That was two days ago. Since then, new details have come to light on entirely new topics not covered in my lengthy post. Just to keep us all current on why Sarah Palin is the wrong choice to be America’s vice-president, here’s what we know now that is new.
First, Sarah Palin was described as a member of the Alaska Independence Party, a secessionist group that promotes treason: the dissolution of the American government. Before her election as Wasilla’s mayor, she was characterized as a member of the group. As Governor, she recorded this message heralding the organization at its recent convention. Recall as you listen to this welcome message that this organization advocates that Alaska vote on whether to leave the United States of America, just as South Carolina did in the nineteenth century immediately prior to The War Between The States.
Second, Sarah Palin was a director, listed on federal filing forms, of Ted Stevens’ 527 organization, the shadowy group he used to accept and re-direct barely-legal bribes without revealing their source.
Palin’s name is listed on 2003 incorporation papers of the "Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.," a 527 group that could raise unlimited funds from corporate donors…. At the time Stevens revealed the existence of the 527 group — a type of independent political corporation named for its the section of the tax code — ethics experts questioned whether it was appropriate.
The Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call reported that several experts called the group an example of the fine legal line between a legal effort to conduct political activity and then-new prohibitions against raising unlimited soft-money.
Board members of Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service were legally allowed to raise as much money as they wanted from corporations or unions or unlimited donations from individuals — all of which would have been illegal for Stevens to do himself.
Third, despite the McCain campaign’s claims, there was no FBI background check on Sarah Palin.
The Washington Post reported Sunday, citing an interview with campaign manager Rick Davis, that the vetting process "included reviews of financial and other personal data, an FBI background check and considerable discussion among the handful of McCain advisers nvolved in the deliberations.
"In general, we do not do vetting for political campaigns except as it might regard investigations needed for security clearances," said John Miller, the chief FBI spokesperson.
The FBI did not participate in a vet, nor did it run a background check of Gov. Palin as part of the process.
Fourth, Karl Rove, with his ear ever tuned to a possible rogue elephant stampede, told the Maine RNC delegation Monday morning that Palin was a "risky choice."
He said Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) was a risky choice for vice president for the Republicans, but she will help McCain in certain geographic areas.
Fifth, Alaskans are challenging Sarah Palin’s claim to have said, "I told Congress thanks but no thanks to that bridge to nowhere."
But Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.
The Alaska governor campaigned in 2006 on a build-the-bridge platform, telling Ketchikan residents she felt their pain when politicians called them "nowhere." They’re still feeling pain today in Ketchikan, over Palin’s subsequent decision to use the bridge funds for other projects — and over the timing of her announcement, which they say came in a pre-dawn press release that seemed aimed at national news deadlines.
"I think that’s when the campaign for national office began," said Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein on Saturday.
Meanwhile, Weinstein noted, the state is continuing to build a road on Gravina Island to an empty beach where the bridge would have gone — because federal money for the access road, unlike the bridge money, would have otherwise been returned to the federal government.
Finally, there’s the other thing, which few members of the McCain campaign seem to have known about:
Sen. John McCain knew. A few members of his senior staff knew. Most members of his senior staff did not know. Palin’s spokesman in Alaska did not know. Palin’s campaign-appointed spokesman did not know. McCain staffers — at different levels of the campaign — are a bit stunned.
Honoring our Democratic nominee’s request:
"I hope I am as clear as I can be. So in case I am not, let me repeat, we don’t go after people’s families, we don’t get them involved in the politics. It is not appropriate and it is not relevant," Obama told reporters in Michigan.
"Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be, and if I ever thought it was somebody in the campaign that was involved in something like that they would be fired."
I won’t talk about that… but don’t you think it’s odd that few in the campaign knew? And doesn’t that speak to John McCain’s decision making, his insularity, his openness to sharing challenges widely with the people around him, his capability to strategize with a large group of advisers instead of a small, insulated group of yes-men and -women like we see in our current White House? Did John McCain know about the other items on this list, and did he discuss them widely?
Just how big is John McCain’s circle of advisers, that so few knew such a salient fact of life about Sarah Palin’s family? Did this circle know about the Alaska Independence Party? Did they know about the Ted Stevens 527? Did they know that Karl Rove thought Sarah Palin was a risky pick? Did they know there was no FBI background investigation?
And did they tell John McCain to go ahead and choose her anyway? Or did he, all maverickety, rebel against their advice and choose her despite it?
And don’t Americans deserve to know the answers to these questions?
UPDATE: Damn, this story is moving fast
ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP vice presidential candidate, has hired a private practice attorney to defend her in the investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner.
The Legislature is investigating whether Palin fired public safety commissioner Walt Monegan after he refused to fire a state trooper who had divorced Palin’s sister.
The governor’s decision to hire the attorney was disclosed by the Legislature’s investigating committee on Monday, not by Gov. Palin’s office. The committee released an e-mailed letter it had received from Palin’s new lawyer on Friday, the day McCain announced she would be his running mate.
UPDATE TWO: She just won’t sit still long enough to let me post this, will she? Someone else claims to have won the Miss Congeniality award Sarah Palin calls her own:
ALASKA PIPELINE: Amy Gwin, 43, of University City, grew up in Alaska and competed in the Miss Wasilla, Alaska, competition in 1984 against GOP vice presidential choice Sarah Palin. Gwin said Friday that she won the Miss Congeniality award in the competition, although Palin’s Wikipedia entry says she won the contest — and the Miss Congeniality award.
Note: The column from Deb Peterson of the St Louis Post-Dispatch, from which the quote in UPDATE TWO was taken on Monday, September 1, has been changed to eliminate the quote I used, with no indication as to why and when the modification was made. I have written to the columnist for an explanation and will post it here when I have it. Thanks to multiple readers for pointing this out in comments, and my apologies for the inaccuracy.
Note Two: St Louis Post-Dispatch columnist Deb Peterson emailed early Wednesday morning (9/3) with this:
gwin contacted me to clarify and correct what she said. there is a correction in today’s paper. i don’t know how the site administrator handles that online. sorry about that.
The correction appears in the deadtree version of the paper, although there’s been no update indicate the column was changed. Here’s the correction:
— In comments reported in Deb Peterson’s column Saturday, Amy Gwin, a classmate of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s at Wasilla High School, said she was incorrect in stating that the Miss Congeniality award in the Miss Wasilla competition in 1984 went to her and not to Palin. Gwin also said she did not mean that she thought Palin was shallow, but that she believes Palin’s political experience is shallow in comparison to that of Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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Hi Teddy! It’s like Casey Kasem-and the hits just keep on coming!
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I don’t watch the networks’ reality shows or Jerry Springer but the Palin crowd sounds like they would fit right in. Has anyone read any pithy international reaction or all the pundits from abroad still guffawing or paralyzed with fright?
Hi Teddy, did you see Nico Pitney and Sam Stein’s article at huffpo regarding Palin’s church? Unrelated, there are also reports that she hired a lobbyist who also worked for Jack Abramoff.
Hi Teddy…. going to vote….. AZ state primary today….. Voting for Dan Saban for Maricopa County Sheriff……… back to your regular programming…..
Just missed it. Palin sure is a bright shiny object. I guess distraction from the police riots should be welcomed.
Good grief, just heard on MSNBC that Bristol’s boyfriend being brought to the convention. The same one who said he didn’t want to be raisin’ no babies…. ahem…how many babies did you father, young man?
Maybe McCain just wants to meet a younger version of himself….
And the Rethugs said it was awful to make an issue of Bristol’s baby? Give me an effin’ break.
Alaaaaska…Alaaaaaska…God shed his grace on theeeeee…and crown..
What?
I read through the post kinda quickly…is that Abramoff connection in there too? That guy, Silver?
But she did win “Miss Barracuda”.
McCain’s Black Baby was an issue invented by Rove and Dubya (Republicans) in 2000.
Palestinian Attack In Israel Part of God’s Judgment, Said Recent Guest At Palin’s Church
He also said he’d kick your ass if you fuck with him! Yee haw.
Tweety still doesn’t know how to pronounce Palin. Called her Pawl in
This is an amazing story. Just in the car, I heard interviews from the convention about what a great pick she is, lives the Repub values, has brought excitement. Amazing also is how fast the Repub talking points got out that this woman has more executive experience, better qualifications than the combined Dem ticket. I think it has all given me a headache. Part of the coverage included that “we” Repubs. have not been excited, and now we are. Look what it took. Who woulda guessed?
This am, again in the car, the MOST snarky, disparaging Ingraham talking about the hypocrisy of the Demo. who thought they would support an activist woman, but, of course, not one who believes in life, blah, blah.
“And the Rethugs said it was awful to make an issue of Bristol’s baby? Give me an effin’ break.”
This news, if true, is horribly disgusting. Children having children is difficult enough, but adults manipulating children having children for personal and political power is…is…truly fucked up.
The Hockey Stick ain’t down with raisin’ no kids. He’s got a life to live. Fishin’, hockey, snowboarding, chillin’, and knocking up the gubner’s daughter.
Watch out, the hockey hooligan might kick your ass.
Is everyone ready with their rotten tomatoes for Holy Joe?
Save some for the Tennessee Hound Dog
Are the Clampets moving to Morgan Adams?
I’m guessing that Magna Cum Laude at Harvard and a constitutional scholar trumps “almost last in your class in Navy school”, as well as a degree in “journalism”; as far as qualifications for president of the USA.
Intelligence and Judgment. Let’s just start there.
MCain attack ad on Obama running on local Minneapolis teevee, Dem Senators featured in the ad include Byron Dorgan. Hey, Byron, how about releasing those Abramoff documents McCain locked up now??????????????????
This is truly the wingin’it convention…speakers being flip-flopped around, Thompson now keynoter, or is it L’il Joey Lie-Bee?, and Ghouliani switched to tomorrow…but that’s the way the ol’ hothead’s always liked it….
And have I mentioned, Joe Lieberman = Stella Goldschlag.
And don’t you just know they are going to have a wonderful marriage? s/
You better smile when you say that. . . elitist.
I’m nowhere near as smart and savvy as Digby, but I do try to put on my Digby hat from time to time, and I wonder if this pick of Palin, and the narrative that I’m seeing from the RNC coverage that “Palin’s Experience Beats Obama’s Experience” isn’t structured to “nancy boy” and feminize Obama.
You know, put him into competing with the bottom of the ticket instead of the top?
We have already seen the Rethugs trotting out “effete” and “snob” and “orange juice” and so forth.
Just a thought.
Those poor young people…how humiliating.
Republicans are trying to steer the narrative to look like criticism of Palin consists entirely of lefty attacks against her pregnant daughter. Her resume might be relatively short but it is RIFE with corruption. It is important that we keep working to get the true story out.
Heard Richard Viguerie (Godfather of the Conservative movement) on the radio today and he sounded absolutely esthatic on the Palin choice. He said the social conservatives are reinvigorated and are starting to flood the McSame campaign with money. The wingnuts are now in line and working and praying for the continued morphing of the U.S. into a theocracy. In the 17th century the Dutch kicked out religious bigots and extremists from their shores. Today, the Netherlands is a vibrant, diverse democracy with a far greater degree of social and economic equality than the U.S.. Maybe it’s time that the U.S. begin thinking about ridding our shores of these intolerant anti-democratic bigots and neo-fascists.
Hardball: Tom Delay supports Sarah Palin because “she has a Christian world view” and lots of other good reasons
And didja see her on Billo last night? Billo and she were just appalled that MoDo and Sally Quinn don’t support Palin. He called them “feminist icons”
Do they even read MoDo and Quinn? JEEBUS.
Shorter McSame: “No, no, no! The one I want has got to be a Cheerleader or a Miss Congeniality contestant!”
So…is this how McSame picks a wife or a Vice President?
Oh…both!
you bet!
she’s what the conservatives have been waiting for.
Now they’ve got her.
What’s next?
Some women Repubs….one from New Mexico looks like a zombie. They love this woman. We all have to balance. One from OK. touting all that executive experience.
The guy at http://mudflats.wordpress.com/ (the AK site) said his head is spinning, keeping up with all the scandals is like playing the video game Centipede.
If I were the Daughter I would tell Mommy Dearest to shut up. Shotgun weddings rarely make for happiness.
How the heck did redneck trailer trash get elected Governor in the first place!!!
The Last Word: She’s the Last Word. There is so much world that is foreign. She could be our President!!
Now the new description is that she has “wild power”….oy. I’ll bet those polar bears and wolves and elk and other bears…already figured that out…she’s got that killer instinct….ugh.
I’ve known a number of Pentecostals and I am inclined to say fanaticism is a defining characteristic. They are big on demonstrations of faith such as “speaking in tongues.” Very black and white perception of the world, people are either actively serving God or serving Satan. There is no middle ground.
Great points, thanks.
Lying about Miss Congeniality… that is just WRONG.
Repubs now spinning faster than Gustav ever did.
This is all a bad dream I’m gonna wake up any minute and it will be all over!!!
Let’s find them an island where they can either wait for the Rapture or create their new Eden (Hell). Democracy and zealots are mutually exclusive.
“Someone else claims to have won the Miss Congeniality award Sarah Palin calls her own”
I am sorry but this is the last straw!!!
I new some up there but living in Georgia for 25 years has opened my eyes.
. . . advocates that Alaska vote on whether to leave the United States of America, just as South Carolina did in the nineteenth century immediately prior to
The War Between The StatesThe War of Confederate Treason.I am not a big G. Ifill fan, but I do not know how she kept a straight face. Now Nancy Pfotenhauer…This is Jim Lehrer, Newshour. I never knew it to be a special kind of hell.
I will get so much time back this week not needing to watch the convention.
And also, speaking of hasty and misguided, don’t you think the trad media should pick up on the fact that the RNC is not being managed well? The didn’t handle Gustav, like, at all, yet allowed it’s mere happening to change their direction and theme.
The speaker listing has been all over the map and still isn’t quite nailed down.
By comparison, the DNC was a model of management, message management and production, where the RNC is in total disarray.
Just saying, who do you think can manage better?
The “War of Confederate Treason” just might have legs. Call it what it was.
Well one more
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..23264.html
Gwen Ifill has sold her soul. She considers herself one of the Village Elders. Just the conventional wisdom and the status quo.
Christian Tom Delay was the agent for the Christian Rock Band at the RNC, Hookers And Blow. By all accounts, the band was a crowd pleaser.
Good Pick Tom.
OT
approximate speaking times
9:45 – President Bush
10:10 – Fred Thompson
10:40 – Joe Lieberman
you forgot Shields and Brooks
I can’t believe I tuned my teeVee to that show one more time.
man was it lame!
This is the what they did with W who was a complete empty suit with no experience. This women is a total slacker but that doesn’t matter to R’s – realty and facts and truth don’t matter. They make it up top suit their bizarre world view.
Exactly. i think it’s unconscionable to display their embarrassment before the whole world. My opinion is that Sara should have withdrawn without saying a word about her daughter.
if the repugs will buy this load of bullshit .
I got a bridge they might be interested in!
cleanth (if you’re still about and apologies if that’s spelled incorrectly) -
Jumping in without reading post/comments thus far and someone may already have answered your question from downstairs. Per cnn a little while ago, Obama received secret briefings from the pentagon earlier today. This from the female who covers the P. She went on to say that the other three candidates would receive similar briefings. And……talked about how mccain, BO and Biden have top security clearances because of their committee activities BUT palin had NO such clearances but would be briefed anyway.
Whee! How’s that for national security?
sorry i just have to post this again. this is the killler for Palin if word gets around. the prospective daddys myspace page
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..23089.html
just aghast
I used to work for a company who hired a Pentecostal man for an upper management position. In no time, at least fifty percent of new hires were members of his church, distributed through every department. What had been a reasonably pleasant workplace quickly became oppressive. As you suggest, their version of Eden is Hell for everyone else.
I’m hearing from locals that the Xcl stadium has a ton of empty seats…..
GWB and his 8 minutes tonight while Darth on his way to Georgia (as near Russia) to stir it up. Slouching toward Jan. 20th.
OMG!! Boehner says GOP the party of reform – Govt should work for you!!
It is clear now what the Obama strategy is,
http://www.politico.com/news/s…..13084.html
Let Palin be Palin, go after McCain for his lack of judgment and poor decision making. Dangerous d4ecision-maiking actually, even I didn’t realize that McCain when faced with a safe choice or a risky choice, will go with the risky choice.
Just heard Mrs. Greenspan say from the floor about W not coming to St. Paul:
“they do have airplanes, he could have come.”
I almost choked on my dinner.
Don’t know if anyone else noticed. At the dem convention they began gavel to order, then invocation, then presenting of colors. The thugs did the colors with the invocation mixed in with it. Separation of church and state—dems, you bet, thugs—it’s all of a piece.
I tried watching but didn’t have enough barf bags stocked up….
Boehner told Pelosi, Reid, and Obama how to run the country or something when he handed over the gavel, and dang, they blew it!
and seats not at all filled. only floor!
did they edit that page? it had nothing of the quoted entries, above.
I heard that from the local media…. they are up in the sky boxes and showing views from there…… LOTS of empty seats……
Lets see….
Democrats packed them in clear to the cheap seats
Repugs ….. not so much
oops for the update 2 entries that it is
The News Hour has gotten pretty bad. On non-political issues they are still better than the networks but when covering politics, their obeisance to the Republican Party in a misguided attempt to appear ‘fair and balanced’ makes it impossible for them to do the kind of hard-hitting journalism the country deserves. If it wasn’t for Bill Moyers and Brit-coms I would bypass PBS altogether.
George Macaca Allen being interviewd on MSNBC by a black guy.
Interesting.
Makawka likes Sarah, in fact, all the dirty old Republican men do, except Larry Craig and a few others still in the closet…
totally.
This better not preempt Dancing with the Stars!!!
I saw a link to this diary over at Kos, and I don’t know whether it is accurate or not..:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..111/582648
Two important points here. The issue about Palin’s odd pregnancy status was around in Alaska for months BEFORE she was ever considered a viable possibility for VP. Those rumors began even before McCain had won the nomination, and likely were initiated by Republican insiders in Alaska. They had nothing to do with Obama or his campaign.
NEXT~ it was Palin herself who exploited her own daughters pregnancy to rebut the arguments that the baby wasn’t hers. She could have easily provided any number of reports from her doctors that would have countered the rumors. She didn’t and still hasn’t. As it is we have only her word that her daughter is “five months” pregnant. BUT it was Palin herself that brought up Bristols curerent pregnancy…although the CONSERVATIVE New York Post run by Rupert Murdoch was apparently just about to disclose it!
Don’t expect Lindsay Graham to be coming out of the closet either. What a twisted conflicted life he must live.
Ah OH the Palin scandals are going to be on our local Phoenix news….. AMAZING….. They are telling them that McCain was forced to take Palin as Veep…… wow…. reporting all of these items above….
a surreal speech, I must say
It’s all part of the plan , to create an all christian nation
By and large, I have sworn off the the faked pregnancy story but the way Bristol holds that baby…there seems to be a motherly love there that I don’t see when the Guv holds the child. Perhaps, the girl has better maternal instincts than her Superwoman mom.
Yes, quite so. I’ve sent them innumerable emails about being wimps. I was amazed to find they didn’t car what I thought. So disappointing and all. I’ve sworn off them for good now.
by the way, cyndi mccaine is ten years older than Palin. oooooo could be trouble in the wet wing. If cindi was only 7 years older, Palin could be her daughter — if cyndi had had Palin at 17, knocked up by some…….
web site all screwy again.
Couldn’t take the thugs any more. Switched to replay of friday night’s Daily Show.
WAY better now.
where is DNA testing when you need it?
Americans are coming around to the truth that the only thing Republicans care about is winning elections and then dividing up the spoils amongst themselves, like the good barbarians that they are.
when they were showing a video of great americans, they had a photo of MLK with a number plaque on his chest from an arrest!! that’s a blooper.
My TV is off….I might catch another glimpse of Dan Bartlett. I hate to be a flake, but this really is all more than I can absorb. This barely educated woman, who may be a true sociopath as noted previously, just may be our VP.
Commenters of Lehrer did make a really interesting point. That the delegates there are all the ones (28% ?) who support W. McC will be trying to distance W + point out how the Repub party has gone wrong. You can see the disconnect. How hard it will be to play to the attendance as well as those watching at home.
Can we get back to the home of the brave and the land of the free? McC/Palin are not the folks to lead up; we the people must lead us and find our way back home.
she introduced Sarah Pawlenty!!!!!!
sorry, mentioned as VP as she was touting women’s franchise
Lets see….. All those Repug governors did things right…. BECAUSE they were Repugs…. they would even talk to them, BushCo provided resources BECAUSE they were Repugs….. The ONLY Democratic Governor was trashed beyond belief….. OMG why can’t they see the hypocrisy of this?
Call your local PBS station and inform them you will no longer pledge and you are encouraging your family, friends and colleagues to do the same. If public donations begin to dry up then they might get the message that the American public is sick and tired of their abysmal political coverage and the kid gloves approach they have concerning Republican corruption and hypocrisy.
Under no circumstances should Sarah Palin be attacked PERSONALLY. She is 100% allowed to be who she is – it’s not her fault that she’s been picked – it’s John McCain’s.
She may have abused power in “Troopergate.”
She fired a Police Chief and Librarian for not supporting her. (The librarian was rehired the P.C. settled out of court.)
She didn’t teach her daughter about birth control (and if President would not want your daughter taught).
She’s anti-choice, even in the cases of rape and incest.
She and her husband were members of an Alaskan separatist party. The leader of which said: “The fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American Government.”
She asked her librarian, “How do you ban books.”
Etc. etc.
The “Straight Talk Express” on John McCain’s campaign is clear and straightforward:
I, John McCain, am not fit to lead this great nation.
Not a blooper – that was ON PURPOSE!
They get to mention him, and diss him simultaneously. That’s the Rethug way. Just my opinion.
Jeez. Great post Teddy.
And the thing is, this doesn’t reflect on Palin. She is who she is. But it does reflect on John McCain and it speaks volumes about his judgement.
I might switch to Nancy Grace for some sanity, the Tot Mom seems sane compared to Slewfoot Sarah…
Just getting here… I’ve got my massive dose of Phenergan to suppress nausea and vomiting, my basket of rolled up socks, and as much alcohol as I need. I see the seats stage right are still empty… Ah, Coleman’s up.
If and idiot like W could be president, and idiot like Palin can be VP.
Bush changed everything.
Hi there, home from the dentist!
Did anybody else hear boos on CSPAN during the “Country First” video at the RNC — when Martin Luther King’s face appeared?
::laughing:: i could not believe my ears! i wonder if anyone in MSM will point out the terrible foible. lol…
You are right. It’s the Republiclan way.
I’m sticking with C-Span because I don’t have enough socks/Phenergan/alcohol to deal with how the McCainStream Media will cover this.
Whatever is going on in the Palin family is private…clearly they all love each other…at least that is a really good thing. If the daughter put up with the mother announcing to the entire world that she is pregnant..without falling through the floor…then they probably have a pretty darn good relationship. I’ve looked at video and pictures, etc., and I believe Trig is Sarah’s son. Maybe the daughter got pregnant because of her love for little babies and some competition with her mother. I hope it all turns out all right for them. JMHO
Now…as to the polar bears and the wolves..and the husband’s membership in an organization that wants to separate from the USA…including Sarah’s introduction at their convention…well…that is what I have a problem with…not to mention all of the other crappola that I think makes her unqualified to be president should McCain bite it.
That’s my Senator Sprinkle (Little Normy Coleman) carrying what little water he can must…couldn’t be less proud, thank you!
OK switched to the Cubs game. There’s some action there at least.
Hey! You left out the biggie, the part about (at least) one church of hers being tied to the Dominionist movement, with strong links to Joel’s Army!
Yep, sure did – small in volume from my point of view, but some boos.
Additionally, the clapping was LESS – applause-o-meters would be appreciated in this coverage, no?
This “disrespecting Dubya” is a theme we should play up. Actually, Andrea Mitchell is helping: she said just a few moments ago from the convention floor that “The president is appearing via satellite. They have planes now, but he’ll be at the White House for his convention appearance tonite.”
I think the some TradMed are:
a. pissed they got snookered on the Palin choice
b. pissed someone so unqualified and un-Village-y was picked
c. ready to abandon the GOP because they find themselves surrounded on the convention floor with 23%ers
Obama put out a very strong and excellent statement about leaving Bristol and her life completely out of this campaign. Lord knows, Sarah Palin offers an immensely target-rich environment all on her own.
Um, so now the father of the baby is on his way to the Republican convention. For the record, I’d like to say, “Huh?” In just 24 hours, the terms “unwed” and “out-of-wedlock” (both Republican favorites!) have morphed into “soon-to-be-wed”. I’ve yet to see the term “engaged”, though, which leaves me with the sense that these are two kids who are in a monogamous relationship who have talked about getting married but apparently haven’t gone so far as setting a date yet. I’m fine with all of this. I really no problem with teenagers who engage in healthy sexual relationships. I’d strongly recommend that they use contraception, of course, but the horse is out of the barn at this point.
All that being said, I seem to recall that the Republicans were once opposed to sex before marriage. Now they’re all excited that the man who’s banging the Veep candidate’s unwed teenage daughter is flying into town. Can you imagine the uproar if Palin had been a Democratic Veep pick?
I have concluded that for secretly gay Republicans, part of what gets their rocks off is the taboo aspect. If the Republican Party stopped treating gay people like second-class citizens it would take some of the fun out of their forbidden love.
He doesn’t really look hefty enough to carry all that water (heavy stuff, water) but he’s carrying the burden.
I agree…now pass the alcohol and the socks and the…*g*
My brain hurts ,I’ve had enough, time for mental health break.
Catch ya later
Things are simply happening too quickly to write a comprehensive post about Sarah Palin. Clearly, we’ll need another one tomorrow about her husband’s membership in the Alaska Independence Party, the Palin car-wash business that was closed by the state for nonpayment of taxed (Olbermann mentioned this tonight, no link yet) and their Dominionist-linked church.
Anything else I’ve missed today while in the dentist’s chair?
Cannot vouch for whether this is real or not……supposedly Dem oppo research on palin from 2006, courtesy of Susan DuQuesnay Bankston’s blog:
http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com/palin_20061.pdf
People for the American Way has put out a good letter that disqualifies Ms Palin. I saw it as an email; probably on the website.
The new baby is pregnant even though he’s a boy.
OH I can’t even watch this on CSPAN….. this PR crap…. they walked with MLK… give me a break….. they were the ones beating them…… when they say the pledge they are with the founders….. Where did I hear that before….OH ya Palin believes that too…..
I love her blog! Thanks,Waccamaw.:)
That was some kid’s essay…
Good point. And her irresponsible behavior with regard to her flying– after her speech– in Texas after her water broke needs to be further explored. If her story is true, it is completely irresponsible.
I think some of the relief must be that Laura and W escaped this particular dilemma.
Would someone please tell me what at dominionist church is? I think that is a new one for me.
OOOOHHH…. Looky… They have a tan person speaking!
I’ve given money to Al Franken twice so far. Will probably do so again.
Cubs opened with a HR by Soriano. They’re back after a weekend draught.
Normy Coleman is an abject embarrassment to this state; surpassed only by the incomparable insanity of Michelle Bachman. It might be a good time to switch to the Twinkies; going up against Toronto tonight. It would be the highest irony for the twilight of the Republican party to drive America back to Baseball. That’d be the only good thing that Party has done since Roosevelt.
Thank you. Ive always thought it could be contagious. I think I better be really, really careful….even if some folks think Im too old.
Here is the Palin business shut down from the WaPo
Palin Scrubbing Turns Up an Undeclared Car Wash
She’s a good hoot, isn’t she? Check in there several times a day.
Was hoping to see some street theater in Denver during the convention with men wearing diappers impersonating that paragon of Republican virtue, David Vitter who has a prediliction for diappers and hookers. He’s the one wearing the diappers.
Al is fighting back against the whole “He paid too much state tax to the wrong states,” deal. But Normy is such a stooge, it’s just going to take a little more media coverage. His greatest escapade has been getting depantsed by Goerge Galloway over the whole “Food for Oil, pack of lies!”
He is a poster boy for the Republican Party to say the least!
Some more points about our Waskilla Wabbit from Wasilla…
~ As mayor of Wasila (population about 5000 at the time) the actual management and EXECUTIVE functions were performed by a City Manager, hired after her vendetta campaign to eliminate many of the people doing the functional jobs in the City Government. The mayor of Wasilla is actually a small-time “legislative” job. From 1996-2002 Palin increased City Expenditures by 38% and taxes by 38%. The city had a balanced budget upon her arrival as mayor, but a debt of over $22 million upon her departure. City government expanded several fold during her tenure. Most of the city debt was for a Sports Facility on a piece of property the city didn’t have clear title to, resulting in perpetual, and still-ongoing litigation. She had the City hall and her offices repeatedly remodelled and redecorated. Her spending had no bounds, she constantly asked…and received…pork from Senator Stevens. She pushed Big Box stores into Wasilla by offering them low-tax incentives.
During her purges she attempted to fire the City Librarian for refusing to remove certain books from the City Library. Palin is a CENSOR. When this bid failed due to public opposition she cut library funding.
~ She was only a member of the PTA when her now Iraq-bound son (can we say 9/11? Iraq? Muslims?) was a child in elementary school. Shedidn’t participate afterwards. Same with being a Hockey Mom…none of the daughters play Hockey…though perhaps she took the to see Levi (”Levi’s Comin’ – Hide Yer Heart, Girls!”)
-BTW Her nickname…Sarah Baracuda was given because of her nasty cattiness…not her Basketball play. She didn’t score the “winning points” on the Wasilla Girls State High School Championship team. She scored the final points, long after the game was decided. She HAD BEEN injured much of the season. But the coach put her in during the waning minutes because her foot was likely healed, and he wanted to give her the prestige of playing in the championship game.
Ashley Gunn? That voice may kill me… Why the frack is this creature here? OHHHH… A missions trip to Africa, bringing faith to tiny black babies… I love the way she clutches her hands behind her back.
I met her in Austin TX 2005, the same time I met Molly Ivans….. She IS a hoot and she is the one who gave our good buddy Tom Delay the title of Hot Tub Tom…..
I go this in late, severa lthreads down, on the Family Values/Lay Off the Family issue.
The way I see it, Palin’s “family values” talk is a valid topic of discussion because of the wide difference between what she wants to claim for herself, and what she wants to control in everyone else.
The existence of that difference is evidence that her political positions are failures.
She wants abstinence to be the ONLY sex education taught anywhere. That her own daughter turns up pregnant as a minor is evidence that that position is a failure.
She is loudly against any American woman or girl having “privacy” or “choice” in their reproductive life; she wants the State to enforce laws against the protection of such “privacy” and the exercise of such “choice.” Yet she wants “privacy” maintained around her daughter’s “choice” to bear a child.
In other words, State enforcement of sexual ignorance and reproduction is for OTHER PEOPLE — not for Sarah Palin and the Palin blood kin!
I do believe that can be called Abuse of Power.
It is a political topic.
LS, I’ve never disagreed with you before, but to think that Bristol got pregnant intentionally because she loved Trig so much is off. She got pregnant because she’s a normal teen with normal hormonal activity, and her mom forbade her to use birth control.
Quite a fertile family!
From wiki:
I LOVE the idea of Al Franken in the Senate. He was a close friend of Paul Wellstone and is committed to returning that legacy to both MN and the Senate.
Works for me.
Not to mention the comic value of it.
Can anyone think of a reason why all the “bleacher seats” to the left as they pan away from the stage,are empty? And there’s Cindy Lou in yet another hideous outfit. This broad has $100+ million…
Be sure to add this to your bookmarks:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/
MICHELLE BACHMAN! In a yellow shift!
Maybe that’s why George is going to speak via satellite link… Didn’t want to be groped…
Imagine people tuning into C-SPAN just for the opportunity to watch Stuart Smalley lambast Lindsey Graham:
“Lindsey, come on out! Darn it, you can do it because you’re good enough; you’re smart enough and , darn it, people don’t absolutely hate you…much.”
Sorry, I should have phrased it differently…I didn’t mean that that was “the” reason she’s pregnant…I was just floating ideas…she seems so affectionate to the baby, and I figure she likes babies…many teenagers do…and pregnancy can be “mentally” contagious..teenagers and everybody else..you fall in love with them and you fall in love with boys and hormones are raging, etc., …that is what I meant.
If we are going to get into the fashion police…..it is the pic with Palin in RED high heals OR the super duper HUGE hoop earrings….. that you can see over at huffpo….
roflmao!
you happy liberal you
So true.
That would have looked so good wadded in the corner of the Chimperor’s suite room, too. She must be crushed!
I loved her Dorothy shoes…just sayin’..
The AK sessesionist group has ties to white supremecy.
The 527 group had ties to Abramoff. No wonder McCain liked her. She knew stuff.
OK Now it’s relevant:
Teddy another point is that Sarah Palin stated they did NOT tell their children about the Veep announcement in Ohio….. THEY told their kids that they were going to celebrate a wedding anniversary….. SHE DID NOT prepare her kids that they would forever live in a glass house OR even consult them if that is what they want in their life…..
When I made ANY big decision, I sat my kids down and we talked about it….. got their input and their buy in…… From the divorce, move to AZ, going back to college…. they were a part of the decision….
(Sorry, speculation on my part)
But, but, but… Mom and Dad raised her in the Assembly of God Church with the knowledge that abstinence is the way to go… Which is why we do NOT need her anywhere near any larger levers of power. She’s nuts.
707!
Frank, I’ll agree that kids shouldn’t be crucified for their lack of intelligence about sexual activity before marriage. At the same time when kids are unwilling to listen to their parents, or perhaps never informed by their parents, about the consequences of unprotected sex…then perhaps the schools provide a SECOND option to those rebellious kids and their peers. The guy didn’t want children, and the girl had mono (supposedly) for goodness sakes! I recall that Mononucleosis is a sexually transmitted disease.
As well, my understanding is that Bristol has been out of school for most of her Junior year with mono…and now looks set to be out for most of her Senior year as well. I suppose that Mom and Dad could devote more time to taking care of the babies…but where does that leave the VP position (not to mention the unfilled Governorship of Alaska while Palin runs for VP).
Who thought that McCain would make the Presidential Campaign into a bloody soap-opera?
they trotting out the black babies tonight
Yeah, I don’t buy that B.S. at all. Plus, she said she didn’t tell her children or her parents that she was pregnant until she was 7 months along. Either she’s a liar or extremely secretive.
I admire the fortitude of anyone who is watching the RNC tonight. Just can’t do it. It’s too frightening.
St. Cindy being extolled, and, ooooohh…. looooky…. Bridget is finally allowed to see the light of day, probably to make this poor pimped out exploited child feel less out of place.
Or both?
Ah-haaa! No, that’s for Alan Partridge. Sorry!
There are thousands of edits in the wiki entry for Sarah Palin.
ya know there is a lot of not telling folks going around in that family….. which seems to be spilling right over onto McBush ……
Just so you know, strikeout didn’t work in my post… I wanted to strikeout “pimped out,” for reasons we probably all remember.
if that’s true that’s effectively child abuse. Apparently Sarah Palin does exactly what she wants to do and to hell with the consequences to anyone around her.
Well, maybe I’ll take back the strikeout. Nicky certainly seems old enough to read her own words.
that’s rove trying to look like he had it right no matter which way this thing went
if it flopped, he told them so, if it was a stroke of genious, he told them so, if it was a non starter, he told them so, if it was a come see come sah, he told them so
rove is a moron and wants everyone to believe he has more inteligence then a hoodlum, he does not
Palin seems pathologically narcissistic to me.
Great. Now they’re abusing Teddy Roosevelt. He’s probably spinning in his grave over how they’ve tried to dismantle the National Park system he started. Fuckers.
Yeah, I was reading many of the links “Plunger” posted the other day with the tin-hat theory about the various Palin pregnancies. It’s fodder for Peyton Place meets Northern Exposer with a dose of Twin Peaks rolled in; but, seriously, isn’t Sarah Palin enough of a nutjob to be taken down by her own virtues…or lack thereof…oh, wait…there was that George W. Bush incident…TWICE…nevermind!
lots of things that don’t seem to be working. If FDL keeps getting hung up I’m out of here. It’s getting really tiresome.
Talking point from Brokaw, she plays out well on the stage…but…”the party pro’s are concerned”…
Second time today I’ve heard those words today from the pundits…
plus, I believe it was jane or marcy, I forget, but this is the tag against palin that will get the most play, even from the wing nuts, it concerns her desire for them to detach themselves from these united states;
“she doesn’t even want to be an american, how can we possibly make her vice president”
and the follow up;
“talk about enemies in our midst, she has told us so herself”
bing
Wow.
then she is the sole mate of Cheney, the most narcissistic person I have ever seen or read about in public life
Seems they tried to grow too fast too soon… Sucks.
From photos is looks like Bristol is stuck with the role of chief childcare provider.
Does anybody have a clue as to who this broad is? Rachel something…
I couldn’t take anymore so I did turn on Nancy Grace to follow the latest on the adventures of the relatively sane Anthony family. Cindy Anthony still thinks the baby is alive and in Mexico with the babysitter.
Well, Mom’s too busy “governoring” and getting ready to be “vice presidenting,” if anyone ever explains to her what the job entails…. /snark, maybe
I HOPE you are not referring to Rachel Maddow as a broad…
meow?
mellow?
meadow?
me and you?
hmmmm
I’ll get back to you
The young man who had sex with the daughter is going to the convention. Normally I would say wtf but it doesn’t seem appropriate at this time. Wonkette said that he is being flown down, but is this for real?
Sorry but still “broad” is so not necessary…
Can you imagine the conversation at the home of the groom-to-be? I wonder how this is playing out with his family and I doubt he or they were consulted about anything. Oops – they’re getting married – tough if you don’t like it.
“UPDATE: Damn, this story is moving fast”
I’ve been saying for several days now that her nomination will be withdrawn by the end of the week.
Even now the damage control teams are being formed, and the VP selection committee is having another go.
{s}Tonight Holy Joe throws convention into an uproar by accepting McCain’s alleged offer of the VP nomination {/s}
Stay tuned!
Bob in HI
NOOOOOO…. NOOOOOOOO…. NEVER. I’m on C-Span and they have some singer named Rachel.
she had snarkalosity in her post, she is marion, how is now in savanah, do not mess with marion, she has the seal of the lake and is protected
fyi, usopen is on and Andy Roddick will be on soon. Even if you don’t follow tennis, it’s definitely better than the rnc.
Rachel Lampa a Christian Pop singer trying to sing like a sistah. What Rot!
it is a
shotgunbribed appearance, he is now set up for a life of luxerySobering news from Lindsay
aha, I thought you were being snarkish, me not watching to know there is another rachael besides our bestest
I’m replying to myself, is the young man really going to the convention?
NOOOOO… See my reply to TwinpeaksnikkiSF@182, at 188. Different Rachel ENTIRELY!
Look at the guy in the goofy bloue hat
I am the only one totally annoyed by that stupid flagwaving backdrop?
Thanks, but how is this helpful since the info on his web page is sparse and questionable
that wasn’t in response to katymine, sorry about that
If he’s being forced to do that it brings the “child abuse” to an even higher level. Un-freaking-believable.
Gag me with a spoon, McCain saves Luziana!
No. This has been another episode of…
somehow I think that this couple is liable to make Jenna and not-Jenna look good.
I feel sorry for Bristol – her private life out there for the world to see and judge – and if Mommie does not get the gig, I think Bristol will be on the receiving end of considerable wrath.
The backdrop behind the podium is so not interesting. I guess they couldn’t find a good not gay designer.
Ah…. Last night’s appearance by Cindy has been noted. For those of you who missed it live on C-Span (it was VERY brief, but I saw it live and can attest to the truth of the following) our beloved TRex took note too.
Fire dept captain a Butch Blonde Bimbo, these people are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo confused.
Brain Bleach!!!! Barbara Bush….Ahhhhhhgggg
spit, spit, spit…
Babs is there! Now everything will be OK.
HW and Babs made it, why couldn’t W?
the whole roman pillar thing was taken and they couldn’t come up with an option as good
If we’re REALLY lucky when they see W’s satellite feed they’ll start chanting “4 more years, 4 more years…” A girl can pray, can’t she?
Twin Peaks,
Great link. I just read the link and have a profound sense of foreboding. This woman, Sarah Palin is an etrocious choice for a VP. This link is a must read for all pups. Please go there and come back and add your comments. In every way she is not even capable of being VP no less Pres. We know McSame is 72 and comes from a bad-heart family. Both his father and grandfather have died from heart attacks. If she becomes president this country is doomed!
WayneC
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/…..rspective/
So let’s see how the bridge collapse is Obama’s fault…
Eli has some goodies for us
that is ok…. I brought up the hyper super duper uber flag/pledge allegiance/military service where every SUV must have a flag being destroyed by flapping against the car body….. it is when I turned it off even Cspan…. just could NOT do that to myself…..
Damn, why didn’t she show up in your uniform?
I’ve been trying to post this all day…Yeoman Smith from Star Trek…check out the color and even the “emblem” or “broach” on Cindy…hahahaha:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie……/ed/Smith_(Yeoman).jpg/76px-Smith_(Yeoman).jpg
Thanks for posting. I don’t know if you posted it earlier (someone did), but I bookmarked it.
Nary an empty seat in the house /s
Still here! Get a life, eh!
Thanks for informative response.
There’s a problem with the linky, let me see if I can fix…
I thought I saw the problem, but my “fix” didn’t work either…
link doesn’t work
The link to STLToday has been edited, omitting the mention of the Miss Congeniality prize. All it says about the contest is:
She’ll fit right in with the psychopath who wants to becoome our next president!
And whilst you are at it, ring NPR and tell them likewise, the tawdry whores!
Twinpeaks, Great link. This link is to a postby an Alaskan blogger. It details the Palin oddities to date. It is really worthwhile reading. I highly recommend it. Then come back and post yer comments If McPain is elected this woman will be the laughingstosk of the US. McPain will probably have a heart attack while in office. His grandfather and father both died of haert attacks before 72yrs old. If she necomes president, we’re in a heap load of trouble. Worse than BushCo! Believe it! Read the post!
WayneC
http://mudflats.wordpress.com
With any due respect, this comment reminds me of Bill Frist’s long-distance “diagnosis” of Terry Schiavo.
That was purported to be some kid’s essay…
Fixed it, IMO.
As I posted yesterday, some kid does not write like that! The dictionis all wrong and much too sophisticated, especially the ligatures.
RevBev, lookie here:
http://www.onlinejournal.com/T…..mazza.html
Also, there is another dominionist thread of theological opinion (I hesitate to honour it as thought) which takes liberties with the passages in the Genesis accounts of Mankind supposedly having received a charge to have dominion over all of the earth and everything therein.
Lynn White, the distinguished mediævalist at Santa Barbara, and John Passmore, the Australian philosopher, and also myself, have all criticised this line of thinking (if one can call this thinking) as leading to our crisis of environment, as it opens the way to thinking of Earth as a huge strip mine for exploitation. Recall James Watt opining that conservation was batty inasmuch as the End Times were at hand and conserved resources would all be wasted then. Shades of the present-day rapture nutters!
And many Minnesotans think of him as quite the philanderer. Potential liability issues cause me not to spell it out more assertively here.
Vintage Marion! ROFLMAO. Thanks.
Bachman is our shame here in MN. Along with many other current things, alas.
The blog entry entitled “Alaska Pipeline” has been completely re-written since I captured the quotes above.
Sounds like a Harlequin pulp romantic novel.
Maybe you could get rich off of this. /s
Pro-life. I think it’s more like Pro-Life-White-babies.
Everything is forgiven because like Mom, they are
good at making white babies.
Re-plu-agains don’t have good sex lives. That’s why they are
sex starved for her. It’s about being the minority. Hail
Mary makes white kids!