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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591775</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Israel thrives on being perceived as a target/victim. It’s precisely their agenda.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;although that’s the perception I don’t think it’s true, I believe the were in constant negotiation with real concession on the table before bush took office&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Israel thrives on being perceived as a target/victim. It’s precisely their agenda.</p>
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<p>although that’s the perception I don’t think it’s true, I believe the were in constant negotiation with real concession on the table before bush took office</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591769</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn’t claim Romney was connected directly to this - merely that Romney and Carlyle are joint venturers in enough investments to warrant 95,000 Google hits for Bain Capital and Carlyle Group.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    If Mitt is the GOP VP then we have to focus on him not Bush. I think the Asbestos deal is a good area to research there seems to be dirt.&lt;br /&gt;
    I as you have guessed am not sold on 9/11 was planned by Bush aside from that you have good info Welcome to the Lake where people feel free to disagree:)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn’t claim Romney was connected directly to this &#8211; merely that Romney and Carlyle are joint venturers in enough investments to warrant 95,000 Google hits for Bain Capital and Carlyle Group.</p>
<p>    If Mitt is the GOP VP then we have to focus on him not Bush. I think the Asbestos deal is a good area to research there seems to be dirt.<br />
    I as you have guessed am not sold on 9/11 was planned by Bush aside from that you have good info Welcome to the Lake where people feel free to disagree:)</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591754</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bush’s SOU speech calling for the elimination of frivolous asbestos-related law suits occurs in 2005 - and then, voila!  Problem solved - final solution in the courts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you noted, the problem was not solved until 2005, while the arson occurred in September of 2001.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for the cost to mitigate the asbestos liability represented by the WTC absent the arson that ocurred:&lt;/p&gt;
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There’s more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center — subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority — has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I didn’t claim Romney was connected directly to this - merely that Romney and Carlyle are joint venturers in enough investments to warrant 95,000 Google hits for Bain Capital and Carlyle Group.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you consider how many wealthy corporations and individuals would have been negatively impacted by asbestos litigation for the coming decades, it’s not hard to see how they all would have been in favor of any plan to make their future liabilities disappear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The number of people who know the truth is in the tens of thousands at this point, including every politician in DC.  9/11 was arson.  Building 7 was abandoned in anticipation of a plane strike from the one that was shot down in Shanksville, leaving the co-conspirators with a major problem to resolve, which they did later that evening.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush’s SOU speech calling for the elimination of frivolous asbestos-related law suits occurs in 2005 &#8211; and then, voila!  Problem solved &#8211; final solution in the courts.</p>
<p>As you noted, the problem was not solved until 2005, while the arson occurred in September of 2001.</p>
<p>As for the cost to mitigate the asbestos liability represented by the WTC absent the arson that ocurred:</p>
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There’s more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center — subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority — has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?</p>
<p>The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.</p>
<p>The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!</p>
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<p>I didn’t claim Romney was connected directly to this &#8211; merely that Romney and Carlyle are joint venturers in enough investments to warrant 95,000 Google hits for Bain Capital and Carlyle Group.</p>
<p>If you consider how many wealthy corporations and individuals would have been negatively impacted by asbestos litigation for the coming decades, it’s not hard to see how they all would have been in favor of any plan to make their future liabilities disappear.</p>
<p>The number of people who know the truth is in the tens of thousands at this point, including every politician in DC.  9/11 was arson.  Building 7 was abandoned in anticipation of a plane strike from the one that was shot down in Shanksville, leaving the co-conspirators with a major problem to resolve, which they did later that evening.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591751</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;Bush gave Saudi Arabia Nuclear tech and guess who else has plans for getting reactors the UAE (United Arab Emirates ) Kuwait and Bahrain the article does not say who is going to give them the Nuclear Reactor tech but I bet its Bush. &lt;strong&gt;If we get this information out McCain can forget about Florida.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;bingo, now we have to do what’s neccessary to make it so&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Bush gave Saudi Arabia Nuclear tech and guess who else has plans for getting reactors the UAE (United Arab Emirates ) Kuwait and Bahrain the article does not say who is going to give them the Nuclear Reactor tech but I bet its Bush. <strong>If we get this information out McCain can forget about Florida.</strong></p>
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<p>bingo, now we have to do what’s neccessary to make it so</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591723</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Namaste&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.</p>
<p>Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: Waccamaw</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591719</link>
		<dc:creator>Waccamaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;S’truth…….. but I am so bloody tired of disappointment and settling for the lesser of what could be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S’truth…….. but I am so bloody tired of disappointment and settling for the lesser of what could be.</p>
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		<title>By: broadbrush</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591707</link>
		<dc:creator>broadbrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;yeah but doesn’t the alternative scare the hell out of you?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah but doesn’t the alternative scare the hell out of you?</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591706</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Slimy little worm.  He just might see the Second Coming before anybody else; when Jesus comes down to put a foot up his ass.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slimy little worm.  He just might see the Second Coming before anybody else; when Jesus comes down to put a foot up his ass.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591704</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;# In 1998 Halliburton merged with Dresser Industries, which included Kellogg. Prescott Bush was a director of Dresser Industries, which is now part of Halliburton. Former United States president George H. W. Bush worked for Dresser Industries in several positions from 1948–1951, before he founded Zapata Corporation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With the acquisition of Dresser Industries in 1998, the Kellogg-Brown &amp; Root division (in 2002 renamed to KBR) was formed by merging Halliburton’s Brown &amp; Root (acquired 1962) subsidiary and the M.W. Kellogg division of Dresser (which Dresser had merged with in 1988). KBR is a major international construction company, which is a highly volatile undertaking subject to wild fluctuations in revenue and profit. Asbestos-related litigation from the Kellogg acquisition caused the company to book more than US$4.0 billion in losses from 2002 through 2004.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a result of the asbestos-related costs and staggering losses on the Barracuda Caratinga FPSO construction project based in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Halliburton lost approximately $900 million U.S. a year from 2002 through 2004. &lt;strong&gt;A final non-appealable settlement in the asbestos case was reached in January 2005 which allowed Halliburton subsidiary KBR to exit Chapter 11 bankruptcy and returned the company to quarterly profitability. &lt;/strong&gt;So, while Halliburton’s revenues have increased because of its contracts in the Middle East, its bottom line continues to suffer.[8]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At a meeting for investors and analysts in August 2004, a plan was outlined to divest the KBR division through a possible sale, spin-off or initial public offering. Analysts at Deutsche Bank value KBR at up to $2.15 billion, while others believe it could be worth closer to $3 billion by 2005. KBR became a separately listed company on 5 April 2007.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  My bold I see ties to Bush nothing to Mitt. Also&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A final non-appealable settlement in the asbestos case was reached in January 2005 which allowed Halliburton subsidiary KBR to exit Chapter 11 bankruptcy and returned the company to quarterly profitability. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   No need to Destroy the twin towers when there is a deal in place that is non appealable although I think thats illegal or should be illegal.&lt;br /&gt;
   Construction crews have removed asbestos from building before I don’t think the cost would have broken anyone.&lt;br /&gt;
    I will admit that construction bids on asbestos are not my area of expertise but I do know that its possible to remove and has been done before.&lt;br /&gt;
   Where does Mitt fit in what am I missing?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># In 1998 Halliburton merged with Dresser Industries, which included Kellogg. Prescott Bush was a director of Dresser Industries, which is now part of Halliburton. Former United States president George H. W. Bush worked for Dresser Industries in several positions from 1948–1951, before he founded Zapata Corporation.</p>
<p>With the acquisition of Dresser Industries in 1998, the Kellogg-Brown &amp; Root division (in 2002 renamed to KBR) was formed by merging Halliburton’s Brown &amp; Root (acquired 1962) subsidiary and the M.W. Kellogg division of Dresser (which Dresser had merged with in 1988). KBR is a major international construction company, which is a highly volatile undertaking subject to wild fluctuations in revenue and profit. Asbestos-related litigation from the Kellogg acquisition caused the company to book more than US$4.0 billion in losses from 2002 through 2004.</p>
<p>As a result of the asbestos-related costs and staggering losses on the Barracuda Caratinga FPSO construction project based in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Halliburton lost approximately $900 million U.S. a year from 2002 through 2004. <strong>A final non-appealable settlement in the asbestos case was reached in January 2005 which allowed Halliburton subsidiary KBR to exit Chapter 11 bankruptcy and returned the company to quarterly profitability. </strong>So, while Halliburton’s revenues have increased because of its contracts in the Middle East, its bottom line continues to suffer.[8]</p>
<p>At a meeting for investors and analysts in August 2004, a plan was outlined to divest the KBR division through a possible sale, spin-off or initial public offering. Analysts at Deutsche Bank value KBR at up to $2.15 billion, while others believe it could be worth closer to $3 billion by 2005. KBR became a separately listed company on 5 April 2007.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton</a></p>
<p>  My bold I see ties to Bush nothing to Mitt. Also</p>
<p><strong>A final non-appealable settlement in the asbestos case was reached in January 2005 which allowed Halliburton subsidiary KBR to exit Chapter 11 bankruptcy and returned the company to quarterly profitability. </strong></p>
<p>   No need to Destroy the twin towers when there is a deal in place that is non appealable although I think thats illegal or should be illegal.<br />
   Construction crews have removed asbestos from building before I don’t think the cost would have broken anyone.<br />
    I will admit that construction bids on asbestos are not my area of expertise but I do know that its possible to remove and has been done before.<br />
   Where does Mitt fit in what am I missing?</p>
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		<title>By: Waccamaw</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/22/are-you-being-served/#comment-1591703</link>
		<dc:creator>Waccamaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Caught the first little bit and *click*. WJ is the best (or worst) venue (depending on your viewpoint) for someone like him…….gets to spew lie upon lie with no real rebuttal. GAK!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caught the first little bit and *click*. WJ is the best (or worst) venue (depending on your viewpoint) for someone like him…….gets to spew lie upon lie with no real rebuttal. GAK!</p>
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