Christianity is a two thousand year old FARCE. Islam is a one thousand four hundred year old FARCE. Hindi, Buddhism, Scientology are demonstrably insane.

Religion will not cure your diseases. Religion will not bring you wealth, unless you are the preacher. Religion will not grow your crops or cure you marital problems. But embracing religion at the expense of reason WILL make all these things WORSE.

I get exactly what you are saying.

Here are some links to sites that have done extensive research on the IRD, and go to the IRD site, itself, and read their press work and statements. And, just so you know, we have an OC homeboy and his wife right in the thick of it, Howard and Roberta Ahmanson, former followers of the very weird Rushdoony head of the Chalcedon group which, in fact, advocated for stoning of certain folks IN the US in modern times, something that Ahmanson (who was at his bedside when he died) later said he no longer thought necessary.

Here are some links, search for IRD (Institute of Religion and Democracy):

http://www.publiceye.org/

http://www.theocracywatch.org/

Believe me, the web is deep and large and the players in IRD also include the wife of Supreme Court nominee Bork whose wife sits on the Board of IRD along with Roberta Ahmanson (also search Fieldstone Foundation), Fred Barnes, Editor Weekly Standard and (suprised?) also Fox News propagandist… well you get the picture. You can go here to see their site and board members, etc.: http://www.theird.org/NETCOMMU…..;srcid=183

That’s how.

could you share more about the IRD?

thanks!

As an Episcopalian and full inclusion advocate for lgbt folks, you have NO idea how many of us have been writing on this Warren/Obama connection, let along the Akinola (Archbishop from Nigeria), Orombi (Archbishop from Uganda), and Bul (Archbishop from Sudan) hate speech and its implications and many have been writing on it for quite a while. It is disgusting and in reality causes violence against and separation of those who struggle on this issue in those three countries–and there are many more in countries around the globe. And like they don’t have their OWN problems? Sudan has 12 year-old girls, Twilight Girls, prostituting themselves because her family has to eat. And Bul is worried about a gay man on another continent, claiming, absurdly, that this openly gay, partnered Bishop gets in the way of him helping his people with clean water and food? Yeah, I know what you’re thinking. Believe me, I know.

There are, clearly, cultural anomalies extant in these countries. That does NOT, however, give place to advocation of violence by ANYONE, let alone any Anglican Archbishop.

This also goes deeper than you might imagine. It has legs with the IRD (begun in 1982 and which is a right group that has mixed its fingers in Latin American pies (one of their current directors worked with the infamous Ollie North) and they have, currently, on staff an ex-CIA employee) who are actively and covertly attacking the US mainline (generally liberal) Protestant churches in an attempt to push them to the hard right. Akinola is also involved with these same folks, and their supporters.

The association of Obama with this outrageous, if smooth, Baptist evangelical is mind numbing. It just reinforces my notion that everyone believes the evangelical vote is ”in play”, politically, and that whatever it takes to get it is fine.

Obama lost my vote sometime back, unfortunately. I am going to have to go with a third party after 35+ years as a liberal dem. The whole thing makes me nauseous.