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	<title>Comments on: I Love The Smell Of Wingnut Whining In The Morning</title>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/i-love-the-smell-of-wingnut-whining-in-the-morning/#comment-1586143</link>
		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://harpers.org/archive/2008/08/hbc-90003418&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scott Horton&lt;/a&gt; has a very insightful post on the trials at Gitmo.&lt;br /&gt;
Take the time read this… He is as usual spot on and illustrates how this administration is trying to use these trials for Political Gain…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT<br /><a href="http://harpers.org/archive/2008/08/hbc-90003418" rel="nofollow">Scott Horton</a> has a very insightful post on the trials at Gitmo.<br />
Take the time read this… He is as usual spot on and illustrates how this administration is trying to use these trials for Political Gain…</p>
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		<title>By: mikeinohio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/i-love-the-smell-of-wingnut-whining-in-the-morning/#comment-1586142</link>
		<dc:creator>mikeinohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;But that’s because such a story would’ve fit into the prewritten media narratives about those men (Gore the liar, Kerry the not-so-heroic vet). Realizing that John McCain is lifting campaign stories like campaign cookbook recipes cuts against the prewritten media narrative about John McCain (Mr. Honorable and Honor-bound POW Vet of Mavericky Honor).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Funny thing. I wonder how many of these same wingnuts indulged in bashing John Kerry’s military record on far more specious grounds? Like, perhaps, every last one of them? (Maguire does duly note call himself “a proud Swiftboater myself,” but doesn’t seem to realize how bereft of a leg upon which to stand this leaves him.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mmmmmm. Smells like … victory.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But here, Dave, will be the difference.  Look for NBC to issue some sort of “clarification” on this so as to make clear that &lt;i&gt;they don’t believe&lt;/i&gt; any such thing.  And that they &lt;i&gt;“really do think that McCain is swell”&lt;/i&gt; and that by no means did they intend to impugn his status as a real, true American hero.  And don’t be surprised if Andrea Mitchell soft-pedals some sort of “recantation” in which she says she was “misunderstood”.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is how things are different in this bizarro world today.  The wingnuts whining about things which have absolutely no merit will get results.  The Democrats and liberals attempts to point out, you know……….&lt;strong&gt;ACTUAL FACTS&lt;/strong&gt; will always be met with tut-tutting and apathy on the part of the corporate media.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The wingnuts do it because IT WORKS FOR THEM!  In the end, they will get what they want from the corporate media.  Unlike Democrats and liberals, who are always painted as deranged, angry and living in some delusional fantasy world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wish I could also believe that it “Smells……..like victory”.  Somehow I think history will once again be repeated here.  And all we will be able to do is shake our heads in disbelief as all the wingnuts and their media cohorts get another good laugh at the Dems expense.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But that’s because such a story would’ve fit into the prewritten media narratives about those men (Gore the liar, Kerry the not-so-heroic vet). Realizing that John McCain is lifting campaign stories like campaign cookbook recipes cuts against the prewritten media narrative about John McCain (Mr. Honorable and Honor-bound POW Vet of Mavericky Honor).</p>
<p>Funny thing. I wonder how many of these same wingnuts indulged in bashing John Kerry’s military record on far more specious grounds? Like, perhaps, every last one of them? (Maguire does duly note call himself “a proud Swiftboater myself,” but doesn’t seem to realize how bereft of a leg upon which to stand this leaves him.)</p>
<p>Mmmmmm. Smells like … victory.</p>
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<p>But here, Dave, will be the difference.  Look for NBC to issue some sort of “clarification” on this so as to make clear that <i>they don’t believe</i> any such thing.  And that they <i>“really do think that McCain is swell”</i> and that by no means did they intend to impugn his status as a real, true American hero.  And don’t be surprised if Andrea Mitchell soft-pedals some sort of “recantation” in which she says she was “misunderstood”.  </p>
<p>That is how things are different in this bizarro world today.  The wingnuts whining about things which have absolutely no merit will get results.  The Democrats and liberals attempts to point out, you know……….<strong>ACTUAL FACTS</strong> will always be met with tut-tutting and apathy on the part of the corporate media.</p>
<p>The wingnuts do it because IT WORKS FOR THEM!  In the end, they will get what they want from the corporate media.  Unlike Democrats and liberals, who are always painted as deranged, angry and living in some delusional fantasy world.</p>
<p>I wish I could also believe that it “Smells……..like victory”.  Somehow I think history will once again be repeated here.  And all we will be able to do is shake our heads in disbelief as all the wingnuts and their media cohorts get another good laugh at the Dems expense.</p>
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		<title>By: PraedorAtrebates</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/i-love-the-smell-of-wingnut-whining-in-the-morning/#comment-1586138</link>
		<dc:creator>PraedorAtrebates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps a sign that Obama is actually worse than he is already known to be in imprompt/unscripted debate or q-n-a.  Perhaps he showed a bit of what really is inside, and it may not be all that great.  The questions ARE obvious and the answers should be second nature (and NOT contrived to thread some bogus, &lt;i&gt;imagined&lt;/i&gt; “center” as defined by the DLC).  The fact that he did stumble on such simple, obvious questions may say a lot (and it isn’t good).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a sign that Obama is actually worse than he is already known to be in imprompt/unscripted debate or q-n-a.  Perhaps he showed a bit of what really is inside, and it may not be all that great.  The questions ARE obvious and the answers should be second nature (and NOT contrived to thread some bogus, <i>imagined</i> “center” as defined by the DLC).  The fact that he did stumble on such simple, obvious questions may say a lot (and it isn’t good).</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/ron-brownstein-takes-ken-mehlmans-word-for-it-on-bipartisanship/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christy a couple of flights upstairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/ron-brownstein-takes-ken-mehlmans-word-for-it-on-bipartisanship/" rel="nofollow">Christy a couple of flights upstairs</a></p>
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		<title>By: tbsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;YES, you are correct.  But the problem is not everyone on the left agrees with that.  IMO if we are all created equal then absolutely everyone should have the same rights.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES, you are correct.  But the problem is not everyone on the left agrees with that.  IMO if we are all created equal then absolutely everyone should have the same rights.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
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		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;He may simply have sucked worse than McInsane in this venue. Afterall, the dog whistle stuff is entirely part of the GOP “brand”. They know, a priori, what the magic questions and answers are.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree, but … how could Obama not have anticipated questions about rights of the unborn and the rights of gays to marry?  What sentient American, what drunk in any bar, did not see that coming?  Yet he gave answers that sounded like he was making them up in real time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IMHO, he was overconfident and underprepared, like all post-1980 Demcoratic candidates have been (with the exception of Bill Clinton).  They seems to get wrong-footed over the most obvious things.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He may simply have sucked worse than McInsane in this venue. Afterall, the dog whistle stuff is entirely part of the GOP “brand”. They know, a priori, what the magic questions and answers are.</p>
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<p>I agree, but … how could Obama not have anticipated questions about rights of the unborn and the rights of gays to marry?  What sentient American, what drunk in any bar, did not see that coming?  Yet he gave answers that sounded like he was making them up in real time.</p>
<p>IMHO, he was overconfident and underprepared, like all post-1980 Demcoratic candidates have been (with the exception of Bill Clinton).  They seems to get wrong-footed over the most obvious things.</p>
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		<title>By: PraedorAtrebates</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/i-love-the-smell-of-wingnut-whining-in-the-morning/#comment-1586128</link>
		<dc:creator>PraedorAtrebates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, Obama is NOT known for being very good at unscripted question and answer.  He is good with prepared speechifying but NOT in straight-up debate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He may simply have sucked worse than McInsane in this venue.  Afterall, the dog whistle stuff is &lt;i&gt;entirely&lt;/i&gt; part of the GOP “brand”.  They know, a priori, what the magic questions and answers are.  They’ve been at that same schtick for decades.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, we have a rather sucky Obama in impromptu q-n-a, and an abysmal McInsane who is coached and drilled on the proper GOP answer to all things Jaysus! and warmongering and “patriotism”.  He can suck all he can in an uncontrolled environment but when in the very belly of the GOP beast (the “Jaysus! Mega-Church Hypocrite Ignoramus Corporation”) he can’t suck worse than a non-GOPer (at least in name…Obama IS GOP in overall temperament and leanings).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, Obama is NOT known for being very good at unscripted question and answer.  He is good with prepared speechifying but NOT in straight-up debate.</p>
<p>He may simply have sucked worse than McInsane in this venue.  Afterall, the dog whistle stuff is <i>entirely</i> part of the GOP “brand”.  They know, a priori, what the magic questions and answers are.  They’ve been at that same schtick for decades.  </p>
<p>So, we have a rather sucky Obama in impromptu q-n-a, and an abysmal McInsane who is coached and drilled on the proper GOP answer to all things Jaysus! and warmongering and “patriotism”.  He can suck all he can in an uncontrolled environment but when in the very belly of the GOP beast (the “Jaysus! Mega-Church Hypocrite Ignoramus Corporation”) he can’t suck worse than a non-GOPer (at least in name…Obama IS GOP in overall temperament and leanings).</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cliffschecter.firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/shulmans-interns-spoof-garretts-big-oil-ties-in-parody-video/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Newly Minted Front Pager upstairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;c’mon up and say howdy&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cliffschecter.firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/shulmans-interns-spoof-garretts-big-oil-ties-in-parody-video/" rel="nofollow">Newly Minted Front Pager upstairs</a></p>
<p>c’mon up and say howdy</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the linky&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Must be a lot of rich folks thinking that clown from Dobson’s church will be successful&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be a lot of rich folks thinking that clown from Dobson’s church will be successful</p>
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