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	<title>Comments on: Early Morning Swim</title>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610615</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Emphasis on &lt;strong&gt;proven&lt;/strong&gt; guilty.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emphasis on <strong>proven</strong> guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610614</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m all for going after her for her judgment, etc, but I’m not climbing aboard the BabyGate Train until I see some irrefutable proof of the accusation.  Even with that I’d be more comfortable linking it to her judgment rather than some wild-eyed personal attack.  Far as I’m concerned continuing to harp on the baby thing without solid proof is nothing more than attention seeking behaviour on the part of the proponents.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m old fashioned.  Innocent until proven guilty.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m all for going after her for her judgment, etc, but I’m not climbing aboard the BabyGate Train until I see some irrefutable proof of the accusation.  Even with that I’d be more comfortable linking it to her judgment rather than some wild-eyed personal attack.  Far as I’m concerned continuing to harp on the baby thing without solid proof is nothing more than attention seeking behaviour on the part of the proponents.</p>
<p>I’m old fashioned.  Innocent until proven guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: RieszFischer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610613</link>
		<dc:creator>RieszFischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That was their excuse for impeaching Clinton. And it’s a stretch at best.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think we can justify going after Palin on the basis that that’s the way politics is played and there’s no reason we should unilaterally disarm. So there’s nothing wrong with going after her on personal issues, but I would be careful about playing the “blackmail’ card.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was their excuse for impeaching Clinton. And it’s a stretch at best.</p>
<p>I think we can justify going after Palin on the basis that that’s the way politics is played and there’s no reason we should unilaterally disarm. So there’s nothing wrong with going after her on personal issues, but I would be careful about playing the “blackmail’ card.</p>
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		<title>By: PeteCO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610612</link>
		<dc:creator>PeteCO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adn.com/front/story/382864.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.adn.com/front/story/382864.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think this Alaska Daily News story raises questions about her judgement. I’m maintaining an open mind about the whole “daughter is real mother” aspect.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>I think this Alaska Daily News story raises questions about her judgement. I’m maintaining an open mind about the whole “daughter is real mother” aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: diablesseblu</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610610</link>
		<dc:creator>diablesseblu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why do I have the idea about Gov. Palin that all her choices are predicated on her outrageous personal ambition?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I have the idea about Gov. Palin that all her choices are predicated on her outrageous personal ambition?</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610609</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve seen the pictures and heard the interviews.  You got nothing but speculation.  I wouldn’t waste my time swiftboating you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve seen the pictures and heard the interviews.  You got nothing but speculation.  I wouldn’t waste my time swiftboating you.</p>
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		<title>By: TobyWollin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610608</link>
		<dc:creator>TobyWollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry..I was looking at the photographs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry..I was looking at the photographs.</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610607</link>
		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And the effectiveness of abstinence only approach to sex ed&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the effectiveness of abstinence only approach to sex ed</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610606</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You haven’t watched the video or looked at the photos.  These are visual evidence.  You are entitled to draw your own conclusions AFTER looking at them with your own eyes.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Swiftboating the medium (and the messengers) is a Rovian tactic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You haven’t watched the video or looked at the photos.  These are visual evidence.  You are entitled to draw your own conclusions AFTER looking at them with your own eyes.  </p>
<p>Swiftboating the medium (and the messengers) is a Rovian tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/01/early-morning-swim-13/#comment-1610605</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s not about making “political hay” from my perspective.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have to see the big picture here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What did Rove know and when did he know it?  With the resources of the entire Shadow Government at McCain/Rove’s disposal, we must ask ourselves - did they know, or did they not know?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If they knew, then Palin is positively a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;strawman selection&lt;/a&gt; - NOT their final pick for VP…and they did all this on purpose.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If they really didn’t know, then the blogosphere should be in charge of US Intelligence under a McCain Administration, because in no time flat, it figured this out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Putting forth a strawman prior to your actual choice is strategically brilliant. It takes all the steam out of the pressure cooker before removing the lid. You gain the benefit of hearing the entire political debate on both sides of the issue, such that when you put forth your ACTUAL choice (who looks sooooo much better by comparison), you already have the message framed to appease your own constituents and answer your critics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bernard Kerick for Homeland Security Director?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Harriet Miers for Supreme Court Justice?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sarah Palin for Vice President of the United States?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who? What??? Get real.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Behold a pattern&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not about making “political hay” from my perspective.</p>
<p>You have to see the big picture here.</p>
<p>What did Rove know and when did he know it?  With the resources of the entire Shadow Government at McCain/Rove’s disposal, we must ask ourselves &#8211; did they know, or did they not know?</p>
<p>If they knew, then Palin is positively a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman" rel="nofollow">strawman selection</a> &#8211; NOT their final pick for VP…and they did all this on purpose.</p>
<p>If they really didn’t know, then the blogosphere should be in charge of US Intelligence under a McCain Administration, because in no time flat, it figured this out.</p>
<p>Putting forth a strawman prior to your actual choice is strategically brilliant. It takes all the steam out of the pressure cooker before removing the lid. You gain the benefit of hearing the entire political debate on both sides of the issue, such that when you put forth your ACTUAL choice (who looks sooooo much better by comparison), you already have the message framed to appease your own constituents and answer your critics.</p>
<p>Bernard Kerick for Homeland Security Director?</p>
<p>Harriet Miers for Supreme Court Justice?</p>
<p>Sarah Palin for Vice President of the United States?</p>
<p>Who? What??? Get real.</p>
<p>Behold a pattern</p>
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