Comments on: Putting the rat in erratum http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:18:02 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: plunger http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596200 plunger Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:13:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596200 <p>Perris:</p> <p>There are many (even among this community) who do not want this much truth revealed, and would prefer I not post at all. If you notice me missing from future conversations, it will be because this much truth is unacceptable, and the pressure to silence it became to great.</p> <p>The diary that was compiled by someone (WinterPatriot) who saved many of my postings in 2006 is here:</p> <p><a href="http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com</a></p> <p>I would be happy to do such a diary here as you have suggested, but am well aware that the entire truth is not welcome by many. If you wish to lobby for it on my behalf (or simply on behalf of “the truth”), perhaps we can make it happen. Thank you for suggesting it.</p> Perris:

There are many (even among this community) who do not want this much truth revealed, and would prefer I not post at all. If you notice me missing from future conversations, it will be because this much truth is unacceptable, and the pressure to silence it became to great.

The diary that was compiled by someone (WinterPatriot) who saved many of my postings in 2006 is here:

http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com

I would be happy to do such a diary here as you have suggested, but am well aware that the entire truth is not welcome by many. If you wish to lobby for it on my behalf (or simply on behalf of “the truth”), perhaps we can make it happen. Thank you for suggesting it.

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596174 perris Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:44:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596174 <p>plunger, it seems as though you might have done this connecting the dots a bit yourself, you should begin a diary here at the lake and link to it when you’ve added content</p> plunger, it seems as though you might have done this connecting the dots a bit yourself, you should begin a diary here at the lake and link to it when you’ve added content

]]> By: plunger http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596102 plunger Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:34:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596102 <p>To make the list available to all, in one place, to copy and paste for their own files and their own research, to solve the crime of the century (or any century).</p> To make the list available to all, in one place, to copy and paste for their own files and their own research, to solve the crime of the century (or any century).

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596099 SouthernDragon Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:31:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596099 <p>Nice cut and paste job. To what end?</p> Nice cut and paste job. To what end?

]]> By: plunger http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596098 plunger Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:30:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596098 <p>You can’t tell the co-conspirators without a scorecard. Connect the dots around these names, and you’ll know who planned it, had foreknowledge of it, who had operational control, whose job it was to sell the public on an alternate reality, where your money and your freedom went, and why:</p> <p>A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard; Abdullah Noman; Abdussattar Shaikh; Abraham Lowenthal; Alan Makovsky; Alex Diamandis; Alvin K. Hellerstein; Andrew Card; Andrew Colsky; Ari Fleischer; Ariel Sharon; Benjamin Chertoff; Bernard Kerik; Binyamin Netantahu; Bob Graham; Bush cousin; Charles Thornton; Colin Powell; Dale Watson; Daniel Kurtzer; Daniel Lewin; Daniel Pipes; Dave Frasca; David Frum; David Makovsky; David Rockefeller; David Wurmser; Dick Cheney; Dominic Suter; Donald Rumsfeld; Douglas Feith; Dov Zakheim; Dror Levy; Edward Luttwak; Ehud “Udi” Mendelson; Ehud Olmert; Eliezer Tabibl; Eliot Cohen; Eliot Spitzer; Elliott Abrams; Elliott Broidy; Eric Edelman; Eric Findley; Ezra Harel; Frank Carlucci; Frank Lowy; Gene Corley; Geoffrey Lambert; George H.W. Bush; George Tenet; George W. Bush; Hanane Sarfati/Hanan Serfaty; Harold Nelson; Henry Kissinger; Henry Shelton; Howard “Tzvi” Friedman; Howard Kohr; Jack Abramoff; Jacob “Kobi” Alexander; James Baker; James Schlesinger; James Woolsey; Jeb Bush; Jerome Hauer; John Ashcroft; John Bolton; John Brinkerhoff; John Deutch; John Gross; John Howard; John Lehman; Jules Kroll; Ken Melman; Kenneth Adelman; Kenneth R. Feinberg; Kevin Delaney; Larry Arnold; Larry Franklin; Larry Silverstein; Leslie Gelb; Lewis “Scooter” Libby; Lewis E. Lehrman; Lewis Eisenberg; Loring Knoblauch; Mahmoud Ahmad; Marc Grossman; Marc Rich; Marion “Spike” Bowman; Mark Loizeaux; Marvin Bush; Maurice Greenberg; Maurice Sarfati/Moshe Tzorfati; Meir Levy; Mel Sembler; Mete Sozen; Michael Cherkasky; Michael Chertoff; Michael Mukasey; Michael S. Goff; Mickey Kantor; Montague Winfield; Monte Belger; Morris Amitay; Newt Gingrich; Nicholas Rockefeller; Oded Ellner; Omer Marmari; Paul Bremer; Paul Kurzberg; Paul Mlakar; Peter Schoomaker; Philip Zelikow; Phillip Zack; Porter Goss; Ralph Eberhardt; Ramon Gilsanz; Randy Scheunemann; Richard Armitage; Richard Fishman; Richard Haass; Richard Holbrooke; Richard Meyers; Richard Miles; Richard Perle; Richard Tomasetti; Robert McFarlane; Robert Mueller; Robert Zoellick; Ronald Hamburger; Ronald Lauder; Rudie Dekkers; Rudy Guiliani; Rupert Murdoch; Sam Miller; Sam Zell; Samual Anidjar (Sayat on plane aka Mossad Agent); Shabtai Shavit; Shankar Nair; Shaul Levy; Silvio Berlusconi; Sivan Kurzberg; Stephen Lander; Steve Goldsmith; Ted Olson; Theresa McAllister; Thomas Dine; Thomas Pickard; Thomas White; Tommy Franks; Tommy Thompson; Tony Blair; Tony Gentry; Victor Ganzi; Wallace Hilliard; Warren Buffett; William Baker; William Kristol; Wirt Walker; Yaron Shmuel; Yisrael Ziv; Yosef “Yossi” Kuperwasser</p> <p>It’s time to name names.</p> You can’t tell the co-conspirators without a scorecard. Connect the dots around these names, and you’ll know who planned it, had foreknowledge of it, who had operational control, whose job it was to sell the public on an alternate reality, where your money and your freedom went, and why:

A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard; Abdullah Noman; Abdussattar Shaikh; Abraham Lowenthal; Alan Makovsky; Alex Diamandis; Alvin K. Hellerstein; Andrew Card; Andrew Colsky; Ari Fleischer; Ariel Sharon; Benjamin Chertoff; Bernard Kerik; Binyamin Netantahu; Bob Graham; Bush cousin; Charles Thornton; Colin Powell; Dale Watson; Daniel Kurtzer; Daniel Lewin; Daniel Pipes; Dave Frasca; David Frum; David Makovsky; David Rockefeller; David Wurmser; Dick Cheney; Dominic Suter; Donald Rumsfeld; Douglas Feith; Dov Zakheim; Dror Levy; Edward Luttwak; Ehud “Udi” Mendelson; Ehud Olmert; Eliezer Tabibl; Eliot Cohen; Eliot Spitzer; Elliott Abrams; Elliott Broidy; Eric Edelman; Eric Findley; Ezra Harel; Frank Carlucci; Frank Lowy; Gene Corley; Geoffrey Lambert; George H.W. Bush; George Tenet; George W. Bush; Hanane Sarfati/Hanan Serfaty; Harold Nelson; Henry Kissinger; Henry Shelton; Howard “Tzvi” Friedman; Howard Kohr; Jack Abramoff; Jacob “Kobi” Alexander; James Baker; James Schlesinger; James Woolsey; Jeb Bush; Jerome Hauer; John Ashcroft; John Bolton; John Brinkerhoff; John Deutch; John Gross; John Howard; John Lehman; Jules Kroll; Ken Melman; Kenneth Adelman; Kenneth R. Feinberg; Kevin Delaney; Larry Arnold; Larry Franklin; Larry Silverstein; Leslie Gelb; Lewis “Scooter” Libby; Lewis E. Lehrman; Lewis Eisenberg; Loring Knoblauch; Mahmoud Ahmad; Marc Grossman; Marc Rich; Marion “Spike” Bowman; Mark Loizeaux; Marvin Bush; Maurice Greenberg; Maurice Sarfati/Moshe Tzorfati; Meir Levy; Mel Sembler; Mete Sozen; Michael Cherkasky; Michael Chertoff; Michael Mukasey; Michael S. Goff; Mickey Kantor; Montague Winfield; Monte Belger; Morris Amitay; Newt Gingrich; Nicholas Rockefeller; Oded Ellner; Omer Marmari; Paul Bremer; Paul Kurzberg; Paul Mlakar; Peter Schoomaker; Philip Zelikow; Phillip Zack; Porter Goss; Ralph Eberhardt; Ramon Gilsanz; Randy Scheunemann; Richard Armitage; Richard Fishman; Richard Haass; Richard Holbrooke; Richard Meyers; Richard Miles; Richard Perle; Richard Tomasetti; Robert McFarlane; Robert Mueller; Robert Zoellick; Ronald Hamburger; Ronald Lauder; Rudie Dekkers; Rudy Guiliani; Rupert Murdoch; Sam Miller; Sam Zell; Samual Anidjar (Sayat on plane aka Mossad Agent); Shabtai Shavit; Shankar Nair; Shaul Levy; Silvio Berlusconi; Sivan Kurzberg; Stephen Lander; Steve Goldsmith; Ted Olson; Theresa McAllister; Thomas Dine; Thomas Pickard; Thomas White; Tommy Franks; Tommy Thompson; Tony Blair; Tony Gentry; Victor Ganzi; Wallace Hilliard; Warren Buffett; William Baker; William Kristol; Wirt Walker; Yaron Shmuel; Yisrael Ziv; Yosef “Yossi” Kuperwasser

It’s time to name names.

]]> By: SouthernDragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596092 SouthernDragon Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:23:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596092 <blockquote><p>this is gonna be tough to turn around</p></blockquote> <p>Only one way to do it: more work, less whine.</p>

this is gonna be tough to turn around

Only one way to do it: more work, less whine.

]]> By: RevDeb http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596089 RevDeb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:22:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596089 <p>gotta go get some exercise. See y’all later.</p> gotta go get some exercise. See y’all later.

]]> By: RevDeb http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596088 RevDeb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:21:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596088 <p>what choice do we have? As the 12 steppers say, One day at a time. It’s how they did it, but we have more tools now—as long as we can hold on to them.</p> what choice do we have? As the 12 steppers say, One day at a time. It’s how they did it, but we have more tools now—as long as we can hold on to them.

]]> By: RevDeb http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596087 RevDeb Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:19:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596087 <p>I see Biden using it on him more effectively. HoJo is nothing but a whiner. Biden can cut him to threads without HoJo knowing what hit him. I hope.</p> I see Biden using it on him more effectively. HoJo is nothing but a whiner. Biden can cut him to threads without HoJo knowing what hit him. I hope.

]]> By: plunger http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596086 plunger Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:18:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/25/putting-the-rat-in-erratum/#comment-1596086 <p>The “tell” will be when you hear Lieberman say: </p> <blockquote><p>“With all the time I have spent in the company of John McCain, he has managed to convert me on a very important point. John is very passionate about human life, and I have come to accept his views on the sanctity of life and the moment at which it begins. I therefore must adopt a pro life platform as my own.”</p></blockquote> <p>And the crowd went wild…</p> The “tell” will be when you hear Lieberman say:

“With all the time I have spent in the company of John McCain, he has managed to convert me on a very important point. John is very passionate about human life, and I have come to accept his views on the sanctity of life and the moment at which it begins. I therefore must adopt a pro life platform as my own.”

And the crowd went wild…

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