Comments on: Late Late Nite FDL: Get Behind The Mule http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:22:20 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: TheLurkingMod http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613623 TheLurkingMod Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:32:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613623 <p>Attaturk is upstairs!<br /><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/03/this-is-the-worst-amway-convention-ever/" rel="nofollow">This is the worst AMWAY Convention Ever!</a></p> Attaturk is upstairs!
This is the worst AMWAY Convention Ever!

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613622 bigbrother Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:29:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613622 <p>So Attaturk</p> So Attaturk

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613621 bigbrother Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:27:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613621 <p>OH Hope…”On the matter of the anarchists”.<br /> The peace deonstrations are not put on by Anarchists. Rather iI have spoken with demonstrators in many other marches (Seattle WTO, LA) that verify goon squads posing as demonstrators nave been sent to wreck the orderly demonstrations with violence.<br /> I my mind violence has no justification. The peace movement of the 60-70s had the same problem… opportunististic drug organizations exploited it to market drugs. They were not peace activists. And niether are the thugs that are destroying property. Ask Dr. Murphy who has been to many and seen these tactics.</p> OH Hope…”On the matter of the anarchists”.
The peace deonstrations are not put on by Anarchists. Rather iI have spoken with demonstrators in many other marches (Seattle WTO, LA) that verify goon squads posing as demonstrators nave been sent to wreck the orderly demonstrations with violence.
I my mind violence has no justification. The peace movement of the 60-70s had the same problem… opportunististic drug organizations exploited it to market drugs. They were not peace activists. And niether are the thugs that are destroying property. Ask Dr. Murphy who has been to many and seen these tactics.

]]> By: openhope http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613620 openhope Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:23:28 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613620 <p>Goodnight. Thank you, Suzanne, for stepping up to be heard this morning and tonight.</p> Goodnight. Thank you, Suzanne, for stepping up to be heard this morning and tonight.

]]> By: openhope http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613619 openhope Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:16:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613619 <p>I fear you’re right. It’s appalling the amount of silence on the police brutality at both conventions.<br /> But especially the RNC. Brutality in the streets, pink boas and partying in the convention.<br /> But worse, at the Dems Deal, no mention of overt police force? No outrage at the orchestrated violence against dissent.<br /> On the matter of the anarchists…several young people I’ve talked to reminded me that smashing the windows of a “corporate” entity is far less violent than what those same corporations inflict on local people in a global monopoly. And they’re right.</p> I fear you’re right. It’s appalling the amount of silence on the police brutality at both conventions.
But especially the RNC. Brutality in the streets, pink boas and partying in the convention.
But worse, at the Dems Deal, no mention of overt police force? No outrage at the orchestrated violence against dissent.
On the matter of the anarchists…several young people I’ve talked to reminded me that smashing the windows of a “corporate” entity is far less violent than what those same corporations inflict on local people in a global monopoly. And they’re right.

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613618 bigbrother Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:15:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613618 <p>The American culture has moved more to materialism. Consume, have, use and win. They are not taught that the constitution is necessary to have freedom. They see freedom as a good economy. They see failure as not achieving material goals. Ethics, morals and esoteric values are not part of what consumes their life and consciousness. They want the material dream. I think we are playing to an audience that is not listening.<br /> Patriotism or the lack of is defined as that that defends these values.<br /> ACLU is probably one of the most conservative organization attempting to save our democracy…ACLU is tarred as a pinko effort.<br /> The rule of law is a pain in the corporate ass.</p> The American culture has moved more to materialism. Consume, have, use and win. They are not taught that the constitution is necessary to have freedom. They see freedom as a good economy. They see failure as not achieving material goals. Ethics, morals and esoteric values are not part of what consumes their life and consciousness. They want the material dream. I think we are playing to an audience that is not listening.
Patriotism or the lack of is defined as that that defends these values.
ACLU is probably one of the most conservative organization attempting to save our democracy…ACLU is tarred as a pinko effort.
The rule of law is a pain in the corporate ass.

]]> By: openhope http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613616 openhope Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:03:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613616 <p>I have many dear family friends that are Republican. Many of my views on financial accountability could be labeled “old Republican”. Same with my esteem for the Constitution,and other aspects of our government. In the old days it never seemed so black and white.<br /> Hell, my father worked at Rand. Hans Spier, a director of Rand and a dear family friend used to tell my parents to go easy on me…”she’s finding her way”..<br /> However, I strongly believe that we need “socialized medicine” in the U.S. We need to keep local health care jobs safe and provide access to everyone. How else can we all be strong?</p> I have many dear family friends that are Republican. Many of my views on financial accountability could be labeled “old Republican”. Same with my esteem for the Constitution,and other aspects of our government. In the old days it never seemed so black and white.
Hell, my father worked at Rand. Hans Spier, a director of Rand and a dear family friend used to tell my parents to go easy on me…”she’s finding her way”..
However, I strongly believe that we need “socialized medicine” in the U.S. We need to keep local health care jobs safe and provide access to everyone. How else can we all be strong?

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613615 bigbrother Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:02:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613615 <p>Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson knew that without the power of thr press “The Fourth Estate” That was used so well in the Reformation there was no chance of change. The only change America will be allowed to hear is Obama’s message.<br /> Our view will not be aired period. So the buzz is interior. Not much on the encarcerations, police brutality and loss of rights in the “Liberal HAHA Media”.<br /> Strength in moral character will carry us as we have no choice but to stand up for our democracy.</p> Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson knew that without the power of thr press “The Fourth Estate” That was used so well in the Reformation there was no chance of change. The only change America will be allowed to hear is Obama’s message.
Our view will not be aired period. So the buzz is interior. Not much on the encarcerations, police brutality and loss of rights in the “Liberal HAHA Media”.
Strength in moral character will carry us as we have no choice but to stand up for our democracy.

]]> By: cleanth http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613614 cleanth Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:00:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613614 <blockquote><p>We are in a new era of McCarthyism.</p></blockquote> <p>So it seems to me, too. As Kirk Murphy might say: “May the goddess help us!”</p>

We are in a new era of McCarthyism.

So it seems to me, too. As Kirk Murphy might say: “May the goddess help us!”

]]> By: cleanth http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613613 cleanth Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:58:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/02/late-late-nite-fdl-get-behind-the-mule/#comment-1613613 <p>Alas, you have gone off to bed, but perhaps you will see this later today.</p> <p>Unless the seed falls to receptive ground, it will never germinate. A lot of this is beyond our control. But we can prepare the seedbad. Sometimes the really effective suasion is seen, after the conversion, to have been quite subtle, and the other party does the real work.</p> Alas, you have gone off to bed, but perhaps you will see this later today.

Unless the seed falls to receptive ground, it will never germinate. A lot of this is beyond our control. But we can prepare the seedbad. Sometimes the really effective suasion is seen, after the conversion, to have been quite subtle, and the other party does the real work.

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