Katrina vanden heuvel is talking BOUT Palin on Bill Moyers here in Maine.

Called Palin ferocious

Katrina!!

Well, it’s a Bold And Exciting pick, in much the same way that punting on first down is a Bold And Exciting football strategy.

hahahahha
good one Eli

Basically, she’s the Same Old Conservatism in a shiny new wrapper.

Hi Eli!

people need to be talkin about Carol Mosely Braun and Palin comparison??

or going for a safety….”g”

her fracas w/the attempted firing of her ex-brother-in-law from the state troopers prove that, tho she may have more “executive” experience than obama (as the hardly-ever-right is suggesting), she is quite incompetent in that role. my editorial at skippy.

worse, rumor has it that her youngest baby is actually her daughter’s child. her daughter was pulled out of school for 5 months before the baby was born. see the moderate voice for details.

(granted, that’s just a nasty rumor, but seeing as how she’s a ‘values’ candidate, i think it appropriate to explore. if i offend anyone by bringing it up, i apologize in advance.)

“how white Palin’s crowd was” Katrina sez

A party of whitei america

ooooo

i wanna know if Katrina vanden heuvel dies her hair

Republicans are very big on safety.

Eli, the repiglicans have just written off 2008.

Hi Eli!

Somewhere today I read that she fired everybody when she took office as either mayor or governator to test their loyalty.

Such a sweet thing.

Biden should clean her clock or whatever the saying is….because she’s mean.

Repulicans - the party of racists and white supremacists.

They exploit their token oreos like condi and colin… sellouts to their race… for money and power.

what channel are we watching?

“I guess he assumes that women will just blindly vote for anyone with a vagina” — nope..it’s not the vagina, Eli..it’s having ovaries AND a uterous and knowing how to use ‘em. That’s all that counts, obviously. And from McCain’s perspective, that is also what constitutes ‘being female’ - so since I had a hysterectomy last year, I’m not longer female. He also seems to believe that HRC’s passionate(and perhaps really pissed off)supporters only got on the bandwagon because she and they are female also. All that counts is the equipment…this has got to be the most insulting thing I’ve ever seen. Yes, part of what attracted people(men and women) to the HRC campaign was the excitement of supporting the first female presidential contender. But most of it, IMHO, had to do with the connection people felt with HRC herself(and yes I know that there are a lot of folks here on the beach who frankly would have burned HRC at the stake, with or without gasoline). AND that is something that McCain is not going to be able to generate for his campaign by dragging out ‘an empty bra’ and attaching it to his ticket. He’ll have better chances gaining supoprters from the far right religious groups(except for those who believe that women should stay home once they have kids).

I sure hope so. I always worry that there’s some kind of hidden stroke of genius or ratfuck strategy that I’m missing.

But I really do think it’s as simple as trying to appeal to the religious right, women, and the media.

she is the c***** he has been looking for

She is W…how the heck did Rove figure that out…the guy’s good.

Hey Eli, fine, funny piece once again. Hope all is well with you and yours.

Ah, but that’s only half the equation. The other half is that any time we attack one of their tokens, they launch into insincere hissy fits about what racist/sexist/homophobic hypocrites we are.

also…she didn’t really oppose the bridge to nowhere until it was obvious that it wasn’t going to get federal funding…the plank.

Because that is what they are…Rovian tactics.

Thanks, Quebecois! We’re good, hope you and yours are as well.

Thanks Eli. She sounds emminently qualified for the job (rethug tool). Monica Goodling’s qualifications were at least as strong.

I’m as confused as you are Eli maybe someone wiser than both of us can explain it.
Or at least explain the flawed logic behind the distorted Worldview/Zeitgeist that thought Palin as VP would help McCain.
After all McCain’s 30%ers really don’t think women should work outside the home, and never at a job that pays more than her husband.

she really sounds like she has ADD,mother governor ,canidate soccer mom,religious nutcase,fishes on the commercial boats…just tie a broom to her ass

With all those bullet points, Eli, one could be led to believe that McSFB picked her to take some of the heat of off his negatives. Even the local Rethug rubes, Prof Darrell Paulson of USF St Pete in particular, are locked onto the picking up the disgruntled Hillary supporters and PUMAs. I know these people are paying attention but they’re gonna hang onto that disgruntled Hillary voters meme forevah.

PBS in maine

bill moyers journal

and it’s pretty interesting

Geez — did you really need the “with boobs”? I get you’re being snarky, but some of us with boobs find that shorthand really off-puttng, and is that what you want for someone to take away?

Gee Why do you care?

Great post, Eli. Thanks for collecting all this.

Here’s another great quote from the article sadlyyes linked to in the last thread:

House Speaker John Harris, a Republican from Valdez, was also astonished at the news. He didn’t want to get into the issue of her qualifications.

“She’s old enough,” Harris said. “She’s a U.S. citizen.”

The whole article should be read. The quote from Green is just killer.

thanks for this info Eli, i sent it along to my dem employed daughter in her godforsaken red district in maine

How did she get past the GOP VP vetting process?

cause i’m basically a shallow person?

ya mean this

This is classic:

State Senate President Lyda Green said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to tell her the news.

“She’s not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? said Green, a Republican from Palin’s hometown of Wasilla. “Look at what she’s done to this state. What would she do to the nation?”

http://www.adn.com/news/politics/story/510249.html

I don’t really see that working. She’s magnified the negative of McCain’s age, partially neutralized his bogus environmentalist cred, and almost totally neutralized the inexperience line of attack against Obama (although I expect they’ll continue using it anyway).

I guess he assumes that women will just blindly vote for anyone with a vagina

ooooooo - I’m telling Jaaaaaaaane!!!

Palin’s brother in law is a wife-beating-child-abuser, no one like that belongs in law enforcement. It should not have taken action on the part of the Gov to get someone like that fired. Any director of public safety who lacks the sense of decency to fire someone like that needs to be fired themselves.

If Obama or his blogger boyz make an issue out of this they will regret it. It is explosive and Democrats cannot stay far enough away from this. Gov. Palin did right. She may be an anti-science right wing nut, but that Dir of Public Safety urgently needed to lose that job.

I wasn’t offended.

I was looking at her election record and realized she has received in her political lifetime, a total of 188,125 votes. 909 votes for mayor, 21,076 as Lt. Governor, in the primary for Governor she got 51,443, and as Governor, 114,697. Thats some experience changing numbers there, certainly worthy of the second highest elected office in civilization dontcha think?. This woman is the Sally Fields of politics, she may start off strong, but she will end up with her foot in her mouth by the time its over.

Palin, in an interview in 2007, said she really wasn’t paying attention to Iraq. Said she was too busy with state business.

Yes, I didn’t want to steal your thunder. That one should be a full page ad in the WaPoo. Thanks for finding and sharing it.

her belief in creationism,totally disqualifys her for International politics imo

i think you’re right about that. she will put her foot in it eventually. inexperienced.

biden may do the same but folks will forgive him. they usually do

please…the more the merrier,feel free to pile on…”g”

Shuster is all over it….interviewing the public safety commissioner she fired….reminds me of Siegelman…

Hmmmmm.

Also, I personally think this has been in the plans for a long time.

Hmmmm…

Dots to connect.

couldn’t agree more. I’m looking forward to an intelligent, measured argument about that.

Also, I personally think this has been in the plans for a long time.

Plz explain.

she is a nasty barracuda

the McNasty Barracuddas ….has a ring to it

GE TV has Shuster reporting on the Palin-Troopergate caper.

So….why would Rove want McInsane to choose Palin….

Oil, oil, oil.

Who was in the way????

Was there a concocted story to get rid of him via the troopergate story???

There’s there there, I think.

can you imagine the possibilities……………..twisting my pearls and licking my lips

Can’t call someone a maverick who picks a running mate based on some list of extreme right-wing values deemed necessary by Grover Norquist and Karl Rove.

Way to cave to the far right again, McCain.

Cleanup on Aisle 39

puppet,puppet,puppet…Darth is the regent

Jumping in. Schuster is all over the Alaska Governor’s involvement in firing her ex-brother-in-law.

too late it pooooed on the floor

Hi, Eli. Good post. Yes, the part about the sexual harrasser and being a real republican is spot on. These days, whenever I meet new people, I’ll try to turn the conversation to the campaigns, to get a feel for the other person’s leanings. Then I’ll ask if they’re a Republican, I state that there are three branches of the party these days, and I ask which branch they’re in: the branch that sends other people’s children to die in wars based on lies; or the sexual pervert/deviant branch; or the child molester branch. That usually gets the conversation off to a good start.

i bet she wasnt vetted at all

How many divorced men have been accused of something similar by their wives calling in to work, school,friends, relatives, the police etc.
She is the Gov of Alaska if she had proof he would be doing serious time. But just making allegations can still affect things like child visits.
Palin went outside of the legal system to seek redress for her sister’s complaint which is something we have had enough of out of Darth’s VP ship.
Now if she had sent her husband to “talk” to the guy I would have no problem with her keeping the problem in the family.

Can I stand next to you at parties?

Does anyone know how many electoral votes Alaska has?

Ok there that makes sense.

THREE! Count ‘em Three.

But her husband meeting — privately in the governor’s office while she was out of town — with the director of public safety isn’t the way government should be conducted. This isn’t really about whatever charges were raised in a custody hearing. It’s about whether Governor Palin abused her power to fire someone who wouldn’t appropriately discipline a subordinate in a custody dispute with a family member.

MSNBC’s David Shuster is all over this; it won’t require any investigation by “the blogger boyz” or the Obama campaign.

But what about the branch that believes in sacrificing the country and the world’s well-being to make a quick buck? Or the branch that believes that only straight married people should have sex, and even then only for procreation not recreation?

he met her once,who did the vetting?

The nicest man I ever knew was accused by his wife & mother of their severely ADD child of molesting their son. Not even close to true; she did it just to get more dough using the poor child as the pawn.

i bet she wasnt vetted at all

Republicans have never cared about vets.

I’m guessing that Bushco told her to get rid of the Public Safety Commissioner (like Siegelman) in order to make way for “something” they wanted to do…so they concocted the trooper crappola….

Then, they promised her the VP slot…

Something like that….

Something stinks.

Skippy, that is really bizarre. I hope for all their sakes that it isn’t true. I expect if that’s true they’re hoping that there’s never any call for genetic testing such as what would be needed for organ or bone marrow donation.

I’m also forcibly reminded that Ted Bundy, the serial killer, spent the first few years of his life thinking that his grandparents were his mother and father, and that his mother was his sister.

This may be one of the first times that Rove and I agree. Just replace Kaine with Palin, and see if you don’t agree too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....215;177694

Heh..only if you leave a little room for me.

you are in good form tonight …..huzzzzzzzzzah

Perhaps I should have used a snark tag. The second part, however, is telling. Three local people, the aforementioned Paulson, a Rethug strategist and a member of the Tampa Tribune editorial board all brought up the disgruntled Hillary supporters. This on our local PBS “Florida This Week” program. Granted, there are some of those out there but I don’t think the number is significant in regards to the general. None of the usual Rethug gushing or that nonsense. Just the picking up the disgruntled HRC supporters meme. All three did, however, say how powerful, great, etc, Obama’s speech was. They see the writing on the wall. It’s about time.

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Eric Clapton too. His sister was his mother.

That works for me. Upward and onward, McC !

you so smart
and made McDummy swallow

What if the puppy gets sick?

See, that’s where Venn diagrams come in handy.

Yes they do… They want to make as many as they can, Eli! ‘Course once they make ‘em, they leave ‘em high and dry…! ;-)

I think it would be totally hilarious if McCain made a disastrous VP pick based on his own party’s invention.

The more I hear about Troopergate the more it becomes obvious that McCain did not vet her. She lied in her public statements (as she lied today about the bridge to nowhere) about the matter so who knows what she is covering up.

I am even thinking that McCain may wind up having to revoke her nomination.

Oh, baby, oh, baby. *g*

I am even thinking that McCain may wind up having to revoke her nomination.

Got popcorn??

Nah, they’re Republicans, they’ll try to brazen it out like they always do.

Reminds me a bit of when Delay called the FAA to find out where the dem state congress people went, when they were trying to push through the redistricting, and then had the state troopers go get them back. I agree, something stinks. I hate feeling like there’s always some devious underlying reason why they do things. But, usually there is some devious underlying reason. ’sigh’

It kinda makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

It’s like Eli says: McCain and his people are such cynical dorks that they figure all women, especially Hillary supporters, will mindlessly vote for anyone with a vagina - even if that person has openly mocked Hillary and accused her of ‘whining’.
Speaking as a woman, this really ticks me off.

ok if she is preggers here ,it was a babby Panda

http://themoderatevoice.com/wo.....Months.jpg

But that would be bad for Obama, the MSM would report.

Yup. Mr. LS just said the same thing.

Dig, dig, dig…there’s there there.

So who would be behind door #2?

that pic was Feb,she gave birth a month and a half later

i cry bullllllllllkakkkkky

OT: Waht do you make of Charlie Crist picking (4) Florida Supreme Ct. Justices? The first one’s claim to fame is that he was instrumental in the Bill Clinton Take down. Three more picks to go. Its an outrage and nobody seems to be batting an eye.

the biggest concern for the alaskan governor now seems to be the fact that, while her aide frank bailey insists he was acting w/o her knowledge when he called the public safety commission to get palin’s ex-brother-in-law, mike wooten, fired from the state troopers, palin has only suspended bailey, with pay, as a result.

http://xnerg.blogspot.com/2008.....ooten.html

Palin can’t claim she was acting to protect her sister when her aid is taking the blame with pay.
But the Public Safety Commissioner however is gone not suspended with pay.
If Palin’s story is she is protecting her sister she should admit it take the blame and move on.
Trying to avoid blame but use her sister as an excuse is the worse of both worlds.

I’m still convinced the whole PUMA schtick is just phase two of Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos. He sent lots of rethugs to vote for Clinton in the primaries and now they can “claim” to be so upset about how things turned out that they will vote for McCain. They were just gaming the primary and found a way to keep the game going. These people were going to vote for the rethug nominee all along. None of them were real Democrats and that’s why nobody could find a real PUMA in Denver.

And there are no legal ways to deal with a wife-beating child abuser? Most people don’t have the option of phoning a family member for a high-level political favor.

I liked Rachael Maddow’s take on Countdown. She also explains how the investigation of Palin’s actions came about and that it’s costing the States millions of dollars.

Frankly, if the McBush surrogates want to keep dragging out Rezko, Palin is more than fair game.

FunnyD

cant…if she was lying about the pregnancy

A pick that might not survive until the convention opens, if the investigations into her corruption bear any fruit. The media isn’t gonna let this slide this weekend; they are bitter about getting blindsided. And their favorites weren’t chosen. They wouldn’t mind taking Palin down.

Hmmmm….via wiretap….we know what’s going on Governor…it would be very embarrassing to everyone….here’s what we want you to do, and there will be a great reward for you…

my opine…
the Denver dem convention…FREAKED THEIR ASSES OUT

ELI …they punted Mittens and Pawlenty

She wouldn’t lie, he was a POW.

from the story that pic is attached to:

the oldest girl is rumored to have actually been the one who had the last baby, the one with Down’s Syndrome. She was taken out of school the last 4 or 5 months of her mother’s pregnancy. On March 5th, 2008 Alaska’s Republican Governor, Sarah Palin, announced to the media that she was 7 months pregnant with her 5th child. She is currently 44. Palin’s daughter Bristol is 16 and attends an Anchorage high school. Students who have attended class with her report that she has been out of school for months, claiming a prolonged case of mono. Palin does not appear pregnant in any recent photographs. The announcement came as quite a shock to people who had worked closely with her, and have been quoted as saying that she did not appear pregnant whatsoever during the prior 7 months. While this is debatable, you can judge for yourself here: http://gov.state.ak.us/photos.php

That’s right. He had a really messed-up life, the details of which he lays out in unflinching prose. His autobiography is harrowing.

did you see her Feb.photo…..physical impossibility that she was 6 month pregnant….IMPOSSIBLE

You got that right.

I must say that I’m intrigued with the choice of Palin.
I’ve been ruminating on Robert Dreyfus’s article in The Nation pondering whether McCain is the Antichrist according to scholarly religious study.
If he is the McAntichrist…is she the female counterpart as a wolf killing,polar bear killing,moose killing, pristine environment killing accessory?! A mother so hell bent that she’d compromise her newborn for the Glory of the Nation?
Yowser!!!
Too bad Monica Goodling has been compromised. She would have made an awesome assistant…and cute, with a feminine voice as well,…

I must tell happy stories about the obama speech, sorry to go a smidge off topic

most people know I had an uncomfortable expeience with my childhood friends, most democtats, who “had to see a debate” and were “afraid of obama”

as I explained in the past, that ws bigotry plain and simple, they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for the black guy and they didn’t want to admit even to themselves that is the reason they were even considering mccain

I have to say, everyone of these friends who saw that obama speech is now back to being a democrat

kudos to obama, very very nice

this is just BIZZARO

Do you think GE, Viacom, Disney and Murdoch would begin to take Palin down without receiving Rove’s order first? I don’t.

Do you actually think the MSM would take a Repug down…? C’mon, Teddy! Although they might be disgruntled, surely they’ll get over it since IOKIYAR mentality still pervades…

Shuster said Little Boots will be too busy to speak at the convention
how conveinent

Shuster says they are so worried about the hurricane that they may cancel Bush’s speech at gooperville!

And I wouldn’t mind them taking Palin down. Backtracking on the running mate would be an unrecoverable error, IMHO.