!
On the brighter side, Obama raised millions last night.
I donated, and will do so again tonight.
The polls are still good, aren’t they?
Palin: “to confront the threat that Iran might seek to cut off a fifth of the world’s energy surplies, or that terraists might strike again at the *?!?#@ in Saudia Arabia, or that Venezuala might shut off its oil disk-overies and dil-liveries of that source. Amurkans we need to produce more of our own oil and gas. And . . . (applause). . . take it from a Gal who knows the North Slope of Alaska. We’ve.Got. Lot’s of Both.”
You got that third graders? I feel like I am supposed to react to this speech like, Oh really Mom and Dad?
Try these places for polls but considering that phone polls don’t get cellphone only people I wonder how good they are? http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ and http://www.mydd.com/
UUUUh I am sick. I think the Dems need to get sick on Sarah Palin. She’s got nails, teeth and claws as much as Ghouliani I suspect.
Made comment this a.m. that if they win/steal this election, the world can refer to this country as:
The United Stupid of America
agree.
Hahahaha!
Yes it is, also when you think of the country club set with their trophy wives, it’s a fitting picture. It’s very odd. I also saw a photo at the airport where he was hugging one of her kids, and I felt like it was grandpa hugging his granddaughter.
And then there are these from People where he looks very uncomfortable. The clenching of the fist in the first one says a lot to me.
If that happens we will either leave or get kicked out, America without an educated often artistic elite, well manufacturing jobs are how much of the economy?
How much of the economy do we have a major stake in?
Spain kicked out the Jews and Muslims long ago they cruised on their rep for awhile but still haven’t recovered.
Athens was never the same after the death of Socrates (killed for teaching the youth to disrespect the gods).
A civilization’s military power does not often long survive the death of its artistic soul.
Either the country fades or a new artistic soul is found and the military power fades.
There are exceptions but not many.
It might be in vain, but I have to laugh at the parts where there seems to be a blip between Palin’s brain and teleprompter, ex: Disk-kh-overies.
Anyone going to watch Obama on Bill O’Reilly?
“A bit sharp”? They want to make the election about character. Many of us saw her in her speech as thoroughly condescending and nasty, and that reflects on her character. Her character is no longer off limits, nor is McCain’s.
OT , sorry — anyone see cheney on BBC news tonight in Georgia? he looked so old i didnt’ recognize him. I mean really really old and thin. It was creepier than usual
I wanna see the media examine her husband’s involvement in things.
Something tells me there is an eminence grise that everyone is overlooking.
Big Question.
The one clear chance to see her unscripted will be in the debate with Joe Biden, which will be hosted by Gwen Iffel.
So how should Biden prepare for the event? How will Sarah prepare for Biden?
I dunno. What really scares me is that they WOULD run her as the Presidential candidate. Hell, maybe McCain will develop a sudden “health problem” & drop out.
The Big Money guys in the Republican party may be scared of Palin and her craziness, but the “masses” — those lunatics in the mega-churches — love her, and the media continues to treat her with the deference that Hillary supporters beat them into.
This situation really, really scares me, since the outcome has to factor in the dimness of the American electorate. I’m going to be giving to Obama as much as I can afford, but I’m quite frightened.
This concerns me too. Dems have been coming oh-so-close to taking Senate seats in AK, NC, MN. Now with Palin in the game, the Neanderthals will crawl out of their caves and knuckle-drag to the voting booth. [Why doesn’t voter id ever apply to them?]
Amen!