Comments on: Gustav Hits Land, But The Human Element Is Hard To Measure http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:32:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ann in AZ http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611079 Ann in AZ Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:28:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611079 <p>Oh, OT, but I meant to ask if anyone noticed that Bob Geiger had a new column up today?</p> Oh, OT, but I meant to ask if anyone noticed that Bob Geiger had a new column up today?

]]> By: siri http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611077 siri Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:24:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611077 <p>Submitted and <a href="http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/So_Who_are_These_Oh_So_Scary_People_in_the_Streets_of_St_Pa" rel="nofollow">Dugg!</a><br /> Bring on the shovels!</p> Submitted and Dugg!
Bring on the shovels!

]]> By: siri http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611064 siri Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:09:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611064 <p>Bravo Toby. And maybe, JUST maybe if Obama’s people and the rest of us can do ENOUGH, maybe he’ll see fit to just gut and get rid of FEMA all together. That’d save the nation some money, put it all into NoLA reconstruction, send Skeletor off packing, maybe a prison system somewhere can take him….</p> <p>and the dreamin’ goes on and on and on…..</p> Bravo Toby. And maybe, JUST maybe if Obama’s people and the rest of us can do ENOUGH, maybe he’ll see fit to just gut and get rid of FEMA all together. That’d save the nation some money, put it all into NoLA reconstruction, send Skeletor off packing, maybe a prison system somewhere can take him….

and the dreamin’ goes on and on and on…..

]]> By: boogiecheck http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611061 boogiecheck Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:07:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611061 <p>I caught the Gov of Texas “briefing” Bush on how they were handling the crisis–talk about making your stomach turn–it was all about patting himself on the back–with the ultimate “Texas can show them how it’s done”. </p> <p>Bush immediately made it political by stating that *this* time things were better <em>because the governors worked together better</em> totalling negating his administration’s actions (or inaction) for what happened in 2005. </p> <p>And the thing is, at that particular moment, Gustav had barely landed. It wasn’t over, and they were patting themselves on the back. Good Grief.</p> I caught the Gov of Texas “briefing” Bush on how they were handling the crisis–talk about making your stomach turn–it was all about patting himself on the back–with the ultimate “Texas can show them how it’s done”.

Bush immediately made it political by stating that *this* time things were better because the governors worked together better totalling negating his administration’s actions (or inaction) for what happened in 2005.

And the thing is, at that particular moment, Gustav had barely landed. It wasn’t over, and they were patting themselves on the back. Good Grief.

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611054 newtonusr Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:02:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611054 <p>Thanks for the reminder!</p> Thanks for the reminder!

]]> By: jayt http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611046 jayt Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:57:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611046 <p><i>If Neal and JEB’s levies break, McCain is in a world of sh*t.</i></p> <p>Oh yeah, I’m sure that the Corporate Media will be all over The Bush Connection. /s</p> If Neal and JEB’s levies break, McCain is in a world of sh*t.

Oh yeah, I’m sure that the Corporate Media will be all over The Bush Connection. /s

]]> By: Elliott http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611044 Elliott Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:55:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611044 <p>OT<br /> don’t forget to keep checking <a href="http://cliffschecter.firedoglake.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>Campaign Silo</strong></a> for the ongoing attack on protesting the RNC</p> OT
don’t forget to keep checking Campaign Silo for the ongoing attack on protesting the RNC

]]> By: Albatross http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611041 Albatross Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:53:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611041 <p>What a load of B.S. from CNN. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/31/obama.mccain.poll/index.html" rel="nofollow">Biased polling, biased results, anyone?</a></p> What a load of B.S. from CNN. Biased polling, biased results, anyone?

]]> By: jayt http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611037 jayt Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:51:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611037 <p><i>Meanwhile, the Obama campaign will quietly mobilize its e-mail lists and supporter contacts to get volunteers, donations, and whatever else is needed as the storm progresses. Not exactly a security-laden, photo-op, in-the-way and taking resources away from the folks who really need them bonanza like McCain seems to be planning…but that’s the point, isn’t it?</i></p> <p>Yes, but:</p> <p>You obviously didn’t see Larry King do a side-by-side (!!) interview in 2005 with the Dalai Lama and a fundie mega-church preacher, in which King asked each what they were doing for the Katrina victims. The fundie guy listed a whole bunch of very admirable things - money, food, volunteers, etc. Then King asked the Dalai Lama, who replied “praying for them”.</p> <p>Larry King then proceeded to treat the Dalai Lama like a piece of crap for the rest of the interview - and that’s the last time I ever watched Larry King.</p> <p>I’m afraid that Obama is in a similar Catch-22 position, where good deeds will possibly be off-set by a “not good enough” national response.</p> Meanwhile, the Obama campaign will quietly mobilize its e-mail lists and supporter contacts to get volunteers, donations, and whatever else is needed as the storm progresses. Not exactly a security-laden, photo-op, in-the-way and taking resources away from the folks who really need them bonanza like McCain seems to be planning…but that’s the point, isn’t it?

Yes, but:

You obviously didn’t see Larry King do a side-by-side (!!) interview in 2005 with the Dalai Lama and a fundie mega-church preacher, in which King asked each what they were doing for the Katrina victims. The fundie guy listed a whole bunch of very admirable things – money, food, volunteers, etc. Then King asked the Dalai Lama, who replied “praying for them”.

Larry King then proceeded to treat the Dalai Lama like a piece of crap for the rest of the interview – and that’s the last time I ever watched Larry King.

I’m afraid that Obama is in a similar Catch-22 position, where good deeds will possibly be off-set by a “not good enough” national response.

]]> By: Cellar47 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611033 Cellar47 Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:49:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/gustav-hits-land-but-the-human-element-is-hard-to-measure/#comment-1611033 <p>On a related matter, <a href="http://fablog.ehrensteinland.com/2008/09/01/landfall-for-babymommagate/" rel="nofollow">speaking of that “human element”</a> (Provided of course one accepts the notion that Republicans are human, rather than Lectroids From Planet 10.)</p> On a related matter, speaking of that “human element” (Provided of course one accepts the notion that Republicans are human, rather than Lectroids From Planet 10.)

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