Comments on: Why Democrats Face An Uphill Battle In The Suburbs http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:31:59 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: i4u2bi http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1587274 i4u2bi Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:56:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1587274 <p><a href="http://webb.senate.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://webb.senate.gov/</a></p> http://webb.senate.gov/

]]> By: NYBri http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586533 NYBri Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:47:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586533 <p>I’m glad Matt has finally come out of the hole that is DC to do some canvassing in the real world to find out something many of us have known for years…</p> <blockquote><p>As most of the country is suburban, it is very hard to find public spaces where politics can be conducted. Robocalls, TV ads, radio ads, direct mail, and phone banks are all proxies for a lack of civic culture,</p></blockquote> <p>duh.</p> I’m glad Matt has finally come out of the hole that is DC to do some canvassing in the real world to find out something many of us have known for years…

As most of the country is suburban, it is very hard to find public spaces where politics can be conducted. Robocalls, TV ads, radio ads, direct mail, and phone banks are all proxies for a lack of civic culture,

duh.

]]> By: ratfood http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586429 ratfood Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:28:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586429 <p>The NYT says Obama will announce a running mate sometime between Wednesday morning and Friday night. The McCain people say that he will announce his choice on Aug. 29, contingent on there being a lightning storm before then that is sufficient to reanimate the body of Ronald Reagan. Party leaders say the two terms served previously do not disqualify him from serving as vice president because the reanimated Reagan contains more than fifty percent new (recycled) parts.</p> The NYT says Obama will announce a running mate sometime between Wednesday morning and Friday night. The McCain people say that he will announce his choice on Aug. 29, contingent on there being a lightning storm before then that is sufficient to reanimate the body of Ronald Reagan. Party leaders say the two terms served previously do not disqualify him from serving as vice president because the reanimated Reagan contains more than fifty percent new (recycled) parts.

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586428 dmac Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:27:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586428 <p>it took twenty minutes–but on hannity and colmes, warren just showed his peacock feathers on a question from hannity…mr understated warren has been saying, just wanted the candidates to showin their beliefs, knowing where the cards will fall…hannity blew it, asked him about jeremiah wright and his fundie soap box came out..lol..oh my….now dick morris on about vp’s and obama, he makes me want to scrub my skin rawusually can’t take more than 5 seconds, going back to that, guy gives me major creeps…….pastor warren on larry king second half….1st part was pawlenty and mckaskill, i keep trying to give her a chance but keep thinking, she’s not so swift, is she?</p> <p>bbl</p> it took twenty minutes–but on hannity and colmes, warren just showed his peacock feathers on a question from hannity…mr understated warren has been saying, just wanted the candidates to showin their beliefs, knowing where the cards will fall…hannity blew it, asked him about jeremiah wright and his fundie soap box came out..lol..oh my….now dick morris on about vp’s and obama, he makes me want to scrub my skin rawusually can’t take more than 5 seconds, going back to that, guy gives me major creeps…….pastor warren on larry king second half….1st part was pawlenty and mckaskill, i keep trying to give her a chance but keep thinking, she’s not so swift, is she?

bbl

]]> By: ratfood http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586413 ratfood Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:15:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586413 <blockquote><p>Well, I guess the McCain campaign now have what they need — via KO’s commentary — to march into NBC headquarters and complain about partisan coverage.</p></blockquote> <p>Of course that would happen regardless of whether NBC prostrates itself before the McCain campaign or stands up to it.</p>

Well, I guess the McCain campaign now have what they need — via KO’s commentary — to march into NBC headquarters and complain about partisan coverage.

Of course that would happen regardless of whether NBC prostrates itself before the McCain campaign or stands up to it.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586407 selise Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:13:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586407 <blockquote><p> the preferred lifestyle in many of the suburban neighborhoods was simply to roll into their fortresses at the end of the workday, roll the garage door behind them, and retreat to their little patches o’ heaven.</p></blockquote> <p>not sure what to call it, but that’s not a neighborhood.</p>

the preferred lifestyle in many of the suburban neighborhoods was simply to roll into their fortresses at the end of the workday, roll the garage door behind them, and retreat to their little patches o’ heaven.

not sure what to call it, but that’s not a neighborhood.

]]> By: Marion in Savannah http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586403 Marion in Savannah Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:07:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586403 <p>During either the Olympics or the conventions spoilers are fine by me! I’ll catch KO later or over the toobz, but I’m one of the Olympics junkies and appreciate all the spoilers I can get!</p> During either the Olympics or the conventions spoilers are fine by me! I’ll catch KO later or over the toobz, but I’m one of the Olympics junkies and appreciate all the spoilers I can get!

]]> By: Scarecrow http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586402 Scarecrow Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:03:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586402 <p>Well, I guess the McCain campaign now have what they need — via KO’s commentary — to march into NBC headquarters and complain about partisan coverage. </p> <p>KO was, as usual, over the top, but I couldn’t agree more with his conclusion: It’s time for McCain to GROW UP! </p> <p>It’s out there.</p> Well, I guess the McCain campaign now have what they need — via KO’s commentary — to march into NBC headquarters and complain about partisan coverage.

KO was, as usual, over the top, but I couldn’t agree more with his conclusion: It’s time for McCain to GROW UP!

It’s out there.

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586401 perris Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:03:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586401 <blockquote><p>For Democrats, it takes a special awareness and finely tuned framing. You have to speak in their language.</p></blockquote> <p>I don’t know how long I’ve been posting here at the lake but for that long I have been saying just that david</p> <p>the republicans have managed to win the war of words, they have the proper framing and they know how to push buttons</p> <p>but there’s the thing, the buttons the republicans push are OUR buttons, WE CAN STRIKE BACK with and hit them even harder with their own rhetoric</p> <p>good point mr neiwert</p>

For Democrats, it takes a special awareness and finely tuned framing. You have to speak in their language.

I don’t know how long I’ve been posting here at the lake but for that long I have been saying just that david

the republicans have managed to win the war of words, they have the proper framing and they know how to push buttons

but there’s the thing, the buttons the republicans push are OUR buttons, WE CAN STRIKE BACK with and hit them even harder with their own rhetoric

good point mr neiwert

]]> By: David Neiwert http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586400 David Neiwert Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:01:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/why-democrats-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-suburbs/#comment-1586400 <p>I suppose I should have added “without selling out your own principles.” Which can be a very fine balancing act. In my experience, plain speaking and common sense are the framework for building that trust. And fortunately, Darcy is stellar at both.</p> I suppose I should have added “without selling out your own principles.” Which can be a very fine balancing act. In my experience, plain speaking and common sense are the framework for building that trust. And fortunately, Darcy is stellar at both.

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