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	<title>Comments on: John McCain Revisits Highway 61</title>
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		<title>By: jsswenson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/15/john-mccain-revisits-highway-61/#comment-1581707</link>
		<dc:creator>jsswenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is it time to rerun the “Daisy” ad?&lt;br /&gt;
-jss-&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it time to rerun the “Daisy” ad?<br />
-jss-</p>
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		<title>By: Redshift</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/15/john-mccain-revisits-highway-61/#comment-1581574</link>
		<dc:creator>Redshift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They’re not talking about it because to be presumptuous, you not only have to act presidential, you have to be someone who shouldn’t. Though they’ll never admit it, the core of the “presumptuous” meme was that Obama was getting above his station. Since the political press will never believe that there’s any station above highly-principled war hero John McCain, so they’ll never think he’s being “presumptuous,” even as he conducts foreign policy with a country that’s paying his senior campaign advisor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They’re not talking about it because to be presumptuous, you not only have to act presidential, you have to be someone who shouldn’t. Though they’ll never admit it, the core of the “presumptuous” meme was that Obama was getting above his station. Since the political press will never believe that there’s any station above highly-principled war hero John McCain, so they’ll never think he’s being “presumptuous,” even as he conducts foreign policy with a country that’s paying his senior campaign advisor.</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/15/john-mccain-revisits-highway-61/#comment-1581568</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/15/accountability-now-no-more-wars-with-iran-and-other-strategies/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Jane post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/15/accountability-now-no-more-wars-with-iran-and-other-strategies/" rel="nofollow">New Jane post</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m a big proponent of the Powell Doctrine.  Thanks for posting its tenets.  Under these, we should go nowhere near the place.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nevertheless, there is a high degree of hypocrisy in Russia’s actions. After championing the ethnic rights of Abkhaz (1992-1994) and Ossetians (1992) in Georgia, Russia then went on to fight two wars against an ethnic minority within its own boundaries the Chechens from 1994-1996 and again in 1999-2000.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m a big proponent of the Powell Doctrine.  Thanks for posting its tenets.  Under these, we should go nowhere near the place.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, there is a high degree of hypocrisy in Russia’s actions. After championing the ethnic rights of Abkhaz (1992-1994) and Ossetians (1992) in Georgia, Russia then went on to fight two wars against an ethnic minority within its own boundaries the Chechens from 1994-1996 and again in 1999-2000.</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/15/john-mccain-revisits-highway-61/#comment-1581559</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;he gets his fun&lt;br /&gt;
on Route 61&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he gets his fun<br />
on Route 61</p>
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		<title>By: Sandman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/15/john-mccain-revisits-highway-61/#comment-1581558</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Funny, Larry Lindsay said now the growups are in charge of the government!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, after he mentioned the Iraq war might cost $200 billion, he was shown the door.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, Larry Lindsay said now the growups are in charge of the government!</p>
<p>Of course, after he mentioned the Iraq war might cost $200 billion, he was shown the door.</p>
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		<title>By: Swopa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/15/john-mccain-revisits-highway-61/#comment-1581557</link>
		<dc:creator>Swopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;here’s a summary of the Powell Doctrine (which I know you’re ver familiar with Swopa)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Someone remembers! *sniff*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>here’s a summary of the Powell Doctrine (which I know you’re ver familiar with Swopa)</p>
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<p>Someone remembers! *sniff*</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Swopa. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hopefully the legacy media will ask McSane how effing serious he is. Will he re-institute the draft? Will he raise taxes to support armed conflict with Russia or does he expect the Chinese to buy more T-bills. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also think McSane has left himself very vulnerable to Ronnie Raygun’s “no-nation building.” I hope Obama uses some form of that against him. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, it’s time for Democrats to start using military language so they don’t look quite so weak on “Defense.” What kind of  deployments does McSane want to make to Georgia? What are the troop to task ratios and the force protection requirements? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OT FWIW, here’s a summary of the Powell Doctrine (which I know you’re ver familiar with Swopa)of overwhelming force. If the Democrats had used this, we wouldn’t still be bogged down in Iraq. They ought to use it now regarding Russia:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?&lt;br /&gt;
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?&lt;br /&gt;
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?&lt;br /&gt;
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?&lt;br /&gt;
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?&lt;br /&gt;
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?&lt;br /&gt;
7. Is the action supported by the American people?&lt;br /&gt;
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Swopa. </p>
<p>Hopefully the legacy media will ask McSane how effing serious he is. Will he re-institute the draft? Will he raise taxes to support armed conflict with Russia or does he expect the Chinese to buy more T-bills. </p>
<p>I also think McSane has left himself very vulnerable to Ronnie Raygun’s “no-nation building.” I hope Obama uses some form of that against him. </p>
<p>Also, it’s time for Democrats to start using military language so they don’t look quite so weak on “Defense.” What kind of  deployments does McSane want to make to Georgia? What are the troop to task ratios and the force protection requirements? </p>
<p>OT FWIW, here’s a summary of the Powell Doctrine (which I know you’re ver familiar with Swopa)of overwhelming force. If the Democrats had used this, we wouldn’t still be bogged down in Iraq. They ought to use it now regarding Russia:</p>
<p><em>“1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?<br />
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?<br />
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?<br />
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?<br />
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?<br />
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?<br />
7. Is the action supported by the American people?<br />
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?”</em></p>
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		<title>By: wesgpc</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/15/john-mccain-revisits-highway-61/#comment-1581552</link>
		<dc:creator>wesgpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Abkhasia and Ossetia are real ethnic enclaves, with long standing nationalisti ‘issues’ that have troubled any country who has  had their whole teritories inside it’s border. Don’t let propaganda fool you about them being Russian fictions (or propaganda that says poor Russia is just trying to help as best it can).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those are serious, but long standing issues, and there will be plenty of time to solve them (there has to be, since there will be no short term solution to ethnic trouble there, whether Georgia or Russia gets its respective wish list)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But as for the politics being played: well that is just Duck Soup.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Soup&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Soup&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW: Ossetia has a little Ossetia within it. Ingushitia, or something like that. I forget whether that is in N or S Ossetia, or straddles border. Anyone who says ethnic enclaves are not an intractable problem in the Caucasus is just spouting nonsense.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abkhasia and Ossetia are real ethnic enclaves, with long standing nationalisti ‘issues’ that have troubled any country who has  had their whole teritories inside it’s border. Don’t let propaganda fool you about them being Russian fictions (or propaganda that says poor Russia is just trying to help as best it can).</p>
<p>Those are serious, but long standing issues, and there will be plenty of time to solve them (there has to be, since there will be no short term solution to ethnic trouble there, whether Georgia or Russia gets its respective wish list)</p>
<p>But as for the politics being played: well that is just Duck Soup.<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Soup" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Soup</a></p>
<p>BTW: Ossetia has a little Ossetia within it. Ingushitia, or something like that. I forget whether that is in N or S Ossetia, or straddles border. Anyone who says ethnic enclaves are not an intractable problem in the Caucasus is just spouting nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unabashed glee nails it, swopa.  The craven covetousness and greed and avarice of the McCainBushCheney gang is absolutely appalling.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There should be a drumbeat about the whole WHIG which is still in full operating mode via the McCainBushCheney gang and their minions like Mary “a good piece of scholarship” Matalin who pimped the Corsi book.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Morally bankrupt, the lot of them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unabashed glee nails it, swopa.  The craven covetousness and greed and avarice of the McCainBushCheney gang is absolutely appalling.</p>
<p>There should be a drumbeat about the whole WHIG which is still in full operating mode via the McCainBushCheney gang and their minions like Mary “a good piece of scholarship” Matalin who pimped the Corsi book.</p>
<p>Morally bankrupt, the lot of them.</p>
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