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	<title>Comments on: It Must Be True; Team McCain Goes for the POW Defense First</title>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/it-must-be-true-team-mccain-goes-for-the-pow-defense-first/#comment-1588247</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A POW acting less than honorably in all aspects of life, before, during and for decades after his imprisonment?  Heavens.  Who could imagine that life might be so complicated that a prison (or torture) experience might break down inhibitions or create a mental framework that allowed the survivor to rationalize &lt;em&gt;anything &lt;/em&gt;to get what he wanted or needed or had to have?  Like the Presidency.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Prisoner survival tales are abundant, whether about the Gulags or their czarist predecessors, German concentration camps, or Japanese internment camps.  Soon, we will have them about Gitmo.  Or, for those who prefer prisons of the mind, there’s always Conrad or Kafka.  I suggest that St. John start with an easy one: James Clavell’s, King Rat; it’s available in a read aloud format for the busy or reading impaired.  Or Solzhenitsyn’s, A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich; it’s a third as long.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fantasy that good and evil are polar opposites rather than opposite strands of the DNA helix makes for satisfying drama, but not a realistic portrayal of what a prisoner of the mind or body endures.  Not that anything Mr. Obama has done qualifies as attacking Mr. McSame’s POW experience.  Attacking his limited skills as making him suitable to work in the Oval Office?  That’s fair game and Obama’s not doing enough of it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A POW acting less than honorably in all aspects of life, before, during and for decades after his imprisonment?  Heavens.  Who could imagine that life might be so complicated that a prison (or torture) experience might break down inhibitions or create a mental framework that allowed the survivor to rationalize <em>anything </em>to get what he wanted or needed or had to have?  Like the Presidency.</p>
<p>Prisoner survival tales are abundant, whether about the Gulags or their czarist predecessors, German concentration camps, or Japanese internment camps.  Soon, we will have them about Gitmo.  Or, for those who prefer prisons of the mind, there’s always Conrad or Kafka.  I suggest that St. John start with an easy one: James Clavell’s, King Rat; it’s available in a read aloud format for the busy or reading impaired.  Or Solzhenitsyn’s, A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich; it’s a third as long.  </p>
<p>The fantasy that good and evil are polar opposites rather than opposite strands of the DNA helix makes for satisfying drama, but not a realistic portrayal of what a prisoner of the mind or body endures.  Not that anything Mr. Obama has done qualifies as attacking Mr. McSame’s POW experience.  Attacking his limited skills as making him suitable to work in the Oval Office?  That’s fair game and Obama’s not doing enough of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Primrose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess everyone has seen this website.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.vietnamveteransagai...../index.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another website to pass along to friends, just in case they might have missed it??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess everyone has seen this website.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vietnamveteransagai&#8230;../index.htm</a></p>
<p>Another website to pass along to friends, just in case they might have missed it??</p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/it-must-be-true-team-mccain-goes-for-the-pow-defense-first/#comment-1588099</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Accepting the Word of the Bible on faith is one thing, Pastor Rick. Accepting the word of John McCain, a known philanderer, is quite another.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually there’s little, if any, difference.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Accepting the Word of the Bible on faith is one thing, Pastor Rick. Accepting the word of John McCain, a known philanderer, is quite another.</p>
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<p>Actually there’s little, if any, difference.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/it-must-be-true-team-mccain-goes-for-the-pow-defense-first/#comment-1588034</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey! C’mon!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mc$ame still has both oars in the water.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They just happen to both be on the same side of the boat …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;~D&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! C’mon!</p>
<p>Mc$ame still has both oars in the water.</p>
<p>They just happen to both be on the same side of the boat …</p>
<p>;~D</p>
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		<title>By: DrBong</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/it-must-be-true-team-mccain-goes-for-the-pow-defense-first/#comment-1588020</link>
		<dc:creator>DrBong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;or off the rocker&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or off the rocker</p>
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		<title>By: darkblack</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/it-must-be-true-team-mccain-goes-for-the-pow-defense-first/#comment-1588010</link>
		<dc:creator>darkblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/2779127469_63c20d38e2.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fits him good&lt;/a&gt;, for ‘off the rack’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/2779127469_63c20d38e2.jpg" rel="nofollow">Fits him good</a>, for ‘off the rack’.</p>
<p>;&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/it-must-be-true-team-mccain-goes-for-the-pow-defense-first/#comment-1587993</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Margot, thanks for that link.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let us hope that Doctor Phillip Butlers words are widely read …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a former POW, with McCain, whom he personally knows and has known since the early sixties, and as a much decorated combat vet, what he has to say needs to be heard by ALL who would ‘choose’ a President this November.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perspective is NOT ‘nuance’, it is a basic necessity, required of all who would pretend to democracy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margot, thanks for that link.</p>
<p>Let us hope that Doctor Phillip Butlers words are widely read …</p>
<p>As a former POW, with McCain, whom he personally knows and has known since the early sixties, and as a much decorated combat vet, what he has to say needs to be heard by ALL who would ‘choose’ a President this November.</p>
<p>Perspective is NOT ‘nuance’, it is a basic necessity, required of all who would pretend to democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;gotcha . . .or Lima Charlie as our friend would say :D&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you aren’t in the path of this mess as well are ya ?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gotcha . . .or Lima Charlie as our friend would say :D</p>
<p>you aren’t in the path of this mess as well are ya ?</p>
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		<title>By: DrBong</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/it-must-be-true-team-mccain-goes-for-the-pow-defense-first/#comment-1587986</link>
		<dc:creator>DrBong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Photoshop v999.darkblack?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photoshop v999.darkblack?</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/19/it-must-be-true-team-mccain-goes-for-the-pow-defense-first/#comment-1587985</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;in case none y’all heard this before - this anecdote was the Cracking the McCode moment for me -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McCain was released less than a month and was visited by some family friends, one of whom had been contracted by the Pentagon Papers Prosecution team - McCain offered to testify against Ellsberg and Russo. No, he didn’t have a material thing to offer and it was clear to the storyteller it was fairly naked opportunism&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the idea that this young man who could still barely move was all about self aggrandizement was simply eye opening&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in case none y’all heard this before &#8211; this anecdote was the Cracking the McCode moment for me -</p>
<p>McCain was released less than a month and was visited by some family friends, one of whom had been contracted by the Pentagon Papers Prosecution team &#8211; McCain offered to testify against Ellsberg and Russo. No, he didn’t have a material thing to offer and it was clear to the storyteller it was fairly naked opportunism</p>
<p>the idea that this young man who could still barely move was all about self aggrandizement was simply eye opening</p>
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