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	<title>Comments on: Evan Bayh Shows How to Define McCain</title>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/evan-bayh-got-the-memo-on-how-to-define-mccain/#comment-1587285</link>
		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree. Cool-headed, circumspect-in-a-sage-way Obama v. bellicose, pitbull-headed, emotionally unstable, nuke-happy McCain is an excellant frame. I wish Obama’s camp would pitch that frame to the max, and there’s plenty of footage that backs this up (re: McCain singing bomb, bomb Iran, etc.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Cool-headed, circumspect-in-a-sage-way Obama v. bellicose, pitbull-headed, emotionally unstable, nuke-happy McCain is an excellant frame. I wish Obama’s camp would pitch that frame to the max, and there’s plenty of footage that backs this up (re: McCain singing bomb, bomb Iran, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
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		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for that link, Bob.  Good stuff.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link, Bob.  Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/evan-bayh-got-the-memo-on-how-to-define-mccain/#comment-1586412</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Often wrong, but never in doubt.” What Prez does that sound like? LOL&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nearly all of them?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Often wrong, but never in doubt.” What Prez does that sound like? LOL</p>
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<p>Nearly all of them?</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’d pretty much written Bayh off as another pretty boy politician lacking any substance. But maybe I was wrong. If Obama can tell him, “Sic’em” and get him to go after McLame like this, maybe that would be good. However, his voting record is pretty lame. &lt;a href=&quot;http://progressivepunch.org/members.jsp?search=selectName&amp;member=INIII&amp;chamber=Senate&amp;zip=&amp;x=18&amp;y=11&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Progressive Punch rates him 44th&lt;/a&gt;, which is down in Blue Dog territory. In fact, only two Senate Democrats rate lower than Bayh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d pretty much written Bayh off as another pretty boy politician lacking any substance. But maybe I was wrong. If Obama can tell him, “Sic’em” and get him to go after McLame like this, maybe that would be good. However, his voting record is pretty lame. <a href="http://progressivepunch.org/members.jsp?search=selectName&amp;member=INIII&amp;chamber=Senate&amp;zip=&amp;x=18&amp;y=11" rel="nofollow">Progressive Punch rates him 44th</a>, which is down in Blue Dog territory. In fact, only two Senate Democrats rate lower than Bayh.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: bonkers</title>
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		<dc:creator>bonkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now, the GOPs just lie about having supported it, and no one answers their lies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This has been the case for many years.  That’s why Media reform should be one of the top issues of our time IMO.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder if a movement could be started to have people cancel their cable/dish service and/or newspaper and magazine subscriptions, and then use that money to support your favorite New Media outlets like FDL.  Sure, a bunch of people will say, “I can’t live without my People Magazine or my ESPN!!” but we’re going to need some massive changes in behaviour to loosen the grip that Conglomerate Media has on our national discourse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My local paper goes for about $20/month (don’t have it), and what does cable go for nowadaze, $50/mo? (don’t have that either).  Imagine what FDL could do with a couple thousand people donating $10, $20, or more each month.  And most people would have a bunch of money left to give to Blue America.  Win-win all around!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seems like this is one of the few ways we’ll be able to make Ruturd Murdoch shake in his $1,000 loafers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now, the GOPs just lie about having supported it, and no one answers their lies.</p>
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<p>This has been the case for many years.  That’s why Media reform should be one of the top issues of our time IMO.</p>
<p>I wonder if a movement could be started to have people cancel their cable/dish service and/or newspaper and magazine subscriptions, and then use that money to support your favorite New Media outlets like FDL.  Sure, a bunch of people will say, “I can’t live without my People Magazine or my ESPN!!” but we’re going to need some massive changes in behaviour to loosen the grip that Conglomerate Media has on our national discourse.</p>
<p>My local paper goes for about $20/month (don’t have it), and what does cable go for nowadaze, $50/mo? (don’t have that either).  Imagine what FDL could do with a couple thousand people donating $10, $20, or more each month.  And most people would have a bunch of money left to give to Blue America.  Win-win all around!</p>
<p>Seems like this is one of the few ways we’ll be able to make Ruturd Murdoch shake in his $1,000 loafers.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/situation.room/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/situation.room/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
page for clips and transcripts for the situation room&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;here’s the gist of it….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;with typos.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;6:30&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;opening reporter–clips&lt;br /&gt;
who would they consult&lt;br /&gt;
obama-personal-wife&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;mccain-on message, campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
petraeus&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;obama hesitant on moral failure answer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;mccain to the point.&lt;br /&gt;
first marriage.&lt;br /&gt;
===&lt;br /&gt;
cilizza–mccain, rigid, stump lines&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;obama won’t approach debates the smae as the forum.&lt;br /&gt;
===&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;friendlier audience to mccain.&lt;br /&gt;
==&lt;br /&gt;
candy&lt;br /&gt;
jack&lt;br /&gt;
’steve hayes weekly standard&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;jack–too thoughtful? overshadowed by cont of cone of silence-serious questions raised-mccain said i was trying to listen through the wall, what wall? he was in a car….controversy and credibility of the entire event has suffered&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;wolf-anger on the left steve–whether pastor misled the entire audience that mccain wouldn’t have an advantage–&lt;br /&gt;
steve-there is no actual evidence that he did actually–that the ‘lliteral’sealed cone of silence that he was surrounded by secret service, he was surrounded by his staff you take him at his word…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;candy–warren said mccain was in a room where he couldn’t hear, can’t imagine don’t believe that warren lied again we don’t have proof that mccain heard anything–blogs, blah blah, because he knew all the questions, i talked to them told them the sorts of questions….if he did hear we will know, someone will tell us…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the three debates–different styles, foreshadowed by the forum..&lt;br /&gt;
jack–but again we don’t know if someone had an unfair advantage advantage–crisp quick and to the point on the other hand, left wanting more, moral failure first marriage, tell us what you mean!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;obama/hill both seemed to look inside themselves and how they relate to things….mccain, too pat, why a moral failure?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;steve–mccain military family etc.,not open, remarkable he opened that much…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;mccain won the night, virtually everyone agrees…….obama’s team telling people concerned mccain heard answers….does him a disservice….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/sitroom.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA.....troom.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
transcripts page, this segment not up yet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/situation.room/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/situation.room/</a><br />
page for clips and transcripts for the situation room</p>
<p>here’s the gist of it….</p>
<p>with typos.</p>
<p>6:30</p>
<p>opening reporter–clips<br />
who would they consult<br />
obama-personal-wife</p>
<p>mccain-on message, campaign.<br />
petraeus</p>
<p>obama hesitant on moral failure answer.</p>
<p>mccain to the point.<br />
first marriage.<br />
===<br />
cilizza–mccain, rigid, stump lines</p>
<p>obama won’t approach debates the smae as the forum.<br />
===</p>
<p>friendlier audience to mccain.<br />
==<br />
candy<br />
jack<br />
’steve hayes weekly standard</p>
<p>jack–too thoughtful? overshadowed by cont of cone of silence-serious questions raised-mccain said i was trying to listen through the wall, what wall? he was in a car….controversy and credibility of the entire event has suffered</p>
<p>wolf-anger on the left steve–whether pastor misled the entire audience that mccain wouldn’t have an advantage–<br />
steve-there is no actual evidence that he did actually–that the ‘lliteral’sealed cone of silence that he was surrounded by secret service, he was surrounded by his staff you take him at his word…</p>
<p>candy–warren said mccain was in a room where he couldn’t hear, can’t imagine don’t believe that warren lied again we don’t have proof that mccain heard anything–blogs, blah blah, because he knew all the questions, i talked to them told them the sorts of questions….if he did hear we will know, someone will tell us…..</p>
<p>the three debates–different styles, foreshadowed by the forum..<br />
jack–but again we don’t know if someone had an unfair advantage advantage–crisp quick and to the point on the other hand, left wanting more, moral failure first marriage, tell us what you mean!</p>
<p>obama/hill both seemed to look inside themselves and how they relate to things….mccain, too pat, why a moral failure?</p>
<p>steve–mccain military family etc.,not open, remarkable he opened that much…</p>
<p>mccain won the night, virtually everyone agrees…….obama’s team telling people concerned mccain heard answers….does him a disservice….</p>
<p><a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/sitroom.html" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA&#8230;..troom.html</a><br />
transcripts page, this segment not up yet.</p>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/18/evan-bayh-got-the-memo-on-how-to-define-mccain/#comment-1586316</link>
		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh yes, the air pumps at a gas station are used 1,000 times a day which makes it soooooooooooooooo profitable. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Faux Spew knows it can get away with pulling facts out of it’s ass because their viewers are the same way. None of them know what’s really going on day to day and if they do know, they’ll say, “Damn liberals! They’re lying!”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, the air pumps at a gas station are used 1,000 times a day which makes it soooooooooooooooo profitable. </p>
<p>Faux Spew knows it can get away with pulling facts out of it’s ass because their viewers are the same way. None of them know what’s really going on day to day and if they do know, they’ll say, “Damn liberals! They’re lying!”.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarecrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarecrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;bigbro — looks like some of the polls in that CNN average were done before most of the Georgia story.  I was interested in whether the Georgia = good week for McCain was having any lasting effect, and so far it doesn’t seem so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bigbro — looks like some of the polls in that CNN average were done before most of the Georgia story.  I was interested in whether the Georgia = good week for McCain was having any lasting effect, and so far it doesn’t seem so.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jim Webb needs to stand up and speak out about McCain’s appropriation of his GI Bill of Rights.  As happy as I am that it passed and AWOL signed it into law, I also wish it was still an issue for this fall’s campaign.  Now, the GOPs just lie about having supported it, and &lt;em&gt;no one answers their lies&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Webb needs to stand up and speak out about McCain’s appropriation of his GI Bill of Rights.  As happy as I am that it passed and AWOL signed it into law, I also wish it was still an issue for this fall’s campaign.  Now, the GOPs just lie about having supported it, and <em>no one answers their lies</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For that think McSAme is gaining in the polls…not according to the CNN combined four polls &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/&lt;/a&gt; Obama 47% McCain 41%&lt;br /&gt;
Please update what is a later fugure?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For that think McSAme is gaining in the polls…not according to the CNN combined four polls <a href="http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/</a> Obama 47% McCain 41%<br />
Please update what is a later fugure?</p>
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