One thing I, in all my travels here -- Americans want a respectful campaign. They do, they want it. Now, people say, well, negative ads move numbers. They may. But do we have to go to the lowest common denominator? I don't think so.
John McCain, July 2008
So the latest WSJ/NBC poll (the same one showing Barack Obama's lead slipping away) also shows that Americans think John McCain is running a negative campaign:
By a nearly six-to-one margin, voters say Republican presidential candidate John McCain is running a negative campaign against his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.
Nearly three in 10 voters, 29%, pointed to McCain as the candidate running a negative campaign, compared to just 5% who said Obama is running a negative campaign. McCain’s 29% rating is the highest of any one candidate in the previous two presidential elections according to the WSJ/NBC News survey.
Know what? They're right. It's not just their opinion. It's a quantifiable fact.
The other week the Boston Globe created a word pile (click on the graphic to see it full size) analyzing the words being used by the two campaigns and teasing out which were used the most, and in what connotation. Obama's campaign, as you can see, is largely about Obama, and it's overwhelmingly positive. McCain's campaign, like a mirror image, is likewise all about Obama, and it's overwhelmingly negative.
It wasn't exactly by accident that his high-school classmates dubbed him "McNasty."
[H/t to Silent Patriot.]
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The graphic’s priceless
What would a word pile of network and cable tv coverage reveal? It sure would be funny seeing that the business channels were running a negative campaign against Obama.
Or that the objective networks were slanted in their cover coverage.
sorry only meant to say coverage at 2 not cover.
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The graphics are informative. Wow, McCain is running a campaign on country first but the word country is not highlighted by him but it is by Obama.
McCain seems to have gone negative around the same time that he lost his mind?
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McCain’s campaign is the latest ad campaign for a company called War, Inc. Read more. http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008.....ccain.html
Have you ever made a comment that isn’t pimping your own blog?
Negative campaigns work. When McCain takes office, we will all
wonder why Obama was so naive to believe that a positive campaign
would work. We will also wonder why the Clintons effectively supported
McCain. Of course, that’s easy to answer: it’s always just about
the Clintons.
Just what is the record for a Presidential Campaign before they start going negative? I think Obama has this record sewn up we need to push that story.
I think if Obama would move Left he wouldn’t have to go negative.
Granted the economy is a mess, we are losing a war, people are losing their homes, gas is just below $4 a gallon, Obama should be way way ahead now.
If not Obama, then someone else need to go negative on that negative little man McCain. He is getting a free ride and it shows in the polls.
he wouldn’t even have to move that far. if he would only stake out a position and defend it honestly instead of trying to be all things to all people.
That’s naive. Obama needs to do both, but will probably so neither.
DLC Strategy 101.
“By a nearly six-to-one margin, voters say Republican presidential candidate John McCain is running a negative campaign against his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.”
…and, apparently, it is also working on those same voters. Go figure.
Jonathan Alter has a strong commentary up at Newsweek online on this, too.
Calls it the smear gap. He holds McCAin accountable…so do I. It was McCain’s decision to choose the smear road and the merchants of slime who pave it.
But it’s the media who enable it…it’s the bbq-stained Vapid Vapors crowd that helps perpetuate it.
Guess they must not have mirrors up in Cokie’s enclave with the rest of the VVs at Nantucket.
DLC = The Democratic Losership Committee?
There is a difference between going negative and defending yourself from lies by calling McCain out as a liar.
Going negative and making stuff up like McCain is doing is negative.
Calling McCain A liar is tough but truthful and I don’t think its negative.
I do get the feeling sometimes that obama wants to let lose on the attacks and he does want to take a definite position on some items but his handlers are holding him back. I hope I am right but if he is not going to stand up to his handlers then how the heck can he stand up to the Senate, the people?
Well even if he just defended a position that would be good.
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McNasty, eh? There are classmates still alive to remember that?
It is only August, doldrum time. A lot can change in just a few months. I hope.
Sometimes complete refresh works for me.
For starters, it would help if Obama quit referring to McCain as “Honorable” — he is not.
more weirdness - am i the only one who saw the ad against abortion rights? yuck.
Sorry OT, but it is about time someone investigate and report on the oil speculation market…I hope someone at Firedoglake will write about it
from WaPO:
A Few Speculators Dominate Vast Market for Oil Trading
But when the Commodity Futures Trading Commission examined Vitol’s books last month, it found that the firm was in fact more of a speculator, holding oil contracts as a profit-making investment rather than a means of lining up the actual delivery of fuel. Even more surprising to the commodities markets was the massive size of Vitol’s portfolio — at one point in July, the firm held 11 percent of all the oil contracts on the regulated New York Mercantile Exchange.
The discovery revealed how an individual financial player had gained enormous sway over the oil market without the knowledge of regulators. Other CFTC data showed that a significant amount of trading activity was concentrated in the hands of just a few speculators…
The CFTC, which learned about the nature of Vitol’s activities only after making an unusual request for data from the firm, now reports that financial firms speculating for their clients or for themselves account for about 81 percent of the oil contracts on NYMEX, a far bigger share than had previously been stated by the agency. That figure may rise in coming weeks as the CFTC checks the status of other big traders.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....038;sub=AR
What? Where?
Elliott @ 20:
Yes.
McCain is well into his “second childhood.” Every day he becomes more elderly and less mature.
(1) Obama should go on the attack so he doesn’t have to keep defending himself. He should send out his people and free up the 527’s to defend him.
(2) Going negative does not necessarily involve nasty, lying ads. That is the way the Reps go negative, but negative advertising, in general, means pointing out negatives about your opponent - they can, and should, be true. Obama should be attacking McCain on his “strengths” - his immediate reaction to any foreign policy situation is a military solution. McCain says he has great advisors, so Obama should be attacking their credentials - lobbyists (for foreign governments), Forclosure Phil, etc.
Is there a link to it?
I get hung up on Obama throwing Wes Clark under the bus. What Wes was saying was 100% correct and was not negative beyond not buying this prepared hero crap. Mcsame was a lousy pilot who got his ass shot down. He did his duty? in captivity as did many others. Beyond that he has been a self pimping, greedy ass hat.
thanks for that link. i’m certainly interested. ian has written a bit on the topic and hugh has written the best summary on it at #365 on hugh’s list).
I didn’t get it but the ads, as I understand it
Which is why anti-abortion, or McCain campaign or other right wing themes show up sometimes.
But when I get an ad from a right wing organization, I make sure I click through so that they can help to pay the hamsters running the servers.
Agreed. This may be why we are not seeing Obama’s surrogates attacking McCain - they are afraid of Obama throwing them under the bus with Clark.
Don’t know what happened to the first part of the comment but “…as I understand it…” FDL does not control the ads as they are placed by third party.
gone now, but i took a screen shot. it was a link to this (warning).
headline news here in long island, sprawled all over the newsday last nite;
mccakin leads!
and people are happy about this
man, I live in a bubble, before I went to vist my friend over the summer I thought there was no way the democrats could lose, but all of my friends are “considering” mccain (translation, they are voting for the white guy)
we’ve lived in a bubble here at the lake, we know things most people don’t know.
Maybe McCain is a self-styled hero, so what, It is the only thing the man has done himself in his entire life. He has nothing else to show for seventy two years. Think just how little that is. His great wealth belongs to another, his position comes by way of fraud, his years have put him into decline. He has no ability. When he accounts for his life, he has nothing in the balance. Not even his shadow can he call his own. Sad wrinkly drooly old man.
The dems need to drive one theme from down ticket to top
RETHUGS = SLEEZE
I think there is something in most Democrats, almost by definition, which believes in reason, believes that the electorate is informed, believes that people prefer courtesy and decency, and believes that using the disreputable tactics of the enemy reduces one the being no better than the enemy. Unfortunately, these inate beliefs seem not to match reality and I guess we have to change what we believe important in order to win.
There’s a new WSJ article (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121928285999558901.html) out about McCain’s camp’s plans to sideline the Democratic convention. The voters really need to have a chance to focus on each party’s convewntion in order to understand what the platforms are, how they differ, etc., without the noise from these shennanigans. What’s the best way to get this message to the MSM?