Nice Work BT: Noonan sounds jealous. Who reads her crap anyway? And newspapers keep wondering why circulation and Ad revenue is declining. Hmmmm….with whack job writers like Peggy, it’s no wonder.

Who is surprised by this? The harpies have made it work for them before.
I’m assuming the pantload will weigh in pretty soon.

Let’s see. This newest piece of journalism from Ms. Noonan requires a well though-out, properly respectful, thorough and serious reply in proportion to the amount of obvious deep thinking and the nuanced stance presented.

So – here it is:

Fuck you, Nooner.

Now, remind me what Noonan said when Reagan spoke at the Brandenburg Gate? I am certain that she swooned over his manliness, his evocation of all that is right and good in America, speaking before the common people.

it has too many variables to guarantee a good tv picture; the set, the Athenian columns, looks hokey; big crowds can get in the way of subtle oratory.

What did she say when Bush did his acceptance speech on a similar set, with the columns and stuff?

One might also point out to Mrs. tortured logic Noonan that a big difference between tonight’s event and a Nuremberg rally is the make up of the audience. Tonight’s rally will be all inclusive, diverse in race, wealth and religion.

On the other hand, Peggy’s rally in St. Paul next week will be primarily WASP’s. Similar to Nuremberg. Another GOP accuse the opposition of what we do trick. Nice Try, Nooner.

DogWhistlpalooza ‘92

2:29 translated from original German text

Sig Heil Piggy !

She is a loathesome toad. She doesn’t even write well. They keep her on because she feeds their prejudices.

Go swim with the Alzheimers dolphins, Peggy. You’ve earned your right to a rest, fellating the overlords these many years. Time for a long rest in Kennebunkport, or wherever Bush-loving pundits retire.

It has every possibility of looking like a Nuremberg rally;

You know what gripes me? How do you refute that without sounding whiney? It’s a ridiculous, despicable thing to say but I don’t know how to respond to mindless arguments.

Here’s my take on Nooner’s habit of projection when she writes:

“In order to paint both her professional life and her husband’s, and in order to communicate what she feels is his singular compassion, she had to paint an America that is darker, sadder, grimmer, than most Americans experience their country to be. And this of course is an incomplete picture, an incorrectly weighted picture. Sadness and struggle are part of life, but so are guts and verve and achievement and success and hardiness and…triumph.”

She’s speaking of Michelle Obama, but the “she” is really the writer…Nooner herself…

Unbelievable.

gee Piggers, mebbe you should take a few less Ambien with the that insouciant little bordeaux, surely you meant Bitburg

Peggy Noonan preaches pretty much exclusively to the converted, and people like Maureen Dowd.

This is a dumb ass column politically. She is lowering expectations for the speech helping to make the end result look even better.

Perhaps she thinks that by dropping the hint, her readers will “see” a Hitler rally—but that’s pretty far fetched.

I think ol Peg is just losing it.

It has every possibility of looking like a Nuremberg rally;

You know what gripes me? How do you refute that without sounding whiney?

Simple, point out that Republican couples consider watching films of Nuremberg rallies foreplay.

Boy she needs a history refresher.

Bush-Cheney-McCain and torture policy seem to go together…I associate war crimes (torture, destroying of torture evidence and hiding of prisoners of war from the IRCC) with a Nuremberg rally.

She must have cut and pasted the wrong content together. The Nuremberg rally comment must have been meant for one of her “prewritten” Repub Convention pieces and she was so rattled, she oopsied…

Peggy, what is it called when you impose your own views/values/actions? Oh yeah, that’s the ticket —Pyschological projection…

In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others. Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them. The theory was developed by Sigmund Freud and further refined by his daughter Anna Freud, and for this reason, it is sometimes referred to as “Freudian Projection”[1] [2]

Did Peggy Noonan write the Brandenberg Gate speech? (just curious – don’t know when she was writing speeches for Reagan)

it’s interesting, whatever they know they are, they call their oponents to innoculate themselves from that same critisism

these are fascists so they refer to hitler, when they want to crap in our air they call it “clean air” when they want a fascist bill from hitler himself they call it “the patriot act”, when they want destroy energy policy they call it “the energy bill” when they want to eliminate public education they call it “no child left behind”

they call us what they themselves are

it’s a child’s trick but it works on us

it’s a child’s trick but it works on us

And often drives a narrative having nothing to do with us.
The MSM is Pavlov’s dog. They lap this shit up.

Yep.

Peggy meet mirror, mirror meet Peggy.

Exactly, or sounding like “them.” How does one even respond? When something is insane, all one can do is “name” it, I guess.

I was thinking this morning is there a way to elevate the conversation in a way not to roll in the mud with them. Not sure. But she is truly round the bend; tragic.

Watching the past primary races and now the Democratic convention has brought such a good level of debate and concern about our national life. I hope the contrast with Rove, McNuts, whining, lying Bush, et al the crowd will only enhance our claims and reveal more of the banality of their evil. Let them all go find a bathroom stall in MN. They should be ashamed and in hiding.

“I know I am, but what are you?” PeeWee Herman

I think ol Peg is just losing it.

Nooner has never had it.

The Republican Party: Tortured Logic. Tortured Citizens.

Apparently note, these are her speech writing highlights from her Wikipedia bio.

During 1984, Noonan, as a speechwriter for President Reagan, authored his “Boys of Pointe du Hoc” speech on the 40th anniversary of D-day. She also wrote Reagan’s address to the nation after the Challenger explosion, drawing upon the poet John Magee’s famous words about aviators who “slipped the surly bonds of earth… and touched the face of God.”

Godwin’s Law (also known as Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1] is an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states:[2][3]

“As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”

Godwin’s Law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the reductio ad Hitlerum form.

nope. but little Margaret Ellen did pen the speech containing this pledge:

Read My Lips, No New Taxes !

Thank you, Ratfood

Allow us to consider:

Almost-eight years of thuglian rule.

1. Widespread economic pain.

2. “Endless” war.

3. The embrasure of torture (that is “cruel and inhuman treatment” of othe HUMAN BEINGS).

4. The deliberate destruction of fundamental rights.

5. The cynical dismantling of the U.S. Constitution.

6. Turning a blind eye towards New Orleans.

7. The eawning adoration of all things ‘Corporate’.

8. Etcetera, etcetera ad infinitum

Yeppers! ‘Merkan ‘folks’ will, withoout a doubt, BELIEVE that Obama is a fascist and all who would vote for him are card-carrying commies.

McCain’t fool the public, no siree.

That there Peggy is one astute social observer now ain’t she?

I know someone from Royal Oak, MI who loves PeeWee Herman!

Just as long as the Republican party owns walking all over the Nuremburg Protocols, that defines a Nazi.
It’s not how it starts it’s how it ends.

And McInsane doing some spots in some stadiums? Those aren’t equally Nuremberg? Only communist-fascist-lefties (is that Doublethink or Triplethink?) can be Naziesque while rightwing crazy batfucks can only be patriots.

awww.. those rethugs must know that McSame’s 15,000 people rally this weekend is going to be attended by maybe a tenth of that number, and they’re just jealous. Its one thing to be able to stage a Nuremberg alley, its quite another that the only attendees at your candidate’s rally will be family members and those you’ve paid to attend.

http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2…..-will.html

Peggy Noonan took this Nuremburg idea from HillBuzz…

…and then there were two….

I think we owe her a debt of gratitude for that one. Well, maybe a nice fruit basket. On second thought, maybe just a nice fruit basket.

Here’s what REALLY bothers Nooner- what she CAN’T say- those rallies WORKED and McBush couldn’t pull one off to counter Obama.

It fits Obama’s biggest strength- soaring oratory—and the night, the lights, the cheering thousands- will all multiply his oratorical magic….

Nooner understands stagecraft and rightly fears that this speech could put a stake through the heart of her stumble bum aging hero.

And, of course, Peggy’s column explains why McCain will not give his acceptance speech in a facility larger than a middle school gymnaseum.

Nooner tends to write about what she FEARS and then turn that thing into something loathsome.

Citing the Nazi example serves Noonan’s partisan agenda by making her seem moderate and reasonable in comparison.

After the ‘92 Republican covention, Molly Ivins wrote that Pat Buchanan’s “take back our culture” speech probably sounded better “in the original German.” Noonan might have a long enough memory to consider her own Nazi comment to be payback.

All of which is why I belong to neither party.

one of the biggest and possibly craziest gambles of this or any other presidential campaign of the modern era. Everyone can define what can go wrong, and […]

Peggy Noon, concern troll.

OK, I took a look-see and I don’t see any Greek-style columns in the accompanying photo. HAH, the comparison breaks to bits.

No one is bringing any tall, vertically-oriented banners with any logos on them are they?

HAH, the comparison breaks down even further!

Maybe Fox will film the whole thing with scratchy black-and-white

…Molly Ivins wrote that Pat Buchanan’s “take back our culture” speech probably sounded better “in the original German.”

She was a giant.

Noonan:

It has every possibility of looking like a Nuremberg rally; it has too many variables to guarantee a good tv picture; the set, the Athenian columns, looks hokey; big crowds can get in the way of subtle oratory.

Oh, you mean like this Peggy?

U.S. (Republican) Congressional candidate Tony Zirkle is under fire after speaking at Chicago event celebrating Adolf Hitler’s birthday.

http://www.wjno.com/pages/spot…..le=3595247

Yeah, when I saw that 15K figure I thought to myself, “How in the world is McCain going to get that many people to show up?”

That thought was immediately followed by, “Why, he’s going to pay them.”

And only hand-picked press will be allowed in.

Hey, the DNC has nothing on the Buffalo Chip Harleyburg Rally, the very pinnacle of civility, cooperation, and caring.

unfortunately, dems are elected by people looking for leadership, vision and character. rethugs like McSame are elected by people who hate change and difference more than they like themselves or their candidate. People like that don’t attend rallies. They just cynically show up, cross their fingers, and vote.

Maybe she meant this Nuremberg:

http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/trial.jpg

Republics should stay aaway from Nazi metaphors. It might cause people to examine the Bush-Nazi WWII links.

McCain will not give his acceptance speech in a facility larger than a middle school gymnaseum.

…. preferring, of course, that more tasteful and intimate setting.

“…it has too many variables to guarantee a good tv picture; the set, the Athenian columns, looks hokey;”

Oh, maybe a green Jello backdrop might work better…?

Hey, the DNC has nothing on the Buffalo Chip Harleyburg Rally, the very pinnacle of civility, cooperation, and caring.

… preferring, as he does, the more tasteful and intimate setting.

lol! that’s great.

Exactly what nooner is working hard to avoid.

Triumph of the Swill

ANY large group event has huge potential downsides- which rarely come to pass..

Nooner is just “HOPING” but she probably knows that Obama has a gift both as a speaker and as a planner of such events and that this thing is likely to be a BARN-BURNER.

That is great

Noonan & far too many others like her who should be having long term therapy in a secure hospital instead get air their fantasies in national papers. The woman is crying out for help. Shame on media enablers.

damn it!

LS, that wasn’t in response to you.

was, however gonna ask if Addington had already been “dispathed” in your pic above :D

dispatched

“It has every possibility of looking like a Nuremberg rally…”

except for, thousands of Aryan, authoritarian, brutal, anti-science, bullies. Where could we find those?

Rush played the Nuremburg rally card today. Maybe we should turn it around on them.

“Hey you know what else happened at Nuremburg? War crime trials. Maybe that is the comparison you need to make. As is, “Hopefully Obama will start sending the Republican War criminals to Nuremburg.”

Oh and remember that one time that two kids created an ad that compared Bush to Hitler? And the Right wing hissy Fit world EXPLODED! It has NEVER been forgotten by the right.

It’s time for our Hissy Fit.

Peggy Noonian compared Obama speaking at Invesco Stadium to Hitler speaking at Nuremburg. Peggy Noonian is comparing Obama to Hitler. That IS OUTRAGEOUS! We demand, like they demanded of MoveOn, that she APOLOGIZE and then remove the story. We also demand that Rush Limbaugh condemn Peggy for her comparison that he also used and approved of today.
We DEMAND that all the exact same responses that they demanded of MoveOn THEY demand of Peggy Noonan. If they don’t then we will be forced to never EVER pay attention to any Hissy Fit of theres every again. We expect the press on the Right to cover this story with the exact same breathlessness and outrage that they did about Bush and the MoveOn ads that NEVER GOT WIDE RELEASE! This story was published INTERNATIONALLY in the WSJ and obviouslly approved by the people who pay her in the WSJ since we saw no disclaimer next to her piece. There for she must be speaking for the WSJ. We demand that the WSJ denounce her column.”

How about that. Hissy enough for them? Probably won’t work though.

Or this one

or this one

They’ll undoubtedly be in St. Paul next week.

I can’t wait to see what comes out of Minn> next week – a preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJyn2rNGEIc

“Where could we find those?”

Crawford, Texas and Teton Pines, Wyoming.

Hey BT, congrats on the props from Glenzilla:

UPDATE: Rather presciently, Blue Texan made very similar points, in similar form, last Friday, before the convention even began.

One of Nooner’s all-time greats:

“He’s Got Two of ‘Em”
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8360.html

If Nooner, Kristolnacht, JoeScar, etc. were fired would people even notice other than us? It’s not like there are throngs of Peggy Noonan fans out there. These “people” keep their jobs to advance BigMoney narratives on the electorate. Nothing more, nothing less.

Holy crappola!!! Have you seen this McBush ad???? It does say “h.a.n.g.”!!!:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0828.html

I wuz wondrin’ where da Mugg’s mugg was as well.

Such a par-tay picture is jus’ not complete widout da Consigliere par pestilence.

Great and inspiring photo, there, LS.

Hopefully, ’tis prophetic.

That was my thinking. I guess it’s too much to hope that McCain will proclaim, “Now we are all Nuremburgers.”

Obama showing an eight point convention bounce so far in Gallup Daily tracking. Since that poll is a rolling three day average, and since it has yet to be effected by results from last night- we could see a double digit convention bounce from Gallup..Goopers have reason to be frightened.

RatFucker Rove designs. C-HANG-E. DemocRAT.

Hopefully, a whole bunch of these people are planning on being in the Miniapple next week:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNZS9ZuZcrg

Let’s see if they get the coverage the PUMAs are getting, even though they’ll surely outnumber the PUMAs by a huge margin. Not holding my breath though…

The purposeful obscuring of the letter “C” indicates they knew exactly what they were doing. Reinstating the practice of lynching is probably a hidden plank in the GOP platform. It was no doubt inevitable after embracing the concept of torture.

He didn’t mean to highlight the hang part of the word change and did you know that he was a POW

Pachacutec is upstairs!
Lieberman to Reid: “Will $250 Million Be Enough?” – VIDEO

They better be frightened. When Gustav hits…holy moley.

In Minneapolis on Monday.

I guess it’s too much to hope that McCain will proclaim, “Now we are all Nuremburgers.”

I can imagine the Republican base licking their chops in response, “Mmmm, burgers…”

Will Gustav get W a pass outta the RNC?

Nice catch by rawstory

It’s proof McCain’s decided to sell his soul and go all Rovian by using the subliminals

Yeah- maybe Clusterfuck will find it necessary to be on the gulf coast (in a concrete bunker) serving as the commander of the hurricane response….so what kind of costume would he wear?

There is no such thing as coincidence or accident in political advertising.

This is the lowest kind of slime right out of Rove’s playbook.

I give credit to the Fox affiliate for speaking up.
Oh, you say their franchise has been jerked for a more compliant smearer? /s

Where is the outrage?

There is no such thing as coincidence or accident in political advertising–nor the distribution thereof. And this was no accident or coincidence.

Peggy Noonan of the Murdoch Street Journal? What’s your point?

Reid and Pelosi should call Congress into special session to vote to condemn her and the Wall Street Journal.

McCain’s handlers are out of control, and he’s either out of control with them or being manipulated the same way the prison guards manipulated him back in ‘nam.

Oh yeah. It’s an odd shot where it is anyway. Feels very forced and quick with what’s on each side. Makes no sense for it to be there other than to show the “HANG.” We’re fighting real evil here, and I don’t use that term loosely.

Wow. Noonan got the “columns” memo, I see.

Put that together with the poo pooing of the supremists intent by a Rovian guy in Denver….

I just want to get through tonight.

Hmm. I guess this opens the field to saying that John McCain’s plans to bomb confront Iran have every chance of looking like the Blitzkreig.

Hey, this is fun!

Bush and company have spent the last seven years doing real damage to the the Constitution and personal liberties, but now these fucknuts are all wound up about phony symbolism?

When fear is all you’ve got…

Slightly OT – regarding political ads against Obama – this is VERY interesting about the guy who backed the Swift Boaters and possible litigation against his group regarding Obama attack ad-

http://www.pubrecord.org/polit…..?task=view

big crowds can get in the way of subtle oratory.

Oh, so NOW Noonan is craving ’subtlety’ in her oratory? I thought the rightards didn’t do ‘nuance’.

Man, So did Hannity. Had been in the car and heard some of his bitter, angry cynical rant. I do not know how he stands himself.

It’s easily calculatable since the numbers have been steady at about 45%-45% for several days (actually the last three day showed McCain with a 46%-44% lead, so it’s likely the “bounce is even greater).

But if you add 45+44+55/3 – you’ll get a 48% average. Then take 45+46+35/3 and you’ll get 42%. That means it may be actually 55% Obama to 35% McCain on the final day. That’s a 10% net gain for Obama and a 11% net loss for McCain. That’s some bounce!