Comments on: FDL Book Salon Welcomes Jane Mayer, The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How the War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals

By: T-Bear

T-Bear — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:42:59 +0000

A point that was not discussed here that should not be overlooked.

Throughout this episode, the US State Dept, its ambassadors, and US Embassies have assured foreign governments that rendition or special rendition was in fact not occurring through that country’s sovereign territory. A bald faced lie told through diplomatic channels. This vastly increases the number of accomplices involved in intentional deceptions to the public and to the world at large.

By: stryder

stryder — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:26:21 +0000

I sure wish Marcy could have been here

By: Loo Hoo.

Loo Hoo. — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:37:47 +0000

Thank you so much, Jane Mayer. You are an American patriot.

By: stryder

stryder — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:28:17 +0000

I don’t know if it’s possible to characterise the reality of the depth of the collusion involved in these policy decisions on every level including the Clinton admin. any more clearly than you have @ 114 and 151.
Very well put and long overdue

By: RevBev

RevBev — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:22:21 +0000

What a great guest and informative post. Thanks to Steve and Jane for such clear and courteous answers. A great exchange. Many thanks.

By: bobschacht

bobschacht — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:16:40 +0000

“I didn’t hear anyone fearful of impeachment. “

This is so sad, because it shows the depth to which the Republicans had Pelosi neutered and horse-collared. It is almost as if Pelosi was in on the conspiracy.

Bob in HI

By: Twain

Twain — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:51:08 +0000

Julia is upstairs

By: dmac

dmac — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:49:22 +0000

my 185 was to laura doty’s 181 message.

By: dmac

dmac — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:47:57 +0000

here’s the link to laura’s post..am posting it for future records when time goes by and the post is lost from the front page.
http://justpeacenow.blogspot.c.....jawad.html

By: john in sacramento

john in sacramento — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:40:13 +0000

Hope you do come back later, what do you think about this Jane?

PR Push for Iraq War Preceded Intelligence Findings

Washington D.C., August 22, 2008 - The U.S. intelligence community buckled sooner in 2002 than previously reported to Bush administration pressure for data justifying an invasion of Iraq, according to a documents posting on the Web today by National Security Archive senior fellow John Prados.

The documents suggest that the public relations push for war came before the intelligence analysis, which then conformed to public positions taken by Pentagon and White House officials. For example, a July 2002 draft of the “White Paper” ultimately issued by the CIA in October 2002 actually pre-dated the National Intelligence Estimate that the paper purportedly summarized, but which Congress did not insist on until September 2002.

A similar comparison between a declassified draft and the final version of the British government’s “White Paper” on Iraq weapons of mass destruction adds to evidence that the two nations colluded in the effort to build public support for the invasion of Iraq. Dr. Prados concludes that the new evidence tends to support charges raised by former White House press secretary Scott McClellan and by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in its long-delayed June 2008 “Phase II” report on politicization of intelligence.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/N...../index.htm