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It is against the law for the governor to officially advocate for or against a ballot measure; however, Palin took what she calls "personal privilege" to discuss one of this year’s most contentious initiatives, which voters will decide Tuesday.
Along with taking a position on the big mine’s side, Palin’s administration apparently used state Department of Natural Resources resources to lobby for defeat of the Clean Water Initiative under the pretense of creating a state run website to "educate" citizens. The citizen group Alaskans for Clean Water responded by filing “a complaint against DNR for a recently-launched state website meant to clarify the issue for voters. “
The complaint alleges that the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) improperly attempted to influence the outcome of an election by publishing information against the initiative on its website. It also alleges that DNR failed to report to APOC the expenditures, including employee time, related to creation of the information.
“It has become clear to us that the Department of Natural Resources is working hand-in-hand with the industry, and that the state is inappropriately making efforts to influence voters on this ballot initiative,” said Art Hackney, a co-sponsor of Ballot Measure #4.
The Alaska Public Offices Commission agreed with the Clean Water advocates and ruled that the website had to be taken down:
APOC ruled that the state has an obligation to be “fair and neutral” and that the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) web site was not fair. In fact, the Commission said it had problems with the wording on nearly every page of the site. APOC also ruled that all state officials are enjoined from making public statements that are critical of the initiative.
The Clean Water initiative which was opposed by mining interests required that wild salmon runs be protected by any new mining operations.
The initiative was defeated – with the Governor’s help – on August 26 – opening up Bristol Bay for the largest open pit mining operation in the world.
Way to go Gov Palin – respect for law? Protection of the environment? Not so much.
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That is just disgusting.
She’ll fit right in.
Obama!
Not a good start for the McSame/Palin ticket
Aloha, Siun! I’m back! ;-)
her behaviour is appalin’
Appalin’ Palin.
My hat is off to ya Siun.
What did I see earlier?
” Rule #1, Don’t fuck with the hippies”……
Sarah Palin: Stunt Casting
Sarah Palin: Stunt Casting
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..582/579110
But she’s so darn purty! And she’s a hockey Mom! And she has a baby with Down Syndrome, whom she didn’t abort!
Digg it!
The videos of the Bristol Bay are stunning – and the damage this will cause is horrifying.
The advocates for the Clean Water initiative included native peoples, commercial and sport fisherman, environmentalist and more – the opposition was the big mining companies and Gov Palin.
And Bristol Bay is also threatened as a possible drill drill drill location.
WWF profiles it here – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHynzyARr_U
She seems to have zero respect for the environment…you know…the world…the one she and her five kids and husband use…the one that supports their lives with air and water…the one that has “created” beautiful creatures like polar bears and wolves. Yeah, that world.
This woman seems to be a narcissistic individual and a power freak. Very unenlightened and oblivious.
Kinda like W.
Thanks Siun. So Palin is just another stinking, law breaking, neo-con Corporate Lobbyist. Who could have anticipated…
Just watching the film clip of the announcement on PBS. Someone noted on another blog—haven’t been here much today—that McThuselah (happy 72nd!) had to stop and read every word, including her name off his cue cards.
He’s been doing that a lot lately. I seriously think he’s losing it. He couldn’t say “announce my running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin” without looking at a crib sheet? WTF?
Jesus, this fuckin election ain’t gunna be close unless the fascists borrow poll watchers from Robert Mugabe ta secure the Deibolt ballots.
rumor has it its s her daughters baby….what do i know
Someone a couple threads down asked about the NPR story about Palin’s wikipedia entry being padded yesterday in anticipation of today’s announcement.
http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..d=94118849
Turns out that McBush only met this woman ONCE before picking her- and then says “When you get to know her like I do- yer really gonna LOVE her ass”…what bullshit!
and her portfolio is managed by . . . wait for it . . . . Smith Barney!
Oh and the voice!!! How much do you want to hear that voice?
daughter absent from school for 4 months….mother anounces she is pregnant 1 month before she gives birth….wtf
Now Siun – you know the rules. IOKIYAR. Doesn’t matter what where, or when, it’s always OK for them.
what makes you think they won’t?
That’s just it, he loves her ass!
Another Gooper committing crimes for Big Holes In The Ground.
More of McSame.
So does this mean that Palin does have experience?
Where are you getting that info?
ill give link
Uhmmm, so much for her husband being a fisherman. Does anyone know if he fished Bristol Bay? He better hang on to that day job with big oil.
The voice– yeah, that’s what I thought, too. McCain-Palin– what a ticket. I wonder how many times we’ll actually see them together in anything but a cameo role. Their voices are like water and oil– they don’t mix well.
This is gonna be interesting.
Bob in HI
On March 5th, 2008 Alaska’s Republican Governor, Sarah Palin, announced to the media that she was 7 months pregnant with her 5th child. She is currently 44.
The controversy arises from two sources: First, Palin does not appear preganant in any recent photographs. The announcement came as quite a shock to people who had worked closely with her, and have been quoted as saying that she did not appear pregnant whatsoever during the prior 7 months. While this is debatable, you can judge for yourself here: http://gov.state.ak.us/photos.php
Second, Palin’s daughter Bristol is 16 and attends an Anchorage high school. Students who have attended class with her report that she has been out of school for months, claiming a prolonged case of mono.
Obviously I don’t know much about Alaska but would they really not notice for 8 months that their Governor was pregnant?
Hmmm…I found a post about that story. That could explain why she was back at work 3 days after giving birth.
I haven’t been able to find any info on the family fishing business – would love to see it if anyone can find links, etc
Did the thugs forget that Ted Toobz goes on trial Sept. 25? Don’t you think there might be some attention paid to that?
The Alaska gov link does not work.
Hmmmmm.
This is more great stuff, Siun. Whether it be the stuff from Iraq or this — great job. I heard Bob Dylan describe open pit mining they did where he grew up on the Masabi Iron range. Sounds li9ke they basically just rip craters in the earth and leave it.
On the political siode of this…… I said in an earlier thread that i thought it was a good pick from McCain’s point of view. Since then I’ve talked to a few people — apolitical types. They’ve all been telling me how sick of Obama they are. “Beerfart, if you think he’s any different; if you think he’s going to change anything, you’re crazy. These guys are all the same.” All of them thought the Palin pick was hilarious and are sure McCain just blew the election. I’m not sure it’s that simple but I’m rethinking my positions as to whether this was a good move for McCain.
They just can’t stop digging themselves bigger holes…! Is there a DSM IV diagnosis for it? ;-)
well, prolly not, considering they go around in mucklucks and parkas half the time.
I was under the impression Robert Mugabe got HIS poll watchers from the GOP as part of a “foreign aid package?” In fact, having more clients now than they know what to do with, Republicans are planning to turn the installation of dictators under the guise of democracy into a franchise operation.
Reddit
that was me ! yup. Thanks Hugh I wonder if anythign can be made of that :)
Indoors?
Hi everyone – this is really interesting. Pretty much all I’ve heard today is how squeaky-clean this woman is – elected on anti-corruption platform, shut down a “highway to nowhere” under construction, and sold off the gov’s private airplane.
But it sounds like she has some pretty clay-ey feet. Only hope more to come!
btw, has ET checked in with comments yet?
And she makes him look old and stooped over and shriveled. I mean, he is old and stooped over and shriveled, but I wouldn’t think he’d want to accentuate it.
Exactly. When I first heard that earlier I was horrified. A mother leaves her baby, that has a disability no less, after three days to go to work!?!? Jeezus that’s messed up, unless this rumor is true. Let’s make sure the National Enquirer is on this story.
At 44 especially, how the hell could she even physically do that?
Blackwater.
“That the pregnancy is so advanced astonished all who heard the news. The governor, a runner who’s always been trim, simply doesn’t look pregnant.
Even close members of her staff said they only learned this week their boss was expecting.
“I thought it was becoming obvious,” Palin said. “You know, clothes getting snugger and snugger.”
But people just couldn’t believe the news.
“Really? No!” said Bethel state Rep. Mary Nelson, who is close to giving birth herself.
“It’s wonderful. She’s very well-disguised,” said Senate President Lyda Green, a mother of three who has sometimes sparred with Palin politically. “When I was five months pregnant, there was absolutely no question that I was with child.”
“Palin said she decided to reveal the pregnancy after she felt the signs were giving her away, like doing less running this winter and being “ravenously hungry.”
She’s known as a fashion plate, but said she hasn’t been dressing differently to cover her barely perceptible bulge.”
http://www.adn.com/front/story/336402.html
Mark Shields shilling for her on PBS right now.
Antisocial Personality Disorder seems to cover it.
As part of the NPR story on the wikipedia padding – a Wikipedia spokesperson said they removbed it all – just too suspicious.
The capitol dome is constructed from blocks of snow. No, in reality they built is out of bales of money from Big Oil.
She has her own scandal underway right now for getting some trooper fired. Sounds like she’s dirtying up nicely if that’s true. She’s only been Gov for 2 years, after all
i have never heard of such a thing except in THE GOOD EARTH”G”
1,1/2
Good for wikipedia. That’s one source of propaganda down
Interesting, you say? . . .
Once upon a time, there was a pastor’s wife who showed up for church one Sunday in an outfit that was just horrid. The colors clashed, the cut was wrong, and she was blissfully clueless about it. She came up to one of the matriarchs of the church, gushing, and asked “So, what do you think of my new outfit?” Said the matriarch, diplomatically, “It’s very . . . interesting.”
Even better.. i mean.. worse
The State Trooper was her ex-brother in law: in a custody fight with the Governor’s sister.
Nice piece of work McCain chose.
what nobody has disscussed is WHO would be her close viceroy/advisor if McPutz kicks it…Darth just perchance
It’s reported that she was able to keep trim, and keep her knocked-upedness secret,by walking long distances in the Statehouse and the governor’s mansion to alternate bathrooms so no one would notice she was pissing every 7 minutes.
aka Republican Diplomacy Corp.
Palin won the governors office w/ 115K- votes w/ less than 250K cast. The population of Alaska is 684K, Anchorage has a pop of 280K. How many cities in the US are larger than alaska? How many cities have more complex bureaucracies? How many times in her life has she been in a real city? Does she understand what the problems of real cities are? Does she understand the meaning of law.
They already have a new campaign poster out.
H/T Maru.
Oh yeah. We’re all just amazed over here. About the only thing she does for McCain is -maybe- garner a few evangelicals. At the debates between her and Joe we all expect a Monty Pythonesque death match with her as the loser.
Running through a comparison of her and Biden… are there more people in Delaware or Alaska? My daughter has weighed in. The verdict. Uh oh. Mistake, Johnny boy. “She isn’t even very pretty.” There you have it.
Don’t forget, the mayor of Anchorage is Mark Begich who is running against Toobz Ted Stevens for the Senate.
Palin was the Mayor of Wasilla (sp?), a town of 8k, before being elected governor.
I like the fact McSame only met her once…! Apparently, they didn’t vet her very well. Should be interesting to see Alaskan politics become front page news with Young and Teddy piled on top for good measure…!
Why not Monty Pythonesque. She’s Michael Palin’s sister-in-law, isn’t she?
Did you leave off the snark tag?
I have known some tall, slender, athletic women who barely looked pregnant in their 8th or 9th month… but the other factoids are ..interesting.
Mark Shields needs his retirement more than he realizes. His commentary on PBS is dull. He rarely, if ever, calls David Brooks out on his nonsense. I suppose if Colmes leaves Hannity there would be a seat waiting for Shields.
I found it pretty heartening that the local news radio station here in DC, the first thing they mentioned was the ethics scandal, and they briefly mentioned her anti-environmentalism, too. I guess some reporter actually decided to do a quick Google search and run with the top items instead of just using the McCain press release.
To Republicans nothing insures loyalty like a big walk-in closet full o’ skeletons.
Thanks Siun.
Hehe Michael did spring immediately to my mind as I said it
Is this another John McShame pander?
Does she have to understand any of that? She’s a Republic. Can she ride a bike?
Never been in a city? Irrelevant to Repubs. All Repubs live in the suburbs or small town, y’know. They’ve cerainly demonstrated no interest in cities for the last 30 or 40 years.
Looked it up. More people in Delaware. The point? None. Absolutely none.
It was 5700 when she was elected and 8K is an estimate
Governor Global Warming
Shields reminds me of the dormouse in Alice in Wonderland, mostly asleep most of the time.
LOL
It’s actually a good point. Governorships are not equal. After all,
the Decider was a Governor of sorts.
Probably already been discussed but after a week of semi-positive on-air reviews of the Dem convention, Brooks NYT column this morning was completely deranged. It seemed like an attempt at Gonzo journalism which failed because he has the stream but alas, no consciousness.
could she get away with “the big cover up”
Be careful not to diss small towns … they have very active voters.
Lack of any experience on global issues – go for it.
And corruption and troopergate and being in bed with big oil and mining … better still.
IMHO, McCain’s choice of Palin was the result of all his first tier choices turning him down. Insiders must know that McSame and the Republicans are going to be sent to the woodshed in Nov. and none of them wanted any part of this train wreck. Sarah Palin will make a great “where are they now?” subject in 20 years.
Are you guys suggesting that this could be a case of “Ma, Ma, Where’s my Pa? Gone to the White House, Hardy Haw, Haw” (Grover Harding). Of course, she’ll refuse to have a genetic test done on the baby…but imagine if some young man in Alaska came out and apologized for getting Palin’s daughter
pregnantsick with mono.I knew there had to be a simple explanation. *g*
Governor of Texas is a ceremonial postion… This mystery pregnancy stuff is just too delicious.
Hmmm.
http://www.adn.com/626/story/382864.html
Read it first thing this a.m. at my desk. Obnly reason i kept going was to see if it could get stupider and worser. It did. Satire that misses the mark is worse than…. well, a beerfart.
FWIW, I grew up in a small town with a then population of 5200 and now has 6600 or so.
And there’s no way in hell I would vote for any of the mayors of that town for VP or even governor.
Maybe State Senator or House. Maybe.
lol!!
I recall hearing that before throwing his hat in the gubernatorial ring Bush told an associate he’d RATHER be baseball commissioner. When that didn’t pan out he ran for governor. Too bad for America that major league team owners are smarter than Supreme Court justices.
Could be all about getting the fundies to turnout (?)
What cracked me up was when McCain made the big claim that she was the commander of Alaska’s National Guard.
Well…every Governor is such…by law. It doesn’t mean that they have any military experience at all. Talk about a pathetic effort to build up her credentials!
The story of Palin’s pregnancy is another example of the media reporting nothing to see here move along, except your common sense kicks in and you realize it doesn’t make any sense at all.
David Gregory and Rachel just said that Palin’s water broke prior to her speech and then flew back to Alaska…!
I think you mean Grover Cleveland.
great post, Siun. Thank you!
so, has anyone heard from joe lie on this little matter? or is he still trying to pick up the pieces of his sploded head?
Palin has a good story and her husband is a union member so she best not be under sold in Ohio and parts of Pennsylvania. She had a choice on carrying her child and more power to her, but I want to protect that choice.
LOL!
oh, that’s rich Bluetoe2!
See me at #91
“I don’t think it was unreasonable for her to continue to travel back,” Baldwin-Johnson said
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this is total Bullkackkkkkkky
I try to avoid most of NYT’s columnists. I see enough of Brooks on the NewsHour, too much.
Read that link. This part was disturbing.
In a letter she e-mailed to relatives and close friends Friday after giving birth, Palin wrote, “Many people will express sympathy, but you don’t want or need that, because Trig will be a joy. You will have to trust me on this.” She wrote it in the voice of and signed it as “Trig’s Creator, Your Heavenly Father.
The baby’s creator was the Heavenly Father? Look, I was raised catholic and we were always taught that happened once and once only and they broke the mold. Never to be done again.
Well, Romney would have said yes.. but McCain hates Romney but i could easily see Lieberman saying no and it’s not a stretch to suppose that the others are seeing the handwriting on the wall. The Maverick’s gotten gelded nicely.
Like I said…she’s kinda like W.
Right? And my uncle was a POW. Never thought he should be president. That ticket really sucks.
This Palin nomination will not last until Monday. Her multiple scandals (firing the trooper, firing all the town’s managers when she became mayor, illegally weighing in on a state referendum, and her donations from VECO when she ran for LtGov) will sink this nomination. The GOPs will postpone their convention one week because of Gustav, McCain will pick Cheney as his running mate, and the GOP ticket will ride off into the sunset.
ymmv
The question I want answered before deciding if she is qualified to be Commander In Chief is how many airplanes has she crashed?
ok …2 nutballs…..she might be the next Santorum……..oy
I think we can assume that our Dr. Murphy is going to go nuts over this VP choice. She really hates the environment.
I don’t have a problem with her beliefs but I do have a problem that she wants to dictate her beliefs to me. She had a CHOICE AND SO SHOULD WE. The creationism in science class really bothers me.
Palin and her husband have five children, Bristol, Piper, Track, Willow, and Trig. Her son Track joined the army in 2007.
Mitt and Tagg must be really furious by now.
LOL! Maru! from WTF.
yup
Mhm that’s what I’m thinking. As Bluetoe pointed out earlier… if Huckabee turned him down he would be at a loose end and gettign desperate turned to the first evangelical woman he could find. Rewriting Palin’s bio last night on Wikipedia suggests that they will try to rewrite her history so that she’s one of “the good people.”
The only one I go out of my way to read is Frank Rich.
Rape and pillage the “people’s commons” for corporate gain. Ignore the law in your elected office, lobby for the corporate interests in place of the people’s….
A “Family Values” candidate! Their family, not yours.
Not the Mittster? Darth is so toxic…
“Trig’s Creator
Trig????
Not real important, really, but where did that name come from???
a lot of interesting bits in that article LS:
Alaska Airlines has no such rule and leaves the decision to the woman and her doctor, said spokeswoman Caroline Boren. Palin was very pleasant to the gate agents and flight attendants, as always, Boren said.
“The stage of her pregnancy was not apparent by observation. She did not show any signs of distress,” Boren said.
Palin never got big with this pregnancy. She said she didn’t try to hide it but didn’t feel a need to alert the airline, either.
They landed in Anchorage around 10:30 p.m. Thursday and an hour later were at the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.
Baldwin-Johnson said she had to induce labor, and the baby didn’t come until 6:30 a.m. Friday.
“It was smooth. It was relatively easy,” Palin said. “In fact it was the easiest of all,” probably because Trig was small, at 6 pounds, 2 ounces.
Palin said she wanted him born in Alaska but wouldn’t have risked anyone’s health to make that happen.
“You can’t have a fish picker from Texas,” said Todd.
Palin said she won’t take maternity leave but will go with Trig to doctor’s visits, physical therapy, whatever he needs. She’s breast feeding and plans to bring Trig to work with her, just as she did with Piper.
anyone seen her breastfeeding?
Hilarious blog! Heh, heh.
Rick would want to know just what exactly them Alaskans do with those huskies on them long cold nights up there after a busy day of beating the shit out of them.
I’m here now. Phone ringing off the hook. Good score on the NPR story, Hugh! It hadn’t played yet in Alaska.
McCain’s advisors are on the phone promising Mitt and Pawlenty anything they want. They just wants them to keep their mouths shut.
Have we ever had an election in which everyone at the top of the ticket had five letters in their last name?
McCain
Palin
Obama
Biden
Bristol, Piper, Track, Willow, and Trig.
????
I’m wondering how many pukes will actually show up at the convention…if it even happens.
refresher math student?
They landed in Anchorage around 10:30 p.m. Thursday and an hour later were at the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.
Baldwin-Johnson said she had to induce labor, and the baby didn’t come until 6:30 a.m. Friday.
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this smells like month old salmon imo
Hi, ET! Yor thoughts? (between the ringing phones — g’ahead, we’ll wait. *g*
707
As much as I love the mystery baby angle, does it make sense that a sixteen year old would bear a child with Down’s Syndrome? I thought that happened to much older mothers but I’m no medico, so any thoughts?
The pictures on the NYT site today have been very funny. McC in every one looks as if he is thinking “I will smile, dammit, I will”. Pathetic man.
maybe just brain damaged …drugs…i dont know the fact that she went back to work in 3 daze smellz
The race also shapes up as Western US vs. Eastern US.
AZ + AK
IL + DE
I don’t have a problem with her beliefs. But her beliefs just struck me as odd as she put them into practice in that situation. But that;s OK. There are more serious things wrong with her. More pressing, immediate questions. What was her “talent” when she ran for Miss Alaska?
That’s an issue I would not even touch.
I am not a doctor by any means but my understanding is that while no where near as common an occurrence as it is with older mothers, it does happen.
and no dissing her based on looks or gender. We wouldn’t do that to a dude so don’t do it to her. there is enough to go after her without injecting that junk into it
It’s simply probability. Like in my case , i have AIS which is an intersex disorder. Most people who get it are middle children. Yet, I was a first child and my sister developed completely normally.
Maybe “someone” from Alaska called and said, you better get home fast…
You don’t risk a high risk pregnancy because you want the high risk baby to be born in a State thousands of miles away…do you? Oh yeah, but if you are someone who doesn’t believe in global warming and won’t protect dying and vanishing polar bears, and if you don’t mind killing wolves in a brutal fashion….maybe you just don’t care.
Ya know, there’s plenty not to like about Palin.
Her family life, children, etc?
We’re better than that.
On CBS Evening News their commentator was saying that the social conservatives really like her.
It can happen to anyone at any age, there is just more risk when you are older.
Or better yet:
Fixed
Precisely
But why she supported Buchanan over McCain in 2000 is an interesting question…
one of the seven signs of the Apocalypse
When you’re right you’re right, JP.
Trig-onometry.
named after where they were concieved…
Buchanan:
“She’s a bright and intelligent girl”
Abrams:
A woman of 44 is a “woman”.
We had a discussion of accents here the other day…Is she the way Alaskans sound?
I’m writing up something special for you pups, but I gotta admit Siun, Jane and Christy are doing great. So is Howie.
Buchanan gettin a woody talkin about the brilliance of the hockey mom pick!
Buchanan is saying some of the funniest things I’ve ever heard him say…she’s a governor and a “beauty queen” “what’s wrong with that?”
Bwhahahahah
Seriously?
Hmmm. super-trivial, I know, I know…but it might weigh on the judgment question./s
heh heh no doubt
Oh yeah. That’s why she got chosen. They are hoping her other liabilities wont hurt the ticket. Huckabee definitely would have been better, though. Also Mike Huckabee already had a campaign machine/following up and he would have been a likely VP nominee. I very much think she was at least a third best pick.
FOX SNOOZE botoxbimbo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..lykos.com/
Buchanan keeps sayin “beauty queen” and rubbin himself where he pees.
I ain’t touching that subject ever again, even though I was tempted. *g*
Andrea is all over the “mooseburgers” again….good personal story…
“She’s a libertarian”
Balrog head is soon to explode. McSame certainly chose the right person for MSNBC.
mushrooms?
it is teh weird imo
MSNBC got a little gushy about the dem convention last night- so they have to prove that they love goopers too- so they’re tryin ta breath hard about the Alaska gov.
If ya read between the lines, most of em think it’s the dumbest fuckin move they’ve ever seen.
can you imagine if it was Michelle?
;) I understand; I do not recall the specifics. How about this? Cindy must be ready to really hate her. The young Guv. makes Cindy the skinny blond look really old. (I know, we can’t say that.)
Andrea:
“Is she capable in a minute’s notice to take over as CIC?”
Buchanan:
Well, he is frikkin’ nuts in a handbag.
Romney would have upstaged McSame so I doubt that he was a viable VP choice for Johnny.
Buchanan says that the religious right would WELCOME havin McBush croak and havin the beauty queen take over…funny as hell.
It is! It is a puddy-tat!
And Buchanan is desperately trying to regain his mojo. Not happening.
McCain-Palin, the picture of those two must genuinely reverberate with the repug core, Rich Dirty Old Men and their trophy girlfriends.
Don’t know if this has been linked already, but you really can’t overdo it. Via TPM, a YouTube video of Senator Stevens Endorsing Sarah Palin!!
Yay!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nTX-oJUCaU
Gawd. If McPalin gets elected, I’m leavin’ the country.
whos your daddy
oh shite….i just realized if McDummy croaks …WE GET ANOTHER CHEERLEADER AS cic
I would like to ask other parents of children with downs syndrome, if a parent can do their best for a child like that and still have a career with the demands of a Governor or VP?
Yup. Rove chose a female W.
Oh gawd.. and Pawlenty’s hosting too. This’ll be interesting.
Seems like the fundies don’t much care about anything but the religious issues, abortion, gays, etc. and she seems to pass muster there. But I agree, Huckabee would definitey have been better.
PBS…She does not know the ins and outs of government; Biden will be her biggest challenge.
I heard one religious nut case say that this woman is a great speaker- well maybe so- but based on hearing her voice on teevee today- I’d say that she can shatter glass—
“No NO0 I’ll talk- just don’t make me listen to that woman talk again”!
pbs newshour guy from alaska saying palin has only had weak opponents in the past. that Biden is a whole different ballgame for her.
duh
And why Alaska GOP caucus this year.. voted McCain in last place. Where was Palin then?
a female W …. my thoughts exactly
newshour alaska woman sez palin runs a shoddy ship of state
I wish you hadn’t said that…
he is clueless. sexist pig
Not really, this one actually played ball- and was apparently pretty damned good…Clusterfuck couldn’t find a position on the field that he couldn’t fuck up.
It is an incredible insult to Biden to have to appear in a debate with Palin. He should just decline.
Funny quote from a Wonkette article last March about the Palin pregnancy announcement:
http://wonkette.com/364454/mcc…..s-pregnant
Little did they know. Poked around some sites during this timeframe and every single one os expressing shock about the news, even the wingnut sites, who called the news “weird” and “bizarre.”
If a VP nominee for US Prez is pretending to be pregnant to cover for her teenaged daughter’s pregnancy, isn’t that worth knowing? There is a lot not adding up about the story. Seems worth looking into since she might be one heartbeat away from the most important job in the world.
Obama gave his acceptance speech before 80,000 with a television audience of 38,000,000 and who knows how many listeners on the radio. Today McSame announces his VP choice in a gymnasium with around 10,000 and they had to look under the rug for anyone that wanted to attend. This is shaping up to be a landslide. The Republicans will be forced to crawl away to lick their wounds under bridges where all good trolls and orgres dwell.
Why didn’t McCain choose Huckabee? Did I miss something?
newshour guy sez alaska is awash in oil money, unlike the rest of the country, and tough fiscal choices don’t need to be made there
never underestimate their capacity for winning by lying, cheating and stealing votes. :P
Gallup Daily tracking poll (I know, I know…) has Obama up 49-41, with most interviews conducted before last nite’s extravaganza.
im betting it’s because Huckabee didn’t want to waste his time
Plus, (PBS) lack of communication and not hands on. Most identified with prolife, aware of what average AMericans are doing, Practical conversative; she’s never faced a challenge like this and does not know what she’s up against. Steep learning curve on national issues….Oh, this sounds promising.
He is a very stupid man, and Rove is calling the shots. McCain is not in control at all. The neocons are trying to set up a puppet government in our country, so that they can continue their agenda.
Good idea.
That’s ridiculous — she defeated a sitting governor in a primary!
Huckabee didn’t have enough experience to become president if and when McBush croaks.
My overall impression is that the Republican short list was longer than expected.
All of the better choices decided to spend more time with their families for the next 3 years.
That’s a ten point “bounce” so far- not bad and there is probably a bit more to come. Important that he’s closing in on breaking the 50% barrier.
How can Palin attack Obama? I mean the attack line was lack of experience so what now?
True- of course he was sittin on the electric chair- but what the hell- a win’s a win.
i’m sick of all these white guys talkin about women voters and what they think
they don’t know squat
She’ll attack him for not bein close enough to Jesus.
Told ya Darth aint leaving
She has no talent. IMO they have to hit hard on creationism as a science.
brooks sez she’s a global warming devotee, ‘talks about it a lot’, that this balances her drill drill drill
quoi?
John McCain was a POW.
McBush picked the beauty queen because she was the only one on the list who he didn’t HATE!
NPR says she is more progressive on gays, global warming (I guess than on choice).
David did not mention that she does not believe that global warming is not man made.
Rove did this in order to put Biden in a bind, i.e., to make him look like an attack bully and mean to women in the debate…because Biden is what the pukes are afraid of..he is the challenge to their main theme…that Obama has no foreign policy experience. Rove knows that the average person tuning in to the debates will be pretty clueless and will go with the person who is attractive and the one they sympathize with. That is what this is about.
only met her ONCE……………………….wait
They lie.
that won’t play to the independents
Course not—Global warming was made by God- and it would be sacreligious for Man to interfere with it.
That is the best rationale I’ve heard since she was announced.
debate on the merits…PRACTICE with your wife Joe……dont lose it…SMILE alot
Question Was being the mayor of a town w/ 5700 people a full time job?
707!!
Well she had a second job- Hockey Mom!
I’m not worried at all. I have a feeling that Obama’s campaogn figured for this as a scenario. I’m gonna sit back and watch this play out
first 707 in a long time….g
ROTFLMAO
you’re right
one can only hope people out there can tune in to their better angels in november.
one can only hope
Rove is like Uncle Ernie in the Tommy opera
Huckabee is too well known as a fundie and though the base would have loved him, independents already know too much about him.
Palin gives them someone the base knows and seems to love without all the baggage that the Huck brought.
dont forget the PTA
“i know you won’t see or hear me as i fiddle about, fiddle about, fiddle about…”
nasty piece o work
My daughter dissed her on her looks. And I’ve dissed Jindal and Pawlenty on their looks. And Obama looks goofy, too. Her looks are fair game,. I say.
I love the irony of the choice of Palin.
Real PUMAs are so rare they might as well be on the endangered species list. But the Republicans believe their own PR spin so much, they made a PUMA driven political choice which will backfire in terms of actually delivering votes.
She says she was coaching basketball too- hell- that’s a LOT—who is to say that these are not good qualifications for leading the nation into thermonuclear war?
I thought she was backing a referendum against same sex marriage. And how can you really want to do something about global warming when your state depends on oil revenues and don’t give a shit about its effects on polar bears?
It is a really dumb move. As the Obama campaign said, a gift.
I hope this daughter story is true, and that it was her baby. Rachel said she gave a speech after her water broke, and she then flew back to Alaska to give birth.
Hopefully somebody in the Obama campaign introduces her to the public but you know the repubs will talk about how moderate she is.
more folks watched obama than the opening of olympics or finale of american idol.
curiosity… that is a hopeful sign
Thanks for your comment. Just wanted you do know that I’ve read. You might find this older FDL thread interesting, in terms of the level of discussion:
click here
You guys, really.
If you want to talk politics, that one thing. I think that’s why a lot of people read this blog.
If you just want to Dish…wow…that say’s alot.
:(
I’d say she LOOKS fine- but she sounds like a scratchy 78 rpm record bein played at 156 rpm
I respectfully disagree. its not okay even if a woman does it to another woman. To denote a person’s worth or boil it down to their looks or referring to them as a beauty queen or cheerleader is demeaning. (My opinion totally)
She says that lots of her best friends are gays – she just doesn’t want em fuckin!
SUMGAYIT, AZERBAIJAN
Potentially Affected People: 275,000
Type of Pollutants: Organic chemicals, oil, heavy metals including mercury.
Source of Pollution: Petrochemical and Industrial Complexes
The Problem:
Sumgayit was a major Soviet industrial center housing more than 40 factories manufacturing industrial and agricultural chemicals. These included synthetic rubber, chlorine, aluminium, detergents, and pesticides. While the factories remained fully operational, 70-120,000 tons of harmful emissions were released into the air annually. With the emphasis placed on maximum, low-cost production at the expense of environmental and occupational health and safety, industry has left the city heavily contaminated. Factory workers and residents of the city have been exposed to a combination of high-level occupational and environmental pollution problems for several decades.
Untreated sewage and mercury-contaminated sludge (from chlor-alkali industries) continue to be dumped haphazardly. A continuing lack of pollution controls, dated technologies and the improper disposal and treatment of accumulated industrial waste are just some of the issues that plague the city.
Health Impacts:
Sumgayit had one of the highest morbidity rates during the Soviet Era and the legacy of illness and death persist. A study jointly conducted by the UNDP, WHO, Azerbaijan Republic Ministry of Health and the University of Alberta demonstrated that residents of Sumgayit experience intensely high levels of both cancer morbidity and mortality. Cancer rates in Sumgayit are 22-51% higher than average incidence rates in the rest of Azerbaijan. Mortality rates from cancer are 8% higher. Evidence suggests that lower reported cancer rates are flawed as a result of underreporting.
A high percentage of babies are born premature, stillborn, and with genetic defects like Mongolism, anencephaly, spina bifida, hydrocephalus, bone disease, and mutations such as club feet, cleft palate, and four or six fingers or toes.
Link
http://www.boingboing.net/2007…..llute.html
Mongolism is an old term for Down’s Syndrome
That is good advice. Biden has a really great smile.
wow, That’s big. was msnbc saying more people watched them than fox?
and how many houses does this lady own? or do we have to resolve the baby question before we get to that?
Can you tell me what PUMA stands for? Thanks
if the shoe fits
Ok How do we tell a Downs Syndrome mother tactfully that by fighting to defeat a Clean Water ballot measure this summer Palin may have been defending the polluters that hurt her child?
Time to bid this lot, adieu
got that from pBS newshour just now
i agree. what is this “snark tag” of which i hear? I don;t think it should be part of the discourse, but in personal conversations candidates appearances — maler= and female – come up all the time.
Party Unity My Ass
ya killin me again
She is lovely but as I said earlier today, I don’t think most people in the lower 48 would know who she is.
“Party Unity My Ass” The Clinton delegates and voters who would supposedly not back Obama.
As we saw, the party was pretty damn friendly and unified.
In fact this is the view I’ve heard from religious fundamentalists – not worried about global warming – they believe in man’s ability (god given) to sort everything out – and they believe that god will make sure everything is A -OK.
party unity my ass
Ha! Don’t talk for Jesus, fool.
Oh, you meant hypothetically, or just sayin’.
Right?
Few have mentioned her academic qualifications- BA from University of Idaho- in JOURNALISM…put that in yer pipe and smoke it!
Somebody has tried to clean it up but the original definition was
PUMA = Party Unity My A**.
Basically Republican trolls and operatives trying to sabotage the Dems. The irony is the Republicans really DO have a PUMA problem but with Ron Paul voters.
oy
Fiddle….Fiddle….Fiddle…
people read this blog for a lot of reasons. Sometimes, like a Friday night, when so much in the world sucks, we read it for comraderie and some laughs.
and #1 on the ticket graduated 5 from the bottom in a class of almost a thousand
Residential Exposure to Petrochemicals and the Risk of Leukemia: Using Geographic Information System Tools to Estimate Individual-Level Residential Exposure
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/…../164/3/200
Robin Bush died of leukemia
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-…..GRid=21590
well said,and last nite a few tears
But McCain is a POW. She gave a great speech if she were in front of the Rotary. Biden is so respectful of females but I still think that he needs to practice with a cheerleader.
yea,and Mom and Dad went golfing the day they burried her
hehe. Just spoke with my father, an old-style Reagan conservative and Republican. …says he’s not impressed by “that girl”.. says that the VPship is a job for “real men”… says he probably won’t vote for the ticket. so much for making good with the base.
What did McBush major in? Cluster bombing?
and his wife…he can do it…stick to the facts and smmmmmmmmmmmmmmile a mile
She would have wanted them to enjoy themselves.
tits and ass i here tell
Oh my goodness, the amount of serious commenters here who do not know the difference between Cougars and PUMAs, to this time and date of posts.
Rock. Climb out of…..
Hope so. She is so wacky. Pawlenty is now talking about her being a hockey mom.
yeah. The painful resurgence of hope for the future.
Well then- why did he score so badly? Just didn’t have the knack?
you just couldnt write the scripts any better…and Grand dad HITLERS BANKER
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
i will always wonder what Cindy saw in that old has been…mebbe daddy made her do it
You talking about the wrinkly white-haired dude?
(h/t Paris Hilton)
Bob in HI
Tweety sayin that he made a mistake sayin that Collin and Condi were “showcase appointments”. He says “No one doubts that Rice is Bush’s number one foreign policy advisor….
Funny as hell…Cheney’s gonna shoot Tweety in the face.
My opinion is that McBush didn’t take advantage of Cindy and family- the ol man took advantage of McBush—
“Hey here’s a guy with admirals as father and grandfather who’s a fuckin war hero– let’s turn him into a family “get out of jail” card.
I can’t wait to read all the rest of the comments– so, did Mom arrange to give birth to her daughter’s child, to protect the daughter???
Inquiring minds want to know, y’know.
Bob in HI
Most new moms or moms to be of kids with special needs read up on everything they can get on babies and special needs babies.
My comments at 248,253 and 270 were the result of Googling Downs Syndrome and Petrochemicals and then Googling Leukemia and Petrochemicals.
High School and College Biology one class each led to that obvious search.
Now how does Palin justify not supporting clean water I’m sure mining runoff can produce the same effects or worse depending on what they are mining and how they are mining it.
Hard Core emotional denial of grief or maybe they don’t have emotions?
Damm I agree with what Tweety said…the first time.
Prolly from “Trigonometry”, referring to the triangulation that you’d have to do to figure out who the real parents are.
Bob in HI
Anybody brought up that wacky Idaho Congresswoman from a few years back? That’s where Palin’s from. Birds of a feather.
You don’t mean “wide stance”? He’s a senator.
possibly…why yes
i vote for the latter
Hi Dawgies!
Gone all day, trying to recycle 40 yrs worth of accumulated treasures (heh) into loving homes.
No time even to read comments till later, but has anyone suggested watching Cindy’s face closely, really really. If there’s an expert among this mishmash of repugcandydacy, it might be Cindy.
rodeo queen follows handicapped former spouse.
does one spring for one more face lift, or…
Forget I ever said a thing. It’s been a long day. I’m tired.
That ak.us linky is not responding. Is history being rewritten?
WEDGE ISSUE ABORTION BACK IN THE CENTER OF THE TABLE.
puma
so the minor confusion is understandable
Too bad ‘Country first, my ass” doesn’t make a cute acronym cuz choosing Palin says John McCain puts himself first while endangering all of America.
Right after the leaks of her announcement yesterday, I went to wiki and found her described as “the hot governor of Alaska” in the very first line, and similar other additions throughout the page.
By the time I had logged in to edit the adjectives, someone else had already done it.
I see today that wiki has a semi-protection lock on her entry. I would be interesting to find out how much of the vandalism was from .gov sites.