Last night CNN aired a segment wondering aloud whether or not Obama is the Antichrist. It’s just the latest step in making what ought to be an outrageous and nonsensical bit of religious nuttery into an actual campaign issue. Raw Story has the details:
CNN notes that regardless of its intent, though, the ad seems to have spurred increased interest in the baseless speculation. At least one entire blog is devoted to the question and a Google search for "Obama Antichrist" returns nearly 1 million returns.
And regardless of CNN’s intent, it too managed to handle the story in such a "fair and balanced" fashion that the interest of which it speaks will, in turn, ratchet up yet another notch.
The story that inspired the segment — in which "Left Behind" authors Tim LaHaye and Dan Jenkins officially pronounced Obama NOT the Antichrist — was actually a clever bit of politicking: Even though the verdict was negative, it gave the very question a veneer of legitimacy it does not deserve. It made the question seem like a serious theological problem — one that could then be debated further — rather than the scurrilous nonsense it really is.
That story in turn was sparked by the discussion that followed the release of the McCain campaign’s anti-Obama ad, "The One", which was just chock full o’ nutty images that clearly were intended to lead viewers to wonder whether there was a sinister, even diabolical, side to Obama’s celebrity.
Back when the ad first aired, Amy Sullivan in Time pointed out:
A new TIME poll finds that the most conservative Evangelicals are the least enthusiastic about McCain’s candidacy. Convincing them that Obama does have two horns and a tail might be the best way of getting them to vote. That’s what worries Campolo, who also sits on the Democratic Party’s platform committee. "Those books have created a subliminal language, and I think judgments will be made unconsciously about Barack Obama," he says. "It scares the daylights out of me."
It probably should, because this is yet another component of the larger strategy being planned this fall by Republicans. Like their dog-whistle racial campaign ads, these are in fact very subtle appeals — the kind that let the McCain campaign send messages to their lizard-brain base while giving them a measure of plausible deniability about doing so. As Jane said awhile back, their strategy is to make "implicit" appeals without creating the backlash that would result from more explicit appeals.
The same theme courses throughout Jerome Corsi’s smear job. Indeed, it’s going to be an endless stream of this crap until November. The Obama campaign’s frontal assault on these smears has been somewhat effective, but the subtler appeals have proven a thornier problem — one that ain’t going away.
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wtf??
and zed.
Obama is the AntiRepug. That would be my choice. How can humans be so dumb. This was on the teevee? Jeebus.
Guess I shouldn’t say Jeebus. It might mean I am the antijeebus.
How can Obama be the Antichrist when he is not a member of the Bush family?
Isn’t Cheney the antichrist?
I’ve opened the DIGG for your convenience. Go for it!
Jeepers, creepers;
Where’d we get such freepers?
Nuttery upon nuttery. If people believe Obama to be the antichrist, they are dutibound to *vote for him*, since the antichrist has to be in power for the prophecies to come true. If they vote against him, the antichrist won’t be in power so the rapture can’t occur, Jesus won’t return, and we’re truly f’cked.
It’s not that most American’s believe this nuttery, it’s that the MSM are giving any play to it other than to call it nuttery and condemning the sources. Our MSM is getting worse as the campaign goes on.
Yeah, you’d think Hagee would be all for Obama, since he’s all about getting that Armageddon thing going.
I was in the waiting area of tire store waiting to have my tires rotated. A television was on with the sound down rather low, but loud enough to hear even if one wasn’t really listening — which I wasn’t. But I heard that ‘antichrist/Obama crap being bandied about and my immediate reaction, the first words out of my mouth, was WTF? Are you sh**tin’ me?
CNN is one disgusting organization. They have so much work to do to build any semblance of a decent reputation.
Except Hagee is a con artist, ripping off gullible people. I doubt he believes any of it.
Better?
Tomato hornworms are the anti-christ, my wife could tell you that!
I don’t know why Obama’s campaign or some surrogate group (whether he likes it or not; after all, this race may be his to lose, but it’s still our country and I don’t want the crazy dumb old guy) doesn’t just do an add with McLame riding a nuke to Iran similar to the bomb riding sequence with Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove, and get it over with! Somebody needs to make the point that this guy is itching to show what he knows (or doesn’t know) about winning wars. Seems to me he wants to show us he can win two of Bush’s and one of his own simultaneously.
Dave writes:
And should Obama win in November, the endless stream of crap about Obama will continue for at least four years, if not eight years.
Just like it did for Clinton.
“The story that inspired the segment — in which “Left Behind” authors Tim LaHaye and Dan Jenkins officially pronounced Obama NOT the Antichrist — was actually a clever bit of politicking: Even though the verdict was negative, it gave the very question a veneer of legitimacy it does not deserve. It made the question seem like a serious theological problem — one that could then be debated further — rather than the scurrilous nonsense it really is.”
right after the ‘left behind’ series was out, another book made the rounds–the bible code….this book was being read by the same people…..this one said how bush was preordained in history, and a lot of the things going on…..was by a mathmetician in israel….very interesting book, the second one had more about bush. always wondered what else was in there.
i think that is why many resigned themselves that bush is the ‘leader’…like i said, was a very interesting book, i love math, and this guy was onto something if it is possible. kinda like i continue to wonder who nostradamous’ son /prince/ is . can’t help but wonder.
but then, anything can be packaged to hold a grain of truth if it’s in a water tight container.==hold water.
just thought you’d like to know that aspect.
and my broinlaw watches hagee. haven’t talked about it yet…i stick to things where i know he has a soft spot, where i have influence from my own life. he’s going to be a minister in 7 years.he respects me because he knows i have ‘walked the walk’ in every way…even though i don’t ascribe to his beliefs, he knows i respect him, he is a good man..sister says he only thinks he’s a republican
There was a time when I thought the average person was as at least as smart as I was. Now I consider them to possess a feral cunning, but most of them are not only uninformed, I have regretfully come to the conclusion that the majority of them are actually stupid to boot. These people are frightening! In the words of Elbert Hubbard, “The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and these are ignorance, superstition and incompetence.”
I have this image of Osama laughing his ass off in a cave someplace. He has certainly exceeded his wildest expectations. It was a fear that grasped me that day, that everyone would overreact and the American way of life would be lost to us forever and indeed it has.
and you really should read the bible code books to understand how deeply -seated these beliefs are. the ‘midst of armageddon’ stuff.
ingrained. there are many living in the last days, they base their decisions on that. no kidding. and many of them are running the world right now. no kidding.
CNN, where low-information voters go to be uninformed, since 1980.
ROFL
i just love you~!!!
cleathe-did you get my shakespeare message?
We are a pathetic nation. Talk about your “confederacy of dunces.”
there’s more than one, the devil is everywhere.
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the devil made me do it. (flip wilson)
‘gotta’ go.
bbl
Just watching Rachel talking to Howard Fineman on Olbermann, and made me wonder, when did Howard become so…partisan (for lack of a better word). Just seems odd he seems so much like he’s on our side for a change!
the devil is in de-tails.
Uh, gee, I dunno… Shouldn’t we like, go onna coupla dates first?
;~P
So if Obama is the Antichrist, does that make McCain Hemorrhoides, the patron demon of angry, old men? Or is that Senilis? Anyway I know for a fact that Lieberman is an incarnation of Nasticus, the weasel god.
As Mr Dylan sang, “Ya don’t need a weatherman to see which way the wind blows.”
seeknowoh, good grief. I wish i could believe that americans are smarter than this but I know better.
punster at 25
funny! looks dangerous, just like the devil……….
Honest to God I have heard smart people (evangelicals) state exactly this. There is a passage in revelations that says something similar to the idea that a leader would arise that appears to be the anti christ. (Bush) However the passage says (according to my evangelical friends) that this leader is not the “true” antichrist. That an even worse leader will appear and this leader will in fact be THE ONE that leads our world into “the end times”.
My master’s level colleague believes this to be true, and Obama to be the anti christ.
And you know what? You can’t prove it, and you can’t disprove it.
With this context, it makes it very difficult to argue against.
funny..asswipe.
: P
disclaimer, ‘bong and me’ are siblings, of a sort. just ignore us.
bbl am in the middle of something.
The antijebus scares the bejebus out of me.
If you can Stomach the fundie crap here is a link that will make your day:
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/ Bullshit from the start!
707
Boy, I can’t wait for the first debate the ways things are going.
So Senator Obama, as President will you provide funds within your first 100 days to establish that the transubstantiation of the Eucharist is a physical process, not a spiritual metaphor?
Senator McCain, name any one of the Trinity.
Senator Obama, please tell us how many angels can dance on the head of an indeterminately sized pin.
Senator McCain, please tell us why Hell is a place where Democrats go.
oh keeeeeeeeeeeeeeerist….or auntie
hehehehehe
cheesus… foundoing fathers are spinning in their graves
founding
that first paragraph, that’s what ‘the bible code books’ DEFINE.
everyone should read them, was quite fascinating, and takes a certain level of information and story to intrigue me.
without reading them and the other books, you can never understand how they are following things as instinct, based on this stuff.
i wish sometimes that we did all know each other in person, so we would know when to pay attention to what someone says and when not to.sometimes i know what i’m talking about.
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and NOW on pbs is doing a show on how people in texas are pissed.-the border fence is being built two miles north of the rio grande, privately owned land is now not in the us…..they have to move…..and i read a while back that flood areas they will have nowhere to evacuate.
bbl
lol, and wtf r u talk’n about?
Ain’t that the truth.
Here’s what intrigues me, however. Rick Warren will be holding his two-hour interview/debate with Obama, and McCain, tomorrow. (And I hope MSNBC.com archives it online, b/c I’m going to miss it live.)
NPR’s “To the Point” (hosted by Warren Olney) focused on Rick Warren’s upcoming set of interviews tomorrow with McSame and Obama. To the Point is archived online, for those interested.
One clear theme: many evangelicals are fed up with the bogus religiousity of the Falwell/Rove end of the spectrum and find GWBush an embarrassment. They’ll be watching that interview, and I’ve a hunch that many will discover Obama isn’t a Muslim, nor all that scary.
My personal hunch: this nastiness is going to blow up in McSame’s face, b/c I think enough people are fed up with it. He’s using 1988 ads in 2008, and he’s making himself look like an angry old man.
Stop the world and let me off.
Hey they are not in their graves they have arisen and are looking down on us and shaking their heads in disbelief that we could so fuck up what they put together to keep the church out of the state..
click on the purple ‘our most popular reincarnations’ below the touchdown jesus pic. best frienend and i were on the phone the other night dying laughing looking at the pics.
it’s the staue ‘remade’ one ihe is keith moon on drums, doint ‘my regeneration’.
http://www.jeeeb.us/
funniest site ever. spew alert.
the statue/sculpture is on the other side of the state where i am from. right down the highway is a hustler store. even my dad jokes about it.
i dunno. you know jefferson was one of those humanist folks and not so churchy. He even had a koran and *gasp* was part of the enlightenment movement.
that was for nahant @47
just grab on babe, it’s the spin cycle part of the ride where it gets fun.
Quick heads up: I’m going to be on Air America on Richard Green’s Clout show this evening starting at 10 pm ET, talking about McCain’s cronies — including Ralph Reed, Charlie Black and others. Last time I was on and forgot to tell folks, I got e-mails. So I’m trying to give advance notice this time. *G*
How did your image get into my brain…?
GWBush has been Osama bin Laden’s best advocate, but it took a brain dead Congress to fund the idiocy.
Yep IIRC he was also very much in favor of the separation of church and state!
It’s getting harder to defend the U.S as not full of dumb ass people
OT
So I’m watching Rachel on Countdown and in the Bushed section she mentions the Arar case and how it’s being reheard by the 2nd circuit. Christy wrote about it yesterday and what a rare occurrence it is for a circuit to reopen a case on it’s own and hear it en banc. It occurred to me that I hadn’t seen anything about it other than Christy’s post. So I went to my RSS search and the story only showed up on Canadian news services, Reuters (not the US feed) Bloomberg and some blogs—FDL, Alternet and TPM.
Is it just me or is it really really odd and somewhat suspicious that the US press is ignoring this very rare court re-hearing?
The bin Laden Family are long time Bush family cronies. Osama has no worries while Bush remains in office. Even the Decider knows not to bite feeding hands.
Really now-Let us think logically here. Imagine you were a Soviet spy in years gone by, would you admit to it? Or would you try to take the lens off of you and put it on the other guy. All this talk about the anti-christ is a subterfuge, a sleight of hand, a diversion to make you think Obama is the one, not McCain who had to have sold his soul to satan to get where he has gotten. It is time to point the finger right where it belongs, at McCain. We explain to the evangelicals that satan wants them on his side that’s why he lies about this. Let’s get to it.
forgot to say, they’[ve been doing this site for a while now, never let up. we look at it every once in a while to see what else they’ve added…..
best friend says we’re going to hell for laughing so ahard,i don’t believe in hell, she does.
seriously, you won’t regret going there, is one of the funniest htings i’ve ever seen.
bbl really. crap this place is hard to leave sometimes.
This is beginning to sound like the return of the Spanish Inquisition, something I never expected but then . . .
Fuels debate? Fuels hate, more like.
How true! But there are lot of very intelligent Americans also just look around the Lake..
oo neat, thanks for that heads up
same old same old censoring of the real news… ya think MSM wants the rest of to know that Bushco fucked up ??? Gee it would ruin everything for them and their rich Reich owners!
It’s not just you.
That’s something impossible to defend so long as Bush remains in office.
odd that our press is ignoring news?!?!? hardly surprising. i’m more surprised that it was even mentioned ANYWHERE in the legacy media. Long live blogs
They do need to cover the latest Bigfoot hoax.
So why didn’t the NYT cover it? Second Circuit is in NYC.
WTF?
Thank goodness for that but there are few bastions of intelligent folks. I seem to run into dumb asses that just believe anything they hear.
LOL
You aren’t kidding. When he was re-elected (I was living in germany at the time) the germans just shook their head and proclaimed us all stupid. I could hardly argue
I updated item 14 of my list with it. The Center for Constitutional Rights site also had it.
To be fair, they only believe anything and everything about Democrats.
Same hear I try and enlighten them but… I am not God speaking to them..
I believe that this” Obama is the anti-Christ” is anti-religion and anti-Christian. I e-mailed CNN and said that it is a sleazy network and that they are mostly doing trash. I find this Obama thing really offensive.
Gee what a surprise that CNN would be carrying the anti-christ theme. Seems to me they are also the ones’ that carried Kerry was actually not a purple heart veteran and a true hero but a traitor. Could he have been standing next to Jane Fonda? Oh My…
not just democrats but anyone who does not share their same demented beliefs
They did it to Kerry also so you expect an e-mail to stop them. What about organizing groups to picket them outside Atlanta, D.C. and New York? Maybe we could carry signs saying the new National Enquirer or something and it would have to be on the same day.
Don’t expect an e-mail to stop them but it’s the only way I can protest. They have become racist, bigoted and just plain stupid. I am but one….
It IS offensive. It’s all innuendo but it is speaking in code to evangelicals who follow this belief. I think they are teaching this in some of the churches.
gotta helluva soapbox here, though.
It’s hardly innuendo or a dog whistle when CNN asks if Obama is the antichrist. Pretty upfront slander. As I said, stop the world and let me off. This is too despicable for words.
The National Enquirer is too legit. Maybe The Weekly World News./s
I hope you are still here, CNN SCREWED KERRY, and after Turner owned the network, I’m sure they were caught blind sighted. Maybe we can make a change by organizing protests. The anti-christ thing is sick and needs to be stopped. Does anyone else have ideas? I live in Atlanta and prefer not to be by myself with a sign but I do think we can make a difference.
With a picture of Obama’s face morphed into Batboy.
Back in May of 2003 there was an article in the Catholics Times that the Pope thought Bush was the Antichrist. Where was CNN on that one?
http://findarticles.com/p/arti….._108881880
raw story should stop using the department of redundancy department for proof-readers.
>>a Google search for “Obama Antichrist” returns nearly 1 million returns.
Well, a Google search for “McCain Antichrist” returns 817,000, so I guess the “returns” are neck and neck.
I especially like the parfum Eau D’eity with Ann Coulter as the model – a scent of righteousness.
Mostly true about Arar rehearing, but I did find a story @ NYT.
NYT has an interesting euphemism for torture:
He’s also anti-white.
The frustration voiced in the >80 attached comments which I read got me to thinking about possible solutions to our collective problem with the mainstream media. I believe that I have found the answer.
It is my belief that the majority of Americans are at least vaguely aware of the tradition of reporting non-news on the news, i.e. “there is a story out of … that so-and-so did this or that”. They aren’t reporting news per se, they are reporting re reporting. These news items are almost always accompanied by, “More on this as it comes in” and an unnamed source.
We are also aware of the cannibalistic feeding frenzy that goes on when a news outlet gets caught in a glaring mistake. NBC and ABC had a field day nobly refraining from critical comment while piling on CBS during the Dan Rather brouhaha.
The solution is the formation of an organization, the sole purpose of which is to report non-news that is close enough to the truth as to be sufficiently plausible to hook the fish. Whether the fish is Fox, CNN, ABC, or any of the others, the rest will pile on. Hook one with this non-news, another with another, and soon the media will be destroying each other’s credibility. The result will be embarrassment, chagrin, and a reluctance to report on stuff that has not been verified.
If someone can throw together a book documenting the fact that Obama is not the anti-Christ, someone else can assemble a tome documenting that McCain is not a Nazi, or a Communist, or in the throes of Alzheimer’s. This is not rocket science.
The problem is that the right actually does this despicable stuff, while the left merely whines about how despicable it is. Unfortunately, to the simple minded, that translates as “Statesmen negotiate, leaders act.” A vast segment of the populace, aka the simple-minded, is fed up with talk and yearning for action, and there lies the crux of the Anti-Christ’s problem. He is acknowledged to be a gifted speaker and negotiator.
Inasmuch as Satan is supposed to be very persuasive, and to rarely show his true identity, it is much more likely that Mr. McCain is the smooth-talking Anti-Christ, cleverly disguised as a doddering septuagenarian who has difficulty putting two sentences together without stumbling over his dentures. Now, that is a non-news item that could be a #1 bestseller.
Johnny (6) Sydney (6) McCain (6)
Need more proof? (reprinted from craigslist)
In the old Scottish/Gaelic terminology, Mc means “son of”. Henceforth, McCain = Son of Cain. Both the Old Testament and the New Testament are replete with references that make clear that the “son of Cain” is the son of the devil. Indeed the “Mark of Cain” is commonly interchanged with the phrase the “Mark of the Beast”.
Genesis 4:15 “…And the LORD set a mark upon Cain…”
The Antichrist will survive a mortal wound (cancer). The left side of the face symbolizes the evil or demonic nature of humans. What little is written about the Antichrist and his attributes is found in the Book of Revelation:
Revelation 3: 3 “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.”
Book of Revelation in Chapter 12 says “Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”
John McCain is famous for his temper. He is even referred to in political circles as “Insane McCain” prone to fits of screaming, cursing, and personal insults. He still suffers from PTSD. If elected to office he would be 72 years old. Life expectancy in America is 78.1.
He armed the Kosovo Liberation Army (Muslim terrorists) against the Christian Serbs. The Kosovo Liberation Army – is an Islamic terrorist group responsible for beheadings, torture, rape, burning down churches filled with Christians, and other atrocities. To this day, the KLA insurgency continues the systematic persecution and genocidal cleansing of Serbian civilians residing in Albania. “He did everything that we asked of him, including arming the KLA”, said Albanian lobbyist Joe DioGuardi. The Albanians collected one million dollars for the presidential campaign of this senator.
He hails from Phoenix (to rise again). McCain is the Pale Rider. The Beast.
From Wikipedia:
* In White Wolf’s role-playing game series Vampire: the Masquerade, the curse of Cain (spelled Caine) is that of vampirism. Caine becomes the father of all vampires after being cursed by God.
* The 1997 single “Barrel of a Gun” by English electronic band Depeche Mode references “the mark of Cain” in its second verse in relation to “a beating in my brain”, analogous to beating of Abel in the biblical story.
* In episode 17 of HBO’s series Big Love, fundamentalist Mormon Rhonda views a poster of Jimi Hendrix in Jordan’s apartment and remarks that he bears “the mark of Cain”.
* In the fifth installment of Stephen King’s Dark Tower series, Wolves of the Calla, a priest named Callahan has the Mark of Cain cut into his forehead.
* In the Season Two episode of House M.D. entitled “House vs. God”, House mentions to Wilson when convinced that a person has herpes that “You can’t argue with the Mark of Cain”.
THAT is what I’m talking about! You are all over this doctordawg. I can not wait to see you interviewed on CNN! Book signings are in your future.
I see a three part tome. Part I (90% of the text) is all of the indications that the Son of Cain is the anti-christ. Part II (5% of the text) why he is not. Part III is all about how the anti-christ is only manipulating things so that it APPEARS that all of the signs are in place for the rapture to occur, a cruel hoax to trick the Christian right into aiding and abetting his devilish schemes, only to crush their hopes yet again. The only way to express true Christian virtue is to shun Satan and vote for the other guy.