Comments on: Merkel and Bush are MAD To Let Georgia Into NATO http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:11:00 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: PraedorAtrebates http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588830 PraedorAtrebates Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:10:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588830 <p>Britain has already been on the outs with Russia over the poisoning of what’s his name with polonium a year or so ago. Plus, Britain is still Bush’s bitch.</p> Britain has already been on the outs with Russia over the poisoning of what’s his name with polonium a year or so ago. Plus, Britain is still Bush’s bitch.

]]> By: PraedorAtrebates http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588825 PraedorAtrebates Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:08:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588825 <p>Western Ukraine is pro-Russian. It is only in the eastern portion of the country that “Russians are savages”.</p> <p>Russia will NOT give up Sevastopol.</p> Western Ukraine is pro-Russian. It is only in the eastern portion of the country that “Russians are savages”.

Russia will NOT give up Sevastopol.

]]> By: ekunin http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588707 ekunin Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:03:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588707 <p>Let me suggest that we have all been driven crazy by inferiority, the perception that human nature is vile. This makes us suicidal as we pursue the impossible, seeking to prove ourselves or our group (nation) superior to the rest. Negative collective imagery causes hierarchy and hierarchy, whether individual or national is the problem. Hierarchy is insane because no matter what we accumulate in this life, we die, just like everyone else. Our distinctions are foolishness, just as letting Georgia into NATO under present circumstances is foolishness. What do our “leaders” seek to prove? That we follow them proves only that we are as crazy as they are.</p> Let me suggest that we have all been driven crazy by inferiority, the perception that human nature is vile. This makes us suicidal as we pursue the impossible, seeking to prove ourselves or our group (nation) superior to the rest. Negative collective imagery causes hierarchy and hierarchy, whether individual or national is the problem. Hierarchy is insane because no matter what we accumulate in this life, we die, just like everyone else. Our distinctions are foolishness, just as letting Georgia into NATO under present circumstances is foolishness. What do our “leaders” seek to prove? That we follow them proves only that we are as crazy as they are.

]]> By: sona http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588687 sona Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:36:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588687 <p>NATO is a US construct but it still requires individual member nations’ (European) Parliamentary approval to commit troops. Given that, it does not matter what Merkel says, European Parliaments will not go to war to defend the territorial integrity of Stalin’s homeland. Georgia’s borders are in dispute and autonomy agreed to for Abkhazia or S Ossetia will ensure NATO members’ noncooperation regardless of Merkel or the USA. Remember that NATO agrees to go to war in defence of any member nation’s territorial integrity. Georgia in NATO isn’t going to happen.</p> NATO is a US construct but it still requires individual member nations’ (European) Parliamentary approval to commit troops. Given that, it does not matter what Merkel says, European Parliaments will not go to war to defend the territorial integrity of Stalin’s homeland. Georgia’s borders are in dispute and autonomy agreed to for Abkhazia or S Ossetia will ensure NATO members’ noncooperation regardless of Merkel or the USA. Remember that NATO agrees to go to war in defence of any member nation’s territorial integrity. Georgia in NATO isn’t going to happen.

]]> By: T-Bear http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588666 T-Bear Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:48:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588666 <p>This is sooo EPU’d</p> <p>The Guardian ran this story this morning. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/20/georgia.nato" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl.....orgia.nato</a><br /> It seems the stupid is spreading, the British minister is doing just what his masters are wanting. The British government is controlled by Neocon-WashingtonDC. Sarcozy of France is already yapping at the heels of Russia demanding unconditional withdrawal immediately, not at all what was agreed to by the Russians who are there, in Ossetia BY TREATY, to maintain peace, having approval of 90% of the resident population to do so. Merkle of Germany is in a dilemma, doesn’t know whether to shit or go blind, has decided to go blind and support the American position to extend NATO into the bear’s den. </p> <p>When will the adults take hold of the asylum? Or is that too much to hope for? Anymore, to qualify to be an American, proof of lobotomy is required. Good thing though, when all goes down the toobs, it will take the establishment with it, so far removed is it from reality, it will be unable to save itself, even with its great wealth. The demise of the Amerikan monster is the only way the world will be able to survive; survival is not an option as long as that monster exists. Sad</p> This is sooo EPU’d

The Guardian ran this story this morning. http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..orgia.nato
It seems the stupid is spreading, the British minister is doing just what his masters are wanting. The British government is controlled by Neocon-WashingtonDC. Sarcozy of France is already yapping at the heels of Russia demanding unconditional withdrawal immediately, not at all what was agreed to by the Russians who are there, in Ossetia BY TREATY, to maintain peace, having approval of 90% of the resident population to do so. Merkle of Germany is in a dilemma, doesn’t know whether to shit or go blind, has decided to go blind and support the American position to extend NATO into the bear’s den.

When will the adults take hold of the asylum? Or is that too much to hope for? Anymore, to qualify to be an American, proof of lobotomy is required. Good thing though, when all goes down the toobs, it will take the establishment with it, so far removed is it from reality, it will be unable to save itself, even with its great wealth. The demise of the Amerikan monster is the only way the world will be able to survive; survival is not an option as long as that monster exists. Sad

]]> By: T-Bear http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588646 T-Bear Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:40:02 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588646 <p>Exceptional post Ian, the comments are also starting to show geopolitical and historical awareness as well. I do suppose it to be asking too much, if all these things are in mind and accounted for, before Yanks and their government start moving their lips. /s</p> Exceptional post Ian, the comments are also starting to show geopolitical and historical awareness as well. I do suppose it to be asking too much, if all these things are in mind and accounted for, before Yanks and their government start moving their lips. /s

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588585 bigbrother Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:30:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588585 <p>Th Georgia week exposed a great deal of unknown oil Oligarchy influence in Centra Asia. Stalin was from that area. Millions of Ukrainians were starved by Stalin in the grain famine.<br /> The centralization of collective farmimg put the peasnants off of the land.<br /> The corporative centralizin of farms in America has done the equivalent to our rural population. The same in colonial Africa and Communist China.<br /> Can we go back to the old Eurpean model of families living off of small parcel like say rural zoning in many patrs of califormia. A fish pong for food and water storage for drinking, Garden areas and some cash crops? This has been a week of massive amounts os information.<br /> The Oil Oligarchy is very aggressive and doeb not have Americas interest at heart. That is very disturbing and in fact war for oil is the drumbeat og Globalization.<br /> North of Iran East of Turkey and West of the Caspian Sea oil is farmed and piped/shipped West. They want it to go South hence the Wars and Militaryases in Iraq and other ME states.<br /> I don’t think the Oil Oligarch recognises states. And the Neocons are going around our government and legislature.<br /> Their is and has been a huge and ongoing conspiracy against the American people.</p> Th Georgia week exposed a great deal of unknown oil Oligarchy influence in Centra Asia. Stalin was from that area. Millions of Ukrainians were starved by Stalin in the grain famine.
The centralization of collective farmimg put the peasnants off of the land.
The corporative centralizin of farms in America has done the equivalent to our rural population. The same in colonial Africa and Communist China.
Can we go back to the old Eurpean model of families living off of small parcel like say rural zoning in many patrs of califormia. A fish pong for food and water storage for drinking, Garden areas and some cash crops? This has been a week of massive amounts os information.
The Oil Oligarchy is very aggressive and doeb not have Americas interest at heart. That is very disturbing and in fact war for oil is the drumbeat og Globalization.
North of Iran East of Turkey and West of the Caspian Sea oil is farmed and piped/shipped West. They want it to go South hence the Wars and Militaryases in Iraq and other ME states.
I don’t think the Oil Oligarch recognises states. And the Neocons are going around our government and legislature.
Their is and has been a huge and ongoing conspiracy against the American people.

]]> By: kirk murphy http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588430 kirk murphy Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:33:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588430 <blockquote><p>McCain:</p> <blockquote><p> I know I speak for every American when I say to him [Saakshavili] “Today, we are all Georgians!” </p></blockquote> <p>Does he? Are we?</p></blockquote> <p>Nope. I’m a Californian.</p>

McCain:

I know I speak for every American when I say to him [Saakshavili] “Today, we are all Georgians!”

Does he? Are we?

Nope. I’m a Californian.

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588407 bigbrother Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:03:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588407 <p>“Bush doesn’t surprise me but I assumed Merkel was smarter. Maybe some of his stupid rubbed off during that unsolicited shoulder rub.”</p> <p>That is he implanted the CIA control chip…weren’t her talking it was the chip program.</p> “Bush doesn’t surprise me but I assumed Merkel was smarter. Maybe some of his stupid rubbed off during that unsolicited shoulder rub.”

That is he implanted the CIA control chip…weren’t her talking it was the chip program.

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588405 bigbrother Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:59:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/merkel-and-bush-are-mad-to-let-georgia-into-nato/#comment-1588405 <p>Damn your on point as usual.We don’t have to sift through spin to get the point or get to the bottom. Where are our strategic thinkers?</p> Damn your on point as usual.We don’t have to sift through spin to get the point or get to the bottom. Where are our strategic thinkers?

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