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		<title>By: T-Bear</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/17/a-faith-based-question-for-john-mccain/#comment-1585663</link>
		<dc:creator>T-Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning, just got your  response.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do know that there is evil, it is where ever there is falsehood. Like Dracula, falsehood is never found in the mirror of fact.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you wrote:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I take it that you believe that there is absolute truth, and absolute falsehood? Enquiring minds want to know.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please indicate just where absolute truth or absolute falsehood are found in what I wrote. You ask about belief, I spoke of knowledge. Please demonstrate the relationship between truth and fact, if indeed there is one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cleanth, you are new here apparently, I do enjoy your engagement in the discussions here, there is a fresh point of view usually expressed. However, I would note, you also bring a mountains worth of hubris with you, just be cautious around the doGs. Just say’n&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning, just got your  response.</p>
<blockquote><p>I do know that there is evil, it is where ever there is falsehood. Like Dracula, falsehood is never found in the mirror of fact.</p>
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<p>you wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I take it that you believe that there is absolute truth, and absolute falsehood? Enquiring minds want to know.</p>
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<p>Please indicate just where absolute truth or absolute falsehood are found in what I wrote. You ask about belief, I spoke of knowledge. Please demonstrate the relationship between truth and fact, if indeed there is one.</p>
<p>cleanth, you are new here apparently, I do enjoy your engagement in the discussions here, there is a fresh point of view usually expressed. However, I would note, you also bring a mountains worth of hubris with you, just be cautious around the doGs. Just say’n</p>
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		<title>By: Robt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/17/a-faith-based-question-for-john-mccain/#comment-1585573</link>
		<dc:creator>Robt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am no Rev Peterr or Rev Rick, Not even a Reverend.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Didn’t sleep in a holiday inn express last night.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; But I ask of the Reverends, not because I am pure, religious, et al, to the contrary.  I don’t project any false pretenses of my better than thou.&lt;br /&gt;
 Self described “Thrill Seeker” is a close description………….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I ask because how some portay themselves, how they portray others and those that enable their lies for profit or fame.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; So I ask,&lt;br /&gt;
          “Senator McCain, recently at a campaign stop at Sturgis,S.D..   Where you spoke with Hells Angels and thrill seekers,  you were the opening act for Kid Rock, you offered and encouraged your wife, Cindy McCain, to enter in the Buffalo Chip Queens’s competition.   You boasted from the stage to these Hells Angels and other thrill seekers for your wife to do it..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*Sir, where was your God that day?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*How does your faith in the Lord allow you to offer your wife into a contest of public sexual content? (nudeness and Banana acts to excite the bikers for votes)?.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*Did your wife refuse ?   And if so,  what was her refusing reason ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*If you excuse yourself for “not being aware of what the contest involved”,  what else would you offer your wife up for &amp; expose her to without prior knowledge for personal gain?  (would it also include no clothes and sexual acts with banana’s ?)&lt;br /&gt;
-And if President,  what else would you offer America into without prior knowledge?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*Now knowing about the contest, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;      A)  Would you here and now like to appoligize to your wife in public after humiliating her in public ? (if you believe she was humiliated)?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;      B)  Would you believe,  (in front of these Christians today),  that the Buffalo Chip Queen contest is Risky, sinful,  sexual lewd activity? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*Senn McCain, My Friend, you already stated there is Good and Evil.&lt;br /&gt;
 Is the Buffalo Chip Queen contest Good or Evil in your opinion?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  Would you as President promise now to ban such Pagan acts in this Christan Nation?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no Rev Peterr or Rev Rick, Not even a Reverend.</p>
<p> Didn’t sleep in a holiday inn express last night.</p>
<p> But I ask of the Reverends, not because I am pure, religious, et al, to the contrary.  I don’t project any false pretenses of my better than thou.<br />
 Self described “Thrill Seeker” is a close description………….</p>
<p> I ask because how some portay themselves, how they portray others and those that enable their lies for profit or fame.</p>
<p> So I ask,<br />
          “Senator McCain, recently at a campaign stop at Sturgis,S.D..   Where you spoke with Hells Angels and thrill seekers,  you were the opening act for Kid Rock, you offered and encouraged your wife, Cindy McCain, to enter in the Buffalo Chip Queens’s competition.   You boasted from the stage to these Hells Angels and other thrill seekers for your wife to do it..</p>
<p>*Sir, where was your God that day?</p>
<p>*How does your faith in the Lord allow you to offer your wife into a contest of public sexual content? (nudeness and Banana acts to excite the bikers for votes)?.</p>
<p>*Did your wife refuse ?   And if so,  what was her refusing reason ?</p>
<p>*If you excuse yourself for “not being aware of what the contest involved”,  what else would you offer your wife up for &amp; expose her to without prior knowledge for personal gain?  (would it also include no clothes and sexual acts with banana’s ?)<br />
-And if President,  what else would you offer America into without prior knowledge?</p>
<p>*Now knowing about the contest, </p>
<p>      A)  Would you here and now like to appoligize to your wife in public after humiliating her in public ? (if you believe she was humiliated)?</p>
<p>      B)  Would you believe,  (in front of these Christians today),  that the Buffalo Chip Queen contest is Risky, sinful,  sexual lewd activity? </p>
<p>*Senn McCain, My Friend, you already stated there is Good and Evil.<br />
 Is the Buffalo Chip Queen contest Good or Evil in your opinion?</p>
<p>  Would you as President promise now to ban such Pagan acts in this Christan Nation?</p>
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		<title>By: rxbusa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/17/a-faith-based-question-for-john-mccain/#comment-1585168</link>
		<dc:creator>rxbusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now &lt;em&gt;there’s&lt;/em&gt; a great idea!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now <em>there’s</em> a great idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Garbo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/17/a-faith-based-question-for-john-mccain/#comment-1585121</link>
		<dc:creator>Garbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Peterr,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“You gotta have a sense of humor, my friend.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Love in Christ,&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peterr,</p>
<p>“You gotta have a sense of humor, my friend.”</p>
<p>Love in Christ,<br />
John McCain</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/17/a-faith-based-question-for-john-mccain/#comment-1585116</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The next special interest group “Focus” should be hosted by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next special interest group “Focus” should be hosted by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion in Savannah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/17/a-faith-based-question-for-john-mccain/#comment-1585102</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion in Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We were told that we had to point the lower left corner of the paper at our stomach.  Makes a good angle for a righty, impossible for a southpaw.  When left-handed kids tried to point the lower RIGHT corner of the paper at their stomach, to align it properly for them, they were told not to.  Insane.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were told that we had to point the lower left corner of the paper at our stomach.  Makes a good angle for a righty, impossible for a southpaw.  When left-handed kids tried to point the lower RIGHT corner of the paper at their stomach, to align it properly for them, they were told not to.  Insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I remember seeing one left-hander who found it easiest to simply hold the paper sideways, and write vertically. There’s no doubt that script writing, at least the way I was taught, favors right-handers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember seeing one left-hander who found it easiest to simply hold the paper sideways, and write vertically. There’s no doubt that script writing, at least the way I was taught, favors right-handers.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion in Savannah</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/17/a-faith-based-question-for-john-mccain/#comment-1585086</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion in Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, please don’t get me wrong.  Real Italic is fluid and beautiful.  It’s the half-bastard thing that’s taught that’s hideous.  I know about the “r” and “t” that you’re talking about, I think.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a lefty you must have suffered the agonies of the damned if you’re of a certain age.  I recall that EVERYONE in the class (lefties included) had to position their paper JUST SO…  Which was, of course, completely wrong for southpaws.  I hope that you weren’t tormented that way!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In my public grammar school there was a delightful 4th grade teacher who signed everyone’s yearbook or autograph book using an italic nib and with a particularly beautiful hand, replete with flourishes.  We would hover over her signature for what seemed like forever until the ink dried because we didn’t want it to smudge.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, please don’t get me wrong.  Real Italic is fluid and beautiful.  It’s the half-bastard thing that’s taught that’s hideous.  I know about the “r” and “t” that you’re talking about, I think.  </p>
<p>As a lefty you must have suffered the agonies of the damned if you’re of a certain age.  I recall that EVERYONE in the class (lefties included) had to position their paper JUST SO…  Which was, of course, completely wrong for southpaws.  I hope that you weren’t tormented that way!  </p>
<p>In my public grammar school there was a delightful 4th grade teacher who signed everyone’s yearbook or autograph book using an italic nib and with a particularly beautiful hand, replete with flourishes.  We would hover over her signature for what seemed like forever until the ink dried because we didn’t want it to smudge.</p>
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		<title>By: cleanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Because most ‘murricans are idjits, Cujo.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because most ‘murricans are idjits, Cujo.</p>
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		<title>By: cleanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Marion!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those Chancery Script knockoffs are indeed abominable.  But if you look at, say, the copy-books of Arrighi, you will, perhaps, agree that this is the acme of handwriting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Iam sure that you had/have lovely handwriting.  My late mother also had lovely Palmeresque handwriting, as taught her in elementary school. But this script does indeed degenerate at speed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I went abroad for a large part of my academic career, I noted that many Europeans write their “r” and “t” letters much differentaly to those schooled in the US.  Their letter formation conduces to fluid, rapid writing of those letters. Myself, I find the cursive styles taught me in the US as a mere child to have been difficult to write, and my handwriting in those days often incurred the censorious disdain of my teachers.  Now I write  fine Italic hand.  I also custom grind my nibs, being left-handed.  Fine quality italic-edged-sharp nibs are coming back into style.  Formerly they were fairly standard in fine pens. Nibmeisters such as Richard Binder or John Mottishaw have a brisk trade making custom italic nibs and nib conversions here in the US. Waiting times approach a year-and-one half now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Marion!</p>
<p>Those Chancery Script knockoffs are indeed abominable.  But if you look at, say, the copy-books of Arrighi, you will, perhaps, agree that this is the acme of handwriting.</p>
<p>Iam sure that you had/have lovely handwriting.  My late mother also had lovely Palmeresque handwriting, as taught her in elementary school. But this script does indeed degenerate at speed.</p>
<p>When I went abroad for a large part of my academic career, I noted that many Europeans write their “r” and “t” letters much differentaly to those schooled in the US.  Their letter formation conduces to fluid, rapid writing of those letters. Myself, I find the cursive styles taught me in the US as a mere child to have been difficult to write, and my handwriting in those days often incurred the censorious disdain of my teachers.  Now I write  fine Italic hand.  I also custom grind my nibs, being left-handed.  Fine quality italic-edged-sharp nibs are coming back into style.  Formerly they were fairly standard in fine pens. Nibmeisters such as Richard Binder or John Mottishaw have a brisk trade making custom italic nibs and nib conversions here in the US. Waiting times approach a year-and-one half now.</p>
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