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		<title>By: mui1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1601936</link>
		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hillary Rosen, who does commentary for CNN, told me yesterday that despite the fact that cable news has decided the war between Clinton and Obama supporters is the story of the convention, they’re actually having trouble finding delegates who reflect that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From here on the ground, the real story is the unhealthy relationship between Democratic politicians and their bigwig donors, but woe to anyone who wants to look into it: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Strange how media decides “the big story”. then they devote themselves to making it look “true” whether it reflects reality or not.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hillary Rosen, who does commentary for CNN, told me yesterday that despite the fact that cable news has decided the war between Clinton and Obama supporters is the story of the convention, they’re actually having trouble finding delegates who reflect that.</p>
<p>From here on the ground, the real story is the unhealthy relationship between Democratic politicians and their bigwig donors, but woe to anyone who wants to look into it: </p>
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<p>Strange how media decides “the big story”. then they devote themselves to making it look “true” whether it reflects reality or not.</p>
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		<title>By: ctrenta1213</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1600509</link>
		<dc:creator>ctrenta1213</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Get a load of this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.docudharma.com/showComment.do?commentId=161621&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.docudharma.com/show.....tId=161621&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;This was posted in comments at the ABC site:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just called the pr girl at the Brown Palace Hotel. Great girl. Story is bogus. She said the camera guy was blocking the entrance. They nevere said thaty they owned the side walk, and the cops asked the nimrods 5 times to move. I hate liberals, but this story would make Dan Rather blush! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Posted by: rhbcazny 6:30 PM&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, </p>
<p>Get a load of this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.docudharma.com/showComment.do?commentId=161621" rel="nofollow">http://www.docudharma.com/show&#8230;..tId=161621</a></p>
<blockquote><p>This was posted in comments at the ABC site:</p>
<p>I just called the pr girl at the Brown Palace Hotel. Great girl. Story is bogus. She said the camera guy was blocking the entrance. They nevere said thaty they owned the side walk, and the cops asked the nimrods 5 times to move. I hate liberals, but this story would make Dan Rather blush! </p>
<p>Posted by: rhbcazny 6:30 PM</p>
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		<title>By: stryder</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1600442</link>
		<dc:creator>stryder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;you better believe it.&lt;br /&gt;
check out the accolades for the DFH and bean counters in this DKOS article about the origins of the neocon/Saudi dynasty&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the strange tale of the alliance of Middle East jihadists and their business partners, entrepreneurial elements of the CIA Old Guard led by George Herbert Walker Bush.  Together, they developed a global network that peddled nuclear weapons, cultivated global terrorist groups, subverted the U.S. government, and tried to impose their own global dynasty under cover of a manufactured Forever War of religious genocide&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The Safari Club&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Khan network was the product of more than an alliance against the Soviet Union.  It sprang out of a post-Watergate era partnership between disgraced former covert operators who had been thrown out of American intelligence, the Saudi Royal family, and third-country partners who provided manpower and technical assistance.  It was called, “The Safari Club”. In early 1976, under its outgoing Director George H.W. Bush, elements within the Agency turned to the Saudi royal family for help. Those were difficult times for CIA Old Guard.  As ground involvement in Vietnam ended in 1973, the Agency ramped up the covert operations and secret wars that spread into Laos and Cambodia.  The Phoenix Program targeted tens of thousands of South Vietnamese officials and suspected Vietcong sympathizers for assassination, a program in which James Mann tells us in Rise of the Vulcans a naval officer, named Richard Armitage, participated.   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.warandpiece.com/…&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.warandpiece.com/…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Two years later, despite the extraordinary exertions of some within the Agency, and a fellowship of committed Cold warriors, Saigon fell.  Within that group was the perception that the (Cause had been betrayed by liberals, Democrats, and bean counters, and that would never again be allowed to happen.)!!!&lt;br /&gt;
excellent article&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/8/14653/71820&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/8/14653/71820&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
These are the reasons I believe 911 was an inside job and it makes me sick to my stomach&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you better believe it.<br />
check out the accolades for the DFH and bean counters in this DKOS article about the origins of the neocon/Saudi dynasty</p>
<p>This is the strange tale of the alliance of Middle East jihadists and their business partners, entrepreneurial elements of the CIA Old Guard led by George Herbert Walker Bush.  Together, they developed a global network that peddled nuclear weapons, cultivated global terrorist groups, subverted the U.S. government, and tried to impose their own global dynasty under cover of a manufactured Forever War of religious genocide</p>
<p>“The Safari Club</p>
<p>The Khan network was the product of more than an alliance against the Soviet Union.  It sprang out of a post-Watergate era partnership between disgraced former covert operators who had been thrown out of American intelligence, the Saudi Royal family, and third-country partners who provided manpower and technical assistance.  It was called, “The Safari Club”. In early 1976, under its outgoing Director George H.W. Bush, elements within the Agency turned to the Saudi royal family for help. Those were difficult times for CIA Old Guard.  As ground involvement in Vietnam ended in 1973, the Agency ramped up the covert operations and secret wars that spread into Laos and Cambodia.  The Phoenix Program targeted tens of thousands of South Vietnamese officials and suspected Vietcong sympathizers for assassination, a program in which James Mann tells us in Rise of the Vulcans a naval officer, named Richard Armitage, participated.   <a href="http://www.warandpiece.com/…" rel="nofollow">http://www.warandpiece.com/…</a></p>
<p>Two years later, despite the extraordinary exertions of some within the Agency, and a fellowship of committed Cold warriors, Saigon fell.  Within that group was the perception that the (Cause had been betrayed by liberals, Democrats, and bean counters, and that would never again be allowed to happen.)!!!<br />
excellent article<br /><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/8/14653/71820" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/8/14653/71820</a><br />
These are the reasons I believe 911 was an inside job and it makes me sick to my stomach</p>
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		<title>By: wobblybits</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1600434</link>
		<dc:creator>wobblybits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From what I have gathered, some states wanted to follow her call from the previous evening and cast their vote for Obama &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ted Koppel is on the BBC flaming the division thing. sheesh&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I have gathered, some states wanted to follow her call from the previous evening and cast their vote for Obama </p>
<p>Ted Koppel is on the BBC flaming the division thing. sheesh</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1600430</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;dhammit, I am posts behind&lt;br /&gt;
Hillary Makes The Decisive Call&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/hillary-makes-the-decisive-call/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;up a couple flights&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dhammit, I am posts behind<br />
Hillary Makes The Decisive Call<br /><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/hillary-makes-the-decisive-call/" rel="nofollow">up a couple flights</a></p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1600410</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Republicans are such wusses…unless they could have compelled someone elses kids to participate in the violence it wouldn’t fly. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In fact, the demos by the Anti-Abortion groups likely just made more of the Clinton delegates realize just what was at stake here. If they got a dose of “Operation Rescue” - the Supreme Court would be a strong encouragement to stop the bluffs about “I’m goinna vote for McCain”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans are such wusses…unless they could have compelled someone elses kids to participate in the violence it wouldn’t fly. </p>
<p>In fact, the demos by the Anti-Abortion groups likely just made more of the Clinton delegates realize just what was at stake here. If they got a dose of “Operation Rescue” &#8211; the Supreme Court would be a strong encouragement to stop the bluffs about “I’m goinna vote for McCain”.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1600401</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well there’s reporting you can rely on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well there’s reporting you can rely on.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1600392</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Off to turn on the Rays/Blue Jays game, feed the tigers, turn on the convention and read until Bill and Bitem speak (tube on, mute on, otherwise).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Namaste&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off to turn on the Rays/Blue Jays game, feed the tigers, turn on the convention and read until Bill and Bitem speak (tube on, mute on, otherwise).  </p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1600391</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe it was in the broadcasters booth…the Fox commentators could then say they heard boos.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it was in the broadcasters booth…the Fox commentators could then say they heard boos.</p>
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		<title>By: ally</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/27/the-real-battle-in-denver/#comment-1600388</link>
		<dc:creator>ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But will we see ABC News be just as aggressive with all of McSame’s lobbying friends at the Repub convention - sponsored mostly by Big Oil??&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I won’t hold my breath.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But will we see ABC News be just as aggressive with all of McSame’s lobbying friends at the Repub convention &#8211; sponsored mostly by Big Oil??</p>
<p>I won’t hold my breath.</p>
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