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		<title>By: BitterScribe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1602461</link>
		<dc:creator>BitterScribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Meh. Nuts to Humphrey. He was nominated in 1968 despite winning not one single primary, and he supported the war.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, he was fine on civil rights, but he was from &lt;em&gt;Minnesota.&lt;/em&gt; It’s not as dangerous as being from, say, Texas.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh. Nuts to Humphrey. He was nominated in 1968 despite winning not one single primary, and he supported the war.</p>
<p>Yes, he was fine on civil rights, but he was from <em>Minnesota.</em> It’s not as dangerous as being from, say, Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: brodie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1602045</link>
		<dc:creator>brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Knut, I agree Dems should have rallied to HHH’s side in 68, especially after he’d begun to show some signs of distancing himself from his boss’ War approach — the alternative of Nixon was just too awful to accept.  Alas, for many, especially the McCarthy faction and McCarthy himself, HHH’s small steps in Sept and Oct were too little too late.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Humphrey though should have pushed harder about the War and basically challenged Lyndon to adapt to the compromise peace plank agreed to by HHH and the Kennedy and McCarthy factions, though for sure that might have put his nom at risk.  Instead, he caved in as Lyndon ramrodded through the more hawkish plank.  Not challenging Lyndon at the convention was a big mistake, and the nomination he got, with all the hawkishness it brought with it and the bad relations with the liberal wing, was a serious handicap going into the fall.  HHH also angered the antiwar wing of the party when he publicly embraced Dick Daley’s police thugs.  A wimpy and stupid response.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the end, Humphrey, though he’d been strong on CR years earlier,  just didn’t have the internal fortitude to stand up and draw a line in the sand when it mattered.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knut, I agree Dems should have rallied to HHH’s side in 68, especially after he’d begun to show some signs of distancing himself from his boss’ War approach — the alternative of Nixon was just too awful to accept.  Alas, for many, especially the McCarthy faction and McCarthy himself, HHH’s small steps in Sept and Oct were too little too late.</p>
<p>Humphrey though should have pushed harder about the War and basically challenged Lyndon to adapt to the compromise peace plank agreed to by HHH and the Kennedy and McCarthy factions, though for sure that might have put his nom at risk.  Instead, he caved in as Lyndon ramrodded through the more hawkish plank.  Not challenging Lyndon at the convention was a big mistake, and the nomination he got, with all the hawkishness it brought with it and the bad relations with the liberal wing, was a serious handicap going into the fall.  HHH also angered the antiwar wing of the party when he publicly embraced Dick Daley’s police thugs.  A wimpy and stupid response.</p>
<p>In the end, Humphrey, though he’d been strong on CR years earlier,  just didn’t have the internal fortitude to stand up and draw a line in the sand when it mattered.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1601933</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yupper.  Especially since the main reason we were in ‘Nam past ‘68 is because Nixon sent Anna Chennault to Paris to make sure the Peace Talks went down in flames.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the Peace Talks had succeeded, either LBJ or HHH would have run for and won a second term, the Great Society would have been consolidated instead of attacked, and we’d be a lot better off.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yupper.  Especially since the main reason we were in ‘Nam past ‘68 is because Nixon sent Anna Chennault to Paris to make sure the Peace Talks went down in flames.</p>
<p>If the Peace Talks had succeeded, either LBJ or HHH would have run for and won a second term, the Great Society would have been consolidated instead of attacked, and we’d be a lot better off.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1601861</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, both Hubert and LBJ were wrong on Vietnam.  They had a lot of company — including the whole of the Republican Party, which if you will remember sent Anna Chan Chennault to Paris in 1968 to sabotage the Peace Talks for fear that peace in Vietnam would allow LBJ to remain in office and continue with his Great Society programs.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember, this was the decade of the Cuban Missile Crisis, and Fidel was PISSED that Nikita didn’t respond with nukes against DC.  It was easy for most people to expect the worst of Ho Chi Minh’s crew, not realizing that they were angels compared to Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge (with whom Kissinger happily worked).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, both Hubert and LBJ were wrong on Vietnam.  They had a lot of company — including the whole of the Republican Party, which if you will remember sent Anna Chan Chennault to Paris in 1968 to sabotage the Peace Talks for fear that peace in Vietnam would allow LBJ to remain in office and continue with his Great Society programs.  </p>
<p>Remember, this was the decade of the Cuban Missile Crisis, and Fidel was PISSED that Nikita didn’t respond with nukes against DC.  It was easy for most people to expect the worst of Ho Chi Minh’s crew, not realizing that they were angels compared to Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge (with whom Kissinger happily worked).</p>
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		<title>By: citizensue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1601854</link>
		<dc:creator>citizensue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Take note, knuckledraggers… the style of architechture featuring columns has been the feature of public buildings around the world for centuries. In the great republics of the world they do not represent the Gods, but rather the temples of Democracy. Open any book on our great capital and you will see columns on almost all of our great public buildings, as you will on court houses and state houses accross the country. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This  is the most stupid and desperate angle of attack yet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take note, knuckledraggers… the style of architechture featuring columns has been the feature of public buildings around the world for centuries. In the great republics of the world they do not represent the Gods, but rather the temples of Democracy. Open any book on our great capital and you will see columns on almost all of our great public buildings, as you will on court houses and state houses accross the country. </p>
<p>This  is the most stupid and desperate angle of attack yet.</p>
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		<title>By: jaango</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1601837</link>
		<dc:creator>jaango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Attaturk, an excellent post.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am a Chicano from the Sonoran Desert, as well as a Vietnam War Vet.  Thus, I ascribe to Humility since that is the fundamental principle and guide for my membership in the slow-walk “maturation for moderation” Club.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Long story short, after my discharge from the military, I attended college.  My older brother, a Navy vet, was busy acquiring his graduate degree at Antioch, Ohio, and if you know anything about Antioch, it was the ‘platform’ for what is now embedded into our institutions for higher learning and in particular, classes in “community service”.  Thus, I took a class in “community service” and which led to my better integration and engagement into the world around me. Thusly, I became part of the leadership cabal that over a span of years, ‘reconstituted’ the Maricopa County Community College Distric here in Arizona, and the second largest educational systemic in America.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And having grown up as a migrant worker and familiar with Cesar Chavez, the United Farmworkers and Saul Alinsky’s guiding principles for community organizing, thusly, my ‘connection’ of experiences amply helped me develop my “expertise” for Survival and Success, and which continues to this day.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, I can look back fondly at America’s world of 35 years ago, and know that I have helped over the intervening years, hundreds of thousands of my fellow citizens in many ways, both for the subtle and the nuance.  Thus, I was an intergral part of a cabal known famously as the Tyranny of the Dull that out-competed and out-hustled another cabal of the Tyranny of the Dull or the Status Quo to achieve this Success for Shaping Our Future Together. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Consequently, change is generically unwelcomed by the many, and yet, America has changed for the better, and folks like Hubert Humphrey is to be accorded the appropriate Kudos for his self-enlightenment.  In short, he and many of the like-minded for Humility, helped my achieve my Humility.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And it doesn’t get any better than that!  And thinking otherwise is for amateurs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jaango&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attaturk, an excellent post.  </p>
<p>I am a Chicano from the Sonoran Desert, as well as a Vietnam War Vet.  Thus, I ascribe to Humility since that is the fundamental principle and guide for my membership in the slow-walk “maturation for moderation” Club.</p>
<p>Long story short, after my discharge from the military, I attended college.  My older brother, a Navy vet, was busy acquiring his graduate degree at Antioch, Ohio, and if you know anything about Antioch, it was the ‘platform’ for what is now embedded into our institutions for higher learning and in particular, classes in “community service”.  Thus, I took a class in “community service” and which led to my better integration and engagement into the world around me. Thusly, I became part of the leadership cabal that over a span of years, ‘reconstituted’ the Maricopa County Community College Distric here in Arizona, and the second largest educational systemic in America.  </p>
<p>And having grown up as a migrant worker and familiar with Cesar Chavez, the United Farmworkers and Saul Alinsky’s guiding principles for community organizing, thusly, my ‘connection’ of experiences amply helped me develop my “expertise” for Survival and Success, and which continues to this day.  </p>
<p>Today, I can look back fondly at America’s world of 35 years ago, and know that I have helped over the intervening years, hundreds of thousands of my fellow citizens in many ways, both for the subtle and the nuance.  Thus, I was an intergral part of a cabal known famously as the Tyranny of the Dull that out-competed and out-hustled another cabal of the Tyranny of the Dull or the Status Quo to achieve this Success for Shaping Our Future Together. </p>
<p>Consequently, change is generically unwelcomed by the many, and yet, America has changed for the better, and folks like Hubert Humphrey is to be accorded the appropriate Kudos for his self-enlightenment.  In short, he and many of the like-minded for Humility, helped my achieve my Humility.</p>
<p>And it doesn’t get any better than that!  And thinking otherwise is for amateurs.</p>
<p>Jaango</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1601833</link>
		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Norske, That is unfair to Hubert.  You and I were there and you should know better.  The Warrior was hamstrung by LBJ, who to judge by conversations I had with people who served in his cabinet could and did humiliate his associates when the mood struck him.  Humphrey was a decent person who had the choice of in effect staying in the cabinet and assuming collective responsibility for what he and LBJ understood was a catastrophe, or dropping out and leaving the field to Gene McCarthy, who had a tinker’s chance in hell of gaining the election against Nixon.  I supported McCarthy, but I never thought he ever had a chance.  After RFK’s assassination Humphrey was all we had left.  I will never forgive my left-wing friends who sat the election out, thereby throwing it to Nixon, with the consequences we now sadly see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norske, That is unfair to Hubert.  You and I were there and you should know better.  The Warrior was hamstrung by LBJ, who to judge by conversations I had with people who served in his cabinet could and did humiliate his associates when the mood struck him.  Humphrey was a decent person who had the choice of in effect staying in the cabinet and assuming collective responsibility for what he and LBJ understood was a catastrophe, or dropping out and leaving the field to Gene McCarthy, who had a tinker’s chance in hell of gaining the election against Nixon.  I supported McCarthy, but I never thought he ever had a chance.  After RFK’s assassination Humphrey was all we had left.  I will never forgive my left-wing friends who sat the election out, thereby throwing it to Nixon, with the consequences we now sadly see.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1601831</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;what a looney tune,&lt;br /&gt;
too bad the McCainStreamMedia is using a few jerks to hype a non-issue&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a looney tune,<br />
too bad the McCainStreamMedia is using a few jerks to hype a non-issue</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1601830</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;xin loi&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Haven’t heard that in a long time.  Right on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>xin loi</p>
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<p>Haven’t heard that in a long time.  Right on.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankF</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/28/the-happy-warrior/#comment-1601829</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When I was a kid in the 1060’s and, I believe, when LBJ was running for president with HHH as his running mate, my mom told me about Humphrey’s 1948 civil rights speech and how the Dixiecrats walked out but HHH stood firm and Truman went on to win.  That’s when I became a Democrat.  In spite of all my major disappointments over the years, I still am a Democrat and so are my two teenage sons.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a kid in the 1060’s and, I believe, when LBJ was running for president with HHH as his running mate, my mom told me about Humphrey’s 1948 civil rights speech and how the Dixiecrats walked out but HHH stood firm and Truman went on to win.  That’s when I became a Democrat.  In spite of all my major disappointments over the years, I still am a Democrat and so are my two teenage sons.</p>
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