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	<title>Comments on: So Much For That &#8216;Respectful Campaign&#8217; From Ol&#8217; McNasty</title>
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		<title>By: JustUsLeague</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/21/so-much-for-that-respectful-campaign-from-ol-mcnasty/#comment-1590354</link>
		<dc:creator>JustUsLeague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s a new WSJ article (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121928285999558901.html) out about McCain’s camp’s plans to sideline the Democratic convention.  The voters really need to have a chance to focus on each party’s convewntion in order to understand what the platforms are, how they differ, etc., without the noise from these shennanigans.  What’s the best way to get this message to the MSM?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a new WSJ article (<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121928285999558901.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121928285999558901.html</a>) out about McCain’s camp’s plans to sideline the Democratic convention.  The voters really need to have a chance to focus on each party’s convewntion in order to understand what the platforms are, how they differ, etc., without the noise from these shennanigans.  What’s the best way to get this message to the MSM?</p>
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		<title>By: Crosstimbers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/21/so-much-for-that-respectful-campaign-from-ol-mcnasty/#comment-1590316</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosstimbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think there is something in most Democrats, almost by definition, which believes in reason, believes that the electorate is informed, believes that people prefer courtesy and decency, and believes that using the disreputable tactics of the enemy reduces one the being no better than the enemy.  Unfortunately, these inate beliefs seem not to match reality and I guess we have to change what we believe important in order to win.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is something in most Democrats, almost by definition, which believes in reason, believes that the electorate is informed, believes that people prefer courtesy and decency, and believes that using the disreputable tactics of the enemy reduces one the being no better than the enemy.  Unfortunately, these inate beliefs seem not to match reality and I guess we have to change what we believe important in order to win.</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/21/so-much-for-that-respectful-campaign-from-ol-mcnasty/#comment-1590293</link>
		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The dems need to drive one theme from down ticket to top&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;RETHUGS = SLEEZE&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dems need to drive one theme from down ticket to top</p>
<p>RETHUGS = SLEEZE</p>
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		<title>By: T-Bear</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/21/so-much-for-that-respectful-campaign-from-ol-mcnasty/#comment-1590281</link>
		<dc:creator>T-Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe McCain is a self-styled hero, so what, It is the only thing the man has done himself in his entire life. He has nothing else to show for seventy two years. Think just how little that is. His great wealth belongs to another, his position comes by way of fraud, his years have put him into decline. He has no ability. When he accounts for his life, he has nothing in the balance. Not even his shadow can he call his own. Sad wrinkly drooly old man.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe McCain is a self-styled hero, so what, It is the only thing the man has done himself in his entire life. He has nothing else to show for seventy two years. Think just how little that is. His great wealth belongs to another, his position comes by way of fraud, his years have put him into decline. He has no ability. When he accounts for his life, he has nothing in the balance. Not even his shadow can he call his own. Sad wrinkly drooly old man.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;headline news here in long island, sprawled all over the newsday last nite;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;mccakin leads!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and people are happy about this&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;man, I live in a bubble, before I went to vist my friend over the summer I thought there was no way the democrats could lose, but all of my friends are “considering” mccain (translation, they are voting for the white guy)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;we’ve lived in a bubble here at the lake, we know things most people don’t know.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>headline news here in long island, sprawled all over the newsday last nite;</p>
<p>mccakin leads!</p>
<p>and people are happy about this</p>
<p>man, I live in a bubble, before I went to vist my friend over the summer I thought there was no way the democrats could lose, but all of my friends are “considering” mccain (translation, they are voting for the white guy)</p>
<p>we’ve lived in a bubble here at the lake, we know things most people don’t know.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/21/so-much-for-that-respectful-campaign-from-ol-mcnasty/#comment-1590272</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;gone now, but i took a screen shot. it was a link to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.kintera.org/site/c.ddJBKJNsFqG/b.4394827/k.9532/Petition_to_the_US_Congress/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp?c=ddJBKJNsFqG&amp;b=4394827&amp;en=6eIFLLMkF4LALTNzE8KALSNzGlLNLTOwGcJNLZMCKoJZF&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; (warning).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gone now, but i took a screen shot. it was a link to <a href="https://www.kintera.org/site/c.ddJBKJNsFqG/b.4394827/k.9532/Petition_to_the_US_Congress/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp?c=ddJBKJNsFqG&amp;b=4394827&amp;en=6eIFLLMkF4LALTNzE8KALSNzGlLNLTOwGcJNLZMCKoJZF" rel="nofollow">this</a> (warning).</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t know what happened to the first part of the comment but “…as I understand it…” FDL does not control the ads as they are placed by third party.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t know what happened to the first part of the comment but “…as I understand it…” FDL does not control the ads as they are placed by third party.</p>
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		<title>By: spacefish</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/21/so-much-for-that-respectful-campaign-from-ol-mcnasty/#comment-1590270</link>
		<dc:creator>spacefish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I get hung up on Obama throwing Wes Clark under the bus. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Agreed.  This may be why we are not seeing Obama’s surrogates attacking McCain - they are afraid of Obama throwing them under the bus with Clark.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I get hung up on Obama throwing Wes Clark under the bus. </p>
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<p>Agreed.  This may be why we are not seeing Obama’s surrogates attacking McCain &#8211; they are afraid of Obama throwing them under the bus with Clark.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn’t get it but the ads, as I understand it
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&lt;p&gt;Which is why anti-abortion, or McCain campaign or other right wing themes show up sometimes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But when I get an ad from a right wing organization, I make sure I click through so that they can help to pay the hamsters running the servers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn’t get it but the ads, as I understand it
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<p>Which is why anti-abortion, or McCain campaign or other right wing themes show up sometimes.</p>
<p>But when I get an ad from a right wing organization, I make sure I click through so that they can help to pay the hamsters running the servers.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for that link. i’m certainly interested. ian has written a bit on the topic and hugh has written the best summary on it at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netrootsmass.net/Hugh/Bush_list.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;#365 on hugh’s list&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for that link. i’m certainly interested. ian has written a bit on the topic and hugh has written the best summary on it at <a href="http://www.netrootsmass.net/Hugh/Bush_list.html" rel="nofollow">#365 on hugh’s list</a>).</p>
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